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Chile to insist on extradition from Argentina of terrorist accused of crimes in democracy
Chilean president Sebastián Piñera's administration announced it has decided to file a formal complaint before the National Refugees' Committee (CONARE) as a way of deepening their discontent on the political asylum the body decided to grant to ex guerrilla fighter Sergio Galvarino Apablaza Guerra. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWELL chile noes your chance, go get them boys,,go get them
Oct 16th, 2010 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ briton #1 “WELL chile noes your chance, go get them boys, go get them?”
Oct 17th, 2010 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is that supposed to mean?
Best wishes to Chilean government, it won't be easy guys :(
How Mrs. K pretend to extradite the muslim terrorist from Iran claiming it at the UN General Meeting some weeks ago and by the other hand dennie the extradition of leftist terrorits to Chile ?
Oct 17th, 2010 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope if the CONARE don´t change it desition our Gvt. suit Argentina Gvt. befor international courts for itacts.
Fortunately, Mr. Piñera is getting clear who Mrs. K and husband are, so the distance with them will growth enough to don´t fall in their game as the Uruguayan president did.
well as I don’t condone violence, but if Chile feels she has-been insulted, then Argentina must be shown that she can no longer get away with insulting her neighbours
Oct 17th, 2010 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ briton # 4
Oct 17th, 2010 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Fernández de Kirchner insults everyone equaly, she can't stop doing it, so you're not unique. Therefore I tell you, do not worry, be happy!
There's flawed democracy in action if you ever saw it, a member of the Argentine Government Civil Service, with the ear of the botox queen, herself a corrupt politician, is married to a terrorist.
Oct 17th, 2010 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine democracy is flawed if this is the type of candidate and government the average Argentine citizen has limited options to vote for in an election.
No wonder Argentina is always crying.
I wonder if an effective case could be made to extradite various Argentine leaders from the last 20 years to stand trial in the Falklands on the grounds of “crimes against democracy” based on the fact they repeatedly deny them a say in their future and even had the nerve to go and change the constitution in 1994 without their democratic consent, which reminds me ..... and they call us unilateral?
Oct 17th, 2010 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rhaurie-Craughwell #7
Oct 18th, 2010 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be such a drama queen. England is not exactly an example of justice and fairness, not exactly unimpeachable roflol
Warmongering... nothing more.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0~7 Exactly how do you impeach a Home Nation of the United Kingdom?
Oct 18th, 2010 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0~8 We're testing short range missiles, as we've tested twice yearly the same missiles for the last 28 years, missiles which have a range of six miles, yet you lot are buying armed Patrol Vessels with a range of hundreds of miles, and you have the cheek to tell us we're warmongering? Get a life!
Hello Chile. Would you like some assistance from, say, the SAS. They could almost certainly snatch him for you, or turn him into a non-event.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 011 Typhoon
Oct 18th, 2010 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you try it? Do you want to have a few SAS members dead by our special groups?. And I'm not talking about our military forces.
An example:
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Especial_de_Operaciones_Federales_(Argentina)
2.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Especial_de_Operaciones_Federales_(Argentina)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Especial_de_Operaciones_Federales_(Argentina)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Especial_de_Operaciones_Federales_(Argentina)
@12
Oct 18th, 2010 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Love the high tec training Facilities was it your dads shed
SAS killing house
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvoGef_PfK4
DSE, You think 75 Federal Police with negotiators can compete with SAS? Bahahahaa are you an old man who is trying to remember when Argentina actually had a Military? Seriously you obviously know how to use the internet, do some research! You newest fighters are so out of date they sell them on Ebay as collectors items. HAHAHA. You know I have actually seen Federal Police, when they are not taking bribes they are smoking and talking on their cell phones, they looked pretty lazy and untrained to me but what do I know.
Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you want to have a few SAS members dead by our special groups?”
Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, the SAS are widely regarded as one of if not the best Special forces in the world.
Infact. The SAS have have a higher budget than the entire Argentine armed forces.
............. and it looks as though they're getting a massive increase in the Defence Review. Not certain the SBS would agree with your comment about SAS supremacy though :-)
Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aye i agree, the SBS often get overlooked. But i've always thought that's something they rather enjoy.
Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently they want to make the force much bigger. The Americans are very impressed with the SAS & SBS.
Sticky
Oct 20th, 2010 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let me clear you up something because unfortunately you don't have the ability to see and understand the things.
These training facilities, are built in that way so that the instructor can see how they develop the training. For that reason as you can see, there are maybe four or five instructors in the top of the facilities, to control the time and the way that the special groups develop the training mission.
See?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIJ_zQQ4TGQ&feature=related
Good video from the SAS, they perform counterterrorist missions too.BTW was your dad one of the terrorist killed by the SAS members in the video?
Fredy
Why don't you shut up mexican? They can do a better job more than your poor police forces who are being killed by the drugs dealer. By the way, how many policemen have been killed by smugglers this week? 15? 23?.
Other thing, don't you know that the GEOF constantly trains with special units of other countries like the FBI Hostage Rescue Team, the US Army Green Berets, the Israeli Yamam and numerous SWAT groups?.
Zethee
So why don't you try it? Instead of talking bullshit try it. I'm sick of warmongers. I say again: try it. If they have a higher budget than the entire Argentine armed forces why don't you try it?? Oh, I remember you don't have the balls to do it.
Just in case your boys try to do it, we will be expecting them.
Advice: Be well groomed. :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIJ_zQQ4TGQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIJ_zQQ4TGQ&feature=related
These training facilities, are built in that way so that the instructor can see how they develop the training. For that reason as you can see, there are maybe four or five instructors in the top of the facilities, to control the time and the way that the special groups develop the training mission
Oct 20th, 2010 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0In other words they dont have the budget to train other than in sheds,well if we get a hostages held captive in a shed,they are the boys to call
Nice vids
Snipers, good, bet the Argies can wait for a rifle that can kill 350 miles off
Well impressed with the Benny hill chase, Argie special needs soldiers at their best
I m surprised of the childish level of this post, as usual started from childish (or beasty) warmongers.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But an intervention from SAS should be welcomed...for two reasons:
1) an opportunity to “welcome” them, as DSE states.
2) example of colonialism, the roar around the world would be fantastic. Do it!
(in the negative side, the Kirchners would be reelected, as Old Thatcher was) :-(
Funny….
Oct 20th, 2010 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SAS
KSK
Légion étrangère
And many other so called ”Supermen”after him but………
Osama and his forty thieves keep riding towards the sunset in their trusted dromedars, Jolly Humper I to XLI...............
Old veteran Apablaza could easily defeat and capture alive a whole commando group of those elite European turnip sprouts using only a pair of his unwashed socks :-)
The defending force did not engage until the entire raiding party had re-grouped and were preparing to move out. One British soldier was hit and wounded while the raiding party returned fire using small arms and M203 grenade launchers, resulting in the death of the Argentine Commanding Officer (according to British assessments) and the suppression of any defensive effort.
Oct 20th, 2010 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine version states that their marines remained in shelters during the Glamorgan shelling, so they were unable to face the SAS in combat. The British wounded were the result of shrapnel from exploding charges settled by the Argentines under the airstrip in order to deny its use to the enemy. The blasts were triggered in the belief that the operation was a full-scale assault to take over the air base.
Argies must of used up all their stocks of unwashed socks,still no excuse thet had plenty of sh*t filled pants :-)
@12 DSE
Oct 20th, 2010 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be a silly little boy. The SAS wrote the book. And the addenda. and all the revisions.
So why don't you try it?. Explain me why don't you try it???
Oct 21st, 2010 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Pheel's answer have hit a nerve.
”But an intervention from SAS should be welcomed...for two reasons:
1) an opportunity to “welcome” them, as DSE states.
2) example of colonialism, the roar around the world would be fantastic. Do it!
(in the negative side, the Kirchners would be reelected, as Old Thatcher was)”.
“Good video from the SAS, they perform counterterrorist missions too”
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, the SAS are the ones who invented the majority of the worlds counterterrorism tactics and have at one point or another, trained 90% of the worlds special forces. Down to the “killing house” recreation that your youtube video shows to the stungrenade that is the staple of the worlds special forces. There isn't another special forces group in the world who's record of successfull operations is even half as long as the SAS.
