MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands, ‘a really valuable training’ theatre for the £ 75 million Typhoon
IT’S almost a year since the Typhoon aircraft took up the role of air defence of the Falkland Islands, and their presence is a source of great pride with Falklands’ residents. The aircraft, costing in the region of £75 million each, patrol the skies and undertake valuable training on a daily basis. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesJerry Pook flew Harriers in the Falklands War, a relation?
Aug 23rd, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A really important quote:
Aug 23rd, 2010 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Here the threat is of a much lower order so that is what we train for.”
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Aug 24th, 2010 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 04 x £ 75millons is much more the cost of the port needed by kelpers, no money no delepment in this dispute scenario. I recomend to read economic discussions published at finn
Aug 24th, 2010 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0'The weather makes it interesting, and can catch us out, as you saw in June when we were diverted to South America'
Aug 24th, 2010 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Pook, Malvinas are in South America not Europe nor Asia or Africa. You flew to mainland South America thanks to permission granted from Argentina in order to prevent that your expensive airplane and others landed in the water.
Now it's funny you should say that Billious Haze, as only yesterday I was reading something about the FIG looking into the financing of a deep sea port and agonising over a projected population expansion.... there is going to be more of them and they're getting more self sufficient!
Aug 24th, 2010 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dumbo - they diverted TO South America ... which would suggest that they were not IN South America when they commenced the manouvre ... a little too subtle perhaps?
Mr. Steve Pook :
Aug 24th, 2010 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The weather makes it interesting, and can catch us out, as you saw in June when ”Hope & Faith” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_&_Faith) were diverted to South America.......“
Is this your way of delivering a late ”thank you” ???..........
You are welcome Squadron Leader :-)))
Well after all, the guy seems to be smart and is going for a desk job just in case you know?
Aug 24th, 2010 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck in your new job and try to be paid in whatever but not Pound just in case too as you seem to be a very prudent person.
This thread is flooded with argentinian tears.
Aug 24th, 2010 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go home, don't you have homes of your own?
Aug 24th, 2010 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To whom is your question addressed?
Aug 24th, 2010 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it is to the Typhoon pilots and ground staff, the answer is: Temporarily, where we are. Our family homes are in Britain, but we have to be here because of nasty neighbours.
If it is to the officers and crew of HMS Portland, the answer is:
Our home is our ship. Our family homes are in Britain, but we have to be here because of nasty neighbours.
If it is to British ground troops, the answer is:
Temporarily, where we are. Our family homes are in Britain, but have to be here because of nasty neighbours.
If it is to Falkland Islanders, the answer is:
Of course we have homes. We live in them. On the Falkland Islands.
Thanks for asking.
After all, home is where the heart is.
Aug 24th, 2010 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#12 Typhoon:
Aug 24th, 2010 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here the neighbourhood is so quiet!
Unless some inept hawkie pilot ask humanitarian permission to fly over Argentina because it´s raining on the islands strip.
Lack of iraqi civilians and crowded afghan weddings to drop your “maxwell-Smart-bombs”?
Duty and Britannia call, don´t loose the Middle East / Bactrian opportunity for killing some innocent people!!!
(14) Pheel
Aug 24th, 2010 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please Mr. Pheel... .....
Britons don't kill innocent people........ they just cause some “colaterall damage”..........and then they promise an investigation of the “alleged incident”..........that is never-ever heard of again.
“Lack of iraqi civilians and crowded afghan weddings to drop your “maxwell-Smart-bombs””
Aug 24th, 2010 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just incase it's beyond your brainpower to realise, the pilots on the islands have a lack of iraq(even though, we are no longer there) and afghan weddings because it's impossible for a eurofighter to take off from the islands and drop bombs in either country.
If i was them, i wouldn't have even asked to fly over, it's not like theres anything you could do about it anyway.
it seems someone objected to my comment that we could cope with just one plane, this was removed, perhaps insulting.[to insulting]
Aug 24th, 2010 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps the paper and whoever complained will exept my [sorry]
we can protect the falklands with [two planes] is this ok
zhete, 'If i was them, i wouldn't have even asked to fly over, it's not like theres anything you could do about it anyway.”
Aug 24th, 2010 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/04/falklands-thick-fog-forces-two-raf-typhoons-and-tanker-to-land-in-punta-arenas
Really?
“We are very grateful to both the Argentine Authorities and the Chilean Authorities for their cooperation and rapid response which ensured that this emergency was resolved swiftly and with no loss of life.”
