MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands’ oil find likely to be commercially viable, says Rockhopper Exploration
Rockhopper Exploration announced Monday that its Sea Lion discovery in the North Falkland basin is likely to be commercially viable and anticipated drilling for further appraisal wells (a minimum of three). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesChuckle chuckle........
Mar 21st, 2011 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Share price: 287.75 P
(Exciting week ahead…. Let’s see what the market makes of this RNS)
Day 1 of RNS and sp up 32.60%. Looks like the market has likes this result Think.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Laugh all you want think as the odds of the last laugh being ours are now stacked in our favour.
Now seismic data to be interpreted and available in July and funding for a further eight wells with three already planned after Desire drill Nicky.
Sea Lion is gradually giving up its secrets and it is looking like it is a monster.
Come on Think, stick a few quid on it. You will like what you get back in return!
Laugh as you wish, but when oil finally flows on to ships, south America will change, the Falklands will be very happy-the uk will be very happy
Mar 21st, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ad Argentina will look very silly, so laugh away , were busy.
do not start celebrating yet brits!!
Mar 21st, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0KIWI''sArse
Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does that mean “do not start celebrating yet brits ”?
We will do as we wish kiwi. I cannot wiat until the updated volumetrics come out with revised P10, P50 and P90 numbers.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All of the drills at sealion have come in with great data that confims I made the right decision to invest in this company. The great news is that there is more to come and what is itersting is thaat it is now odds on that sealion extends further south.
will be mortgage free in a few years and my family will be very well looked after and this is why I play this game. The fact that Argentina can do sod all about it is an added bonus.
Now run along and read Das Kapital or something else equally useless.
Beef, 'will be mortgage free in a few years' You did not pay the mortgage of your little tent in England yet? OMG is worth that I thought!
Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Beef, his life depends of a little oil/water in Argentinean waters 8000 miles from his home.
Hey Marcos - I suppose I live in a tent. That is if your definition of a tent is one made out of bricks and mortar, with five bedrooms, three reception rooms, en-suite, kitchen-diner, utility, double garage, off road parking for four cars, gardens to front and rear with a band F council tax bracket. Nice tent but not very portable really.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Marcos, let down by his country's education system and now unable to formulate a valid or relevant response.
Just thought I would let you know that the licence area is in Falkland Islands waters, which is the reason all Argentine ships stay away.
Why doesn't the Arg look a little closer to home where they have totally screwed up their own oil industry instead of whinging and being abusive about our success?
Mar 21st, 2011 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is an Argentine trait to not accept responsibility for their own actions so they point the finger and blame others for all of their failures.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 Beef
Mar 21st, 2011 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you will get rich with the resources of others man!!!. It is too risky to invest in something that is not yours!!!! anyway enjoy the Argentina's resources with your family, brits!! Good luck with your future home!!
No Kiwi, we will get rich on the Falklands resources, we ain't touching argie stuff.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG Beef, that's it? You have a brick house with a front a rear garden? HAHAHA
Mar 21st, 2011 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kiwi - It is not my fault that Argentina has been unable to run a pi** up in a brewery with regards to finding and exploiting oil in its waters. We even offered to help you but you tore up an agreement which would have brought more oil and revenue to Argentina.
Mar 21st, 2011 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding your claim over who's resources they are, if you feel they don't belong to the Falkland Islands then you know where the ICJ is.
My family will enjoy the benefits of my investments/ perhaps you should focus on doing the best for your family instead of being jealous of others.
“If you look closely at the trades it might hide a suprise.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone buying today lost money.
IMHO the market was filling big orders at 300p.
Meanwhile the market was continually dropping the sp and was expecting holders to sell. Buy on expectation - sell on news etc. The market today worked a flanker and marched the price down from 340p to 287p yet published this as at 33% price hike. In fact the price dropped by 52p.”
Marcos - if you are going to cut and paste from iii then at least have the decency to reference the original author. This is called plagiarism!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course anyone who bought today will be at a small loss. Firstly you buy at the Ask and sell down the spread at the bid. They will not be at a loss for long and it is advisable not to buy at the open following a stonking 7am RNS.
Every time you post you make yourself look so thick it is laughable. You truly are a special needs case arn't you.
Oh and yes I do live in something called a house. How novel!
“ ... Falkland Islands oil explorer Rockhopper jumped after it said success at its 14/10-4 appraisal well makes it “highly likely” that the Sea Lion field will prove commercially viable. “This was a crunch well for Rockhopper; failure would have raised enormous questions about the viability of the Sea Lion discovery, but the result appears to have matched or beaten expectations, raising the likelihood of a commercial development,” said Matrix Group analyst Charlie Sharp...”
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=4122390
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Well, well, well MoreCrap - the markets seem to think the news is significant. A little profit taking is entirely normal in the circumstances.
lol! yea right, UK found oil in the Malvinas........, and pigs can fly!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0MasterBates - have you never had 'pig's wings' ?? :-)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Beef, That's why I used quotations, if you like to know about the author look it up yourself sheep.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos - very sloppy referencing not to include author & date. still I am correct though arn't I!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Master - actually it is a UK based company that found the oil. It actually found the oil in May 2010, Flow tested the oil in Sept 2010 and has now enjoyed a very good first appraisal. I know you have difficulty even contemplating this but it is much better to take it on the chin and accept the inevitable. Either that or just be as thick as Marcos.
(#)21-- Neil
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you positive on Malvinas Islands around have any oil reserves ?
lol beef, you're a schmuck
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know the history of UK's failures in the Malvinas, you don't have to remind me. I know Rockhopper has said they found commercially viable oil back in May and all.......but UK is known for lying. Please put your money where your mouth is, and invest all you have in these companies, so you can lose all you have :D
Ed - since when has my name been Neil.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Master - have you used up all of your medication. I suppose the UK failed in 1982?
history of UK's failures in the Falklands? that's a pretty slim volume mastershake.....Argentinian failures on the other hand...
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
He who laughs last, laughs longer.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle, chuckle.
Master doesn't appear to know the difference between a country and a public listed company. Looks like him and Marcos went to the same assylum!
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Mar 22nd, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 WestisBest (#)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 11:00 am
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history of UK's failures in the Falklands? that's a pretty slim volume mastershake.....Argentinian failures on the other hand...
:-)
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This reminds me of a totally unrelated but amusing thing on Google...
Try Googling “ French Military Victories” and see what you get !!!!!
Perhaps we should cook up a similar entry for Argentine successes!
( and for GODS sake dont mention “his” hand and football....)
MasterK - Please can you list and give clear evidence of these Lies and False Statements you say the UK has said - in particular over the Islands?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile here are a few of yours:
2nd April 1982 - We have come to free you from the yoke of British Colonial Imperialism - yeah shoving guns in our faces and slapping people about with pistol barrels!
