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Argentine president promises to keep pushing ‘permanently’ for Malvinas

Wednesday, March 2nd 2011 - 07:14 UTC
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Argentina’s claim of the Malvinas Islands only had a brief specific mention in President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner Tuesday address to Congress where she outlined the achievements of her administration and plans for the remaining nine months of her four year mandate. Read full article

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  • Martin_Fierro

    Hardly enough material to base this article on the issue of sovereignty, don't you think?

    Quite disappointing

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    “ .. permanently ...”, hmm, has a nice ring to it :-)

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    She can push all she wants but immovable objects can't be shifted.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    She is deluded, like all malvinistas.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljb

    I guess there are no other problems in Argentina to deal with, if this is her focus.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    She should look at her own map.....its the Falkland Islands ,its British,has been British for over 150 yrs and will be British . Because of the Argentine governments childish politics (and politicians) ,the British government have to station more firepower in the Falklands than is available anywhere else in Latin america to stop Argentina invading again. Nice neighbours !

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Am I seeing a trend here? The meeting between Cristina and the new Brazilian President resulted in an agreement with included a paragraph on the Falklands but it was not heralded. recent comments by the Foreign minister to the UN have been quite low key for Argentina and now this. Pressure from Brazil? Or something else?

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    I don't know what's more boring... this article or your obsession with it Argentina.

    If we are “malvinistas” then what do all these comments make you? Obsessive anti-Argentines? You're the only ones commenting on this crap.

    I bet She didn't even mention Malvinas in that speech, Mercopress probably made it all up.

    Like the photo on the article on Punta Arenas and Torres del Paine they just posted... “Can you see any cruise vessels in Punta Arenas?” it's a photo from 2008 dumbass and it there just happened to be no ships docked when the photo was taken.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/28/discouraging-tourist-season-for-punta-arenas-and-torres-del-paine

    Cheap journalism

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    #8 Photos are used for illustrative purposes only, they do not represent the facts of events or news in the article.

    As for mecropress making this all up - well that would be illegal, so no its not made up, for you to accuse them off such is itself libel on your part.

    Also, mercopress posts ariticles that are negative news for the falklands just as it does for argentina and all latin american countries. Argentina is a bigger country than the falklands, so argentina has more things going on that are reported in the news as a result. Its not rocket science.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Denrich

    Big headline without much of a story.

    Should have been headed “Cristina blows own trumpet”.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Unasur can do nothing officially until it becomes legally able to do so (11 March). What it has done to date is not legal/binding - hence the necessary recourse to The Hague.

    But it is good to know that Kirchner was responsible for the release of hostages in Colombia. I was not aware of this, but if she says it, it must be so ;-)
    However, she said she would solve the 'Malvenas Issue' during her first term of office. Her time is running out - perhaps this is why she now says that the Argentinian President will be 'constructing permanently on this case'.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Mrs Kirchner underlined the significance of keeping a low key on the Falklands, with a grin like that you wonder why.
    She has less and less chance of getting nothing,
    her support is waning so fast, they overtake her speeches, as a mater of fact, the only Argentineans that support her over the islands are a few bloggers on here, and even then they cannot agree how to support her ???? Get ready for half hearted desperations of support for her , trying to defend a hopeless position

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    Today per today, if the elections were this Sunday in Argentina, Cristina would win for 45% in first turn, and the second Macri or Alfonsin I/you/he/she would hardly arrive to 15% .esta tendency you/he/she increases with the time.

    The conflict of Malvinas doesn't belong only a question to her, it is but, it transcends to the shift rulers in the Argentinean.
    She has been able to sow conscience at World level of the conflict. All Latin America supports the reclamos, as much the Unasur as the MERCOSUR.
    As the world public opinion you interioriza but of the conflict of Malvinas, many countries come with sympathy the I claim of sovereignty. And even in the own United Kingdom they believe that it is possible to reach an acceptable agreement for both parts. Alone vast to see daily and web specialized in the topic.
    The main error of many is to underestimate Cristina's leadership, for its woman condition, in Argentina and Latin America when it possesses a considerable consent to its favor.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “And even in the own United Kingdom they believe that it is possible to reach an acceptable agreement for both parts. ”

    In the United Kingdom we believe there will be no such thing untill a time as where the islanders wish an agreement, if ever.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Should have been headed “Cristina blows own trumpet” using bowl generated gas. Can i have the pleasure of placing the trumpet !

