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Falklands reports grounding of a pod of 400 pilot whales

Saturday, March 19th 2011 - 22:54 UTC
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A record grounding of an estimated 400 pilot whales was reported this week in the Falkland Islands. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    “A team from Falklands Conservation was scheduled to visit the island to gather information and make a report on the situation.”

    I can't wait for that report.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    What do you mean by that?

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Marcos - why? Are you a marine biologist? All this time I thought you were a special needs case.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Marcos - I can guess you will blame fishing and say liar Bingham could have prevented it! Wale Up at look at history - this is a natural event - nobody knows why it happens - but it does - and has been at times -ever since people have been here! It happens elsewhere in the world as well.
    This time the numbers are up on the last one here a few years ago whicwas 30-40 I recall, but there have been others of hundreds like this as well- even 1oo plus years ago.. So NO evil cause.

    Mar 20th, 2011 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    yessssssssss!!!They are from argentina!!!

    Mar 21st, 2011 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    got a problem with snakes, kiwi?

    Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Realwarfare

    There has been a lot of anthropogenic noise activity in the region. 3 Navy vessels and one with research team have been doing a lot of stuff in the area.
    1. HMS Scott , February 24, 2011: Patrolling duties in South Georgia, South Sandwich and South Shetland Islands (not far from stranding site), deep water survey work, mapping the Antarctic Seas. “The vessel’s sonar is capable of surveying the deepest oceans in continuous lines of up to 400 miles in length....The full ship’s crew is 78; however, the crew rotation system means 52 are onboard at any one time during a standard 35-day operational cycle and the remainder of the crew take leave. By operating in this way the ship can be at sea for 307 days a year.” (http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/24/hms-scott-on-ice-patrol-and-antarctic-sea-deep-water-survey-mapping)
    2. HMS York scheduled to arrive to Falklands mid-March. Marine security patrols. The ship has brand new Sea Dart missile system. Not clear if they tested it near Falklands. The tour ends in July. (http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/24/hms-scott-on-ice-patrol-and-antarctic-sea-deep-water-survey-mapping)
    3. US Navy ship with Scripps Institution of Oceanography researchers. Departed from Cape Town February 20 and have been using powerful “sonar to create detailed maps of the ocean floor from South Africa to Chile....As of March 7 the Melville had crossed the South Atlantic and was heading past the Falkland Islands.”
    (http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/24/hms-scott-on-ice-patrol-and-antarctic-sea-deep-water-survey-mapping)
    The problem is that it is very hard to pinpoint who or what was responsible for this enormous stranding. It could be just one factor, or a combination of factors including either all man-made factors or all natural factors or a combination of both. But 2 vessels with very powerful sonar on board and one with new missiles system sure do not look that harmless. We feel that this situation needs to be investigated further. The major problem with this

    Mar 22nd, 2011 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    I don't see how the sea dart missile system can be to blame...It's an anti aircraft missile system.

    HMS Scott was very far away from the Falklands.

    Mar 23rd, 2011 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    Also SeaDart is not new, It's 38 years old.

    Mar 23rd, 2011 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC
    Anybody cares to investigate the obvious???

    British Seismic Oil Surveying in Malvinas during January 2004
    http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5

    And then…… This happens:
    MASS PILOT WHALE STRANDING:
    FRIDAY, 23 JANUARY 2004
    There has been another mass Pilot Whale stranding just past Elephant Beach. Around 110 Whales beached this time and the carcasses weren’t found until recently, which meant that by the time they were spotted, their bodies were around three to four weeks old. I spoke to Sasha Arkipkin, who went to the stranding site to tell us more.
    http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5

    British Seismic Oil Surveying in Malvinas during March 2011
    http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5

    And then…………………… This happens:
    Saturday, March 19th 2011 - 22:54 UTC
    Falklands reports grounding of a pod of 400 pilot whales
    A record grounding of an estimated 400 pilot whales was reported this week in the Falkland Islands.
    http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5

    A perfectly good Ozzie parody about the problem……. Maybe “Malvinas Conservation” can recycle it:
    http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5

    Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Why don't you look up 'beached whale' in your favourite, Wikipedia? There's a photo of a mass stranding from 1904. Obviously the Brits' fault, of course.
    There was a big stranding at East Bay in August '03. Why don't you find out what was going on then in the seismic world?
    I brought a bleached pilot whale skull home just a week ago.I think it had been there for quite a long time. Probably since the very first seismic survey in 1833 in fact.
    Any idea what causes mass strandings in Argentina? Or do you have a different kind of seismic survey there? Or perhaps your strandings are caused by something else entirely.
    It's a mysterious world. Perhaps all the whales that are susceptible to seismic surveys flock to the Falklands and hurl themselves on beaches just when a survey is about to happen. They could even be Argie whales doing it on purpose to make us look bad.

    Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (11)Monty 69

    The Year 1902 picture you refer as a mass standing on Wikipedia was actually a school of Pilot Whales driven ashore intentionally by the inhabitants of Cape Cod.
    http://capecodhistory.us/19th/whaling%20and%20fishing.html

    An old whaling tradition that was common in the Falklands too.
    Ask some of the old geezers or go to your museum or local archive if you don’t believe me.

    I have participated, many years ago, in a Grinddrab at the Færøerne…… I know my pilot whales.
    http://capecodhistory.us/19th/whaling%20and%20fishing.html

    The same Wikipedia link you refer me to has a chapter about sound pollution and sonar
    http://capecodhistory.us/19th/whaling%20and%20fishing.html
    You could read it too.

    Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    Bloody hell, Think, you win; I might have a pilot whale skull, but I've certainly never eaten one.
    I don't believe it ever was a tradition here; if it was, we'd still be doing it. You know Falkland Islanders and tradition, especially if it involves eating wildlife.
    I did read the article. I also know that pilot whales beach themselves all over the world and have done for a very long time.

    Mar 24th, 2011 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (13) Monty 69

    Yes, Pilot whales can beach themselves too.
    But……this time: ”Unusually many of them were floating dead in the water, Chris May said”
    I’m just mentioning the obvious…………

    Like the penguin mass dead in the 90’s, remember?
    They died by the millions...................
    Whilst fishing boats extracted 100.000 tons of fish from the waters near the rockeries.

    One man mentioned the obvious then.
    He got walloped……….

    Mar 24th, 2011 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    TWIMC

    Rockhopper area of exploration:

    http://www.rockhopperexploration.co.uk/exploration/maps.php

    Speedwell Island location:

    http://www.rockhopperexploration.co.uk/exploration/maps.php

    Notice the blindingly obvious fact that Rockhopper are North of the Islands, Speedwell Island off the coast of Lafonia is to the South.

    But then logic has never been a strong point, when it comes to taking any incident to manufacture a way of having a go at the Falkland Islands.

    A couple of other facts, 100,000 T of fish was not extracted from waters near Rookeries, that was the total from the entire EEZ.

    OK carry on with the bigotry and the hate El Thicko.

    Mar 24th, 2011 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Seismic Oil Survey has been ongoing, on and off, all over the area shown in the map below, since 2001…………….

    http://www.petroleum-economist.com/images/46/25591/falklands2.gif

    Mar 25th, 2011 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    TWIMC

    Other than innuendo is there anything to link this event with a seismic survey?

    OK carry on with the bigotry and the hate El Thicko.

    Mar 25th, 2011 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “Yes, Pilot whales can beach themselves too.
    But……this time: ”Unusually many of them were floating dead in the water, Chris May said”
    I’m just mentioning the obvious…………”

    What's obvious think? that in some mysterious way seismic surveying hundreds of kilometres away killed these Pilot Whales just as they happened to be swimming right next to a beach on Speedwell Island........or that they beached themselves (as they do), died, then the spring tide floated them off?

    Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    They could, of course, have died of old age (asw they do)..................

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W77IqQW9xzU&playnext=1&list=PL9A48799C81AC96B1

    Mar 26th, 2011 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frase

    Maybe it was suicide....like those whales that washed up in Argentina after committing mass suicide in protest about native English speakers in the South Atlantic.

    At least wash the oil off of the penguins in your own province before accusing others of environmental abuse.

    Criticism of the oil industry and its methods is more than fair enough, but at least do it with a bit of perspective.......

    That Australian interview does just get funnier with every view though, my favourite part is at the start of the interview when he's ‘trying to pinpoint’ exactly which whale the interviewer is talking about at around 1:15, another funny part is:

    ‘I believe it was a fairly elderly mammal’
    ‘How do you know that?'
    ‘Well, it would have to be wouldn’t it? You’re not going to die of old age unless you’re getting on a bit’

    I’d be surprised if seismic surveying had no adverse effects on marine life, but why take up the issue if it’s happening on both sides?

    Mar 26th, 2011 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Those Ozzies are goooooooood………………….

    Oz Busines as usual
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpV-Ibq-0Q

    Oz Immigration:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpV-Ibq-0Q

    Oz values
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpV-Ibq-0Q

    Mar 26th, 2011 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frase

    I hadn't heard of Clarke and Dawe before. It's funny stuff, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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