Hoyt, read the article , they were in South america, ...old english fool.
Billy, The cost of the Typhoons is irrelevant to falklands Economic development- eg deepwater port. They are paid for by UK - if they were not here the RAF would not have 4 less x £75million - it would just have them elswhere - they are part of the RAF - not a special extra. You will find out in time that the Falklands Govt itself will raise the capityal it needs for Development from a variety of sources which will include overseas investment finance - same as most countries do.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marco- can you not get over the fact that we are close to and thus geographically yes- part of South America, we always have been and always will be -that is why we still trade with S America, but there it ends. I have no doubt that with the tanker those aircraft could have flown north over international waters to Montevideo instead - Punta Arenas was the obvious geograpical first choice.
This 1800's cartoon represents what really England was and is about nowadays.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/English_imperialism_octopus.jpg
@Typhoon
Aug 25th, 2010 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t get “nasty neighbours” stuff may be you are talking about the Irish, French, may be Spanish, Portuguese??
Our only neighbours down here are the Chileans
Go back home before you get hurt.
: )
Look the other way .... the British are behind you :-)
Aug 25th, 2010 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@21. Well, Spanish isn't too far off the mark. Let's see now. During the fog incident, the Typhoons had flown from Brazil, so no problem there.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0They landed in Chile, so no problem there, either. Going to Uruguay would have meant turning all the way around.
What's that big splodge in the middle? That's the nasty neighbours!
Let me understand this correctly.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have to be grateful that Argentina permitted the Typhoons to land in a life threatening emergency. Well then, thank you for doing the decent thing.
I will not bother to mention those occasions where Argentines in a life threatening situation received assistance from either the Falklands or British Forces, mainly because it was the decent thing to do and it is bad manners to grand stand those occasions demanding thanks.
Some pilots have an incredible skill for justifying with pseudo-logic that they wanted fueguian lobster for dinner...payed by The People.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0A symbol of the future.
Continue like this and take care of foggy weather. It´s very frequent around here.
Yes, the fog was clearly a political plot to get the pilots a free meal.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0zethe, you got it!
Aug 25th, 2010 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never mind the thousands it cost in fuel to get this free meal.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're an idiot.
“I will not bother to mention those occasions where Argentines in a life threatening situation received assistance from either the Falklands or British Forces,”
Aug 25th, 2010 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LIke during the sinking and murdered of almost 400 young conscripts sailors in the WW2 Belgrano( more than half of the Argentinians dead in the conflict) in order to derail peace proposal from Peruvian president?
Small matter of some dago imperialists invading sovereign territory.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The captain of the Belgrano, Hector Bonzo, has testified that the attack was legitimate (as did the Argentine government in 1994).“
”Argentine Rear Admiral Allara, who was in charge of the task force that the Belgrano was part of, said “After that message of 23 April, the entire South Atlantic was an operational theatre for both sides. We, as professionals, said it was just too bad that we lost the Belgrano.”
You've been told this before. Remember? Is it that it doesn't fit in with your MENTAL picure?
Let's get something dead straight. You lot started a WAR. You may have thought Britain couldn't or wouldn't respond! YOUR problem! In a WAR, people get hurt or killed. It's not a movie or a video game. You can't stop it by pressing a button.
Of course, your own country could have made a totally acceptable and obvious “peace proposal”. All you lot had to do was pack up your equipment and people and get off the sovereign territory.
Narco, you really are behind the times and so wildly inaccurate with your postings. The peace moves at the time were NOT public and had nothing to do with naval operations. To quote your own Argentine Admiral in charge of your southern command in a public interview on a BBC TV newsprogramme after the war -“ We were at war, in war it is your duty as a naval officer to sink the other person,s ship - before that ship can sink yours”. He was of course 100%correct. The Belgrano was steaming a triangular “holding pattern” awaiting orders to do a pincer attack once your northern group of your aircraft carrier and destroyers was in position and launching air attacks on the british Fleet. The direction her bows were in at the time of the torpedo impact is totally irrelevant. Your Navy knows it - and accepts it.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was straightforward naval war deceision- the British were not to sure exactly where your carrier was-but they had worked out the plan! Therfore simple decision was to remove the one half of the pincer that you do know about. Tragic loss of life yes - but it happens in War - and WHO started the 1982 war eh?
