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Wikileaks: Argentina’s self centred attitude almost had her thrown out of G20

Friday, March 18th 2011 - 03:45 UTC
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Disappointed and shocked with the self-centred performance of President Cristina Kirchner at the G-20 summit in Washington in 2008, a group of powerful countries seriously considered kicking Argentina out of the industrialized and emerging countries’ Group of Twenty. Read full article

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  • Redhoyt

    Argentina ' self centred' - wow, whatever next :-)

    Goes to show though that Argentina isn't fooling anyone ! Over anything.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Lol, being your country kicked from the G20 for the simple and sole reason that people just dont like you.

    Amusing.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Almost getting*

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    So, what else is new? What a great pity they weren't chucked out on their ear.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Denrich

    Not sure which is more amusing, the article itself or the fact Martin the fairy has lost the plot and had yet another post removed by the editor.

    Argentina...Laughing stock of the world!!

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    So, they consider throwing her, Presidenta Fernandez, out of the G20 organisation meeting to find ways out of the Global Crisis, because she is a 'loose cannon', confrontational and 'conflictive';

    then the UN gives her half a billion dollars from the Global Crisis social fund.

    Its a funny old world

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We have said it once and we can say it again, all mouth and no trousers, [in her case dress] even her faithful bloggers are losing interest in her,
    you see it in there replies, oh how they wish they were us, sophisticated
    and the charisma just pours of us, how sad then to be argentine,
    with a woman who talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk, ??

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    Um yeah, Cristina is a moron. Maybe she can go ask comrade Chavez for some advice?

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “ centred in criticizing the IMF and calling for reforms”
    They didn't like that, they think we have to behave like Britain using an American dog leash.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Clearly none of you ever heard her talk, [not that any one of you could understand what she says]. You sit back and pass judgement like you're all experts but you're completely out of touch with reality and you never know what the hell you're talking about. You think because you read Mercopress you've got it all figured out? haha..

    She's incredibly clever, focused, structured, remembers all facts and never reads from a script. Far more than any of your political clowns could ever accomplish.

    I'm talking to you in your own language, flawlessly, none of you could ever reply in mine. It's actually sad when a group of blind, ignorant people throw words around like “us, sophisticated”, “charisma” ...“moron”.

    You people are about as sophisticated and charismatic as a French-fry that's been stepped on a billion times. Your collective 'intellect' wouldn't amount to one gram of sense, you're just a pack of stupid dogs in a frenzy feeding off each other's stupidity, amplifying it as the comments stack up... getting more and more stupid.

    And your precious England is doomed, broke, old and faded in its own decadent past. Argentina is by your standards new, and by any standard rising. Time has a funny way of settling things and time is definitely NOT on your side.

    Keep barking, idiots. You're good for laughs...

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    #7 - Just to note; the UN did not GIVE her half a billion dollars from the Global Crisis social fund, but it did make another loan to Argentina. She will probably use it for re-election “expenses”.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    11 Time isn't on anybody's side. Haven't you realized that yet? Meanwhile the Union Jack flies high and proud over our beautiful Falkland Islands and other extensive South Atlantic Territories. Keep smiling and keep the faith.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Whatever Kelper.

    I wish I knew who the editor was, they hide safe behind their desks spewing this nonsense and they don't even know whether or not it is factual.

    “A parochial CFK unprepared for G-20 summits”

    Clearly written by a Brit, not a doubt in my mind. Not because the article wasn't written in her favor but because whoever wrote it clearly NEVER heard her speak.

    And if this article was simply copied from another source then what kind of “journalism” is that? Any IDIOT can copy/paste, you're just parroting. It's crap, from beginning to end.

    Mercopress feeds you this garbage and you swallow it… good boy! Now you know everything!

