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US State Department obsessed curiosity with Argentina’s “First couple”

Tuesday, November 30th 2010 - 06:27 UTC
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Amongst the 250,000 documents released by the WikiLeaks organization is a cable that shows the intention of the White House of “preparing a written product examining the interpersonal dynamics between the Argentine governing tandem” (“ruling couple” or First couple”) Cristina and Nestor Kirchner, according to the published material. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    Perhaps she should keep an eye on her husband instead.
    American concessions after this embarrasment?
    (”support for Argentina’s Falklands/Malvinas’ )

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Not likely ... if anything the U.S. will be keen to please their principle allies ... so maybe a little more support for the British position.

    The Yanks need us far more than they need you :-)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ”Mrs Kirchner has long been diagnosed as a bi-polar case”

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHH……..You mean she is Bipolar ???

    Like Winston Churchill ???

    Like Theodore Roosevelt ???

    GOOOOOOOOODDDDDD………

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Was that 'good' or 'god' Think?
    ;-)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ”Mrs Kirchner has long been diagnosed as a bi-polar case”

    Ohhhhh……..She’s Bipolar ???

    Like Jean-Claude Van Damme ???

    Like Sinéad O’Connor ???

    Cristina can do both then; kick your ass and sing you out of the house :-)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    I like the:

    “bi-polar case (which needs lithium treatment) “ I read the whole document in English and I didn’t found that??? May be Mercopress is confused with Lilita Carrió.

    “who was contrary to her travelling to the area unless there was “something (diplomatically) pre-cooked”. This episode is evidence of the “ineptitude of the Kirchners in foreign policy”.”

    Coming from US, should her takes it as a compliment? At least she hasn’t any wikileaks like Hilary had. haha

    “Secretary Arturo Valenzuela”

    This guy needs a special chapter the Chilean born Yank wannabe has inferiority complex and wanted to lectured Us about law in Argentina.

    And he got a kick in his back lower part and was sent back to Miami where he belongs with a recrimination about what it is the line that should never cross.
    Then he wrote: “The United States celebrates the leadership of Argentina in a number of areas, including fighting terrorism, drug trafficking, and nuclear nonproliferation. During my first official visit to South America..”

    Like Leon Panetta The CIA gordo boy director who has to publicly apologizes for his verborragic excess.
    The CIA's Panetta begs Argentina's forgiveness
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x12286

    The Us is a joke

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Other than pointing out the K's were paranoid and probably nuts this “embarrassment” will blow over shortly and may be a net positive for the USA re EU and Mid East relations.
    I would think we would have more postings saying CFK was somewhat sane rather than all the Argies agreeing she is nuts.
    BTW Nico: Maybe instead of reading wiki you should read about the leakage in Argentina http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2010/11/30/after-kirchner-scandal-rocks-argentina/
    Yet another scandal brewing, oh when will they end in this forsaken place? Why doesn't CFK take her stolen millions and live move to Caracas? Maybe they don't have the right psycho-meds in Venezuela.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Hey fredbdc take at look..
    “Snapped the duke: 'No surprise there. The Americans don't understand geography. Never have”
    We already know that, 37% of Americans can not find their own country on a map!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-rude-prince-andrew

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-rude-prince-andrew

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-rude-prince-andrew

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ Alfredo #7 Your life gravitates around Argentina haha, You have no peace man, take a break, stop wishing bad on us, cool off man. Thanx for your concerns Alfredo, but Argentina is a sovereignity with compassionate intelligent administrators, we're dealing with people like you everyday, we know what you're looking for ;)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Xbox, Is your real name Elias? Are you a chubby little Tucumano living in BA? Saw your posts on MS FB page. You are infecting lots of sites, I think you need to take a rest too!

    Marcos, What is your point? 64% of Argentinians have not graduated from high school! And...

    Programme for International Student Assessment, which surveyed 400,000 15-year-old students in 57 countries, placed Argentina nearly at the bottom of the scale in terms of performance in all of the areas studied: math (52nd place), science (51st) and reading (53rd).

    I guess that is why they mow lawns and clean our houses.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Most countries that participate in the PISA assessments are developed nations with OECD membership. Even Israel - a heavyweight in science an technology innovation - gets below average scores on PISA.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ Alfredo #10 Tucuman is a great province, El Jardín de la República, Alfredo, donde se proclamó la Declaración de la Independencia de Asrgentina! I always knew you were not from the USA haha. Do you see how cool I am? I can say even more, you are living in Argentina right now. Am I wrong? I'm sorry I ruined your obrita de teatro berreta ;)Saludos hermano latinoamericano jeje

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Nope I live in DC, don't know why you think I am in Argentina? Plus you cyber-stalked me so you know a lot more about me than I do you.
    I could only tell by the broken English and the poor phrasing it was you on FB Elias. I think you are too morochito to be calling yourself a porteno. When did you move to the big city patoruzito?

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Fred, you are being clearly racist and hateful.
    Try to deserve to post here.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ Alfredo #13 I don't even know what FB means. or do you mean Facebook? I don't have a facebook account. But I see you are thinking of me all the time haha. Patoruzito? Hermoso personaje de nuestra tierra Argentina. Ojalá fuera como Patoruzito, pero no, igualmente me alegra saber que te avergonzás de ser latinoamericano, it's funny. I'm sure you are living in Argentina, I'm sure about that ;)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Pheel, How do you figure? Please enlighten me, which “race” am I against? I will give you a hint, there are only 5 races and Latin American is not one of them. hahaha

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    . “Other Latinamerican leaders have been to the White House but Argentina in spite of her strong stand against Iran and in combating terrorism has yet to be invited”. CFK mentioned the case of Brazil’s Lula da Silva who in spite of his close approach with Teheran and having voted against at the Atomic Energy Agency had already visited the White House. “It’s difficult to understand why this is so”.

