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Punta Arenas anticipates drastic 33% fall in cruise visitors this season
Less than a month for the beginning of the official cruise season 2010/11, prospects for Punta Arenas in the extreme south of Chile are not at all encouraging with an anticipated activity contraction of 33% over last year, according to the Empresa Portuaria Austral, EPA, which manages local port activities. Read full article
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Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Well the article above is not good news for Falklands either.
Very understandable (from a tourist operator point of view), the Cruise Companies are choosing Ushuaia as a port of call......
From next year they will have to choose even more..... Ushuaia or Puerto Estanley.....
2) An old Lady preparing to meet her creator.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1301025/How-Meryl-Streeps-Maggie-plumbs-new-depths-portraying-destroyed-dementia-guilt-record.html
3) “The Times” begins to ask questions about South- Atlantic Oil........
As I don’t like to pay for my propaganda, you get only a translation on an Argentinean paper....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1301025/How-Meryl-Streeps-Maggie-plumbs-new-depths-portraying-destroyed-dementia-guilt-record.html
If you want the original article, is on today’s (08/08/10) edition of the Times / Money section / Page 49
The last lines read something like that:....
“The companies that share the costs of the Ocean Guardian platform with Rockhopper have only found traces of oil...... Mr. Moody’s asseverations that a new frontier of oil exploration has been open, are still to be seen.....”
Ushuaia or Puerto stanley.....
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tough call southernmost shithole, or stanley
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Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Schopenhauer
but you have to agree Ushuaia is a shithole,they even sent their prisoners to the godforsaken place
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did somebody mention world’s southernmost shithole?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0My mate and Great Brit, Graham visited it and actually filmed it !
Enjoy......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTPc8UGkGUc
During the first half of the 20th century, the city centered around a prison built by the Argentine government to increase the Argentine population here and to ensure Argentine sovereignty over Tierra del Fuego.[6][7] The prison was intended for repeat offenders and serious criminals. The prison population thus became forced colonists and spent much of their time building the town with timber from the forest around the prison.
Aug 08th, 2010 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bloody oath!
Aug 08th, 2010 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just like my favorite Big Smoke in Oz : Sydney :-)
Sydney has charm, Ushuaia is a shithole,maybe something to do with the Brit influence and Spanish poodas touch
Aug 08th, 2010 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever ....... 37 Cruises..... Sweet money........ Juts on the right spot.....
Aug 08th, 2010 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First the transport ship...................... Bye bye Stanley
Now the Cruises.................................. Bye Bye Stanley
Next Lan Chile's Weekly Plane........ Bye Bye Stanley
Later the fishing fleets.......................Bye bye Stanley
And then.......
Twinky & buddies:
Aug 08th, 2010 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said before, Argentina’s strategy is to block the Falklands but its affecting ALL the area, Chile too. The islanders don’t need a lot to support their economy, they’re about 3000 inhabitants. They’re cattle ranchers, fishing industry, some tourism, they get by just fine. The idiocy, madness, and pure evilness comes from the Argentinians. In their eagerness to force England to give up the Falklands; Chile and Argentina are losing billions. Oh well, it happened with the oil exploration too, the Falklanders offered a joint venture a couple years ago and your arrogant Nestor rejected the offer. Very smart, indeed !!
And then.......
Aug 08th, 2010 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands will stil be British, there are only 3,000 Falklanders the good old Brit tax payer can keep them comfortable, sitting out the argie hissy fit
Thats assuming you get your wish list twink
Assuming the new MTV generation wishes to stay.......
Aug 08th, 2010 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are not “Servants with a passport not good for residence in Britain” anymore....
Well they will be more than welcome in Britain,and the Falklands will join South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands as our uninhabited
Aug 08th, 2010 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0south atlantic possession,but it wont come to that,because if you can get 65,000 argies to live in that shit hole Ushuaia,some Falklanders will wish to stay in their homeland :-)
And there is where Unasur, OAS and UN come handy :-)
Aug 08th, 2010 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and Britains veto :-)
Aug 08th, 2010 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, twinky:
Aug 08th, 2010 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They are not “Servants with a passport not good for residence in Britain” anymore....”
