The 98th anniversary of the Battle of the Falkland Islands or Battle Day was commemorated at the Cenotaph in the heart of London last Saturday under dull skies, but in good spirits, and with a good turnout. Read full article
The 1982 Falklands War obviously wasn't one of your glories Ant, however it definitely was an Argentine despicable. And a little more recent than 1845 (just like the Conquista del Desierto, another one of your despicables).
J.A. Roberts (#). Despicable English invaded us. No despicable the English people. 1982 Falklands war, a battle, as in 1845, British home.
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Let us review some of UK's despicables:
#1763: possible intentional use of disease as a biological weapon, which was first posited by British forces under the command of Jeffery Amherst
#1828-1832: The Black War at Van Diemen's Land, Tasmania
#1639-1651: Ireland, The War of the Three Kingdoms
#1845-1850: Ireland, The Great Irish Famine
Let us review some of Argentinas more up to date “despicables
The parrilla was used in a number of countries in South America, including Argentina during the dirty war in the 1970s
The Fifth Brigade, then consisting of the 19th, 20th and 29th Mountain Infantry Regiments[53] and commanded by Brigadier-General Acdel Vilas received the order to move to Famailla in the foothills of the Monteros mountains on 8 February 1975. While fighting the guerrillas in the jungle, Vilas concentrated on uprooting the ERP support network in the towns, using state terror tactics later adopted nation-wide
The school was recently handed over to a human rights group. They are in the process of turning it into a museum so that no one will forget what occurred in Argentina 30 years ago.
According to the testimony of Adolfo Scilingo, convicted by a Spanish court of crimes against humanity under the doctrine of universal jurisdiction in 2005, there were 180-200 death flights in the years 1977 and 1978; Scilingo confessed to participating in two such flights, with 13 and 17 people killed respectively
More recent despicable from the Pirates
Boer War, year 1900: British invented the concentration camp (not the Nazis) Horatio Kitchener, 20 000 women, children and men Boers, all of them civilians, died of starvation and poor treatment from 1900 to the end of the war in 1902.
World War II: Betrayal English, anti-Russian Cossacks were delivered to Stalin. The British handed over to Tito Slavs thousands of non-communists.
Diego Garcia Island in 1966, the British forcibly expelled the entire native population, some 1,800 people (What? and self-determination)
His back very dirty
But tellingly, he berates us for what we did to the Chagossians (the people who lived on the Chagos Islands, of which Diego Garcia is just one). Which is very ironic, because he would have us do to the Falkland Islanders exactly what we did to the Chagossians.
Ant, if you think we should hand over the Falklands to Argentina and ignore the right to self determination of the Falkland Islanders, then by default you agree with the treatment of the Chagossians. Or visa versa. Which one is it Ant, or is that going to cause an explosion in your head because you can't cope with the logic?
10 J.A. Roberts (#). You're very funny, and want to get entangled in a game of words. I did a double moral irony of the British (Diego Garcia).
If I want to return the Malvinas to Argentina. Respecting autonomy to the Islanders (like Argentine provinces) and dual citizenship. A privilege for them Argentine-British, typical new dance: the tango. A new large country with many natural beauties. A compatriot idol Diego Maradona.
It's not a game of words Ant. Either you support the Chagossians right to self determination and therefore you support the Falkland Islanders' right to choose their destiny, or you don't. Which is it Ant, can you not answer the question? Is it too difficult for you? Either the Chagossians and the Falklanders both have those rights, or they both don't. Which is it Ant? Answer the question.
And why does Argentina need to be involved at all? I really can't see why it's an advantage. Tax revenue for the Falklands currently accrues to Stanley. If the Falklands were just another Argentine province, then tax revenues would accrue to BsAs, no? What is the advantage in that? Why have BsAs make decisions about Falkland tax when the Falklanders can decide themselves (as they do now). And what is the advantage in dual citizenship? The Falklanders can travel anywhere an Argentine can at the moment, so dual citizenship would make zero difference.
You're not exactly making compelling arguments Ant.
Erm, I don't think Malvinas are Argentine territory. They never have been. Not in 1810, not in 1816, not in 1833 and not now. You are entitled to believe that Ant, it is your opinion and you have a right to an opinion, but the facts tell something different.
Anyway, the history is interesting but ultimately irrelevant, because it all boils down to one thing: Self determination.
I was not trying to make a comparison between the Falkland and the Chagos history. I did however ask you a question, which you have AGAIN failed to answer. I will ask the question again.
If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?
J.A. Roberts, Ant I think your lot, blah, blah, blah .... and do not see reality,
His possession of the islands is colonialism: warplanes, ships, missiles, nuclear submarines (violation of the Treaty of Tlatelolco). Always paranoid. the island never quiet for its politics.
Argentina no weapon, no military budget, Argentina Pacifist.