    Imbeciles.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Denrich

    I think this report has rattled Martin the Fairy's cage, anger management classes are needed Martin.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Jerry #12,
    I think the UN are well aware of the loan-default status of Argentina.
    Trust me, they know it´s a gift.
    Geoff.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    Hey Marty,
    Whose country is getting free money for poor children from the World Bank because they can't provide for them Martin? You're not a developed country yet buddy. Maybe one day Cristina's socialist vision will make everything wonderful there. Argentina is rising???? In what sense Marty? Feel free to be as specific as possible in your response.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Martin - you are incorrect, the whole speech was televised through the media and was well documented. so again you're using false facts to back up your argument as i think you will fine that most of us did, in fact, watch it. In fact everything you say is usually based on falsehoods that you simply believe are true, only because you are wanting them to be true.

    Yes you write good english, so what, it doesnt make you any more intelligent or more charsmatic than us. I personally have an IQ of 130, yet i am dyslexic too and struggle with reading and writing as a result. You say we are not sophisticated, funny since where one of the leading scientific nations in the world, we have nuclear power and weapons we hand concord (First and only commercial jet to break sound barrier), and made many advances in many science's. We are behind the inventions of many things you currently use on daily or regular basis, such as the computer (Charles Babbage) that you now use to post your babble. Tell me what has argentina brought and given to the world, other than beef, which that we brit also have our own supply off? Err nothing worth noting. Hell we even built your railways for you, and you call us the unsophisticated ones, when you couldn't even build your own railways. Seriously you should could be a comedian Martin because you make laugh so much with your tosh.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Ah... here we go, 'we did this, we did that' ...like either one of us knows all there is to know about each country's achievements.

    “Tell me what has argentina brought and given to the world, other than beef...”

    That alone proves just how ignorant you are... we make nuclear reactors too, bonehead. You just don't know what INVAP stands for.

    I'll tell you what Argentina didn't bring and give to the world, SLAVERY.

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Martin, look at the history of SLAVERY, and tell me where did the creole population in Argentina come from?

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    Hi Marty,
    I hope you're having a wonderful day. I'm still waiting to hear how Argentina is rising. Have a super weekend!

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    You tell me numbnuts, then I'll tell you if you have a point or not.

    By the way... “First and only commercial jet to break sound barrier” ...Concorde? Not 'Concord', was a project between the British Aircraft Corporation and Aérospatiale of France.

    Trying to take all the credit... are we?

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @11 Hitler could pack em in when he talked as well.....

    Justin...actually 2 questions there re the creoles...
    1/ where did they come from?
    2/ where did they go?

    I'm sure Martin can fill us in on those details

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Martin # 19 - Wow Martin your country has 2 nuclear reactors producing electricity and 5 research reacters (Still trying to learn eh). But who shared with you the knowledge on how to build them and generate nuclear power, as you did not manage it on your own. As for IVAP well thats your space agency that also develops the reacters, yet they only have 3 satellites of their own in orbit. We are a founding member of the European Space Agency and one its biggest contributers.

    As for your post #22 where you say the following “Concorde? Not 'Concord', was a project between the British Aircraft Corporation and Aérospatiale of France” - Perhaps you missed the part where i stated i was dsylexic, so such spelling mistakes are not uncommon from sufferers like myself, and pulling me up on such is discrimination. As for British Aircraft Corporation and Aérospatiale of France - your right it was a joint MANFACTURING PROCESS - But sadly for you, it was a design by british company BAE.

    So are we taking credit for a BRITISH DESIGN yes we are. Oh And the vulan Bomber is another aircraft that we designed and built, though you know all about the vulcan don't you!

    Mar 18th, 2011 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We have stated before, to correct a mans spelling is the true abilty of the person that said it, stupidity was born out of ignorance not learning
    please do not slag a man of because of spelling errors, we have corrected argentinain bloggers before on this, behave yourself argies,
    or we will send you all back to school.
    [but thats no good] you learned nothing then and you learn nothing now, bee good or the condons come off

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    24 Teaboy2,

    I don't give a shit what you suffer from so don't expect sympathy from me.

