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Argentina complains to IMO British military exercises in Falklands/Malvinas

Wednesday, October 27th 2010 - 16:38 UTC
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Argentina informed the International Maritime Organization (IMO) of a letter from the United Kingdom referred to missile test firing in the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, which it wishes to circulate among IMO members as a way to warn of the deliberate violation of IMO regulations by the British government. Read full article

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  • stick up your junta

    Likewise, the letter from the Argentine government claims Argentine sovereignty rights over the Malvinas Islands, South Georgia, and South Sandwich, along with the surrounding maritime areas that make up part of the “national Argentine territory”.

    I wondered when that was coming

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • khh

    come and join the exercise, send some of your steam powerd skyhawks over, lets have some fun.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    Shot themselves in the foot with 31/49 again, since they negated the basis of that document in March and April 1982 by unilaterally invading British Sovereign Territory with thousands of troops against small detachments based on South Georgia and the Falkland Islands.

    Apparently only 'Argentina is responsible for the safety of navigation in the Southwest Atlantic' since 1974, but then they also secretly invaded Thule Island, another British Territory, in 1976, and established a Naval Base there.

    So 'safety of navigation' must therefore include military occupation and annexation of another countries territory, by the Argentine military, either in secret, as scrap metal fifth columnists, and also en masse against a lightly defended people. Such 'safety of navigation' includes the hurding of defenceless women (including pregnant women), children, and old people in unsanitory conditions for days on end without food or drink.

    Apparently this type of action is explicit and sanctioned as a part of 31/49 and the IMO has to act to defend such actions because as a result of Argentine stupidity (plus a yellow streak up all their backs), the people on the Islands now expect adequate defence of their way of life, which has included short range missile tests for the last 28 years in response to the exorcets launched by Argentina at British shipping in 1982, that they felt were required under 31/49 to ensure that 'safety of navigation'.

    Again, a complete load of old bollox that has been sent to the IMO rather than the ICJ as one would reasonably have expected. Then again the ICJ would probably view it for what it is, a load of old bollox.

    Anyway, good news is we're now down one K, and the other isn't far away from the grave either.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Wireless “Anyway, good news is we're now down one K”
    Now there are 40 000 000 of K's.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • khh

    a long road always starts with the first step!! just another 40 000 000 to go then!

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

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    Oct 27th, 2010 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    you talk about peronism? peronism is starting in malvinas

    http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=5835&source=3

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @ 7 Marcos Alejandro Yet more Argentine vague empty worthless threats. Juvenile personal abuse. Not even an attempt to muster the usual vacuous arguments. Tiresome.

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    The IMO appears to be the wrong place to complain to .... is there an IMFO ? (International Missile Firing Organisation).

    Still the head of the IMO will be able to pop around the corner from work and have a chat with our Foreign Office over a Pimms or somesuch ... every cloud, as they say :-)

    In any case, aren't the military exercises over now?

    Usual wind and water from Argentina !

    Oct 27th, 2010 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @Billy (8)

    Eh? Peronism is introducing minimum wage leglislation...What the hell are you talking about?

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    I think this is a fantastic opportunity for Britain and the Falkland Islands to write to the IMO and explain that Argentina's current 'denial of services' to the Falkland Islands, which denies free passage to innocent vessels, is against International Maritime Law.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (12)

    Would be nice if the FIGleaf and the FCO complained to the IMO….

    But they will not…:-(

    Why…???

    Because they know the answer such a objection would eventually get from the IMO…

    “Innocent passage does NOT apply to ships loaded with poached fish caught in UN Declared Contested Waters with Unilateral Licenses.”

    Nice and simple….

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    So let me get this right, Argentina is complaining to the IMO that missiles are being fired from what they claim (without much justification) is their territory while simultaneously trying to blockade the same not-actually-their-territory in controvention of UNCLOS?
    Does that strike anyone else as slightly odd (at best)?

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “Innocent passage does NOT apply to ships loaded with poached fish caught in UN Declared Contested Waters with Unilateral Licenses.”

    If that's the case then think then why don't you let the UN sort it out, taking a bit much on yourself aren't you by acting unilaterally on your interpretation what the UN says.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (15)
    That is the official Argentinean position at the moment....
    If you just cared to read the info avaliable instead of whining...
    Innocent Passage........
    Innocent Ships.......
    Innocent Islanders....
    Innocent Oil Tycoons...
    Innocent British Troops...
    Innocent ....... My Left Foot !