Argentina's sovereignty in peace Falklands.
Answer: Malvinas Argentine territory usurped by England.
Form Argentine Government: Democratic, Representative and Federal.
Argentina Constitution, does not allow groups of people self-determination.
The Argentine people have rights and guarantees as well as all free peoples.
When the Malvinas our flag flapping islanders who want to make.
Anyone who wants to stay, stay, and he who wants to go to England to be
(”I hope they get it?). When this happens your opinion or mine not count, will be whistling in the wind
I went back to get well page Argentina's London, I think they are very bitter and they need sun
1. The Falklands are not and have never been Argentine territory.
2. Since the Falklands are not Argentine territory the Argentine constitution has absolutely no relevance.
3. The Falkland Islanders have the right to self determination under international law. Whatever the history, self determination is the only thing which matters.
Oh and Argentina pacifist? One answer to that: 1982. And you might not have a budget now, but you invaded then. Then there were only 20 British marines to defend the Falklands, but now there's a garrison to make sure Argentina does not try a stupid stunt like that again.
You need to start joining up the dots Ant. And yes, I do understand you, but you don't seem to understand me, because for the third time you have avoided my question.
I'll ask it one last time:
If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?
Dear J.A. Roberts and fellow Briton rogue.
Do not escape response. I do not live in Merco Press. I have a lifetime of relationships with people and whenever I can mojo la chaucha, I recommend it as well as sunbathing, improves mood.
I hope you now understand:
If self-determination for the people from the island of Diego Garcia.
Not for the inhabitants of Malvinas were introduced by the British.
If all rights and guarantees for inhabitants of the Malvinas as Argentine citizens and / or British.
Is Argentina Pacifist? YES!. Do not confuse the Belicoso and Galtieri Drunk with the Argentinean people.
The German people is not Nazi, Hitler himself. Do you get the analogy?
But these comments were started by the cynicism of the British governments have very dirty hands in the history of Argentina and Latin America. They are very cynical now believe Gandi.
Otherwise the Ant will do everything in their power to be Argentina Falklands. If a grain of sand in the desert, but it adds up.
Finally do not believe in the existence of the Argentine people?, all state constitutions are relevant.
Greetings
Blah Blah Blah Ant, the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is contested between Britain and Argentina, we, the Falkland Islanders wish to keep British Sovereignty, until such time as you can get Britian & us to change our position your constitution and domestic laws mean damn all to us.
We give you the finger, if you don't like it we'll see you in court.
WestisBest, sorry to bother you my blah, blah, blah.
I share your view that Malvinas, is a sovereignty dispute Argentine-British.
You are not so foolish as Roberts. When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.
Well...there is a dispute redhoyt, Argentina dispute Britains sovereignty, they're not going to get anywhere of course but because of that sovereignty is disputed.
@22
When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.
Very touching ant but we are British people so will never be compatriots of yours. It's a shame you can't just accept that so that then we could get along as neighbours. When Argentina does eventually accept us for who we are and renounce their claim, great, until that happens, it's the finger.
Difficult to read some of the pro Argentine comments because their English is so poor. Fact is that the Falklands Islands are British and no amount of furious tapping out on a computer keyboard is going to change that. In fact quite the reverse, how could we possibly hand over our kith and kin to a people who are so aggressive, thin skinned and completely alien to our own culture. The economic silly stuff is annoying but acceptable. The UK doesn't want war but if we are attacked then we must and will respond with all means at our disposal.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe British always Rember, and never forgets .
Dec 13th, 2010 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British, the Argentines also have our glories and remember and not forget the English despicable.
Dec 14th, 2010 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lagazeta.com.ar/obligado.htm
http://www.lagazeta.com.ar/obligado.htm
As in 1845, the British will leave the Malvinas.
The 1982 Falklands War obviously wasn't one of your glories Ant, however it definitely was an Argentine despicable. And a little more recent than 1845 (just like the Conquista del Desierto, another one of your despicables).
Dec 14th, 2010 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.A. Roberts (#). Despicable English invaded us. No despicable the English people. 1982 Falklands war, a battle, as in 1845, British home.
Dec 14th, 2010 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read Story Patagonian English landowners mercenaries paid to Indian ears
Ant dont be modest,you forgot the Argentine Glorious Dirty war
Dec 14th, 2010 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3673470/Argentinas-dirty-war-the-museum-of-horrors.html
Let us review some of UK's despicables:
Dec 14th, 2010 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1763: possible intentional use of disease as a biological weapon, which was first posited by British forces under the command of Jeffery Amherst
#1828-1832: The Black War at Van Diemen's Land, Tasmania
#1639-1651: Ireland, The War of the Three Kingdoms
#1845-1850: Ireland, The Great Irish Famine
Let us review some of Argentinas more up to date “despicables
Dec 14th, 2010 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The parrilla was used in a number of countries in South America, including Argentina during the dirty war in the 1970s
The Fifth Brigade, then consisting of the 19th, 20th and 29th Mountain Infantry Regiments[53] and commanded by Brigadier-General Acdel Vilas received the order to move to Famailla in the foothills of the Monteros mountains on 8 February 1975. While fighting the guerrillas in the jungle, Vilas concentrated on uprooting the ERP support network in the towns, using state terror tactics later adopted nation-wide
The school was recently handed over to a human rights group. They are in the process of turning it into a museum so that no one will forget what occurred in Argentina 30 years ago.