April 1982 - We have sunk the British Destroyer HMS Exeter at South Georgia.
She was actually in the Carribean at the time!!!
The Islands population must keep away from the beaches and areas where the retreating british Marines laid mines - they never had any to lay! It was your soldiers in April who were being blown up by mines laid by their mates who did not tell the next door unit where they were!
Admiral Woodward has committed Suicide!
Prince Andrew has refused to take part!
HMS Hermes- firstly her crerw had mutinied - then I think you sank her?
HMS Invincible - hell you sank her TWICE!!
Even a day or two before Menendez surrendered- Buenos Aires was trumpeting -“We are Winning”!!
Will runout of internet space soon!
Islander you are incorrect.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They claimed to have sunk HMS Invincible 6 times.
And the MS Canberra, the one the conscripts sailed home in....
Temporary Antarctic patrol ship chosen
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 March 2011
A Norwegian icebreaker has been confirmed as the temporary replacement for stricken Antarctic patrol ship HMS Endurance.
MV Polarbjorn is to be renamed HMS Protector for “at least” the next three years while it covers duties previously performed by Endurance
http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=15848
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Mar 22nd, 2011 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0since your birth ! don't you remember ?
do you know Barry.!
Argentina should start sinking any boat in our waters, we shoud set up a no boat zone like the ni fly zone in libya, we can do the same thing white people can do or can't we ?? if not why not, and if we can't set up a no boats zone we should at least start executing all illegal aliens coming to pollute islas Malvinas Argentina against our will.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(#33)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0plausible ! why not...then the Brits can lose their minds.
I (#) [Argentina should start sinking any boat in our waters]
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0by this you mean argentinian boats, brazillian boats, [very clever]
,,,,,,,,,,,,
I (#)[we can do the same thing white people can do or can't we ?? if not why not, [by this you mean you are not white, and very raciest]
I (#)[we should at least start executing all illegal aliens[
from what country, should we start with,[argentinians perhaps]
I (#)[pollute islas Malvinas Argentina against our will.]
how do you pollute yourself against your own will,
replies on a post card please ????
I see Argentina's finest are on the forums today. What an advertisement!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If you want an education or psychiatric treatment then make Argentina your last resort”
I think we could market this to make a profit. On other thoughts I will stick with FI Oil. ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
And loudest!!!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle.
TWIMC
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to be that vaguenesses like:
Company ”BELIEVES” P90 increased significantly….
Company has ”SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED CONFIDENCE” in commerciality….
These data indicates that flow rates and producibility at the location ”COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER” than at 14/10-2……
Rockhopper ”BELIEVE” the results of this successful first appraisal well will significantly increase the contingent P90 volume for this oil discovery…..
”Following this positive result we ”BELIEVE” Sea Lion is highly likely to prove commercially viable……
Are not pleasing the Market!
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark………..And the Brazilian Soap opera continues…………
RKH shares down 3,21% today to 278,50 P
Glad to read all's going fine & dandy for all you islander's .... good luck & enjoy any future wealth this fantasic news bring's you :)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Manchester,England
watch all the suckers fallow this lead and end up with poo on their face or better say emnty bank accounts, maybe the illegal alien companies in Malvinas Argentina are hoping investors forgot their pirat friend dishonorable lewis clifton, well here is a link to refresh any clueless memory out there.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
Think - yes the price gas dipped from the 30%+ yesterday. It is called profit taking and with the IIs wanti to keep cash in reserve to pay out on undetwritten insurance deal in Japan can you blame them?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I though you were more intelligent than looking for things in the marginal daily fluctuations of a SP. Clearly I overestimated your intellectual capacity, or are you just wishful thinking.
My lord you Argies are having a difficult job in recognizing the actual reality of the situation. Shame really, you could make some money out of this if you opened your eyes and dropped the self absorbed pity!
Jealousy is a terrible trait but one that appers normal for the Argentine posters on this forum.
Congrats. to Rockhopper, good luck to the Falklands should oil treasures come their way.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But there is a long way to go and reserves must be proven first, then exploited . . . . and only then sold at a profit.
Looking good, though!
Beef, “Shame really, you could make some money out of this if you opened your eyes and dropped the self absorbed pity!”
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't need your bloody filthy money, just get the hell out of our land.
Isn't this new “find” very close to the first one?
Beginning to sound like straws are being grasped in stolen Patagonia. Bet those poor old goats are getting some stick as well.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite amusing how these foreigners are so desperate for there to be no oil around the Falkland Islands. Especially when neither the Falkland Islanders nor the British seem that bothered.
Why can't you be happy for us like we were happy for you when ...err .. thinking ........... err ... you won the Football World Cup in the 1980's sometime. Or was that the time when you cheated? Anyway all forgiven now. See how magnanimous we British are. You should try and be more like us.
Chuckle chuckle.
Marcos - you really are the Forest Gump of this forum arn't you. Since when has this been a new find? It is the same reservoir as the drill in May 2010. This is an appraisal programme you muppet. We are appraising something that already has been found to determine it's total size. The p90 will be raised and revised P10 and P50 will be issued with further appraisal drills over the rest of 2011. You have really excelled yourself with that last post.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While RKH have been appraising their oil find we have been able to appriase your intelligence and the conclusion is, if your brains were dynamite they wouldn't blow your hat off.
Regarding your land claim. If you feel it is yours then come an get rid of us, or take it to the ICJ. Somehow I think you will do neither and decide to remain bitter, jelous and maintain yourself as the spokespeople of disappointment.
(#36) +(#41)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You argue yourself as dreadful investor !... right ?
here are the -7- basic investments rules advice to you
1) - Always insist on margin of safety...
2) - This time is never different...
3) - Be patient and wait for the fat pitch...
4) - Be contrarian...
5) - Risk is the permanent loss of capital...
6) - Be leery of leverage...
7) - Never invest in something you don't understand.
Football . . . Remembering . . . . the 'Hand of the Devil', wasn't it?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A little butterball of a man.
Long time ago - Mandela? Madonna? . . . in prison for a long time, wasn't it Sparrow Island for cocaine?
Whatever happend to him?
Must be long gone by now, I guess.
(41) Beef
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kind of Déjà Vu feeling here……..
I clearly remember having this conversation with you some time ago….
Same condescending tone.
Same “good financial advice” about investing money in Malvinas oil.
Same ”expert” talk about ”tree shakes”, ”insignificant daily fluctuations”, ”Wishful thinking” etc. etc. etc.
Only difference being, that back then, we where talking about Desire Petroleum…
And we all know where Desire Petroleum is heading….. Don’t we?