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    What we can see “permanently” is the use of Mercopress of “no-news” transformed in “pushing” titles.
    With a copy of her speech on my desk (and being in the opposition) I`m still surprised with Mercopress creativity...and “permanently construction” of its lack of credibility on this issue.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    MercoPress provides the fodder the British sheep prefer...............

    No more no less...........

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    @ think ... I didn't see you posting anything on the “ Juicio a los miembros de la Junta” forum, I was hopping to have a debate with you, old friend. Viva la Patria Carajo !!

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    TWIMC

    There will shortly be a presidential election in Argentina.

    Looking into my crystal ball I predict the following:

    1. A lot rhetoric coming from the Casa Rosada about the Falklands.
    2. El Thicko will stalk anyone who betters him, whilst bravely hiding behind an anonymous pseudonym
    3. A lot of Malvinistas from the El Malvinense stable will froth at the mouth and plaster irrelevant and incoherent crap all over Mercopress.

    Sorry but I don't do the lottery numbers.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (18) Sr. Menendez

    I don’t post on Internet about that topic.
    I only debate it with close friends.
    Dead or alive.
    Most dead…………….

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    It's actually the same message of everyeyar, but we all know that we wont see any solution, as long as the the islanders and the u.k. insist on their usuall intransigence and victimization, i know it's pathetic, but like us or not, it's the reality.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    I don't insist on being victimised. In fact, I'd much rather you didn't.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    @Think.... Sr Think (since I don't know your last name) I respect your decision on the matter and it will be a pleasure to talk to you again

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    Think @17:

    Propaganda is, after Goebbels, not exclusive of CFK and “The Dog”- boys.
    Islanders ´ve already learned its use.

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    (17) Think -

    “No More, No Less, Mercopress”

    That has a bit of a ring to it. Perhaps you should seek out a career in marketing and branding?

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    19 Kuntz, “Sorry but I don't do the lottery numbers” nor you can say the truth about anything.
    Did the terrorist Abdelbaset al-Megrahi die already?

    Mar 02nd, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Megrahi has been in a coma since the 9 Dec, that was the last report in the press.

    You've obviously missed the results of the enquiry, which cleared the Scottish Government of any wrongdoing and confirmed they acted on the basis of medical advice on compassionate grounds.

    The Labour Government of Gordon Brown on the other hand, were found to be a bunch of two faced hypocrites.

    If you go back Marcos, you will find I have consistently from the outset pointed out the Scottish Government made the decision on compassionate grounds, something confirmed by the enquiry.

    I don't expect you will have the moral compass to apologise for making false statements, its something I've come to expect from the Argentines who post on Mercopress.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Talking of commitment -

    “ ... The most generous per capita aid is reserved for the Overseas Territories, a collection of former colonies, mostly small islands such as the Falklands and Virgin Islands. They have a combined population thought to be less than 260,000, and will receive an average of more than £80m a year in aid....”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/progress-on-reform-made-a-condition-of-aid-increase-2230543.html

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    9 Teaboy2,

    That's the answer I wanted.

    Look down below and to your right. © Copyright 1997 - 2011, MercoPress.

    You will find the same Copyright on the original photo, www.flickr.com/photos/80651083@N00/2197842385/

    It's called an infringement of intellectual property which of course means nothing to you. And my point is, Mercopress makes little to no effort to provide any factual evidence of the events in their articles.

    This particular article we're commenting on was made out of thin air.

    And you're still boring... obsessive anti-Argentines ;-)

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Kuntz,
    Megrahi was released from prison on “compassionate” grounds in August 2009 after doctors said he had just three months to live. He is still alive and living in Tripoli, in March 2011!