One more time you’re totally wrong:
“The Falkland Islands are one of fourteen British Overseas Territories. As such, the UK recognises and encourages the Islanders’ right to self determination, including their right to remain British if that is the wish, freely and democratically expressed, of its people. The Falklands have been continuously, peacefully and effectively inhabited and administered by Britain since 1833. The only exception to this was the brief illegal occupation by Argentine military forces in 1982”.
Go: http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/south-america/falkland-islands?profile=today
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Aug 08th, 2010 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we are looking forward for Britain to use their veto for such an insignificant nationalistic issue.... Thats part of the plan too......
Thats part of the plan too......
Aug 08th, 2010 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck with the plan wont work in your lifetime though,if at all
Adolf's 1.000 years Reich lasted only 5....
Aug 08th, 2010 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Berlin Wall fell so quickly that I nearly didn't make it to town....
History is normally slow... but sometimes.................
Just an old man's fantasies boy...
Don't worry.... Be happy.....
Don't worry.... Be happy.....
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am happy, every day the Falklands remain British,not because they are British mind,just as long they are not Argentine that makes me very happy:-)
You are easy to please........
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, Argentine Impotant rage over the Falklands :-)
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Impotant?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twinky, you have no room to talk. Would you like the rest of us to highlight every spelling mistake you make?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, what can be expected of an immigrant!
Could be Important?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could Be Imported?
Could be Imponent?
Could be so many things.
I didn't know Sticky was an immigrant! Doesen't matter... he is kind of human anywhere :-)
Hey ho. Breaking news!!!!!! Twinky is an IMMIGRANT!! Admitted from his own keyboard.
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt trying to prove to the regime that he is a properly brain-scrubbed and docile animal, sorry, Argentine.
Well we got the malevolent pixie twink off script :-)
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was it Imponent rage then?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One trick pony?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Important rage?
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The slang term “one trick pony” is used to refer to something which can only be used for one very specific application. The term is also used to describe people; for example, a chef who can only produce one really good dish might be known as a one trick pony. The term is generally used in a disparaging way, since it suggests a lack of flexibility and an inability to work outside very specific parameters. Most people try to avoid creating or becoming a one trick pony for this very reason.
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhh
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Me like!!!
I am a “One trick pony” in here
One really good mission.......:-)
The term probably originates from the “dog and pony shows” of the early American era. A dog and pony show was a small circus with a limited number of animals and performers, and often the performances were simple or lackluster. Trick ponies and horses have a long history of being used in circus performance, but a horse that only does one trick wouldn't be very interesting or impressive to watch.
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Dutch cap fits
Never mind the horse... the important thing is the perfect trick!
Aug 08th, 2010 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mal :-) vi :-) nas Ar :-) gen :-) ti :-) nas :-)
and if you say it loud enough
Aug 08th, 2010 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I ”think2 that you all are becoming imbecilic, not profound.
Aug 08th, 2010 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor brits, they feel so lonely in the Malvinas Argentinas issue, not even their master support their cause.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7040245.ece
Still reading old newspapers Marco? It's August and nothing has changed!
Aug 09th, 2010 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing will ... other than we are fast running out of news articles to comment on :-)
The Falklands are British - get used to it !
You're right hoytred!, we are in august and still US WILL NOT SUPPORT UK ,NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas Argentinas
I´m in Mdq port: This port will replace Stanley in south atlantic tours.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alem, Pl.Grande, meretricqs...instaed bucolic stanley.
The US will not support Argentina either! Look at the history of US attitudes on the issue and you'll see that the US isn't likely to get very involved either way.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And if it gets involved at all it's more than likely to lean towards the UK.
