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High Court ruling favours 9.500 former conscripts Malvinas war veterans

Tuesday, December 21st 2010 - 05:19 UTC
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A ruling from Argentina’s Supreme Court admitted “Malvinas war veteran condition” to a petty officer who was deployed in Puerto Belgrano and Rio Grande during the 1982 conflict thus enabling him to a veteran’s pension. Read full article

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  • Redhoyt

    “ ... this would represent an additional 30 million US dollars per annum to the Treasury...”

    Everyone tells me how well Argentina is doing these days, so this should be just a drop in the ocean :-)

    “ ... During the 1982 conflict with Britain 17 Argentine combatants were killed at Patagonian coast bases and proclaimed as “national heroes”....”

    I didn't know our bullets went that far ... well, you live and learn !

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    This would mean one less diamond ring for Mrs. Cristina de Kirchner:(

    ”The ruling is considered a lead case for the 9.500 former Argentine conscripts that during the 1982 conflict were deployed along the Argentine continental coast south of parallel 42, from Trelew to Ushuaia. Furthermore it could influence the demands of veterans that are camped in Buenos Aires Plaza de Mayo next to Casa Rosada (Government House) since 2008 claiming their pensions.” Best of luck to you guys!

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    proclaimed as “national heroes”....”

    In stanley when the first shot was fired,in BA when the second was fired

    The rest only put up a token fight cos they were on a island and couldnt run home
    LOL

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    The British 3rd Commando Brigade commander, Brigadier Julian Thompson was reported as having said:

    “I was on the point of withdrawing my Paras from Mount Longdon. We couldn't believe that these teenagers disguised as soldiers were causing us to suffer many casualties.”

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    #4 where does that come from?

    3 Para were commanded by Lt Col Huw Pike for information.

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Julian Thompson was a Royal Marine officer who was in overall charge of British Ground Forces at the start of the Falklands Campaign. I couldn't say whether the quote is accurate.

    Mount Longdon was an Argentine hardpoint which they fought particularly hard to hold onto. The fighting was particularly fierce and the outcome of the battle was by no means a forgone conclusion. The Argentines held the high ground and british forces were exposed for part of their advanceon the Argentine positions.

    At the end of the battle 19 British personnel were dead with about 30 Argentines dead and about 50 captured. British forces would have suffered much higher losses if the minefield they had marched through to get to the battlefield had not been ineffective in the low temperatures but fortunately many paratroopers were protected by the hand of God on that day.

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Correction land forces were under the command of Major General Jeremy Moore. Brigadier Thompson commanded 3 Commando Brigade.

    The mistake on Longdon was a quiet attack without the pre-bombardment that accompanied subsequent attacks. I didn't say it wasn't a hard battle, indeed it was, I asked where the quote came from.

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    paratroopers were protected by the hand of God on that day.

    and the Argie officers

    Sub-Lieutenant Juan Domingo Baldini is accused of having staked several conscripts for having abandoned their posts to go looking for food, an act punishable by death in other armies. “Our own officers were our greatest enemies,” says Ernesto Alonso, the president of CECIM, a left-wing veterans group founded by Rodolfo Carrizo and Communist Party-affiliated former conscripts of the 7th Regiment. “They supplied themselves with whiskey from the pubs, but they weren’t prepared for war. They disappeared when things got serious.”

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    About your question
    My answer: look it up yourself.

    Did you hear about this report today...all over the news...still alive?
    You were wrong...told you so!