    Andrew Bridgen, the Conservative party’s spokesman on Lockerbie, said: “The more that we learn about Megrahi’s release, the murkier this whole affair becomes.”
    A Foreign Office spokesman said: “The Government is clear that Megrahi’s release was a mistake and the decision to release Megrahi was solely made by the Scottish Executive.”
    No matter how they try to spin it boils down to one thing. A British company gets the oil deal they get Megrahi. Regardless of how much chaff they throw up that is what it's all about.
    The only question is who got their bank account embellished as a result?
    Am I the one who needs to apologise? I just found your comment:

    83 JustinKuntz (#)
    Sep 16th, 2010 - 07:31 pm
    “The decision to release al-Megrahi was a brave one, the man taking the decision knew full well he would take a heap of crap from the Americans and the British Government and the press. One of the few examples of a politician with integrity.”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/15/argentine-militants-demand-return-of-falklands-war-booty-docked-in-buenos-aires

    This is the same liar that comments about Malvinas and why he thinks they belong to UK. Hypocrite and liar.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Nice link MoreCrap, I remember it ... how about this one -

    http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1242140

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Push all that you like senora christa, Twill get you no where.
    while you are at it keep up the moaning and whining too. we are used to it and would miss it if you stopped. And after all this, just in case you forgot,the Falklands are ours & never will be Argentine. hope this helps.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    #29 Martin, seriously you think a picture posted on Flicker by a member of the public is copyrighted? Serious leanr copyright laws, becuase unless their is a copyright mark on the picture, then it is not copyright protected and as such it is freely available in the public domain. And even if it were to have a Copyright mark on the picture, which it doesn't, then all mercopress need is permission from the copyright holder to post the picture, which is a private matter between mercopress and the copyright holder, so they do not have to tell us.

    Just because it says © Copyright 1997 - 2011, MercoPress, it means the website and articles owned/created by mercopress are protected along with the website template. Serious look into it more and learn about it before making silly claims. As you may find that the photograpther may actually sell his/her images to news cooperations to use in their articles. So sorry but unless the images themselve are copyrighted then mercopress have not committed an infringement of copyright laws at all.

    If what you were saying was the case, then google would go bust as a result of what you believe to be copyright infrindgement of photos. after all google images shows just about every photo posted on the web copyrighted and non copryrighted.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Marcos

    I'll add capitals in the vain hope that some sliver of comprehension may penetrate your tiny mind.

    The SCOTTISH Government made the decision to release Al-Megrahi on compassionate grounds, the man is and remains seriously ill. Predicting the life expectancy of a cancer patient is not an exact science. They made the decision on the basis of the best information they had. I said then and I say it now, it was a brave decision to make, they would face considerable criticism for it and it would have been all to easy to leave him to die in prison. The SCOTTISH Government derived no benefit from the decision, received a lot of criticism and the recent enquiry confirmed that the SCOTTISH Government made the decision on compassionate grounds and did not behave with anything other than appropriately.

    Now, living in an autocracy that pretends to be a democracy, it may be difficult for you to understand that the SCOTTISH government is independent of the WESTMINSTER government and is not beholden to it. It made the decision for itself.

    I still stand by my comments, I think the SCOTTISH government made a brave and compassionate decision that was the RIGHT thing to do, whilst under intense pressure to do the WRONG thing.

    Now Marcos, you may be a hypocrite and a liar, something you repeatedly demonstrate but don't judge others by your own low standards.

    And Marcos, Megrahi has been in a coma since December. Funny definition of alive and well.

    Any reasonable person would take my comments on face value, I happen to think the SCOTTISH government made a brave decision. The British and American Governments who vocally criticised the SCOTTISH government were the ones making underhand deals with the Libyans. Its the SCOTTISH government's decision I applauded, it was the SCOTTISH government who were cleared by the recent enquiry.

    Is that too difficult for you to understand?

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    Sr Think and Artillero601, count on me for the debate, thank you.

    Face1354@hotmail.com

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    @Raul ... I am looking forward to it !! Gracias Raul y decile al Think que no se borre ....