The US just doesn't care ... not yet anyway. If the Antartic get to be a big issue as surely one day it must, then they'll be looking for another Diego Garcia ..... maybe we'll be able to assist :-)
Billy must be a fisherman!
Aug 09th, 2010 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think, interested to know what trasport ship lik has been cut? One has just arrived with freight from at least 3 S American coutries. On your side over Ushuaia - it is actually quite a nice place to visit - but Stanley is far cheaper for the cruise ships. At least one large one has cancelled Southern S America now because of extorinate port and landing charges in Arg and Chile.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0God for you Islander! :-)
Aug 09th, 2010 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course God is for the Islanders!
Aug 09th, 2010 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 Hoytred:
Aug 09th, 2010 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The US will not support Argentina either! Look at the history of US attitudes on the issue and you'll see that the US isn't likely to get very involved either way”.
20th & 21 centuries history shows U.S. and England have helped each other in many occasions. England in WWII was supported by the U.S. before 1941 and after; supplies and manpower. During the Falklands’ war president Ronald Reagan offered Margaret Thatcher help:
“Dear Margaret:
I have just talked at length with General Galtieri about the situation in the Falklands. I conveyed to him my personal concern about the possibility of an Argentinian invasion. I told him that initiating military operations against the Falklands Islands would seriously compromise relations between the US and Argentina, and I urged him to refrain from offensive action. I offered our good offices and my readiness to send a personal representative to assist in resolving the issue between Argentina and the UK.”
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/109401
Liberals: Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton and the Democrats running the U.S. have changed the rules of the game. “They do the talk but not the walk”. The only democrat deserving my respect is a memory: FDR. I still believe the “new U.S. pacifism” will side with Britain.
Well, Think & Marco, here you are showihng your affect for the Chilean people.
Aug 09th, 2010 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not concerned at all for the lost money and jobs that thisn lack of ships means for the Southern Chileans. That reflect how are you inside, a fanatic nationalist like Hitler or Mussolini not a democratic and amercianist guy. We have discovered your mascarade now.
Next thing missing is you ask your goverment to invade our islands at the Beagle Channel. Remember your history as a not reliable country because your government never kept it word i.e. Treats, trade compromises, due payments, etc.).
But, as well as the Falklaners will keep on their land, we will grow up without your help, or better even your “help”.
All this is a Chilean problem, not an Argentinean!
Aug 10th, 2010 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Extra-port costs and recession in the developed countries has contributed to the 50% decline in cruise visitors during the last two years.”
“The harbour fees of Punta Arenas are about 20% of the total port costs.
However the problems are the other services’ costs such as pilots, signals, tugs”
Ushuaia has a greater infrastructure which allows them to handle up to five cruise vessels at a time, plus all the buses needed to get the people on tours and moving round town.
That is not the case for Punta Arenas”, said the president of the Channel pilots association, Victor Leddihn.
Ushuaia has a greater infrastructure which allows them to handle up to five cruise vessels at a time, plus all the buses needed to get the people on tours and moving round town
Aug 10th, 2010 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Southern most shithole,tours to southern most post office,southernmost golf course and southermost railway going through a treeless landscape
LOL
Sergio Vega : ”Next thing missing is you ask your goverment to invade our islands at the Beagle Channel. Remember your history as a not reliable country because your government never kept it word i.e. Treats, trade compromises, due payments, etc.).”
Aug 10th, 2010 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From what you say, any resemblance to UK is purely coincidental. :)
Malvinas belong to Argentina!
Simple response for Chile. Welcome any cruise ship that DOES NOT use any Argentine port, no matter where it has come from or where it is going. Also, mobilise Chilean Navy to ensure no cruise ships are “bothered” by nasty neighbours!
Aug 10th, 2010 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone believes that they can still send orders to the Chilean Navy. And notice that the Punta Arenas radar will not work again for your planes. Have you replaced it with the right stuff?
Aug 10th, 2010 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have recognized that the failing are in our port infrastructure, of course.