“So why don't you try it? Instead of talking bullshit try it. I'm sick of warmongers. I say again: try it.”
Dumb question is dumb.
It's also another fact that the majority of the worlds special forces are modeled on the SAS from the creation of said units.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeahhh..... Suuure....
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Osama and his forty thieves till ride towards the sunset in their trusted dromedars, Holly Humper I to XLI...............
25 Zethee
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that the best that you can do?. Your brain has been cloudy by the typical british fog. Wow man is a plague. Come on make an effort. Give me a valuable answer.
Oh I see you don't have it. And you started (and your tiny partners) to talk about a SAS operation in my country. 11 Typhoon: “Hello Chile. Would you like some assistance from, say, the SAS. They could almost certainly snatch him for you, or turn him into a non-event.”
“Come on make an effort. Give me a valuable answer.”
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An answer to - So why don't you try it?
Answer me: Why should we try it?
Go to war and kill eachother over an internet debate. Dumb question WAS dumb.
And it still doesn't change the fact that the SAS are widely regarded as the worlds best special forces group.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So next time, tell your tiny friends that don't say stupid things and don't propose crap like this: 11 Typhoon: “Hello Chile. Would you like some assistance from, say, the SAS. They could almost certainly snatch him for you, or turn him into a non-event.”
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You got schooled. :-)
You skipped school?
Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DSE
Oct 21st, 2010 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Goes to the special school
This will be my last post in this article. Jaja see? both look so pathetic. Come on, insult me I don't care. Is typical from the british, when you confront their arguments and delete them (showing that they are wrong), they start to insult.
Oct 21st, 2010 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And them they say that we are the bullies.
So next time, tell your tiny friends that don't say stupid things and don't propose crap like this: 11 Typhoon: “Hello Chile. Would you like some assistance from, say, the SAS. They could almost certainly snatch him for you, or turn him into a non-event.”
You got schooled. :-)
Ps: I will wait for a phrase of THINK or Pheel.
Según el gran filósofo Diegus: La tienen adentro.
Saludos
El Dassault Super Étendard.
”Come on, insult me I don't care. Is typical from the british, when you confront their arguments and delete them (showing that they are wrong), they start to insult.“
Oct 21st, 2010 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You never confronted my arguments, you thought that the SAS would be ”schooled“ by your SF. After i provided information proving otherwise you bypassed that fact, quoted someone else, then told me i got ”schooled” because i'm not moderating other british posters.
You was insulted because your post was stupid.
Alright DSE doesnt go to the special school,happy now?
Oct 21st, 2010 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About Jolly Jumper and riders: Dalton Bros. are already riding the chopper to the sunset, too!
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0They need a new source of money for filling the Big Hole. Rest of the World, red level alarm: they are looking for your resources as a source of financing, that´s has been their play for 500 years.
They will send “superior” special forces...survivors from Basra and Helmand “success”. (LTA, yes.)
Survivors? Hardly any SAS have been killed in both iraq and arghanistan and they are doing 3-4 missions a day with amazing success.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Recently took out over 50 taliban commanders in two weeks.
“Recently took out over 50 taliban commanders in two weeks”
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That this number include Women and Children?................
Or is it only those bearded elderly elders......
38 If they have not been killed as you say, they are supposedly “survivors”.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too bloody for my taste to make jokes about your “successes”...too many deads...but, please, land on earth.
The compass is lost, your goals are as clear as they were in Basra, so the results. As a brit hi-diplomat analyzing Karzai: “we appear to be in the wrong side”. You will give up sooner or later and a bloodbath will come to the area, the same than in Irak.
SAS or SOS can´t change that.
That this number include Women and Children?................
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or is it only those bearded elderly elders......
You Argies can give some advice on the matter
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB77/
“That this number include Women and Children?”
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Taliban are being commanded by 12 year olds then possibly.
“If they have not been killed as you say, they are supposedly “survivors”. ”
By that definition the six billion people on this world are all “survivors”.
“You will give up sooner or later and a bloodbath will come to the area, the same than in Irak.”