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Kuntz,
    “I still stand by my comments, I think the SCOTTISH government made a brave and compassionate decision that was the RIGHT thing to do”
    No surprise there, coming from an hypocrite and a liar.

    'We should be ashamed that this has happened'
    Geoffrey Robertson QC
    “Member of the United Nations Justice Council, and first president of the UN war crimes court and the author of Crimes Against Humanity: the Struggle for Global Justice

    It seems to me an utter perversion of the meaning of compassion, both in law and morality, to suggest that an unrepentant, mass murderer of entirely innocent human beings should not be required to end his life in prison. The Lockerbie bombing was a crime against humanity, part of a series of terrorist acts most likely approved by Gaddafi and cold-bloodedly carried out by officials such as al-Megrahi. The requirements of compassion extend only, in international humanitarian law, to providing medical assistance and pain-killing drugs to treat his cancer and allowing family visits. But his crime against humanity was in law unforgiveable – that is why – such crimes have no time limits on prosecution and no provision for early release. The decision to release him for what any person of any intelligence at all would foresee as a hero's welcome in Libya was lacking in compassion to every victim of terrorism and makes an absurdity of the principle of punishment as a deterrent. MacAskill's arguments are both morally and logically fraudulent.”

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Marcos,

    Standing by my comments neither makes me a hypocrite or a liar. Having a different opinion, neither makes me a hypocrite or a liar.

    “The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.”
    Mahatma Ghandi

    Consider this Marcos, feigning moral outrage rather does make you a hypocrite. You have no concern about Megrahi or his victims. This happened in my country, the victims on the ground were Scottish, yet we have the capacity and compassion to forgive, that does not mean we forget.

    You believe and repeat lies about the Falklands, that of itself makes you a liar.

    You have no capacity for compassion, you have an inability to forgive or admit that you were wrong. You feign moral outrage as means to hurl insults at someone you've never met and use that as a pretext to devalue their opinion. That makes you morally and logically fraudulent.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Kuntz,
    “The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.”
    Mahatma Ghandi

    Ghandi will raise out of his tomb if he could read your comment, he defeated the British Empire and their atrocities in India without firing a single shot. He was certainly not talking about the corrupt London and SCOTTISH governments in his quote above, that released a mass murder of innocents civilians, of many nationalities, in order to get OIL DEALS from a murder dictator like Muammar Gaddafi.

    ■Permanent good can never be the outcome of untruth and violence.
    ■A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes.

    Mahatma Ghandi

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Somehow I doubt very much that Ghandi would object in the slightest. Seeing how Ghandi was very much an advocate of forgiveness and reconciliation.

    Again Marcos, the SCOTTISH government derived no benefit and only criticism from its actions, it was cleared of any such wrong doing.

    It was the Westminster and US Governments that benefited from those oil deals, whilst loudly condemning the SCOTTISH government. The same corrupt Libyan Government your Government cosied up to, for nothing more than eliciting sympathetic platitudes from a corrupt despot.

    “A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes.”

    I presume the meaning of the above has clearly passed you by. No matter. Continue to feign moral outrage if you prefer, at some point you may finally comprehend how it makes you look.

    What you think you will become.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    I bet the British Falkland people thank god that they are British and not Argentinian as the news comes in of two Argentine animals Jorge Videla, and Reynaldo Bignone go on trial for the kidnapping of children and the murder of their mothers

    Jorge Videla, who ruled Argentina from 1976 to 1981, and Reynaldo Bignone, the last leader of the military regime from 1982 to 1983, are accused along with six other former military figures.

    About 500 babies were stolen from their mothers during the dictatorship, according to the campaign group Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo.

    Pregnant female political dissidents were interned at secret maternity wards in centres used to torture opponents of the dictatorship.

    The babies were handed to military officers or their relatives after birth while the mothers were simply killed, many of them dropped alive from military planes into the sea.

    Now I know many years have past since they did this unspeakable crime. But lets face it if the Falklands had been Argentinian I wonder how many of today's persons would be now in the sea somewhere and their children living with the animals that killed their mothers?