Ps:
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Think - Desire was and is still pure speculation. Bloody exciting rollercoaster and don't know which way it is going. Still some time on this one though. Nice hedging strategy in play on that one!
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rockhopper was speculation but is now underpinned by an oil discovery, tested and appraisal started.
Pardon the pun but that is like comparing oil and water.
(49) Beef
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
Rockhopper was speculation but is now underpinned by an oil discovery, tested and appraisal started.
I say:
Says who?
##48 ) wanted belly dancer at some oil rich arab countries internet forums , why don't you go there ? you are not argentine anyway.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(51) geo
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I say:
Says who?
Jealous of what sheep Beef, of this new British oil spill?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good job Brits!
“Atlantic Oil Spill Threatens Endangered Penguins”
Thousands of endangered penguins have been coated with oil after a cargo ship ran aground and broke up on a remote British South Atlantic territory, officials and conservationists said Tuesday
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134760219
Beef /
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The central principle of investment is to go contrary to the general opinion,on the grounds that if everyone agreed about its merit the investment is inevitably too dear and therefore unattractive !
Don't forget !
So the sinking of a Maltese ship on it's way from Brazil to Singapore causing an oil spill is the fault of the British?and how do you figure that one out marcos
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos - if you lot are not jelous then why bother posting. If not then just ignore the news and focus on something of relevance to yourself. As well as being thick as two short planks (plenty of evidence above) you are transparent.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think - Oh I forgot. Everything is a conspirasory isn't it. Especially when it doesn't fit with your Argie view of the world. ”it is not good for Argentina so it must not be true. Get your head out of the sand you are worth more than that.
Yul - I have been in RKH since the SP was in the 30p range. There is a lit more data to gather and also bear in mind that RKH is traded on AIM therefore excluding it from many of the large Investmet Fund portfolios. Yup and Ed, believe me, there is nothing you guys can teach me about investing, speculation or spread betting.
Think ~~~~~~ pardon
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef ~~~~my ##51 comment is valid for you except last sentence
you are not gentleman like my british mate (D.Howe) Mr.
Whining Argentinians in Stolen Patagonia, not content with their futile bid to steal our beautiful Falklands Islands, now want to claim sections of our dear own English language. Show some respect, this is the noble language of Shakespeare, Dickens, Keats, Wordsworth and Kipling not Galtieri, Maradonna, Ossie Ardiles and Peron.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geo - lost me there! Post number 48 was one of El Thinko's! Que?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(#56) Neil --
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0everyday i learn some new things .
your web browser has --screen capture-- ok!
please copy [(#46) advices] into your hard disc
and look at & remember occasionally,you need it .
Ed - really? Not according to the number in my trading account I don't. BTW, I have a cousin called Neil. Perhaps you are getting confused?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good in here today, isn't it!
MS Oliva is Greek owned and Maltese registered.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course it's the Brits fault, Saphira. A British island, which should belong to Argentina because it's in the South Atlantic, got in the way.
:)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the prompt, Be Serious. (#s: 44, 47, 58)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, Madonna was the one with the moves, Maradonna was somebody else.
Once again Marcos has demonstrated he should sue the Argentine education ministry for incompetence. Not very good at geography, economics or reading.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malta, Greece and UK. I suppose they are all made up (or parts of them) of islands.
A Disaster Waiting to Happen
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Disturbing photos show northern rockhopper penguins (Eudyptes moseleyi) hit hard by an oil spill
Southern Atlantic, Nightingale Island is a part of the UK's Tristan da Cunha“
http://news.mongabay.com/2011/0322-hance_oilpenguin_photos.html
”A remote island group right in the middle of the Southern Atlantic Ocean would seem unlikely spot for an oil spill. But alas, we humans are a persistent species”
“The scene at Nightingale is dreadful as there is an oil slick around the entire island,” said Trevor Glass, the Tristan Conservation Officer, in a statement. “The Tristan Conservation Team are doing all that they can to clean up the penguins that are currently coming ashore. It is a disaster.”
http://news.mongabay.com/2011/0322-hance_oilpenguin_photos.html
Marcos - still waiting for you to back up your claims that this was the fault of the UK. Can you?
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 Beef (#)
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 19th, 2011 - 10:16 pm
Marcos -Back on story - looks like we have sent a few Tomahawks into Libya. Watch the fall of another dictator.
Beef, I'm still waiting.
We did launch Tomahawks and Gadaffi will fall. I didn't say when now did I.
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still waiting to see how this Greek owned and Maltese flagged ship crashing is the fault of the UK.
Do you have to try hard at being an imbecile or does it come naturally?
53 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 22nd, 2011 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know other people have asked this and got no answer, but how is this in any way Britain's fault? Explain yourself or pipe down.
I am aware of the location of the islands and their status as a British Overseas territory in the South Atlantic and the ship that caused this new disaster, after all remember I brought this news up, LOL. There is no reason for any large ship of this kind to pass near Nightingale, which is unpopulated and has no port, British responsibility.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0British Gov. and companies love to flood somebody else waters with oil or steal it from another soverign nation. So finally what goes around comes around and they are getting a little bit of their own medicine, tragic for the penguins though.
Roman general Crassus considered the wealthiest man in Roman history, and perhaps one of the richest men in all history. His ambition for acclaim eventually led him into Syria, where he was defeated and killed in the Roman defeat at Carrhae. After Crassus' death the Parthians poured molten gold into his mouth as a symbol of his thirst for wealth.
'Happy Feet' penguins found covered in oil after shipwreck on UK island
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/8396092/Happy-Feet-penguins-found-covered-in-oil-after-shipwreck-on-UK-island.html
71 Der... Dumbo... BP isn't a british company.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos - your post was “good job Brits” therefore claiming the UK for this oil spill. Now you appear to be backtracking but not admitting you where wrong.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0This ship was apparently going from Brazil to Singapore so why did it have no reason to be passing by these islands? Unless you have a great knowledge in maritime navigation you are unable to substantiate this claim.
Just admit it Marcos, you were wrong (as well as thick as pig turd, oink oink).
@73Beef, Marcos will never admit he is wrong, so don't hold your breath.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like his(should be great)country will never admit that it is also wrong.
Dear Marcos, maybe we should pour some good Falkland earth into your mouth as a symbol of you lusting after something that is not yours.
I suggest we include a Argie land mine in the soil that he has to consume. This way we would be giving the Argies back something that does actually belong to them.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me Marcos, if Nightingale Island wasn't part of a BOT would that somehow have prevented this Greek ship from running into it? does being a BOT somehow make islands invisible?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Beef: He does it all the time, other week he quoted the 2500 year old Sun Tzu talking about ghandi.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0After i called him out on it he tried to change the quote, wouldn't admit he was wrong though.