I was against drunk dictator Galtieri and his war to save his rear end , like thatcher. No british soldier or civilian died before that day, those are the typical excuses of murderers.Is good to see God's punishment for this two leaders:jailed and cancer for one; dementia and slow dead for the other one.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOy23MLY1I&feature=related
How unfortunate that Argentina did not follow the example of its leaders. Although dementia seems quite prevalent.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0End the illegal alien occupation of Islas Malvinas, Argentina now, british illegal aliens go home to your homeland, and take the fakland island holdings with you, and the honourable darwin lewis clifton OBE pirat.
Aug 25th, 2010 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
as soon as you argentinians go home, we may follow, you kill and steal other peoples land, then pick on the little guy, but as soon as another little guy that stands up to bullies, you run like cowards, you throw insults from afar. but as every day goes by, your forces refuse to come out and play this proves beyond doubt the mark down your back [yellow]
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We agree to end all illegal occupations ...... but we are staying put in the legal ones :-)
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0down with argentines illegal occupation of subjugated people
Aug 25th, 2010 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and wanting to subjugate the Falklands
The Chagos Islands became, like the Falkands and a dozen other small remnants of the British Empire around the world, a Crown Colony. (Later, in a terminological manoevre to deal with the fact that the tide of world opinion had turned against colonialism, the British Crown Colonies were re-named by an act of Parliament as the British Dependent Territories; and they were subsequently re-named again as the British Overseas Territories.)
Aug 26th, 2010 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/English_imperialism_octopus.jpg
And your point is?
Aug 26th, 2010 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0When Marco has nothing relevant to say he spout anything in a futile attempt to make himself look intelligent. He appears to be a consitent dullard!
Aug 26th, 2010 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Beef, along with the same tired 200 year old squid cartoon...
Aug 26th, 2010 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 038 Marco independance is a choise, one we willingly give to the islands should they choose it.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the Belgrano, don't start a fight with us, our troops will kill yours, it's as simple as that.
If you're going to cry every time you loose a boat in a war don't go to war. we lost a few ships and you don't see us crying about it or retreating.
Small point about Argentina “doing the right thing” in respect of the Typhoons and their VC-10 tanker. Overflight and landing, specifically in the case of emergencies, is a matter of international law.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah yes,
Aug 26th, 2010 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see others have dealt with the Red Herring of the Belgrano being raised.
During the rescue of survivors from the Belgrano, the British allowed Argentina to fly Neptunes to search for survivors. Instead, Argentina used the Neptunes to conduct ELINT missions to track the radar picket to guide the Exocet attack.
So yes Britain did, unfortunately Argentina deceitfully used this to attack us. Much as they used hospital ships to move military supplies to Stanley during the Falklands War, in complete contravention of the Geneva convention.
Yes Marco, forget to include that in Argentina's glorious history didn't they.
The Falkland Islands started as a colony. Just as Argentina did. Except, us Argentines are the descendents of colonialists in regions where native people belonged before. This is a matter of shame to us.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't stop you committing more shameful acts, does it? Trying to steal other people's land. Invasion. Denying that the people are people.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crocodile tears!
Exactly the kind of shameful acts you committed in the past. Aren't you ashamed by chance?
Aug 26th, 2010 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How the British feel about the past is irrelevant to this discussion and Margo's words. What about the future?
Aug 26th, 2010 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on, Margo. You say you are ashamed of the actions of your ancestors in stealing other people's land. That was in and before the 19th century. What about your actions in the 20th and 21st centuries?
Marco, it is good that you acknowledge the wrongs of some old fashioned european colonial actions of 200-300 years ago. But they are not your fault - nor ours nor anybody here in 2010. They happened -its history- we need to make sure those sort of landgrab old fashioned colonial land-grab actions stay where they belong - in history. Today it is peoples of territories that matter.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 047 yaghan: All nations committed shameful acts in the past when you use todays sence of morality. The world(Well, most of it) is moving on from such things, Argentina's desire for the islands is colonial.
Aug 26th, 2010 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so what we want to hear from you MARCO is you saying sorry, for the killing of innocent people in the Falklands war, and tell us that you agree that the Falklands should be independent and free from argentine interference, and you ask your government to seek peace and recognise the islands right to live in peace, [over to you]
Aug 26th, 2010 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WELL WELL, i SEE THAT SOMEONE IS COMMENTING UNDER MY NAME.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment number 45 is not me, however somehow this impostor is alLowed to comment under my name
MR EDITOR CAN YOU VERIFY WHO'S DOING THAT?