    Just one more reason why they should remain British and have not one bit of dialog with this evil country.

    And that woman can rant for all she wants when we have right on outside there is nothing they can do but try and take them by force again, and guess what when they try to do that again we will be waiting for them and once again we will give them a bloody nose

    But if you have noticed they have waited until now when these monsters are on their last legs and one foot from the grave to bring them to trial. That says it all of the people from Argentina

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    41 Britishbulldog

    I would like to talk about the Brits, as they are and remain pirates!
    we want the Argentinas's Malvinas Islands back! and you make war and kill innocent people, drugs, murder in Irak, Afganistan, etc, etc, you will have to live always in fear of attacks as in the USA, which are made good! pirates! I resent people like you to talk nonsense and do not look fantastic going on in the uk and the damn colonies!

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Is this the kind of forgiveness and reconciliation that you are talking about?

    ”SCOTTISH Ministers offered to let Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Al Megrahi go home to Libya in return for a secret deal to end payouts to prisoners forced to use 'slop-out' buckets in their cells, documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday revealed last night

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354158/Scottish-Ministers-offered-free-Lockerbie-bomber-secret-deal-end-slop-bucket-payments-prisoners.html#ixzz1FZhUEVhN

    Compulsive Liar Symptoms
    Compulsive liar symptoms are seen in people who lie even if there is no need of it, without giving a second thought to the impact it may have on the future or their relations.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Who is lying Marcos?

    I have expressed an opinion, one I still stand by.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12381612

    First Minister Alex Salmond said of Sir Gus's report: “I think you can take it that the Scottish government is going to feel a bit vindicated from the cabinet secretary's report.

    ”The big news of course is that the cabinet secretary has found that at the Autumn of 2008 the UK government, Labour government, changed its position.

    “And every area of government were attempting to facilitate the release of Mr al-Megrahi's release to go back home to Libya.”

    And again, it was a crime committed in SCOTLAND, the victims on the ground were SCOTTISH, whilst we may have the capacity to forgive it does not mean we forget. In my opinion, it was the correct, the compassionate and the christian thing to do.

    I don't do lies, if you lie, you have to remember the lie as well as the truth. Telling the truth is easier.

    Continue to try and throw dirt around, you're merely making yourself look desperate.

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    And will not Mr daffodil pay for his past errors,
    like most dictators and fools, he slag’s of the British,
    and yet again the British come up smelling of roses
    and the aggressors come up on the compost,
    The decision was a Scottish one,
    and rightly or wrongly, That decision was made,
    just like the decision Argentina took to illegally invade the Falklands,
    rightly or wrongly that decision was made, and you paid the price for that decision, [because THAT decision was illegal and wrong]
    [one lump or two]

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Morning all - I see MoreCrap still can't stay on subjectg and appears to know very little about Ghandi and India's independence, Kiwi's-arse still can only muster the p word, and Rolly and Artillery didn'r actually say anything at all!

    Falkland islands still British? Excellent! :-)

    Mar 03rd, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Well back to base, where the sun dont shine
    back tomorrow at half past nine, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Kiwisarg (#)
    Don't think knows what planet he is on.
    It is the talk of war that has been the root of all world evil and two wrongs do not make a right. Unfortunatly Argentina will never accept that they never did own our Islands or ever will. Just like they never did own Argentina they created it by killing all the indigenous people that is something as a Falkland Islander I can boast we never had to do to settle our Country.

    Why don't all those disgruntled Argentines crawl back in the whole they obviously came out of because we hear nothing differant day in day out. The record gets a bit boring. Meanwhile these last 150 plus years we IsLanders (Kelpers) have been consolidating our place in the south atlantic.
    Just for the record I wonder how any good argentine (and there are some) would react if they had to live constantly under a dictator threat. Oh Sorry the vast majority of you already do sorry for sugesting otherwise.
    Do have a pleasant evening I am. At least we know where we are going in life. Lovely black gold cant wait for the extra little green backs in the bank from all the revenue we are about to get and Argentina is not.
    Just say if you need a small loan I am sure we may be able to help you out NOT.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    I would like to see how much black gold can be extracted from our Argentina's islands, .Good luck man. I hope that you are a real kelpers.