I don't know what we would do without him though. It is so hilarious to see someone so intellectually challenged pretend he is of any relevance to the human race.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps if I ever wander to Argentina I may meet him. I suppose his first words to me would be “Do you want fries with that?”.
77 Zethee, not truth and you know it, that was the American Armed forces right comparisom beteween Sun Tzu philosophy and Britain defeat in India by Ghandi.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The reason for the MS Oliva being so close to Nightingale Island is still under investigation. The carrier was far off course when it hit the island under full steam.”
“It’s awful… we’ll spend millions of dollars on WAR, but conservation of our wildlife is unimportant… when the food chain begins to disappear someone at the top may think differently, but by then it will be too late.”
Read more: http://trifter.com/africa/disaster-on-nightingale-island/#ixzz1HQztfPbP
“I suppose this pollution information has been supressed because an essential government quango has been obliterated by that cad Cameron and his cronies to spitefully save money- I bet I am right!
This is another disastrous mess for all wild life especially these penguins.”
“We've got to stop this dependence on oil. We killing our own planet with this and nuclear 'energy'. And, yes, not a word from HMG busy bombing the shit out of another bunch of brown people for more oil. Are they using depleted uranium as well?”
http://trifter.com/africa/disaster-on-nightingale-island/#ixzz1HQztfPbP
No Beef, he'll be at work on his pitch on the pavement, with dark glasses on, a falt cap up turned, and a begging notice held proudly 'Give generously to the blind idiot'.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its either that or he stands on street corners, mincing back and forth in tight leather, hoping to attract Argentine politicians...
HAHAHA
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/
Marcos returns - so Marcos is this oil spill the fault of the UK or not? You claimed it was so are you right or wrong. Be a man for once!
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did they clean it up already? NO
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are busy bombing Libya for oil, so the answer to your question is :
YES
So the fact that we haven't yet cleaned up a spill and the fact that we are implementing a security council resolution in North Africa means we have caused a Greek owned and Maltese flagged ship to crash into an Atlantic island?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a fabulous advertisement of why not to go to Argentina for an education.
I may be an idiot, but Marcos has to be in his early teens at best, the lack of logical thought has to be due to something, paco maybe?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a fabulous advertisement of why we have to move to clean energy technology.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ we are implementing a security council resolution in North Africa ”
HAHAHA, why? your friend criminal dictator Gaddafi is still alive?
”British officials have condemned Gaddafi for murdering his people. There is just one thing wrong with this: Britain’s outgoing New Labour party and incoming Tory-Liberal Democrat “coalition” governments sold Gaddafi’s regime arms worth GBP 22,500,961 in the second quarter of 2010 alone, including “ammunition for wall and door breaching projectile launchers (two licences); components for semi-automatic pistols; components for sniper rifles; crowd control ammunition (four licences); equipment for the use of sniper rifles”.2 Would those British officials who support sanctions and the imposition of “no fly zones” on Libya support imposing the same things on London?
British hypocrisy”
http://www.paltelegraph.com/world/uk-news/8626-more-blood-for-oil-libya-and-the-uk.html
Chuckle chuckle
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rockflopper down 1,80% today................
Still dripping down after Monday’s “magnificent “ news.............
Think - I can wait for updated volumetrics, can you? Laugh at daily price moves all you wish Think, when it comes to the RKH end game I will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you should change your name to Wishful Thinking?
if this is anything like desire petroleum scam they better be ready to loose serious capital.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/final/darwin_clifton.pdf
I - do your own research the difference between Desire and Rockhopper is like the difference between water and oil.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You appear as thick as Marcos and that is saying something.
Why can't you Argies accept the reality that is staring you in the face? Is it that losing is part of your cultural identity?
Thanks, I, for the link in #89,
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it states that the matter happened but was not deliberate, or insider dealing:
”2.5 Mr Clifton’s misconduct therefore merits a substantial financial penalty (this is on top of the disgorgement by Byron of the £86,030 profit). In assessing the appropriate level of penalty, the FSA recognises the following factors which tend to mitigate the seriousness of Mr Clifton’s misconduct:
(1) The FSA accepts that Mr Clifton’s conduct was not deliberate, in that he did not consider at the time whether the information he was given was inside information . . ”
But he was fined. British justice tends to do that.
The judgement was mitigated by intention; in this case there was no intention.
This is a fine example of UK justice , where people tend to live within the laws of the lands, and those that fall foul of the high standards set in these islands suffer the consequences.
TWIMC
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anybody cares to investigate the obvious???
British Seismic Surveying in Malvinas after oil during January 2004
http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5
And then……........... This happens:
MASS PILOT WHALE STRANDING:
FRIDAY, 23 JANUARY 2004
There has been another mass Pilot Whale stranding just past Elephant Beach. Around 110 Whales beached this time and the carcasses werent found until recently, which meant that by the time they were spotted, their bodies were around three to four weeks old. I spoke to Sasha Arkipkin (SA), who went to the stranding site to tell us more.
http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5
British Seismic Surveying in Malvinas after oil during March 2011
http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5
And then…………………… This happens:
Saturday, March 19th 2011 - 22:54 UTC
Falklands reports grounding of a pod of 400 pilot whales
A record grounding of an estimated 400 pilot whales was reported this week in the Falkland Islands.
http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5
A perfectly good Ozzie parody about the problem……. Maybe “Malvinas Conservation” can recycle it:
http://www.desireplc.co.uk/investor_relations_announcements.php?article_id=5
Marcos, seek help. Your ramblings have reached new scales.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have noticed that I, Marcos etc have not mention the Argentine's claim to the Falklands for quite some time, instead they have just turned to constant Anti-British insults and seem to blame the British for everything they percieve to be wrong...it is good to see their true colours. It isnt really about the Falklands, it is just their hatred and jealousy of a democratic, stable, world power.
Geoff - dont talk to an Argie about consequences, they are incapable of accepting responsibility for their own actions or the consequences of such actions.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are the masters of self pity however. They need our sympathy.
92,Very interesting Think, they are masters of destroying the wildlife everywhere , with the exception of the rats in South Georgia.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 093 M_of_FI, Everybody knows Malvinas is part of Argentina and South America.
I am stand off...listening for now...
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0keep on please .
Think -
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That Australian interview - Very funny
Mass whale deaths as a result of oil exploration - Extremely far from funny
You know how I like to keep these things simple! ;)
I'm far from an expert on the oil industry, so I'd be interested to hear what other people have to say about that.
Marcos - who is everyone?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think - can you find any evidence for your suggestions, rather than consequential information? But this beaching occured after the collection of seismic data had finished? (will re-check that just to confirm). You keep asking my to prove the Sealion discovery and I have revered you to the available reports e.g flow test (although you refuse to believe them). Can you do the same?
