Wikileaks and Latin America: Same Old Imperious U.S. Diplomats

Tuesday, December 7th 2010 - 07:43 UTC

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by Former Senior Research Fellow Nikolas Kozloff
As more and more documents become available from Wikileaks, the public has gotten a novel and close up view of U.S. diplomats and their operations abroad. Read full article

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Think
“......The Bush administration, not to mention the later Obama White House, have both sought to isolate the so-called “Pink Tide” of leftist regimes in South America....”

If we are the “Pink Tide”; they certainly qualify to be Inspector Clouseau :-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pheel
Think:

our government is not inside “the Pink Tide”. It apparently voluntareed to play the role of “contention” of Evo, Hugo and Correa...
“Watch what I do, not what I say”, (in)famous kuote.

That foreign relations definition matchs ideologically with a model of concentration on government friends (the New Oligarks)

Hard work of transmutation for many one-eyed Carta Cerradas in near future.
Leftism lose its turn, has sold principles for a bean dish.
Regards
Dec 07th, 2010 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Don Pheel:

We can disagree about what shade of crimson our “Estrella Federal” is but.......
I still “Think” that the Gringos fully qualify for the Inspector Clouseau role !

Don’t you agree?

And remember, patroncito, that leftism has evolved a lot in the last 40 years..............

Personally, today, I prefer Silvio Gesell and Vilfredo Pareto's lucubration’s than the “Little Red Book’s” simplisms…..

Cordialmente
El Think
Dec 07th, 2010 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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polacandino
Any intelligent reader of even the most obtuse mainstream media outlets should not be surprised at the amateur machiavellianism practiced by US diplomats. Hillary Clinton's manipulations, however, are quite disturbing.

Character assassination on the basis of emotional instability is a primary tactic used by male politicians in the USA against female opponents. Hillary has had this tactic employed against her successfully more than once in her political career. It is surprising and sad to see that as Secretary of State, she is willing if not eager to perpetuate similar outrages on a national leader with whom she seeks an advantage. Perhaps the worst abusers are they who themselves were abused. Had she been elected the the highest office of the USA back in 2008, she might not have actually been the first woman president. What she did with Cristina is something I would think only a man could do.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pheel
Herr “Politkommissar” Think:

I fully agree on Clouseau´s casting but our dearly Vilma is nearer from PSellers.

About your doktrine preferences, don´t deceive my prejudices!
:-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Vilma?
What Vilma???
Refering maybe to our local Morticia?
(She drives me crazy........... when She speaks French :-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pheel
Neither that Vilma I., nor the Flintstone wife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilma_Socorro_Mart%C3%ADnez

BTW: Our lady in the Board at Shell PLC.
:-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Geeeee.......

I'll have to force myself to memorize all those complicated foreign names from those Diplomatic Yankee CIA Spies at the Embassy....

WAIT A MINUTE !!!

Vilma Socorro Martinez.................

Those Gringos are getting smart :-)))
Dec 07th, 2010 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pheel
Yeahhh, somebody that´s taking holidays these daaays...lowing profiiile...huhu...nobody will realize of the missiiing...let´s charge the batteries and got some further instruuuctions from Mr. Oh-a-brahma ...Those Criollos are getting angry with the leaks... :-)
:-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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rylang23
You two are having way too much fun. Being a Gringo, I wish I could understand what you are talking about. [But, no need to explain it all to me.]
Dec 07th, 2010 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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xbarilox
“For far too long, the U.S. public has remained ignorant of its government’s overseas efforts to turn back Latin America’s leftist Pink Tide. Though scant thus far, Wikileaks’ release of documents pertaining to Latin America is telling. From Brazil to Argentina, American officials have emerged as an imperious and cynical lot. Hopefully in the days ahead we may learn more about the Bush and Obama administration’s handling not only of Brazil and Argentina but also Venezuela, Bolivia, and Honduras.” Say no more. ;)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
(10) rylang 23
You are one of the good eggs in here… so I’ll try to explain anyhow……….

Mr. Pheel and I have, let’s say,“fairly opposed political observances” but apparently, share more than we care to know………………. I think :-)

At (1) I compare the American Administration handling of South America to the clumsy Inspector Clouseau from the Pink Panther films. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiHGD24Jt8c&feature=related

At (2) Mr. Pheel, skillfully reminds me of the past historical failures of the political movement that today is rejuvenating America :-)

At (3) I call him “Patroncito” (little boss) referring to his oligarch past and his latifundist present ;-) and try cunningly to disguise my cold-blooded communistic tendencies dropping some names….

At (5) Mr. Pheel acknowledges the receipt of the word “Patroncito” calling me “Political Commissar” you know, the Stalin guys that administrated the Gulags and other niceties ….
He then mentions a name I can’t relate to: Vilma.
My namedropping smokescreen has worked :-)

At (6) I ask if, with Vilma, he meant our local “Morticia Addams” (President Cristina F. de Kirchner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiHGD24Jt8c&feature=related

At (7) Mr. Pheel clarifies that he was referring to the Honourable US Ambassador; Vilma Socorro Martinez.

