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Ceremonies at London’s Cenotaph and the Falklands to remember Battle Day

Monday, December 13th 2010 - 14:17 UTC
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The 98th anniversary of the Battle of the Falkland Islands or Battle Day was commemorated at the Cenotaph in the heart of London last Saturday under dull skies, but in good spirits, and with a good turnout. Read full article

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  • briton

    The British always Rember, and never forgets .

    Dec 13th, 2010 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    British, the Argentines also have our glories and remember and not forget the English “despicable.”

    http://www.lagazeta.com.ar/obligado.htm
    http://www.lagazeta.com.ar/obligado.htm

    As in 1845, the British will leave the “Malvinas”.

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    The 1982 Falklands War obviously wasn't one of your “glories” Ant, however it definitely was an Argentine “despicable”. And a little more recent than 1845 (just like the Conquista del Desierto, another one of your “despicables”).

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    J.A. Roberts (#). “Despicable” English invaded us. No “despicable” the English people. 1982 Falklands war, a battle, as in 1845, British home.
    Read Story Patagonian English landowners mercenaries paid to Indian ears

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Ant dont be modest,you forgot the Argentine Glorious Dirty war

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3673470/Argentinas-dirty-war-the-museum-of-horrors.html

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yaghan

    Let us review some of UK's “despicables”:
    #1763: possible intentional use of disease as a biological weapon, which was first posited by British forces under the command of Jeffery Amherst
    #1828-1832: The Black War at Van Diemen's Land, Tasmania
    #1639-1651: Ireland, The War of the Three Kingdoms
    #1845-1850: Ireland, The Great Irish Famine

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Let us review some of Argentinas more up to date “despicables

    The parrilla was used in a number of countries in South America, including Argentina during the dirty war in the 1970s

    The Fifth Brigade, then consisting of the 19th, 20th and 29th Mountain Infantry Regiments[53] and commanded by Brigadier-General Acdel Vilas received the order to move to Famailla in the foothills of the Monteros mountains on 8 February 1975. While fighting the guerrillas in the jungle, Vilas concentrated on uprooting the ERP support network in the towns, using state terror tactics later adopted nation-wide

    The school was recently handed over to a human rights group. They are in the process of turning it into a museum so that no one will forget what occurred in Argentina 30 years ago.

    According to the testimony of Adolfo Scilingo, convicted by a Spanish court of crimes against humanity under the doctrine of universal jurisdiction in 2005, there were 180-200 death flights in the years 1977 and 1978; Scilingo confessed to participating in two such flights, with 13 and 17 people killed respectively

    Dec 14th, 2010 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Oh, that's amusing. The most recent British despicable Ant or Yaghan can come up with is 1850 - and it's got nothing to do with South America.

    You guys really need to try harder.

    Here's another Argie despicable. The Napalpí Massacre of 1924.

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    More recent “despicable” from the “Pirates”
    Boer War, year 1900: British invented the concentration camp (not the Nazis) Horatio Kitchener, 20 000 women, children and men Boers, all of them civilians, died of starvation and poor treatment from 1900 to the end of the war in 1902.

    World War II: Betrayal English, anti-Russian Cossacks were delivered to Stalin. The British handed over to Tito Slavs thousands of non-communists.

    Diego Garcia Island in 1966, the British forcibly expelled the entire native population, some 1,800 people (What? and self-determination)
    His back very dirty

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    More history from Ant.

    But tellingly, he berates us for what we did to the Chagossians (the people who lived on the Chagos Islands, of which Diego Garcia is just one). Which is very ironic, because he would have us do to the Falkland Islanders exactly what we did to the Chagossians.

    Ant, if you think we should hand over the Falklands to Argentina and ignore the right to self determination of the Falkland Islanders, then by default you agree with the treatment of the Chagossians. Or visa versa. Which one is it Ant, or is that going to cause an explosion in your head because you can't cope with the logic?

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    10 J.A. Roberts (#). You're very funny, and want to get entangled in a game of words. I did a double moral irony of the British (Diego Garcia).
    If I want to return the Malvinas to Argentina. Respecting autonomy to the Islanders (like Argentine provinces) and dual citizenship. A privilege for them Argentine-British, typical new dance: the tango. A new large country with many natural beauties. A compatriot idol Diego Maradona.

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “A compatriot idol Diego Maradona.”

    It'll be a cold day in hell before any Falkland Islander idolises that fat, cheating, drug addled scumbag.

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    It's not a game of words Ant. Either you support the Chagossians right to self determination and therefore you support the Falkland Islanders' right to choose their destiny, or you don't. Which is it Ant, can you not answer the question? Is it too difficult for you? Either the Chagossians and the Falklanders both have those rights, or they both don't. Which is it Ant? Answer the question.

    And why does Argentina need to be involved at all? I really can't see why it's an advantage. Tax revenue for the Falklands currently accrues to Stanley. If the Falklands were just another Argentine province, then tax revenues would accrue to BsAs, no? What is the advantage in that? Why have BsAs make decisions about Falkland tax when the Falklanders can decide themselves (as they do now). And what is the advantage in dual citizenship? The Falklanders can travel anywhere an Argentine can at the moment, so dual citizenship would make zero difference.

    You're not exactly making compelling arguments Ant.

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Ant,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, like all ants you live in colonies,
    just cant get away from them ???????????

    Dec 15th, 2010 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    JA Roberts, no comparison, “Malvinas are Argentine territory. 1833 British drove Argentine Governor.

    The native inhabitants of the island Diego Garcia, the British expelled them. Islanders ”Malvinas” no go, is Argentina's sovereignty.