“Military activity, oil exploration and algal blooms being examined, as multiple cetacean mass stranding incidents in the UK, Madagascar, Senegal and Japan trigger concern.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Link to Ocean Noise
In recent years there has been increasing evidence that links injuries resulting from ocean noise to whale and dolphin deaths. There are two types of post mortem finding that have been associated with the high intensity impulse noises that result from military exercises or oil and gas exploration”
Read more at Suite101: Whale and Dolphin Mass Strandings: Spring 2008 Sees Unusual Number of Cetacean Deaths Worldwide http://www.suite101.com/content/whale-and-dolphin-mass-strandings-a56855#ixzz1HSGrir4p
”Noise From Offshore Wind Turbines and Oil and Gas Exploration Could Have Negative Effect on Whales (UK)”
http://www.suite101.com/content/whale-and-dolphin-mass-strandings-a56855#ixzz1HSGrir4p
So then Marcos, I now assume that in the interests of marine biology you will lobby your government to cease the planned exploration by YPF-Repsol in Argentine waters. I suppose you would also have to lobby your government not to invest in the green technology of offshore wind power?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make your mind up.
Marcos, the dimwit, war mongering, Eco-warrior!
Your last statement shows the education of a British PhD.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really Marcos, explain?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Value of British Doctorate degree, that would be about £60k per year based on my last pay slip then.
So, will Argentina be carrying out similar surveying in it's search for oil in Argentine waters?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frase, I think is about time we look more into clean renewable energy sources, solar or windpower(inland) is a good start, hybrid engines is becoming a success. Of course oil corporations will tell you a different story.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef,
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0much less than that if you taught/researched.
After all, private industry was an option, but some of us believed the 'vocation' argument of the Grad. Careers Service.
It was Env. Sci., it was good, it took you around the world, but no way did it pay the bills.
Geoff.
Beef /
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody knows that the Economy Literature has been wreched-asocial
not able to understand and solve problems....
after the education many of them choose the way of being bankster,
financial wizard,irrelevant expert ,etc for some reasons !
I mean that we can't solve problems and develop by Brits-American
Economy mentality.
92 - Think - Care to offer an explanation for the mass strandings that have occurred over centuries since people recorder them worldwide in the 18th 19th and early 20th centuries BEFORE offshore oil started anywhere in the world?
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, I agree with you there. The world's oil addiction (and let's face it, it's not just Britain and the U.S) is not healthy. The problem is, renewable energies aren't at a level that they can't provide the energy to power a whole country, so they would need to be majorly supplemented by nuclear energy (although, at first at least, it would be the other way around, renewable energies supplementing nuclear energy), which has it's own inherent dangers (not just in things like what happened at Fukushimi, but also in the dangers of extracting uranium ore). We're going to have to start moving away from fossil fuels sooner or later though, so it may as well be sooner.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff - I teach, research and have an admin role. This pays the most of my salary (the bit that keeps me safe). The extras come from some of my other roles that go with the territory and is variable depending on time of year and diary etc.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I started in a healthcare vocation after my first degree but moved to the academic sector as the job became a bit mundane and didn't pay the bills etc. I have achieved more or less what I set out to do in the academic side if things (PhD, grants, publications, conference presentations etc.) and now looking to move into University Administration. New project needed!
Yul - there are a variety of capitalist models, not just the Anglo-American model. All have had periods where they appear to be “the way” but after the post-modern shift the consumerist driven Anglo-American model is the predominant approach. Dubai adopted a Franco model of supply creating demand but this did not stand up to the economic conditions of the past few years. Feel free to come up with a new model, you may get a paper out of it!
@96
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just wondering at what level yul plays at, he might be handy at distribution, never knew he was a player.
Beef/
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Island( FI) has forgotten to be member of UN by now
We can not call her as a independent country ! right ?
then ,can FI tax the oil revenues if oil found there ?
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Don't make me laugh !
Arab Countries ( notably Gulf ones) -- Economic models !
for all i know -- supply creating demand-- was Keynes model
not Franco ...trying to mobilize again everywhere nowadays !
Yul. You do not define a country by membership of the UN. There are many nations that at various points since the creation of the UN have not been members.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Supply creating demand was a core component of French capitalist thinking for a long period.
Regarding Taxation. Any royalties/tax income from any oil production goes to the FIG and not the UK. BOTs are financialy independent and forumate their own tax laws (how I would dream to have the Cayman Island tax system in the UK, not going to happen though)!
Taxation is not down to sovereign independent status, it is down to law and legislation and how such powers are devolved down to local/regional authorities.
Yul, suggest you research a bit.If a hydrocarbon industry develops off shore ALL the revenues would come to the Falkland Islands Govt. You see we are a self governing territory - We run our own affairs internally, make our laws and raise taxes etc. yes any law we make has to go ultimatley to the Queen for approval by her and the UK Govt - that is to ensure laws are democratic and just - because the UK is LEGALLY Obliged by the UN to ENSURE democracy prevails here.
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The reason we are not a member of th UN is because of Argentina - Aregetina would not recognise our Independence if we went for it- simple as that. So currently we are quite happy to be a member of the Commonwealth Parliaments - there our elected politicians sit down and debate- and are fully recoginzed by EVERY Commonwealth member Nation- alongside and with nations like the Carribbean Connonwealth Nations, India, Many African nations etc etc.
Marcos- renewable energy - come and learn from us - 40% of this town,s electric power is wind powered.
reading info of interest is always enlightening
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An Argentine Opinion - Carlos Escude
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
Do Argentinians like or dislike the British?
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
Welcome to the Falkland Islands
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
Argentinian blockade of the falklands
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
Why the Falklands Dispute Will (Probably) Never Go to Court
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
The Falklands Dispute: Too Important for the ICJ
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=110271675684299&topic=51
Beef/
Mar 23rd, 2011 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your reply is not proficient for me .
in Oil Sector & World has no any examples like this ,
Cayman and other off-shore countries have highly different
procedures,they are open Banking countries ,not have any
production business...
if oil found there ,FI can't tax Oil revenues..this shows FI is the
imitated part of UK !
if FI try to tax revenues then she states fall to a Pirate Country !
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Have't you heard --Supply Side Economics-- which called as
post-Keynesian since 70s years opposite of Monetarism ?
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Islander1/
what an Argentinphobia
You say : The reason we are not a member of the UN is becouse of
Argentina...would not recognize our independence if we went for it....
You can't explain why ! Argentinphobia ?...UKphobia ?
Yuk - what information do you have that the FIG cannot tax the oil revenues? Evidence please, not bland statements which you fail to support!