According to the testimony of Adolfo Scilingo, convicted by a Spanish court of crimes against humanity under the doctrine of universal jurisdiction in 2005, there were 180-200 death flights in the years 1977 and 1978; Scilingo confessed to participating in two such flights, with 13 and 17 people killed respectively
Oh, that's amusing. The most recent British despicable Ant or Yaghan can come up with is 1850 - and it's got nothing to do with South America.
Dec 15th, 2010 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0You guys really need to try harder.
Here's another Argie despicable. The Napalpí Massacre of 1924.
More recent despicable from the Pirates
Dec 15th, 2010 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Boer War, year 1900: British invented the concentration camp (not the Nazis) Horatio Kitchener, 20 000 women, children and men Boers, all of them civilians, died of starvation and poor treatment from 1900 to the end of the war in 1902.
World War II: Betrayal English, anti-Russian Cossacks were delivered to Stalin. The British handed over to Tito Slavs thousands of non-communists.
Diego Garcia Island in 1966, the British forcibly expelled the entire native population, some 1,800 people (What? and self-determination)
His back very dirty
More history from Ant.
Dec 15th, 2010 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But tellingly, he berates us for what we did to the Chagossians (the people who lived on the Chagos Islands, of which Diego Garcia is just one). Which is very ironic, because he would have us do to the Falkland Islanders exactly what we did to the Chagossians.
Ant, if you think we should hand over the Falklands to Argentina and ignore the right to self determination of the Falkland Islanders, then by default you agree with the treatment of the Chagossians. Or visa versa. Which one is it Ant, or is that going to cause an explosion in your head because you can't cope with the logic?
10 J.A. Roberts (#). You're very funny, and want to get entangled in a game of words. I did a double moral irony of the British (Diego Garcia).
Dec 15th, 2010 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I want to return the Malvinas to Argentina. Respecting autonomy to the Islanders (like Argentine provinces) and dual citizenship. A privilege for them Argentine-British, typical new dance: the tango. A new large country with many natural beauties. A compatriot idol Diego Maradona.
A compatriot idol Diego Maradona.
Dec 15th, 2010 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It'll be a cold day in hell before any Falkland Islander idolises that fat, cheating, drug addled scumbag.
It's not a game of words Ant. Either you support the Chagossians right to self determination and therefore you support the Falkland Islanders' right to choose their destiny, or you don't. Which is it Ant, can you not answer the question? Is it too difficult for you? Either the Chagossians and the Falklanders both have those rights, or they both don't. Which is it Ant? Answer the question.
Dec 15th, 2010 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And why does Argentina need to be involved at all? I really can't see why it's an advantage. Tax revenue for the Falklands currently accrues to Stanley. If the Falklands were just another Argentine province, then tax revenues would accrue to BsAs, no? What is the advantage in that? Why have BsAs make decisions about Falkland tax when the Falklanders can decide themselves (as they do now). And what is the advantage in dual citizenship? The Falklanders can travel anywhere an Argentine can at the moment, so dual citizenship would make zero difference.
You're not exactly making compelling arguments Ant.
Ant,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, like all ants you live in colonies,
Dec 15th, 2010 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just cant get away from them ???????????
JA Roberts, no comparison, Malvinas are Argentine territory. 1833 British drove Argentine Governor.
Dec 16th, 2010 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The native inhabitants of the island Diego Garcia, the British expelled them. Islanders Malvinas” no go, is Argentina's sovereignty.
I do not care that my argument will not serve you, is your problem. for me is important.
You and your buddies commentators Mercopress think like Horatio Kitchener. (British idol ”?).
”A lot of fog and cold in London? makes men gray and sad. Out to sunbathe, visit Argentina good sun and good wine.
Merco Press is not a good tourist travel agent.
We have a London sun http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_ 28Argentina% 29%
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_
bitter
Erm, I don't think Malvinas are Argentine territory. They never have been. Not in 1810, not in 1816, not in 1833 and not now. You are entitled to believe that Ant, it is your opinion and you have a right to an opinion, but the facts tell something different.
Dec 16th, 2010 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, the history is interesting but ultimately irrelevant, because it all boils down to one thing: Self determination.