The Chagos Islands became, like the Falkands and a dozen other small remnants of the British Empire around the world, a Crown Colony. (Later, in a terminological manoevre to deal with the fact that the tide of world opinion had turned against colonialism, the British Crown Colonies were re-named by an act of Parliament as the British Dependent Territories; and they were subsequently re-named again as the British Overseas Territories.)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/English_imperialism_octopus.jpg
You are quite right margo, the imposter is clearly someone of intelligence!
Aug 27th, 2010 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chagos Islands, now the world's largest marine conservation area.
An inconvenien fact, margo-the-clown!
(53) Cadfael
Aug 27th, 2010 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Woooow .....“Chagos Islands, now the world's largest marine conservation area.”
Let's break that record then!
Move your squatters out from Malvinas and let's declare those Islands the world's largest marine conservation area..............
Another honorable record for Great Britain!
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@zethe
Aug 27th, 2010 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0“If you're going to cry every time you loose a boat in a war don't go to war”
Do you mean like captain West is doing here mate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtuoWjHh1co&feature=related
“My men were splended, i was amazed by how well they preformed”
Aug 27th, 2010 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On what planet was that crying?
We lost ships, we can live with that, we carried on fighting. You lost a ship, retreated your navy, and cried warcrime. pitiful.
Unlike his spamming, I'm not reporting Margo's comment at (52). He has a right to whinge about the same thing that Argentine hackers did to the Penguin News site. But you only get one go, Margo, so all your spamming has been reported and will continue to be reported until it, or you, are removed.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some islanders looks like do not like Freedom ofd Speech nor listen or see the truth.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Bingham case:
“For five years Mike Bingham and his family suffered police harassment, death threats, attacks on their property, and attempted deportation. ”
Eventually Bingham took the Falkland Islands Government to the Supreme Court for Human Rights abuse, and won
Thatcher is a war criminal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOy23MLY1I&feature=related
59, Marco: Actually, Mike Bingham did not take the Falkland Islands Government to court for human rights abuses. It was a judicial review of the Government's decision not to grant him permanent residence in the Falklands. I seem to remember the Chief Justice was scathing of the Government's original decision, but he was also critical of Mike Bingham for, among other things, being economical with the truth about his academic qualifications.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But that is what democracy is all about. Mr Bingham was able to take his case to the court, he won, the Government was forced to reconsider its decision and, hopefully, lessons were learnt.
The other accusations that Mr Bingham made, he never took to court, so they were never tested. Quite frankly, having worked as a lawyer in private practice in the Falklands and, therefore, always being on the opposing side of the Government, I found them very difficult to believe.
So, like your leader says, Marco, don't believe everything that you read in the newspapers!
Such a typical Margoese comment.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mike Bingham - Found to have falsified his qualifications.
The “Supreme Court” was the FIG Supreme Court, thereby proving that, whilst mistakes may be made, the basic democratic structure of the Falkland Islands is secure.
Argentina has 40 million war criminals. Guilty of genocide. Guilty of breaches of the Hague Convention on the Laws of War. Guilty of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of civilians.
@harrier61
Aug 27th, 2010 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only I know to be reported and denounced of war crimes were the British and by your own soldiers.
“The inquiries, announced this week by both countries, spring from accusations in a book written by a former British soldier who says he saw Argentine soldiers who had surrendered being pushed off a cliff and shot to death by British troops.”
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/23/world/reports-of-falklands-war-executions-spur-inquiry.html
Next time may be your dream come true...
@62 Of course the only war crimes you know of weren't yours. I'll give you a break. Argentina's War of the Desert is classified as genocide. Trot off and read up on the Hague Conventions on the Laws of War and the Geneva Conventions.
Aug 27th, 2010 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Explain the 100+ civilian Falkland Islanders kept in a single building with no food for months. Explain the Argentine use of so-called ambulance ships for the transport of ammunition. Explain the filling of Falkland Islanders' homes with Argentine excrement.
You only hear what you want to hear.
nothing but proper gander, instigated by tartars in Argentina,
Aug 27th, 2010 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you lost get over it, you will be telling the world we tossed rats at you next. blaaaaaaaaaa
War crimes...ahhhhh Thatcher, is good to see that there some honest people in UK, that by the way made her look like a harrier 61 or briton(fools)
Aug 27th, 2010 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOy23MLY1I&feature=related
she may or may not be your favouret lady,
Aug 27th, 2010 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but by christ she put you lot in your place.
to be beat by a lady is one thing, but to be beaton by a lady you condemm is very embarrasing for you.