Yes, we will. Both invasions had planned withdrawals and we plan on leaving Afghanistan in 2015 after the afghan army is trained to defend themselves against the taliban.
Britain suffered defeat in Iraq, says US general
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11419878
“The Americans decided to win. We decided to leave,” says retired senior British Gen Rob Fry.
Or believe what you want, it will not change reality.
Shame for the victims that you continue generating.
People have oppinions.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reality was that the withdrawal from iraq was planned for years. Our UN mandate had ran out. Those are the facts.
A third (US Gen. Keane + UK Gen. Fry + this) “opinion”:
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't know that you could see the British withdrawal from Basra in 2007 in any light other than a defeat,”
says Col Peter Mansoor, who was executive officer to Gen David Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq.
Petraeus..Petraeus...sounds familiar.
Planning next withdrawal ?
Kidding just in order to mutual understatement of what is happening with last INVASIONS of independent countries.
Not a bit of reflection or self-criticism about the role that UK has to abandon in world affairs? Or is it OK?
Don't get me wrong. In NO way was iraq a victory, i would never say that. it was a terrible mistake. We should have never been there and after we found no WMD's no-one wanted to be there, not the government, not the public.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A defeat, however it was not. By it's definition a military defeat is:
the ultimate acceptance of cessation of combat by an armed force brought on through exhaustion of the troops, complete loss of cohesion, lack of weapons and equipment, significant interruption of logistic support or loss of effective military command. It is usually followed by a surrender of forces to the victorious enemy.
This, did not happen.
I am, and always was against the occupation of iraq. Did we decide to leave Iraq? absolutely. Was we forced to leave iraq? no.
Afghanistan, however. I do not feel any remorse over. I was on the Piccadilly line line when that bomb went off, i was lead through the pitch black tunnel with people screaming and crying people covered in blood.
Are we eventually going to leave Afghanistan? Yes. Theres only so much one can do.
(46) Zethee
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your personal moral justification for the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and its continued destruction till this day is that three British citizens of Pakistani ancestry and one Jamaican guy bombed the London tube in 2005 and you had to walk through a dark tunnel?
Is that it?
Was you there?
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's my person reason, yes. it's not the entire reason as you full well know think, you aren't an idiot.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There citizenship is a null point, this is one of the easiest nations in the world to gain one.
The main point we went to war, as you full well know is because of the 9/11 bomings, which had a large ammount of british deaths also.
We've never allowed terrorism, and we never will.
Young Man
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me just ask you three questions…………
If you were a young democratic Argentinean lad in the 70’s ....
Which side would you have been on?...... The Military Dictatorship Government or the terrorists?
If you were a black young Southafrican lad in the 80’s ....
Which side would you have been on?.....The White Apartheid Government or the terrorists?
If you were a normal young Afghan lad today.....
Which side would you be on?..... The Karzai Puppet Government or the terrorists?
it's going to have to wait a couple days, i'm under the influence of booze, will have to wait till sunday.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A pitty
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The booze had maybe loosen your brainwash a little and allowed you to answer from the hearth................
heart? always do, never been afraid to admit im wrong when i am.
Oct 22nd, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My mind controll is broken! why have you not asked any questions think?!
Oct 23rd, 2010 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now that i am slightly sober.
Oct 24th, 2010 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If you were a young democratic Argentinean lad in the 70’s ....
Which side would you have been on?...... The Military Dictatorship Government or the terrorists?”
Was there a difference think, between either?
“If you were a normal young Afghan lad today.....
Which side would you be on?..... The Karzai Puppet Government or the terrorists?”
By terrorists you obviously mean our troops, fair enough.
What you are asking me is if i would prefer an armed force who provides aid and protection when possible over a force who is willing to mass rape, kill and rob anyone i know, a force who is more then willing to blow anyone up if it makes a point, a force who thinks it's right to openly kill civilians if they can make a point.
Was your question rhetorical?
I think i misread your post, still a bit hungover.
Oct 24th, 2010 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If you were a normal young Afghan lad today”
Well it would be a choise between a force giving you aid and trying to help you over the taliban who have a direct profit over these farmers and are happy to blow them up or shoot them.
Again, the answer is obvious.
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