Mar 24th, 2011 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Frase“We're going to have to start moving away from fossil fuels sooner or later though, so it may as well be sooner.”
Mar 24th, 2011 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree.
Islander1 “Marcos- renewable energy - come and learn from us - 40% of this town,s electric power is wind powered.”
Good for you, I'm looking forward to learn more about your German made wind turbine E-33 in Sand Bay,( soon after UK return the islands :-)
http://www.telpin.com.ar/interneteducativa/PeriodicoTEduca/EnergiaEolica/patagonia.htm
http://www.telpin.com.ar/interneteducativa/PeriodicoTEduca/EnergiaEolica/patagonia.htm
” ... ( soon after UK return the islands :-)...”
Mar 24th, 2011 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better leave a message for your Grand-children's Grand-children's Grand-children then.... although they'll probably be more worried about Hell having frozen over :-))
Yul - you were doing well until you mentioned “pirate country”. Then you lost all credibility. The FIG can and will tax any oil revenues and the royalty rates have already been established in the licence contract and the FIG have already received the revenue from the issuing of licences.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have just proved yourself to be as thick as Marcos. Appears to be a theme running here!
Marcos - the UK returning the Islands? That is a nice story but I prefer The Gruffalo.
Beef-119/
Mar 24th, 2011 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0your first paragraph was expected reply for me .
to give the licence and collect their taxes are different things.
for example ; in Australia ...you can give any mining licences
as local admin but you can't collect their main taxes...merely
the central government take them all...same in US,UK,Canada....
becouse that each state is not independent.
This is big and knotty problem for UK !
If I were England I would give West Falkland Island to Argentina,
East Island is mine for all Oil concessions (plus maybe in Argentina)
just a simple bargaining !
You must be resilient and smart ..obstinacy is not lucrative in all time !
Yul- forget how Arg provinces run and fiscal relations your central state! The Falklands are totally different- The Falklands Govt has full sovereign control over any oil/gas revenue, relevant laws are in place and the royalty amounts already laid down. That is a simple fact - if you still dont believe it- ask the UK Govt.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah I see the usual.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In words of one syllable
FIG licenses oil exploration
FIG receives revenue
FIG keeps revenue
FIG spends revenue on the islands
HMG plays no part
Get it now.
FIG kills whales
Mar 24th, 2011 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FIG kills penguins
FIG kills albatros
FIG kills sealions
FIG kills camarones
FIG kills fish
FIG affects south atlantic environment
FIG eat babies
Mar 24th, 2011 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FIG are satanists
FIG want to kill everyone
FIG wishes that all animals were tortured and killed
FIG doesn't hold the door open for ladies lady
FIG puts out on the first date
FIG eats with its mouth open
I thought that FIG didn't exist, anyway.....
look at this http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/offshores-drilling-controversy2.htm
Mar 24th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0malen you are an idiot.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/15/argentina-confirms-drilling-in-malvinas-basin-for-next-december
If you post idiocy, don't be upset if I call you an idiot.
howstuffworks “effects of offshore drilling energy vs environment”
Mar 24th, 2011 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have been drilling in the sea since 1998 very often, not argentina
we have more oil explorations in the mainland
88 Beef, “Laugh at daily price moves all you wish ”
Mar 24th, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, HAHAHAHAHA
Down again, so far about 5%
Interactive
“Well rockhopper fans it's been a pleasure but for me I have lost the will to live with this share.... Try as I may to find a reason to stay I can't bare to see it drop the way it has... It's as though the Market does not believe there is oil...”
Uuuuuuuups…….
Mar 24th, 2011 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another downward “daily fluctuation” for Rockflopper
Share value down 4,94% today to 260p.
Chuckle chuckle………………
#121 Islander 1 /
Mar 24th, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islanders were granted full British citizenship from
January 1/1983 under the British Nationality (Falkland Islands)
Act / 1983 !
Yul, because they requested full British Citizenship as an act of Self-Determination, after cleaning out the Post Office, and fencing off the mine fields laid by Argentine soldiers, I don't think they were too inclined to apply to Argentina for Argentine Citizenship, funnily enough.
Mar 24th, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0127 malen
Mar 24th, 2011 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You haven't been paying attention, have you?
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/22/malvinas-basin-oil-exploration-scheduled
And we haven't been exploring continuously since 1998. Absolute rubbish. Get your facts right.
I can't even be bothered with your other little rant.Pitiful.
I am pleased to agree that there is no oil whatsoever off the Falklands. Any black stuff that is brought to the surface is just black viscous water and if this coincides with the Falklander's suddenly importing lots of BMW and Mercedes vehicles - don't worry, its not because of that black water.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
how many drillings and seismic surveying have you made in 2010 2011??
Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0explain why 400 whales have died?? surely you are studing what to invent.
BMW and Mercedes to drive and go where?? between the sheeps the rocks in one important street you may have??? you are so boring
as a territory in dispute you cant do very much with the oil
There are mass strandings of pilot whales here every other year, and there have been for the last 100 years that we know of, probably thousands of years.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I could show you whole beach loads of skeletons from long before seismic surveys were even thought of. I wish they wouldn't do it, but there it is.
Why don't you look up 'mass strandings in Argentina' and explain why those whales beached themselves.
Changing the subject, I'm sure Mercedes make a 4WD model. You'd be surprised where a Falkland Islander could take one of those. We wouldn't even need a streetat all:-)
how many drillings and seismic surveying???
Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0results of investigation about whales sth official i want to know not your opinion...lets see what you invent. In Argentina there are organisations defending whales
Youd be surprised where a Falkland Islander could take one of those??? Yes where??? near a glaciar a mountain cataratas viñedos bosques playas sierras what?? miles of kilometers to drive.... tell me I imagine only the penguins more been surprised by those mercedes
Wow... this article has gotten as stagnant as it gets.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen, objectively... whales do beach themselves and die, for no reason (that we know of), it just happens. They're to blame for the penguins but not the whales.
well here you go:
Mar 25th, 2011 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.rian.ru/Environment/20090914/156122198.html
Hasn't there been offshore drilling and oil exploration in Chubut?
This article says that “1994 estimates suggest that over 40,000 Magellenic penguins were killed yearly by chronic oil pollution released from ships along the Chubut Province coast in Argentina”
http://en.rian.ru/Environment/20090914/156122198.html
So, what? Does this now mean that Argentina are ruthless animal killers like you seem to be implying about the Falklands?