What goes around comes around, another lady, Cristina is your worst nightmare.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@harrier61
Aug 28th, 2010 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0British are famous for war crimes they have invented the concentration camps and all theses stuff.
They abuses children in Iraq and Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaOYl3B4Jno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaOYl3B4Jno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaOYl3B4Jno
Actually, the Spanish invented the concentration camp in Cuba. Another myth gone! You really must DO SOME PROPER RESEARCH!!!
Aug 28th, 2010 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“British are famous for war crimes they have invented the concentration camps and all theses stuff.”
Aug 28th, 2010 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not true, but how can you go on about our use of concentration camps in the past when argentina has also used them? Or is this another one of those days where you are throwing stones at us from your glass house?
Nico, I just saw the brave british soldiers beating children.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those brave british soldiers!
or I should say coward criminals!
Those “kids” were throwing grenades at them. But i agree, it shouldn't have happened.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0zethe. Would you have preferred the troops to have shot them?
Aug 28th, 2010 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've looked at NicoDoom's videos. You've answered the first question I was going to ask, i.e. what were the teenagers doing before they were caught.
I reckon they're lucky not to be dead. Ever noticed that all British police forces have batons?
For the others? Well, the Americans finally admitted using white phosphorus. The injuries displayed are consistent with the use of white phosphorus. Notably, the place mentioned was Fallujah. Occupied by the Americans.
zethe,“Those “kids” were throwing grenades at them” ???
Aug 28th, 2010 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did not see any explosions, those were rocks, and the soldier filming and enjoying the horrible beating of those children should be shot.
@harrier61
Aug 28th, 2010 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brit and american soldiers seem have been trained by Videla, Galtieri, etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoK-HpkVKT4
Interesting how this sadistic sick soldier filmed and enjoyed the beating of childrens, because they threw rocks at them. Now he is trying to make money with that film. And if you hear this a..hole at 5:oo says“ all the army reports show that I was an oustanding soldier and one of the best”.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The essence of this video condensates between 5:29 and 5:33............
Aug 28th, 2010 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Military Men are Dumb Stupid Animals to be used as Pawns for Foreign Policy.
Henry Kissinger
the same old crap from the same old people, one bad apple, and they condemn the whole barrel,
Aug 28th, 2010 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does that mean because you guys had a bad dictator you are all murderers and criminals
if only that was true, but hey , whats a little lie from people that dont understand the truth,
76 Marco: These incidents happened very often and grenades were used all the time. But either way, thats no excuse. it shouldn't have happened.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The army isn't perfect and they make mistakes.
That's not just a “simple mistake” zethe, these sick soldiers should go to jail and certainly not be allowed to make money out of their sick actions.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with you, war is an unfortunate thing and these things sometimes happen when troops are under great stress. I believe the MOD is looking into it and they are usually very strict with things like this.
Aug 28th, 2010 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A friend of mine was put into army prison for three months for a simple fist fight with a squaddie of his, im sure these guys will have the book thrown at them.
A little bit of ” Detective Work”
Aug 29th, 2010 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0On this thread; a ”New, improved Marco” wrote at 45:
45 Mаrcо Aug 26th, 2010 - 04:54 pm
”The Falkland Islands started as a colony. Just as Argentina did. Except, us Argentines are the descendents of colonialists in regions where native people belonged before. This is a matter of shame to us.”
That ”introspective and autocritical” comment pleased some turnips…..
Later on another the ”Old Marco”ruined everyting at 52:
52 Marco Aug 27th, 2010 - 01:34 am
”WELL WELL, I SEE THAT SOMEONE IS COMMENTING UNDER MY NAME.
Comment number 45 is not me, however somehow this impostor is allowed to comment under my name
MR EDITOR CAN YOU VERIFY WHO'S DOING THAT?”
Since then we have heard no more about the ”New, improved Marco”……
And incidentally we seem to have lost one of our “Best British Posters”: Justin Kuntz
Could that be a coincidence?...
He was last heard of on 44:
44 JustinKuntz Aug 26th, 2010 - 04:14 pm ; just 40 minutes before the apparition of the ”New Marco”..........
Well…….. Justin was a pain in Wikipedia too……. Always antagonizing everybody.............…Specially the British contributors that “dared” to have a divergent opinion…………...