I was not trying to make a comparison between the Falkland and the Chagos history. I did however ask you a question, which you have AGAIN failed to answer. I will ask the question again.
If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?
J.A. Roberts, Ant I think your lot, blah, blah, blah .... and do not see reality,
Dec 16th, 2010 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His possession of the islands is colonialism: warplanes, ships, missiles, nuclear submarines (violation of the Treaty of Tlatelolco). Always paranoid. the island never quiet for its politics.
Argentina no weapon, no military budget, Argentina Pacifist.
Argentina's sovereignty in peace Falklands.
Answer: Malvinas Argentine territory usurped by England.
Form Argentine Government: Democratic, Representative and Federal.
Argentina Constitution, does not allow groups of people self-determination.
The Argentine people have rights and guarantees as well as all free peoples.
When the Malvinas our flag flapping islanders who want to make.
Anyone who wants to stay, stay, and he who wants to go to England to be
(”I hope they get it?). When this happens your opinion or mine not count, will be whistling in the wind
I went back to get well page Argentina's London, I think they are very bitter and they need sun
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_ (Argentina)
has! Estimated 12 WestisBest (#), I see Maradona to admire in receipt:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londres_
I hope you understand me Mr. Roberts, my English is not good.
Just a few errors of fact:
Dec 16th, 2010 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. The Falklands are not and have never been Argentine territory.
2. Since the Falklands are not Argentine territory the Argentine constitution has absolutely no relevance.
3. The Falkland Islanders have the right to self determination under international law. Whatever the history, self determination is the only thing which matters.
Oh and Argentina pacifist? One answer to that: 1982. And you might not have a budget now, but you invaded then. Then there were only 20 British marines to defend the Falklands, but now there's a garrison to make sure Argentina does not try a stupid stunt like that again.
You need to start joining up the dots Ant. And yes, I do understand you, but you don't seem to understand me, because for the third time you have avoided my question.
I'll ask it one last time:
If you support the Chagossians right to self determination then you must logically support the Falkland Islanders' right to self determination. Either you support both Chagossian and Falklander rights to self determination, or you don't. Which is it Ant?
he cannot answer you, as he know you are correct, and he is wrong .
Dec 16th, 2010 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear J.A. Roberts and fellow Briton rogue.
Dec 17th, 2010 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do not escape response. I do not live in Merco Press. I have a lifetime of relationships with people and whenever I can mojo la chaucha, I recommend it as well as sunbathing, improves mood.
I hope you now understand:
If self-determination for the people from the island of Diego Garcia.
Not for the inhabitants of Malvinas were introduced by the British.
If all rights and guarantees for inhabitants of the Malvinas as Argentine citizens and / or British.
Is Argentina Pacifist? YES!. Do not confuse the Belicoso and Galtieri Drunk with the Argentinean people.
The German people is not Nazi, Hitler himself. Do you get the analogy?
But these comments were started by the cynicism of the British governments have very dirty hands in the history of Argentina and Latin America. They are very cynical now believe Gandi.
Otherwise the Ant will do everything in their power to be Argentina Falklands. If a grain of sand in the desert, but it adds up.
Finally do not believe in the existence of the Argentine people?, all state constitutions are relevant.
Greetings
Blah Blah Blah Ant, the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is contested between Britain and Argentina, we, the Falkland Islanders wish to keep British Sovereignty, until such time as you can get Britian & us to change our position your constitution and domestic laws mean damn all to us.
Dec 17th, 2010 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We give you the finger, if you don't like it we'll see you in court.
WestisBest, sorry to bother you my blah, blah, blah.
Dec 17th, 2010 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I share your view that Malvinas, is a sovereignty dispute Argentine-British.
You are not so foolish as Roberts. When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.
Little insect, there is no dispute. The Falkland islands are British .... no dispute!
Dec 17th, 2010 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to learn more history amongst other things :-)
Still, well done ... check out the next rubber tree plant :-)
Well...there is a dispute redhoyt, Argentina dispute Britains sovereignty, they're not going to get anywhere of course but because of that sovereignty is disputed.
Dec 17th, 2010 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
When Malvinas sovereignty back to Argentina and you'll agree, is an honor to have you as a compatriot.
Very touching ant but we are British people so will never be compatriots of yours. It's a shame you can't just accept that so that then we could get along as neighbours. When Argentina does eventually accept us for who we are and renounce their claim, great, until that happens, it's the finger.
Difficult to read some of the pro Argentine comments because their English is so poor. Fact is that the Falklands Islands are British and no amount of furious tapping out on a computer keyboard is going to change that. In fact quite the reverse, how could we possibly hand over our kith and kin to a people who are so aggressive, thin skinned and completely alien to our own culture. The economic silly stuff is annoying but acceptable. The UK doesn't want war but if we are attacked then we must and will respond with all means at our disposal.
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