    Cristina Kirchner doesn't get it or doesn't want to get it.

    Lula was invited first because he is considered by Washington DC, the leader of Latin America. Second, Brazil is a net creditor (US owes them lots of money). Argentina isn't and owes the US lots of money. Nations who don't want to pay or cannot pay yet, aren't invited easily or in front of the cameras.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Fred, what does “morochito” mean?
    “KKK-Nigro”-new version?
    Better to apologize than insist in mistake.
    Bye.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Pheel, you are from Argentina right? I believe morochito is not used as a literal translation but means a dark featured Latin not a negroid. Check with your neighbors before you get your panties n a bunch and get back with me.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ Alfredo #20, you reported my comment jaja. Pretending you are from the US, when you are a latinoamericano, living in Argentina, what a clown.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Xbox, you are such a ridiculous tucumano. What does it matter? Even if I was in Argentina I would be living in a house where they would not even let you walk down the street, behind a tall wall with a guard in the front to protect me from the filthy masses you call companeros.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Derp!

    @Nico.
    Don't get too worked up. He's just a dirty ass wetback mexican living ilegally in the US.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @Derp!

    Yeap! what can we do?

    Anyway Glenn Beck talking about the mess in US enjoy it

    http://watchglennbeck.com/

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Nico, Finally a decent link! Now add Cato.org and maybe you can un-warp your mind from all the drivel you have been taught by the filthy Peronistas.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ Alfredo #22, you are living in Argentina, I kew it hahaha. What a tool you are Alfredo. It's nice to see that all your comments are born of an extreme jealousy. Are you Uruguayan or Mexican? Peruvian???????? If you are from Mexico or Peru I can understand, but from Uruguay? We pretty much feed the whole country of Uruguay, if you're an Uruguayan, you should bow down to us, gato mal agradecido. ;)

    A zamba pa' ti Alfredo, you don't deserve it ni ahí man, sung by La Negra querida, la única, Mercedes Sosa:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nCWma5mZF0

    ¡Malvinas Argentinas!

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Actually Mercedes Sosa used to live in the same condo building as I did in BA ( on a lower floor of course). It was right in front of the French Ambassador's Residence on Carlos Pelligrini/Arroyo. I never saw her but people told me she lived there. I guess it was a pretty famous building but I could not stand the noise from the traffic so I moved to La Lucila on the River.
    Tucumano believe what you want, if you would like to visit me send me an email through FB and I will respond. Can you get a visa to the USA? Oh probably not, sorry.

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    I´m a little suspicious of any article which states ”The document (31 December 2010) described ...”

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ fredbdc #27 Actually I'm from Newton, General Belgrano, Buenos Aires, but we moved to Cap Fed when I was 9. I'm not a Tucumano, but I can't guess why you think that people from Tucuman are “morochitos” and you need to protect yourself from all the compañeros and why you dislike this province so much, and why you think that calling me a tucumano can make me feel bad haha, it's not an insult being a Tucumano. Anyway, I knew you were a latinoamericano, but I don't understand why you've been denying it haha. Is your country such a horrible place that you need to say you're other nationalities? You can't change what you are fred, you are a latinoamericano and you'll die being a latinoamericano. You have issues with skin color. Why? haha I can get a Visa, don't worry, but I don't need a Visa to visit your barrio chabon, aunque más que chabon sos un ortiva. Greets! ;)

    Nov 30th, 2010 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Based on google satellite Newton looks like a dump no wonder your family moved. I am probably going to BA and PDE in Jan/Feb. We should meet in person, do you think they will let you in the Park Hyatt? Last time, I had a lot of trouble getting Argentinians in the Four Seasons they would not let them in based on their skin color. BA is one of the most prejudiced places I have ever been!

    Dec 01st, 2010 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    fredbdc, In your country a few decades ago black people had to ride in the back of the bus and still people of color are discriminated against on daily basis.

    Dec 01st, 2010 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    “Last time, I had a lot of trouble getting Argentinians in the Four Seasons they would not let them in based on their skin” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Chabon, you are better than Jorge Corona with his funny short chistecitos. Hella funny!

    Newton is a lovely quite place in Argentina, good people, great people, horses, cows, some sheeps, domestical fowls, blue skies, aire con olor a campo! It's a small country inside another country, yes, a beautiful little country, that is ;)

    Here is a link with some images of the old Estación Newton.
    http://museoferroviario.flavam.com/galestnewton.html

    Dec 01st, 2010 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    You think I am kidding? I had to pay lots of bouncers to let my darker friends in to the clubs and yell at them at the Hotels. It wasn't fun.
    I am glad you like the town you were born it but seriously if you think that is nice you need to get out more. It looks like it should be condemned and torn down. I am only guessing but I bet you don't have paved roads, possibly the main one in the town and then all the rest are dirt? Am I right? I don;t understand why you get about 50 miles outside of BA and it still looks like the early 1900s it is very strange.

    Dec 01st, 2010 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    muchachos, do not respond again, this person is full of hatred and resentment. Además de ortiva es un otario.

    Dec 02nd, 2010 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    newton looks picturesque & pretty, xbox. l have never heard of Mercedes, such a strong voice. why are we all interested in where someone comes from? and xbox, what have you got against Uruguay? first us, then Chile & now Uruguay. do you like any of your neighbours?

    Dec 02nd, 2010 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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