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    So ... what are the IMO going to do with this complaint? Much the same as the Stamp society does with the regular complaints it receives from Argentina ...... Into the bin!

    Wind and water Think ... nothing but wind and water!

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Hmmmmmm........Wind and water......
    Toroweap, on of my favourite places was formed by.....
    nothing but wind and water...............

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    wind & water = gas & piss

    No change !

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @16

    well for all your big talk there's a few items on your list your'e doing nothing about:

    Islanders...how many Islanders have you evicted from “your” territory...zero,
    Oil tycoons...How many of the oil support vessels and survey ships have you arrested...zero
    British troops...How many British Naval asseets have you impounded....zero

    Seems that your unilateral 'denial of services' isn't that effective does it think, to be fair you have suceeded in causing one cargo ship to cease calling at Punta Arenas and Montevideo, it now calls into Brazil (who's one of your 'allies' I believe?) and I've heard you've arrested a couple of yachts....

    You're doing a great job!

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (19)
    Hmmmmmm........Gas & Piss......
    ...................................................
    ...................................................
    You really know how to squelch an inspirational streak....

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    It's always nice to see Argentina making a total fool of itself.

    Like its statement that it is responsible for safety of navigation in the South West Atlantic. Something that no-one else seems to recognise.

    Like its claim to sovereignty rights over the Malvinas Islands, South Georgia, and South Sandwich, along with the surrounding maritime areas that make up part of the “national Argentine territory”. Something that has not been recognised by anyone outside South America, and even then only under heavy-handed “pressure”.

    Like its attempt to increase its territorial waters, an action that is not valid in international law until it has been approved by the UN, that has been rejected by Britain and, by not recognising the territorial and archipelagic waters rights of the Falkland Islands, is in itself a breach of UNCLOS.

    Still, breaking laws and ignoring UN resolutions is nothing out of the ordinary for Argentina.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Innocent Argie Prison Officers?

    http://www.argentinareporter.com/2010/01/17/systematic-human-rights-abuses-in-argentinas-prison-system/

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Always a good ides to indulge in meaningless rhetoric. It costs little when one can demand that ones sycophants indulge in the same story. It might even persuade some of the brainless.

    The question is: Does Argentina have a case? If it does, why doesn't it take its case to the ICJ? Can't do that. It might reveal its imperialst colonialst agenda. Yet another instance of the Argentine/Nazi BIG LIE!

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Because win or loose, the Argentine future governments will no longer have a subject to divert the publics attention in hard times.

    Oct 28th, 2010 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    perhaps we should make a complaint when Argentina has military exercises, irrelevant where they are held.
    as a possible irritant to us, ??

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Can't find any reference to a 'missile' policy at the IMO .... bit remiss of them perhaps. There was something about each member country being responsible for implementation of the various rules, but that of course only means that the FIG are responsible for enforcement around the Falkland Islands.

    “ Hey, we're about to test a missile” “Any ships in the way?” “No”, “FIRE”

    Rules complied with ! :-)

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 04:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cadfael

    Yup, sounds right to me! :-)

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    usual hot air from B.A. could be tiresome except that its hilarious. the damn cheek of them, claiming British territory. why not claim South Africa as well? its just across the way from the “Greater Argentinan Empire”.

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Guess they'll just have to be taught another lesson. Maybe we'll need to remember that this is Argentina trying to impose its will. Is there any reason why Argentina shouldn't suffer?

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Trouble is , she has no will to impose.
    And the only wish she has, is wishing that she could [impose something]

    Oct 29th, 2010 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yaghan

    I wonder ehat goes on in your mind, really. So you are some sort of teacher, Conqueror Darling? Cannot wait for your lessons. Just tell me where and when, and maybe you learn something about suffering in turn.

    Nov 02nd, 2010 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    I think yaghan fancies you Conqueror, you've pulled!

    Nov 03rd, 2010 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    don't forget the black leather, Conqueror!

    Nov 03rd, 2010 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Bring out the Gimp!

    Nov 03rd, 2010 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yaghan

    Much ado about nothing, three stooges. Keep barking!

    Nov 04th, 2010 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    We will.
    :-)
    for as long as the Falklands are British....('V' to you) :-P

    Nov 04th, 2010 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Ever noticed how East Falkland looks like a bulldog.

    Obviously British. Woof, woof.

    Nov 05th, 2010 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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