    You know all about the Super Etendard, don't you? We didn't build it but we sure as hell knew how to fly them. ;-)

    25 briton,

    You Brits are the ones constantly reminding us of our spelling mistakes and our lack of understanding, which is a ludicrous attitude considering it's not our native language and you can't make a single sentence in ours.

    We're bilingual, you're an idiot.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Martin, you are risking winning my first Turnip Award for invective.
    We know you are bi-lingual, and we are jealous, but use your skills with finesse ;-)

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    bi-polar more like it.......

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redhoyt

    Nice one Frank :-)

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    i dont think anyone questions her intelligence, just her judgement, she is stuck in a closed world, she doesnt care what effect she has on the world as long as her word is carried as law in Argentina. The moves she makes are very calculated, we all think she set up Timerman with the American transport aircraft and he sank himself perfectly, but we question her direction, its as if she doesnt care if her country sinks, as long as she is seen as the leader.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “her word is carried as law in Argentina”

    Yeah, she's only the president.

    I can reverse everything you just said right back to the UK, or any other country in the world for that matter.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    i dont see our defence minister impounding american jets on planned visits you moron

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Right, because those circumstances take place all the time, and if it's planned it means nothing can go wrong. Like the yanks could be trusted unconditionally.

    I take back what I said, you can't reverse everything back to the UK, certainly not intelligence.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Y Draig Goch

    same all the time or once, its a mark in time when somthing as silly as that happens, its just your nation does it pretty often, silly over dramatic gestures which alienates it more and more.

    I see no comments from your Illustrious leader on the situation in Libya... or is this another example of NIMBY....? or do you need explaining what that is?

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    How the hell am I supposed to keep track of every comment CFK makes? Are you crazy? You're zig-zaging from one topic to another, you're lost, give it up you lost the argument already.

    If you call support from all of South America “alienated” you clearly don't know what that word means. The US will remain neutral no matter what, “silly incidents” or not, keep fishing man...

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'support'?.... I'd call it 'lipservice'

    speaking of which , whenever I look at that photo I think of golf balls and garden hoses......

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Well, someones pulled sr Martino's chain. what an angry young man he is. (sounds like a man, not intelligent enough to be female!).
    We don't expect any sympathy from you, Martin, so don't offer it.
    Rant all that you like, and tell us all how great you and your country are, if it makes you feel better.
    Just keep your thieving hands off OUR lslands.
    They have NEVER belonged to you and they NEVER will. Got the picture, senor?

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    I guess he will be back soon... wonder if his mum made him take his meds this morning???

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Martin #26 - You clearly are a ignorant person. You could not counter my argument or answer my question as to what argentina has brought ot the world. So you instead insult me because of my disability. You have no understanding of what it is like to be sufferer, but to give you an idea heres an example. Every word and/or letters appear in a different order to how you see it. It is like reading a completely different language for which i have to translate. Then theirs the issue of processing the information and remembering it, in other words sometimes i have to read what i have just read again and again. Which is why sometimes i do not response to every point raised by others, as i simply forget that point after reading it due to difficulty processing it. Sometimes i use what instead want or their instead of there, which are the easyiest signs to spot for the condition. But as you said, you have no sympathy for me and my condition, so then you also have no sympathy for the 10% of the worlds population that suffer from it or your own friends that suffers from it, since 1 in 10 are sufferers of some form of dsylexia. In fact a lot do not even know they are a sufferer so its likely to be as many as 3 - 10 that suffer from it. Your unsympathic view is nothing but evidence of your lack of understanding and uneducated view of the disability. So keep up with the unsympathic view and insults, as it only shows people here just what an idiot and arsehole you really are. I sure hope you are not a true reflection of your people's attitude towards others. But then Tim, that posts on this forum, is in my opinion a true argentinian who respects people regardless of their race, nationality and gender.

    As for the Super Etendard; As you said, thats a french built and designed plane not argentine, so is irrelevant to what i asked you. The fact you mention it is nothing short of spiteful and intended to bring up the falklands war. But hey look who won, we did - so your point was?