Falkland Islanders would be the 4x4 Champions of the world. Maybe Bernie Ecclestone will give that some thought as F1 is so predictable.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then if its roads you want, get the Japs in and marvel at how quickly they can lay roads, even after an earthquake. But hey, remember, there's no oil just sticky black water. ;-)
1994 there was an oil spill of a shell vessel in punta indio i remember
Mar 25th, 2011 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they didnt want to clean it or to get responsabilities
oil contamination is very difficult to erradicate and its damages persists many years
i dont want roads with a 4x4, i just asked where you would take one of those.....campos selvas desiertos palmares??
Wiki says it was 1999, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrame_de_petroleo, and the original article says it was caused by shipping.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, you seem to be suggesting that animals are dieing around the Falklands due to industry, a lack of compassion and a love for seeing dead animals, but no animals die as a result of Argentine industry.
Perhaps the animals were brutally murdered by the Falklanders, and the ones that they didn't keep as trophies and ornaments were planted off the Argentine coast.....
140 Who cares what you want.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0140 malen
Mar 25th, 2011 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'campos selvas desiertos palmares??'
Since we don't have any of those, we tend to take our 4X4s to deserted beaches, trout rivers and mountains. This is an off- roader's paradise.
Before there were any roads in the camp people travelled everywhere by landrover and it's still a skill that people learn and use.
The tone of your posts is petty and vindictive. Why don't you educate yourself about life in the islands? Your constant rabbiting on about Falkland Islanders all being wildlife murderers is boring and makes you sound like you're about twelve.
Think, as someone living in Chubut, what's your take on the beached whales and oily penguins that wash up on your shores? This study from 2006 http://delfinaustral.com/mar_limpio/publicaciones/Borboroglu_Boersma_etal%20OK%202.pdf suggests that:
Mar 25th, 2011 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The number of oiled penguins reported in their wintering range has greatly increased since the early 1990s and is strongly correlated with petroleum exports from Argentina”
It later says:
“However, in the case of Argentina there are long-term records documenting chronic oil pollution and its effects on penguins along the Chubut coast”
Presumably this is merely Kelper propaganda?
If not, are you as concerned and damning of this as you are of the Falklanders' activities?
Perhaps Malen would care to comment on this too due to her previously expressed environmental concerns.
Regards,
Frase
Team Frase (an Anglo-Argentine organisation)
137 Martin_Fierro
Mar 25th, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They're to blame for the penguins but not the whales.”
Martin,
You should read this:
http://www.falklandsconservation.com/index.html
(144) Frase
Mar 25th, 2011 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As your linked document shows, we South-Americans, as the rest of the world, are waging a battle between economy and ecology.
As millions of others, I’m firmly placed on the ecological front.
But I’m weary of that “Noble Britons can’t do no wrong” / “Brute Argies can do no good” fable that is so in “Vogue” in Malvinas….seemingly becoming established “State Policy”.
One mentions the millions of penguins starving to death in the Islands; they automatically explain it with mysterious “Viruses” or “Red Tides” or whatever……
But………….. not a word about the most obvious.
That the waters around the rockeries have been fished empty.
And the whistleblower gets walloped…………….
One mentions the stranding whales in the Islands, they say it is natural, that there can be zillions of other reasons…….
But………… not a word about the most obvious.
That the waters around the Malvinas have been “carpet bombed” with Seismic Surveys since the 90’s.
And the whistleblower gets walloped…………….
To finish:
About you and others mentioning the stranding of pilot whales on the coasts of Argentina.
I have looked a bit into that……………….Not many historical references or scientific studies around but:
The two biggest strandings ever registered were in 1991 when as many as 200 pilot whales were found beached 20km from Bahia Bustamente and in 2009 when more than 40 beached whales were found on the Bahia Bustamente area.
Curiously enough, 1991 and 2009 were high British Seismic Oil Survey activity years in the Malvinas Zone…..
Bahia Bustamante, Chubut is no further than 800 km from the nearest Malvinas Survey Zone…..
A distance easily covered by a Pilot whale in 4/5 days………
You know what, Think, I think we had pilot whale strandings the years Argentina was carrying out seismic surveys to the north of here;
Mar 25th, 2011 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bgr.bund.de/cln_151/nn_323774/EN/Themen/GG__Geophysik/Marine
I'd never imagined that it could all be your fault, but if you really insist.
Could 40 million Argentinians going to the toilet and flushing into the South Atlantic be part of the problem?
Mar 25th, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Mar 25th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W77IqQW9xzU&playnext=1&list=PL9A48799C81AC96B1
146 – Think
Mar 25th, 2011 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we South-Americans, as the rest of the world, are waging a battle between economy and ecology”
But the Falklands are just waging a battle against ecology?
“I’m weary of that “Noble Britons can’t do no wrong” / “Brute Argies can do no good”
Fair enough, some posters from both sides on these boards seem to have developed the remarkable talent of being able to type with the heads planted firmly in the ground.
But.....
Do your ‘fairplay and objectivity senses’ also tingle when you see posts like Malen’s which effectively say “British kill animals / Argentines are environmentalists”? ;)
I’m guessing not, as the only explanation that you’ve offered for the oiled penguins and beached whales in Chubut is British seismic testing.
Perhaps you could shed some light on seismic testing methods used by Argentina? How is it that when it happens around the Falklands it’s Hiroshimi under the sea, and when it happens in Argentine waters, no animal is harmed?
“About you and others mentioning the stranding of pilot whales on the coasts of Argentina”
I only mentioned it because of your post at 96, where you came running home as fast as you could with your golden ticket to show Grandpa Joe, when on the shores of your province similar things happen. :)
As you know, I live and love in Argentina, Team Frase (i.e. my family) is 2/3 Argentine (well, 1.5/3) and is much more important to me than petty nationalism, so I have no real reason to unduly criticize Argentina, I have no problem with pointing it out when Mercopress demonstrate a pro-British bias, and no problem with pointing out that the damning finger you point at the Islanders, could just as easily be pointed at you.....
Anyway, I hope that you enjoy the long weekend, unless your job is like mine and cares little for public holidays....
Regards,
Frase
P.S. That Australian interview really did make me chuckle (chuckle). I was just waiting for him to say that it's 'pining for the fjords'.
134 malen, “BMW and Mercedes to drive and go where?? between the sheeps the rocks in one important street you may have??? ” HAHAHA
Mar 25th, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“not serious” Is planning to build a new Disneyland with all that water from underground.
They have a few roads, for example the “spine”, it took 12 looong years of construction to reach Port Stephens
“After twelve years of road construction work, the West Falklands 'spine' road has reached Port Stephens. The inhabitants of the south west settlement have had to wait a long time for the road to reach them.”
http://www.falklands.info/background/lifearticle5.html
Re my post in 145, sorry, the link should be:
Mar 25th, 2011 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandsconservation.com/wildlife/penguins/peng-threats.html
Think 146
Re:
“But………….. not a word about the most obvious.
