MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Brazilian navy plans a fleet of 20 subs, six nuclear powered
The Brazilian navy is planning to build and incorporate in the next decades a fleet of six nuclear powered and 20 conventional submersibles (15 new and five refurbished), making it the most dissuasive fleet of South America. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI don't think this is right, lol.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 026 subs is is double the size of there entire surface fleet.
The world is changing, this is happening meanwhile the british navy are scrapping important part of their navy.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://gcreport.com/index.php/analysis/177-strategic-consequences-of-the-british-naval-budget-cuts
Zethee, why do you think that it isn't right?
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 026 subs? I read 20 subs, and 5 of those 20 subs will be nuclear
this is disgusting, while good old Britain is reducing its fleet for the sake of peace, the Brazilians are building aggressive ships of war
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0we have no enemies anymore [according to Cameron and co,]
we want only peace, so brazil is being aggressive , just to help Argentina, two giant countries bullying a poor little peaceful island, disgusting we say disgusting ??? of to bed lol
4 briton “this is disgusting, while good old Britain is reducing its fleet for the sake of peace”
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain is reducing its fleet for the sake of being out of money.
And even if all the reductions take place, we'll still have the 4th biggest military in the world .... Brazil's a way to go yet :-)
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's a long way between a stated intention and 'dive, dive, dive' ... we shall see, we shall see. However, that said, this should be viewed as a statement of Brasil's inclination to rise to the challenge of stepping-up to be the great hemispheric leader it inevitably will become. Let us wish our neighbour Brasil well and sucess in this endeavour and let us hope and trust that whatever military and naval forces it shall delelop and deploy will serve the purpose of advancing and strengthening Brasil as a leading bulwark of freedom in our evolving continent. Bravo, Brasil!
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever military and naval forces it shall develop and deploy will serve the purpose of advancing and strengthening Brasil and UNASUR as the leading bulwarks of freedom in our evolving continent.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its a big piece of ocean - the South Atlantic, and even bigger when one considers the future commercial interests and reach of Petrobras with oil and gas resources confirmed offshore the Falklands. The Brazilians would want a good navy to keep the Argies at bay and the sea-routes open, unlike today when the Argies are intend on sea-blockading the Falklands and denying trading with ports in Chile and Uruguay!
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Zethee, why do you think that it isn't right?
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 026 subs? I read 20 subs, and 5 of those 20 subs will be nuclear”
You clearly have not read it right. 20 subs, six nuclear powered, 15 new conventional 5 current ones refurbished: 26 subs.
There is no source for the information. Other websites i have read before this news have commented on there future to build a new aircraft carrier by 2025, new landing ships and new frigates(from BAE or france) and one nuclear sub(french) these are all real deals that are happening, this seems plucked out the air.
Thirdly, 26 subs would be over double brazils current surface fleet(which in it's self, is insane.), I have not seen any news saying that brazil is doubling it's navy budget, but seems to be doubling it's navy? These things do cost money.
A navy with more subs than surface ships would be strange to say the least, well...quite insane really. They don't help against piracy much. Good at fighting other fleets but thats about it, thats the reason most navys have large surface fleets and much smaller sub fleets.
Just to point out that this story has naff all to do with the Falkland Islands.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Incidentally, can anyone tell me why Brazil has twice as many icebreakers as either the UK or Argentina? Strikes me as a bit odd for a country that close to the equator.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee, yes you're right, I totally read it wrong.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee, there are investments to expand surface fleets. But since they don't involve foreign deals, they aren't covered by the foreign press.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the subs expansion this article reports, I can understand your puzzlement - but that will be a gradual process: it is forecasted to extend up until 2047. Mercopress should really try to insert a bit more details into their articles.
http://www.band.com.br/jornalismo/brasil/conteudo.asp?ID=100000370552
Yes, after thinking about it i realised it's more likely that the navy will have 2 sets of 10 subs, when the first set phases out due to old age, the second 10 will come be built.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, that's true, I read another article earlier http://moraisvinna.blogspot.com/2010/11/marinha-do-brasil-planeja-frota-de-26.html , but I don't think Brits can read Portuguese.
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Xbox - I know plenty of Brits who can read Portuguese. It is all or nothing with you isn't it!
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.And it usually means nothing
Nov 22nd, 2010 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain and the U.S. are the acknowledged leaders in submarine warfare.
Nov 23rd, 2010 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their abilities are not limited to the capabilities of the submarines. When submarines don't come back...............
Russia and france are not to be overlooked.
Nov 23rd, 2010 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russian tech is old, but they've certantly done the most when it comes to subs.
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