    46 Red Rotten, you always with your craps comments , man! keep going!!brit's......!! :-))))))

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    You'll read about it. Unfortunately they aren't your islands so you'll never get any of the stuff, if there is any.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    Kiwisarg.

    Did I hit a raw nerve? seems that I did. Let me just say this old fellow. I resent like all the rest of my fellow Brits your blatant lies that you always tell when anyone mentions the Falklands. Let me make it quite plain to any Argentinians who are posting on this site.

    I don't care what you think of Britain. I laugh at you all.

    I don't care if you call us all pirates. I laugh at you all.

    I don't care that you want the Falklands. I laugh at you all.

    I don't care that you think we are imperialist pigs. I lough at you all.

    I don't care that you insult us and call us names. I laugh at you all.

    I dont care that you call us Killers, we are when a certain country invades us. I laugh at you all.

    I don't care that Argentina that Argentina is going to lose out in the oil stakes. I lough at you all.

    In short like many of my fellow Brits, I think,( No I will change that word I just wrote) I know that you are just a joke nation that thinks its a player on the world stage. No one takes you seriously( well why should they) when you let yourselves be ruled by so many dictators, even this idiot that you have is ripping you all off, but you are so stupid that you cant see that she is doing it. I seem to remember a certain General that was ripping you off, so to get you all on his side he invaded a few small Islands called the Falklands that were British. Tell me again how did that little escapade turn out for you?

    Perhaps next Time you invade our territory we wont stop on those Islands, seems that it would make more sense for us to take over Argentina, I like corned beef. And it would put a stop to all this stupid claims of you Idiots that live in Argentina.

    Hey fellow Brits have you seen that video clip of that Argentina football ref sending of every player on the field. Only in Argentina can that happen stupid Argys

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    You, laugh, laugh! the whole bloody time! keep going! brit!!!!The Argentinien will laugh of you soon and I even more:-)))))

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @Kiwisarg, ha ha ha ha ha or if you prefer ja ja ja ja ja.- it would be your salvation. Allow us to run your poor long-suffering country for a brighter future.
    you would have to keep right out of the situation, you would only drag it down.
    Pay us a percentage of the profits to properly run Argentina(may l suggest, sayyyy 15%?).
    Or if you prefer just give us Santa Cruz & TDF Provinces. you'll have to leave them of course, for you are an“implanted”population. Squatters in fact, as we were there before you. Don't believe it? Check up, you'll find it so.
    Yes, l can see a fruitful partnership here. You don't have to do anything (well, you don't do too much anyway!). Just sit back and see your country bloom(& get 85% of the profits). Deal?

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    33 Teaboy2,

    Last-word-freak, I posted a link to the photographer's page

    A bit of education for you: the information recorded by your camera is called “EXIF DATA”, this information is embedded into the files the camera saves and it is impossible to fake. When a photo is copied, such as the one posted here, the Exif Data is lost leaving only the photo containing Exif Data as the original.

    Also you can see this photo is part of a set of 950 photos, all taken in the same exact way, HDR. http://www.flickr.com/photos/80651083@N00/sets/72157601459782842/with/2197842385/

    CLEARLY this is the photographer who took the photo and he has explicitly reserved all rights to his work. Just because the photo doesn't have a copyright logo on it doesn't mean that it has no attributions.

    And you're wrong.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    She looks too old for children.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • R.G. R Liars.

    When are the Argentines and Chileans going to leave Tierra Del Fuego and give it back to either the English or the Falklands.
    The English flag flew there for years before being lowered by the Argentine military.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @#54 Martin perhaps you missed the point i made about mercopress buying the photo, as like many news companies do.

    Also consider copyright registeration too, so is the photograpther registered? i doubt it.