Think, spamming again?
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Evidence#Justin.E2.80.99s_incivility_has_been_getting_worse_to_the_point_of_total_unacceptability
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read and enjoy.....
I rest my case
Broken Link at (84)
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Evidence#Justin.E2.80.99s_incivility_has_been_getting_worse_to_the_point_of_total_unacceptability
Read and enjoy.....
I rest my case
How annoying... Third time lucky?
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Evidence#Justin.E2.80.99s_incivility_has_been_getting_worse_to_the_point_of_total_unacceptability
Anybody notice the convenient lapses of memory? How more than 12,000 Argentine troops “collaborated” in breaches of the Hague and Geneva Conventions.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmmm… Wiki doesn't allow links to the arbitration process… very sensible…..
Aug 29th, 2010 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paste in the adress window, after : “ http:// ”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Evidence#Justin.E2.80.99s_incivility_has_been_getting_worse_to_the_point_of_total_unacceptability
Makes quite interesting reading…………
Twinky. No more interested in Spanish lies than in Argentine lies.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't intresting in the slightest.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's see if Justin Kunz really is gone......
Aug 29th, 2010 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And with him those ocasional “Autocritical Argentineans Impersonators” with a very particular “Justinian” english writing style..... :-)
Think very impressive “detective work”
Aug 29th, 2010 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Since then we have heard no more about the ”New, improved Marco”……
And incidentally we seem to have lost one of our “Best British Posters”: Justin Kuntz
Could that be a coincidence?... ”
Justin...Justin...Or either you went to look for that expensive equipment in Malvinas left by Argentinian invisible forces or Disney Spongebob squarespants told you to change your name to Marco.
Old Marco.
:-)))
Aug 29th, 2010 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If his account was banned wouldn't he just create a new one like you did think when your account was? I suppose him being banned is a posibility. he could be otherwise busy, it is a bank holiday weekend here.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Liberty dissapeared in the same way...........
Aug 29th, 2010 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But he really asked for it !!!!
He did insult the editor in the most terrible way!!!
He called him “Argentinean”
Can you believe it?
Strange that. When I was objecting to Margo spamming all over the site, I suggested that if his remarks didn't get removed, it would prove the editors were argies. Lo and behold, his spam comments were “disappeared”.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or is “disappearing” people and things just a normal argy trait?
Think, it may be a possibility that it's not a conspiracy, and that people might have lives outside of mercopress.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After the impostor(Justin) wrote under my name, in order to distort my point of view, many comments folowed. I was so moved with their comments of support that almost brought me to tears. Some even were close to recognize that UK was wrong in 1833 and Malvinas belong to Argentina.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you.
You still banging on about that, there was like 2-3 posts someone used your account for, and about 20 posts of you guys complaining about it.
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone gets it, move on.
All the fuss just because a pair of Tiphus pilots made an interview in an attempt to cover the shame of the fog (perhaps the need for fueguian Centolla with Argentinian Sauvignon wine was true).
Aug 29th, 2010 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At Tia Elvira´s, for example.
http://www.deviajealapatagonia.info/ushuaiacomida.html
In memory of Justin Kuntz...
Aug 30th, 2010 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0A debater with a cause....
His Truth, only his Truth, nothing but his Truth.....
(100) Pheel
A young, medium bodied Chardonnay would have been a more sensible choice for the pilots King Crabs.....
They are, after all, highly trained in the art of surviving ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6pt6kRPJGk
Aug 30th, 2010 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0101 Think,
Aug 30th, 2010 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the #102 video finally shows that “The flight for dinning King Crab” is the only sustainable explanation to Punta Arenas landing, because how this beautiful 4-g Death Bird could be stopped by a thin amount of fog?
:-)
Pd: Typhoon, don´t forget to use frequently the afterburner, it increases the bill!!!
Typhoon#102
Aug 30th, 2010 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7931465/RAF-to-shrink-to-World-War-One-levels.html
(103) Pheel
Aug 30th, 2010 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be lying if I said that I haven't “Think” about this incident.............
Normally I don't like to speak about military equipment (puajjj...) but.... The advanced avionics and the “Top Notch” ground Systems at Mount Pleasant make the excuse about 2fog“ very hard to believe....