At (8) I admit my ignorance but try to hide back the fact that in the “old days”, the spylomats from Watch-ington had “proper” Anglo names ……

At (9) Mr. Pheel refers to the above mentioned Honourable. Ambassadors hastily organized holiday to USA……..

That’s it……. Hope you had some fun reading this…. I had :-)
Dec 07th, 2010 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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rylang23
Thank you Think! That's great! I am glad to see such a high level of humorous civil discourse between rival positions. Thank you both!
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Few things can unite the “new-thinkers” of all creeds in South-America more than the classical “Bad Gringo” cliché of ethnocentric sub-estimation ......:-)

And Wikileaks seems to confirm that that “cliché” is very much alive and well entrenched in Watchington……………
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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rylang23
“And Wikileaks seems to confirm that that “cliché” is very much alive and well entrenched in Watchington……………” which is why I will be living in Uruguay very soon. I can no longer be an accomplice to American Exceptionalism. I am very proud to be a supporter Julian Assange and Wikileaks. He has focused a laser on the vastly corrupt and shameful US government.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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NicoDin
Well mates the Venezuela Bizzare Love Triangle produced by New World Order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWBX_xP5y8 haha

Has nothing to do with ideology else assurance of strategic oil reserves that Mercosur cannot allow to fall under the hands of EEUU.

We saw the US’s influence over Colombian which its another Oil producer country.

Venezuela represented 20% of the oil imports for US and before the discovery of huge reserves in Brazil Venezuela had the bigger reservoir of oil in the western world and was major oil producer.

Oil it is not only the gasoline that you can get from the pumps for your cars else the base of most modern components in the industries.

Brazil and Argentina have intelligently managed to include Venezuela into Mercosur and UNASUR what would be good for Venezuela in the long run and its partners.

Doesn’t matter if the President of Venezuela its communist or Neocon this its the field on what US bases its tactics to isolate a county. And then to put their hands over of course US has local operators anywhere specially in media groups linked with US corps what would be functional to that strategy of Isolation (No name required here I guess).

Old strategy proponed by Kissinger The RealPolitik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWBX_xP5y8 to take control over world resources to assure the predominant power of US.

Nestor K. portrayed as a left/communist/ etc could be easy president of US or PM in Britain and None would note the difference. Hugo Chavez its a liberal compared with the regime supported by US in the Middle East but functional to them.

For that reason I don’t understand why intelligent people are still arguing about ideology.

All its about Interest, Power, Influence what  $$$$$
Easy to say... “how much to pay” easy to do “How much to you?”
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
(16) NicoDin
Never occured to you that many intelligent people have already been and past through your “All its about Interest, Power, Influence” standpoint?
Politics is kind of an Möbius strip paradox, pibe...............
Dec 09th, 2010 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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NicoDin
@Think

Well after reading “Politkommissar” & “ Patroncito” doesn’t seems the complex to resolved. Haha Anyway...

Your paradox resolved here Think : )
Toroidal Transfo http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG

@ Pheel

Peter Seller AKA Anoop Singh here recovering from “The Party” (Argentina) and “Casino Royale” (Greece) haha
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG

http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG

http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG

For the oldies Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass Music
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG Spanish Flea

Bonus Tracks
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG
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http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG

Islanders Argentina calling...
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/web_images/mobe_small.JPG
Dec 09th, 2010 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
(18) NicoDin

You say:
” After reading “Politkommissar” & “ Patroncito” doesn’t seems the complex to resolved.”

Nico….. ……………………..
The Möbius band intricacies are concealed by its simplicity….
Capisce?
Dec 09th, 2010 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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NicoDin
@Think
Ho capito, magari tu non.

1- Here I go again “Politkommissar” & “ Patroncito” doesn’t seem the ideological complex to be resolved. Was missing Zurdito & Fachito to complete the picture. : )

2- Yeah it is a simple strip twisted loop traced to the times of Greeks. ho capito bene ti ringrazio, magari la prossima volta che ne so?

But when implemented some way could be a little bit complex to the majority of the people like torodail coil or in resistor or in tripolar magnetic field, etc.

And that was my point with the pic of the Toroidal stuff, like in politics or economy turned something into something looking complex that most of the people cannot realize and they will never ask.
That its the ways most people see Politics & Economy so distant and complex to them. Mi capisce adesso?

Like you did with my Toroidal Möbius Coil, hahaha.

Ready for Möbius cristal magic? Hey mate after all you bring him to the thread not me, don’t complain eh. Haha : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOylkF0TUaM
Dec 10th, 2010 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Keep it simple then.............

Friday night on a Port Stanley Pub (as I imagine it) with some serious good old times Swedish music :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhjaGRhIYU
Dec 10th, 2010 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Suguler
polacandino is spot on about Hillary Clinton. Its the oldest tactic used against women, to imply they are emotional or hysterical.
Cristina has shrewdly not reacted to it, thus making HIllary look an even bigger mug. Cristina looks like the essence of calmness and level-headedness, which only adds to the perception of HIllary as a paranoid curtain-twitcher.
Apparently Hillary apologized through a letter, which may well become valuable to historians as the only record of Hillary apologizing for something.
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