    Report: Release of Pan Am bomber not medically justified

    “The report also took issue with the Scottish government's decision to grant al Megrahi compassionate release, indicating the process was determined by general practitioners without expertise in prostate cancer who were ”clearly involved in political, inter-governmental discussions.“

    ”In view of the flawed process, we believe that the Scottish government simply intended to use compassionate release as political cover for returning al Megrahi to Libya -- regardless of whether his physical condition met the requirements,“ the report said.
    ”Instead of living three months, he's lived 13 months and counting,“ Menendez said in a September committee hearing on the matter.
    He played a videotape that showed al Megrahi walking up a flight of stairs to board a plane to Libya after his prison release, despite allegedly being near death
    State Department official testified that commercial concerns may have influenced Scottish consideration of al Megrahi's release.
    ”The U.K. knew that in order to maintain trade relations with Libya, it had to give in to political demands,“ the report said.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/21/lockerbie.report/index.html?iref=allsearch

    Dec 21st, 2010 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jimamily

    Help veterans and all those who have served our country so well find jobs today! Please spread the word. Take 2 minutes and click on our page and use the “Suggest to Friends” button on the left to invite all your friends to help veterans find jobs! www.facebook.com/chooseveterans and www.chooseveterans.com

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    9 Marcos Alejandro
    i Hear that Sergio Galvarino Apablaza is in rude health

    http://www.santiagotimes.cl/news/other/19822-debate-continues-over-extradition-case-between-chile-argentina-

    http://www.santiagotimes.cl/news/other/19822-debate-continues-over-extradition-case-between-chile-argentina-

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    #9 I'll take it from that answer you simply made it up. Margot, Walts like you piss me off, you demean and disrespect your own forces with lies like that. 3 Para happily acknowledge the brave defence put up by Argentine forces, using it to score points on a message board is just cheap.

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (4) Marcos Alejandro

    It took me 5 seconds to Google that long, boring, well documented, British written, militaristic article you quote this from:

    ”The British 3rd Commando Brigade commander, Brigadier Julian Thompson was reported as having said:
    “I was on the point of withdrawing my Paras from Mount Longdon. We couldn't believe that these teenagers disguised as soldiers were causing us to suffer many casualties.”

    Saludos

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    #13 Ah right it was wikipedia was it then.

    How difficult would it have been to answer wikipedia and provide a link?

    As opposed to being an arse about a simple question.

    Nothing changes.

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    13 Think, I am glad that you had no problem to find that long, boring, well documented, British written, militaristic article. Some small brain people type with their toes and aren't unable to do so.

    Saludos

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    #15 W M

    Dec 22nd, 2010 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    #16 F Y

    Dec 23rd, 2010 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “It took me 5 seconds to Google that long, boring, well documented, British written, militaristic article you quote this from”

    If you had spend more than five minuites to check your sources you would realise that the quote is in fact, a long, boring, well documented, Argentinian, militaristic article. The quote itself is from:

    Recollections of Argentine veteran Miguel Savage.

    The quote is NOT is Major General Julian Harold Atherdean Thompson book.

    Dec 26th, 2010 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Ohhhhhh…................

    What a tormenting dilemma!

    Who to believe..................?

    Wiki the Pedia? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mount_Longdon

    Or

    Zethee the Warmonger?

    Dec 26th, 2010 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    I seem to remember getting a right old earbashing for using Wiki for facts from...you.

    I have not said that the quote was not said on the day, just that the only real(not wiki, think.) refrence to him saying said quote is in that Argentinian book.

    Perhaps you should provide some refrences to back up what you say? im happy to. You could always go buy the book and have a read for yourself.

    http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Battle_of_Mount_Longdon”
    (Source: recollections of Argentine veteran Miguel Savage)

    http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Battle_of_Mount_Longdon”
    (Source: recollections of Argentine veteran Miguel Savage)

    Got to love discussing the falklands war, with an Argentinian, while he calls me a Warmonger. Oh the irony.

    Sour grapes much?

    Dec 26th, 2010 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Zethee… you are a total turnip and I don’t wish to waste my time with you……..

    The two links you provide are just outdated copies from OLD versions of Wikipedia’s Mount Longdon article that has long since been edited, complemented and corrected by a host of dedicated contributors.

    I have never criticized anyone for using or referring to Wikipedia.

    I have repeatedly expressed in here my respect for Wikipedia and it’s information.

    Dec 26th, 2010 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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