Maybe they have some Chilean azabache ”queridas” they can't live without.... as this american guy:-)
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/33248
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKegAqMyFe0
Aug 30th, 2010 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything has to be a grand conspiricy for you guys. It's like you're all constantly paranoid.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fog has always been a problem to people who fly, always.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/63677/plane-breaks-landing.html
Shagging a soft spoken Chilean beauty is “grand” but not “conspiracy” boy .................
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Combine that that wit some King Crab and Chardonnay........ No price is too high ;-)
it was a con to confuse the argies, and it worked
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yea, so confused that we can´t stop laughing at the “Space Wars” tech. And the last “duty-calls”-interview for cover...amusing!
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Underestimating islands public opinion?
Hope not, please!
BTW, have you tested our Chardonnay? :-)
Your pilots wernt laughing last time they flew against ours.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These incredible, amazing and expensive Europeans planes...a little bit of Argentinian wind or fog and they are useless and they need to run scare to the mainland and request Argentinian help.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yea good old argentina the savier of the free world with marco pole at the top. lololol
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton, You can join Justin to watch Disney channel right know boy.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0run rabbit run rabbit run run run,
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you not realise how much of an idiot you really are?
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They can still fly and even fight in fog, as weapons now days don't require line of sight, they use radar. for landing however, you require line of sight to land on the strip, which is why all around the world planes crash, and many people die in thick fog(I provided links in my last post), i believe the polish president died because his plane hit heavy fog. I think it was about 7-8 years back 26 people died in while trying to land in argentina.
It was a decision for the pilot, between risking his life or going elsewhere.
Going where.... London?
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too far I guess.
not very wise to insult the polish, they are not as silly as we are, and they take no prisoners, savvy
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Zethe.....
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is trying to pull a “Justin Kuntz”.....
He “ should ” know that the Eurofighter AND the Mount Pleasant base are equiped with ILS Category III C – A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations.....
Late President Lech Kaczynski died trying to land on a Russian Airport without any ILS system.....
117 Marco, actually, those planes got to the islands flying non stop from England. But in an emergency situation it's not possible, as the logisitics are not set up for it.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, they did not ask for your “help” they requested to fly over your land. Had argentina said no, they would have had no choise but to just fly through your airspace anyway, it's just nice to ask.
should have gone to specsavers
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, Don't lie.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Category III C – A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations. This category is not yet in operation anywhere in the world, ”Category III C“ is not mentioned in EU-OPS. Category III B is currently the best available system.”
Is the full quote. Also i have found no link proving that the islands have ILS, and as i dont think neither of us have been there.
And you are still a Turnip.....
Aug 30th, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your “quote” is from Wikipedia and it is OLD....
Quite a few CIVILIAN airports in USA are operating on Cat.IIIc....
And of course M.P., has it......
No I haven't disappeared and I see the stalking still continues.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The arbcom case on wikipedia was a farce, my father had a major heart attack and I wasn't around to defend myself. Interesting though, that I frighten you so much that you go to so much effort to dig up dirt.
Please do look it up, I did hold my holds up to when I was wrong, never once tried to wriggle out of the consequences. What I don't do is try and write under any one else name but my own. Can you spell Kangaroo Court?
So now you've invented a fake persona and trying to pin it on me, poor effort Think you're going to have to try harder. Even you've got to figure people would twig it ain't my style.
I have simply been on holiday.
Now Think or Marco, any chance you could actually address any of those awkward questions, or will you persist with the rather poor personal attacks.
This post has suddenly dissapeared from the Most Commented and More Viewed list, having lost his “duty-calls-ever-ready-servicemen” appeal.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Operation King Crab, for wikipedia, from now on.
Fair enough, Im sure i read that British airports have begun using MLS, Rather than ILS.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have not found any information saying that M.P. Has either system to that quality(it's a small airbase, not a huge international airport).
Also, The system requires an auto land from the plane which not even all passenger aircraft have the system. The eurofighters autopilot is not currently designed to autoland so it would not be able to use the Category III C even if MP had it.
Not to worry anyway, they'll soon be replacing the Eurofighter with JSF, and some time after that with robot aircraft. Argentine military scale backs will likely mean they will soon be bidding for second-hand microlights off eBay as replacement fighter aircraft.
Aug 30th, 2010 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We won't be replacing the Eurofighter. Currently we have the harrier for carrier operations, The JSF will replace that. Eurofighter replaces the Tornado as our land based aircraft.
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