    I do not care that my argument will not serve you, is your problem. for me is important.

    You and your buddies commentators  Mercopress think like Horatio Kitchener. (British idol ”?).

    ”A lot of fog and cold in London? makes men gray and sad. Out to sunbathe, visit Argentina good sun and good wine.

    Merco Press is not a good tourist travel agent.

    We have a London sun http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_ 28Argentina% 29%
    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_

    bitter

    Dec 16th, 2010 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Erm, I don't think “Malvinas are Argentine territory”. They never have been. Not in 1810, not in 1816, not in 1833 and not now. You are entitled to believe that Ant, it is your opinion and you have a right to an opinion, but the facts tell something different.

    Anyway, the history is interesting but ultimately irrelevant, because it all boils down to one thing: Self determination.

    I was not trying to make a comparison between the Falkland and the Chagos history. I did however ask you a question, which you have AGAIN failed to answer. I will ask the question again.

    If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?

    Dec 16th, 2010 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    J.A. Roberts, Ant I think your lot, blah, blah, blah .... and do not see reality,
    His possession of the islands is colonialism: warplanes, ships, missiles, nuclear submarines (violation of the Treaty of Tlatelolco). Always paranoid. the island never quiet for its politics.
    Argentina no weapon, no military budget, Argentina Pacifist.
    Argentina's sovereignty in peace Falklands.
    Answer: “Malvinas” Argentine territory usurped by England.
    Form Argentine Government: Democratic, Representative and Federal.
    Argentina Constitution, does not allow groups of people self-determination.
    The Argentine people have rights and guarantees as well as all free peoples.
    When the “Malvinas” our flag flapping islanders who want to make.
    Anyone who wants to stay, stay, and he who wants to go to England to be
    (”I hope they get it?). When this happens your opinion or mine not count, will be whistling in the wind

    I went back to get well page Argentina's London, I think they are very bitter and they need sun

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_ (Argentina)

    has! Estimated 12 WestisBest (#), I see Maradona to admire in receipt:

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_

    I hope you understand me Mr. Roberts, my English is not good.

    Dec 16th, 2010 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Just a few errors of fact:

    1. The Falklands are not and have never been Argentine territory.
    2. Since the Falklands are not Argentine territory the Argentine constitution has absolutely no relevance.
    3. The Falkland Islanders have the right to self determination under international law. Whatever the history, self determination is the only thing which matters.

    Oh and Argentina pacifist? One answer to that: 1982. And you might not have a budget now, but you invaded then. Then there were only 20 British marines to defend the Falklands, but now there's a garrison to make sure Argentina does not try a stupid stunt like that again.

    You need to start joining up the dots Ant. And yes, I do understand you, but you don't seem to understand me, because for the third time you have avoided my question.

    I'll ask it one last time:

    If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?

    Dec 16th, 2010 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    he cannot answer you, as he know you are correct, and he is wrong .

    Dec 16th, 2010 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    Dear J.A. Roberts and fellow Briton rogue.
    Do not escape response. I do not live in Merco Press. I have a lifetime of relationships with people and whenever I can “mojo la chaucha”, I recommend it as well as sunbathing, improves mood.
    I hope you now understand:
    If self-determination for the people from the island of Diego Garcia.
    Not for the inhabitants of “Malvinas” were introduced by the British.
    If all rights and guarantees for inhabitants of the Malvinas as Argentine citizens and / or British.
    Is Argentina Pacifist? YES!. Do not confuse the Belicoso and Galtieri Drunk with the Argentinean people.
    The German people is not Nazi, Hitler himself. Do you get the analogy?
    But these comments were started by the cynicism of the British governments have very dirty hands in the history of Argentina and Latin America. They are very cynical now believe Gandi.
    Otherwise the Ant will do everything in their power to be Argentina Falklands. If a grain of sand in the desert, but it adds up.
    Finally do not believe in the existence of the Argentine people?, all state constitutions are relevant.
    Greetings

    Dec 17th, 2010 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Blah Blah Blah Ant, the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is contested between Britain and Argentina, we, the Falkland Islanders wish to keep British Sovereignty, until such time as you can get Britian & us to change our position your constitution and domestic laws mean damn all to us.

    We give you the finger, if you don't like it we'll see you in court.

    Dec 17th, 2010 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ant

    WestisBest, sorry to bother you my blah, blah, blah.
    I share your view that “Malvinas”, is a sovereignty dispute Argentine-British.
    You are not so foolish as Roberts. When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.

    Dec 17th, 2010 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Little insect, there is no dispute. The Falkland islands are British .... no dispute!

    You need to learn more history amongst other things :-)

    Still, well done ... check out the next rubber tree plant :-)

    Dec 17th, 2010 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Well...there is a dispute redhoyt, Argentina dispute Britains sovereignty, they're not going to get anywhere of course but because of that sovereignty is disputed.

    @22
    “When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.”

    Very touching ant but we are British people so will never be compatriots of yours. It's a shame you can't just accept that so that then we could get along as neighbours. When Argentina does eventually accept us for who we are and renounce their claim, great, until that happens, it's the finger.

    Dec 17th, 2010 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Difficult to read some of the pro Argentine comments because their English is so poor. Fact is that the Falklands Islands are British and no amount of furious tapping out on a computer keyboard is going to change that. In fact quite the reverse, how could we possibly hand over our kith and kin to a people who are so aggressive, thin skinned and completely alien to our own culture. The economic silly stuff is annoying but acceptable. The UK doesn't want war but if we are attacked then we must and will respond with all means at our disposal.

    Dec 18th, 2010 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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