Aug 11th, 2010 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I´m claiming is the bad “brother country” reaction from you, as you were the big trophy winners, instead a concern because our local economy will faal due the lack in the vessels calls at P. Arenas.
That is a demonstration of a non existent brotherhood from your country.... That´s all I have said....And I keep my opinion about....unfortunately, may I say?.......
What are you talking about ???
Aug 11th, 2010 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What “bad brother Country reaction” ???
1) The entrance of Magallanes Channel is a depressing place with all that oil platforms.
2) Punta Arenas is placed on a uninteresting flat area.
3) For Cruise Ships is much more logical to sail the Beagle Channel, Ushuaia and then up through the beautifull Chilean Archipelago and fjords up to Valparaiso.
What the hell are we supposed to do???
it is good to see that the Argentine argument for its sovereignty claim over the Falklands has not developed past “Malvinas Son Argentinas”. The more Argentina blockade the Falklands, the more the Falklands want nothing to do with Argentina, which is only a good thing. Argentina need to make the Falklands dependent on them, but they just keep fighting a losing battle. A bit typical of Argentina, but they keep believing that they are such a world power.
Aug 11th, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “Falklands” are Stone and Earth..... they don't care about Bennies or Argies..
Aug 11th, 2010 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The settlers are of no interest for us.
We don't want to made you dependent of nothing.
You are doing an excellent job yourselves......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk0RHqK-gek&feature=related
Nearly bed time and the Falklands are still British,what's the betting they will be British in the morning?or still British in Thinks lifetime :-)
Aug 11th, 2010 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sergio Vega is just a nationalistic chilean who is afraid because his ideology is less stronger with the years. People like him should be in museums!
Aug 12th, 2010 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sergio appears to be a sensible man who has made it to the 21st century. Unlike axel and Twinky and Billy the Haze and Argentino and others like them who haven't made it out of the 18th century.
Aug 12th, 2010 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that Uruguay has indicated its wish to follow a path not dictated by Brazil or Argentina, Chile might like to consider doing something similar.
Yes, I'm a nacionalist, but no fanatic, and of course because I lve my country as all of you. I try to seee the future not the past, but unfortunately there is a old fashioned costume over the red leftist in order to keep the hate between people because is the only way they can get followers. That´s why their ideology is falling down all over the world and they are maskerading themselves as little lambs but keeping their deep believes. It´s dangerous, but people is not dumb any more and they are rejecting them.....
Aug 13th, 2010 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0In reference to our government, I hope it will be advised that it´s not the right way what it's walking in the foreing affaires and be changing as Uruguay is doing, even we are not full members of Mercosur and our country have a lot of bilateral trade treats which ensure us not depend on the “good neighbors” we have to the East
Sergio, if you are a democratic nation, the solution is in your own hands. But note that I have said elsewhere that I will not buy any Chilean products for so long as Chile, internationally, supports the bandits to your East.
Aug 13th, 2010 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no room for giving money to a nation that supports our enemy.
I can understand your eager, but the most of our people is not supporting the way that the previous and new goverments holds the Argentine claim. At least, in my city the comment is that we have a wrong leading over this matter as an heritage from the past 20 years of weak leadership.
Aug 14th, 2010 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will be difficult to the new President to change the way, but not impossible, due the missunderstood sense of solidarity.
I´m watching in this moment on the local TV that have been changed the Directors Board of the EPA (Southerm Port Enterprise) and it will be the same with the CEO over the next days, to change the policy on the matter to get back the lost vessels in the near future.... I hope from now on we can have better expectations. May be soon other pilicies also will be changing...
Sergio. We will wait to see whether you come up with any good news. For the time being I am pessimistic.
Aug 14th, 2010 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So far, Argentina has stopped Chile trading with the Falkland Islands. Now LAN is going to merge with TAM. Will the Brazilian government step in and say you can't fly to the Falklands?
Of course, on the plus side, that would most likely stop any Argentine families visiting war graves on the Islands.
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