    And then you have copyright notice, making it clear the photo is copyright protected, without this and copyright registeration it be very hard to prove copyright infringement. Or that the person whos flicker account they appear on were the photographer. For all we know the person who owns the flicker account maywell have collected the images from elsewhere on the net.

    As for your technical jargon, well all that is irrelevant, as it doesnt prove copyright infringement.

    So basically all mercopress probably did was contact the flicker account member who posted the image asking permission to use it. The fact your claiming copyright infringement without knowing whether or not the copyright owner is registered as a copyright holder and the fact no copyright notice is on the image, or whether mercopress had asked and had been given permission to use the photo, would it self make your claims of copyright infringement false and therefore an act of libel.

    So until you know the facts surrounding the photo's usage, id suggest you shut the hell up.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    I am not sure that the Scottish Assembly has the sole authority in the Libyan bomber release. It is my understanding that Foreign Affairs is not a devolved area of responsibility.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Suguler

    Nothing particularly controversial about this story. Cristina pointed out some good things which have been achieved working in partnership with other nations. All jolly good and nothing to get wound up about.

    As a Brit I do rather admire Cristina's forthrightness in contrast to the slick oiliness of Blair, Cameron, etc. She's a rather fascinating leader, whose strengths and flaws often seem tied to each other.
    I can understand the Argentine viewpoint on the Malvinas/Falklands, just as I can understand the viewpoint of the Falkland Islanders.
    Its an issue which ignites strong passions but which is ultimately not that important, certainly not important enough to spill the blood of Argentines and Brits.

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    Suguler: A very good comment.
    Thank you for posting a balanced view.
    Regards

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Doesn't sitting on the fence provide nothing more than a pain in the arse Suguler?

    Morning all ... no change I see. But the there wouldn't be, would there? Tea time :-)

    Mar 04th, 2011 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    57 Teaboy,

    “For all we know the person who owns the flicker account maywell have collected the images from elsewhere on the net.”

    Keep stretching it, you'll get to the moon soon and we won't be able to hear you.

    Moron

    Mar 05th, 2011 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    @62 Martin, we feel the same way when you trot out the useless false history on here all the time, because none of you are unable to prove any of it with original sources.

    However, as a Videographer, Video Editor, and DVD/Blu-ray Author, I have to agree with both of you to a lesser or greater extent. The owner of a copyright is the author, or the person that created the work, there is no registration process, it is an implicit right (much like Self-Determination), and the owner of that work, whether he/she takes steps to protect that right, or not, still retains full copyright.

    Posting images on public domains promotes the possibility that a work might be copied, although any rights to the work are not diminished.

    The use of works posted into the public domain should include a request to the author, as a matter of courtesy at the very least, but it is not the case that any third party needs to be aware or informed.

    It is good practice to add some sort of copyright mark on any work placed in the public domain, so that ownership of copyright is clear to everyone, but this is not necessary, or legally binding.

    I support a Charity, and donate my time and efforts, this includes donating my copyright to any video footage I record, edit, or author, indeed I have designed a copyright logo for the Charity and have taken the time and effort to place this on the completed footage on which I've waived my copyright.

    Mar 05th, 2011 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “because none of you are unable to prove any of it with original sources”

    Uh, you're right. ;-)

    Enough said.

    Mar 05th, 2011 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    So I commit a double negative in error then, and thats your argument?

    Post those original sources here then Martin, go on, at least try to prove what you and your government claim is true, I won't hold my breath waiting, because you can't; if you could you'd all be knocking on the door of the ICJ before you could say 'snap'.

    Stick to your made up nonsense if you want to, you'll continue to look a joke.

    Mar 05th, 2011 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    and what a joke they look

    Mar 05th, 2011 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    59 Suguler, good try.
    But you know, fanatics are everywhere, their meaning for ¿life? is mainly to close doors.
    Plenty of them in our times.

    Mar 06th, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    59 Suguler .
    I like your comments. It is the first time that I hear an intelligent brits.
    Red Rotten and other brits in Mercopress , should learn more about Suguler.

    Mar 07th, 2011 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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