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    Wow this is a bias europid attitude, I guess british and US murderers killing libyans and all muslims for their oil and resources isn't selfcentered ? yawn.
    here is sonmething really interesting to read.
    http://www.gregpalast.com/sell-the-lexus-burn-the-olive-treernglobalization-and-its-discontents/
    http://www.gregpalast.com/sell-the-lexus-burn-the-olive-treernglobalization-and-its-discontents/

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    I #40 Err and where are the US and british kiling libyians? I think you will find it is ghaddfi himself that is killing Libyans. All the US, France and UK are doing is setting up a NO FLYZONE to PROTECT THE LIBYIAN CIVILIANS from ghaddfis military force, which dispite an declearation of a a cease fire, his forces as of last night were still attacking.

    As for the links you provided, well thanks for a complete load of tosh. Sorry but i can not see how the bloggers personal opinions, in the blogs you linked too, have any relevance to your accusation of British and US forces killing libyans or, in fact, to this article above.

    I seriously question just what planet your from “I”, every post you make seems to have little to no relevance to the matter at hand, and are full of falsehoods or irrelevant opinion.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    39 Teaboy2 , martin just dont understand, his education is so first class and advance of anything we can come up with , thats why martin thinks we are all idiots, the world is full of idiots, exept martin,
    ??

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “MANFACTURING PROCESS - But sadly for you, it was a design by british company BAE.

    So are we taking credit for a BRITISH DESIGN yes we are. Oh And the vulan Bomber is another aircraft that we designed and built”

    Same with the eurofighter :-)

    BAE are pretty good with stuff like that.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    ”You know all about the Super Etendard, don't you? We didn't build it but we sure as hell knew how to fly them. ;-)”

    Yeah straight into our Harrier pilots, Another British plane and a pretty nifty one at that. Your pilots were brave, i'll give them that. But they were not very good.

    Argentina had 240 warplanes in 82, half of them were on the Chilean border. 120 warplanes you had at your disposal. The UK had 20 harriers. You lost 21 planes and failed to get one harrier in air to air combat.

    The only reason they get any mention is because out of the Navy, Army and Airforce they were the ONLY barely competent branch of your forces.

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Having said that, if we had had the RAF fighters , they would have lost up to 1/2 there air force I be thinking .

    Mar 19th, 2011 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    39 Teaboy2,

    “As for the Super Etendard; As you said, thats a french built and designed plane not argentine,”

    I said “ We didn't build it but we sure as hell knew how to fly them.” post #26

    So you're also blind? Quit playing at my sympathies Brit, I told you I don't care.

    You people are so pathetic, you disgust me.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Martin #46 - No i am not blind, i simply pointed out that you yourself had said that you did not build the super etendard. I confirmed that point you made, by making it clear it was french built and designed. As for your claim that you knew how to fly it, well that simply is not relevent to my question to you as to what argentina has brought to the world? (which is in the post you where originally responding to). And as i said your mentioning of the super etendard (including your following claim of knowing how to fly it) is nothing more then spiteful and intended to bring the falklands islands war into this argument. But as i said before, who won the war, we did. so what exactly was your point? So.. although i did not directly respond to your claim of knowing how to fly them, i did indeed indirectly respond, but someone lacking in intelligence and humanity as yourself, simply would be too stupid to actually be able to see what is inbetween my words or their meaning, both direct and indirect.

    You insults towards me do nothing but show your own true colours and the fact you are of a lower intelligence incapable of any constructive counter argument. So anyone reading your post, will simply think “what an idiot and pathetic human being you are” martin.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    All together now who gives a flying F**K about the wicked witch of the south and the rest of the little girls that think they are boys in Argentina.

    And as Teaboy2 has said what has Argentina ever done in the world.

    Once more we see how Argentina thinks she is a large player in the world when all she is, is a two but player. What a laughing stock you all are.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Martin_Fierro
    Quit playing at my sympathies Brit, I told you I don't care
    But you do care martin, you just dont know it yet..
    the british hold something of a facination for you
    go on admit it, you do care, you do

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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