That the waters around the rockeries have been fished empty.
And the whistleblower gets walloped…………….”
You should read the above link, too
(150) Frase
Mar 25th, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 060p of every £ in the Malvinas economy originates from the fishing industry.
Malvinas is for all practical purposes a Squidocracy.
Less than 1.400 voters, easily controlled, especially when the alternative is evil “Arghhhentina”
The parvenus of the fishing industry sit heavily on the economical and political power.
Any criticism against that industry amounts practically to high treason.
Now this “elite” is going after a new “gold calf” (Oil) and they don’t give a Flying Dutchman about some bloody ugly sea mammals.
And to finish….
It goes without saying that Argentinean Seismic Survey killing whales is as bad as British Seismic Survey killing whales.
It goes without saying that Argentinean spilled oil killing penguins is as bad as British spilled oil killing penguins.
Que tengas un buen fin de semana y un abrazo al equipo Frase
El Think
Gracias Think, igualmente.
Mar 25th, 2011 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“derrame de petroleo en atlantico sur ponen a especies en peligro. 1994. explored.com.ec” in google
Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0shell made an oil spill in 1999 Magdalenas shores.
how many drillings and seismic surveys have been made it would be important to know
at least i dont insult monty like many here does
argentina doesnt have money for exploring offshore, and we have oil in the continent that is more easy to take away thats why we cant contaminate so much the sea.
i dont know why the whales were killed but you say you where going to investigate you can call “salvemos a las ballenas” and ask them may be is an unknown cause as you say
The Falklands,as is Gibraltar are British .. Deal with it !! End of,Goodnight :)
Mar 25th, 2011 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0155 malen
Mar 26th, 2011 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0'at least i dont insult monty like many here does' Hmmmm......lets just forget your 'FIG murders penguins' post then, shall we?
I know there are real concerns about the effects on cetaceans of seismic testing. I just don't think it seems very likely in this case, given where the stranding happened in relation to the most recent testing.
I also know that testing in Falklands waters is subject to quite strict controls; slow start up, exclusion zones, trained observers and the rest.
These controls seem to be quite commonplace and acceptable elsewhere. I'm not saying that they are sufficient. But I will say that FIG takes conservation issues seriously and to portray us as wildlife murderers is to do us an injustice.
“argentina doesnt have money for exploring offshore”
Mar 26th, 2011 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I understand that independent exploration companies generally use their money for oil exploration, it doesn't have to cost Argentina anything. Everyone else figured out decades ago that big nationalized industries were a crap idea, try to keep up Argentina.
155 Malen -
Mar 26th, 2011 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure why you're under the impression that there is no offshore drilling in Argentina, but there is.
What are your views on these quotes from the study I linked to in post 144:
“The number of oiled penguins reported in their wintering range has greatly increased since the early 1990s and is strongly correlated with petroleum exports from Argentina”
and
“However, in the case of Argentina there are long-term records documenting chronic oil pollution and its effects on penguins along the Chubut coast”
In relation to your quote at post 123:
“FIG kills whales
FIG kills penguins
FIG kills albatros
FIG kills sealions
FIG kills camarones
FIG kills fish
FIG affects south atlantic environment”
Saludos,
Frase
(158)
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The South Atlantic Oil Expert says:
”Everyone else figured out decades ago that big nationalized industries were a crap idea, try to keep up Argentina.”
I say:
Who teached you that..........???
Your British friends from:Rockflopper Exploration... or Despair Petroleum...or Arghhhos Resources.........???
Is Saudi Aramco a bad idea… or Kuwait Petroleum… or CNOOC (China)… or Petronas (Malaysia)… or Pemex (Mexico)… or Petrobras (Brazil)…. or Statoil (Norway)…or ENI (Italy)… or the other ~30 giant State Oil Companies…………???
Everyone else figured out decades ago that big nationalized industries are the way to go, try to keep up Malvinas……….!!!
@160 Think, you really don't want us to find oil, do you, Cher Think?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you really a conservationist or are you just jealous?
lf found it will certainly change things here, not always a good thing.
FYI(in a friendly way) its “taught”, not“teached”.
83 Marcos Alejandro – Wow, what a f**king idiot!
Mar 26th, 2011 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not accusing you of murdering but there must be an investigation........the ocean is only one and they where a big number 400 thats strange
Mar 26th, 2011 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oil spill of vessels are the most dangerous and many of these travel in our oceans
and there are organizations in arg trying to protect whales like www.icb.org.ar that also are worried about our whales in península de valdes (salvemos a las ballenas was a tv program)
monty im not insulting at least upsetting you
Well Think is Malen wrong then?....
Mar 26th, 2011 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“argentina doesnt have money for exploring offshore”
Why not?
163 -
Mar 26th, 2011 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your list of all of the animals that the FIG is killing seems to be based on:
1 - Offshore oil exploration
2 - Dead whales washing ashore
3 - Oiled penguins
In Argentina there is:
1 - Offshore oil exploration
2 - Dead whales washing ashore
3 - Oiled penguins
So is it therefore fair to say (without trying to justify it by saying that a conservation organisation exists, someone posted a link to the Falklands conservation organisation):
Argentina kills whales
Argentina kills penguins
Argentina kills albatros
Argentina kills sealions
Argentina kills camarones
Argentina kills fish
Argentina affects south atlantic environment
??
If not, why not?
I think it's safe to say a population of 40 million has a larger effect than a population of 3000 on local wildlife, no?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.seabirds.org/
167 - So, presumably then you're hoping that they discover oil, so they can diversify their economy and not have to depend so much on fishing?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0168, IMHO, The rich selfish islands'elite decisions are moving from bad to worse.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK Marcos, give us an example.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And while you're trying to think of one, I have a question for you. It's a genuine one, and I don't know the answer:
FIG, and Falklands Conservation have worked with the fishing industry to develop mitigation measures to stop albatross being killed on longlines.These have reduced albatross mortality from 1 per 2000 hooksto 1 per 200,000 hooks. Does Argentina have a longliner fleet and if it does, does it employ similar measures?
169 - What decisions would you have taken if you were in charge (we'll imagine that there were 3,000 Argentines living there) to achieve equilibrium between economy and ecology?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monty69, Answer to your first questions: Overfishing and/to oil exploration.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you read my link? http://www.seabirds.org/
About your second question, I can't answer why I don't know, but I found something interesting to read:
Argentina
”Aves Argentinas (BirdLife Partner in Argentina) is focusing its seabird conservation work on lobbying the national and provincial government to implement management of fisheries within Argentina's economic exclusive zone. They are putting much effort into improving an on-board observers scheme. They are also involved in important research of the effectiveness of solutions that could be used in longlining fisheries.”
The Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
”The Falkland Islands (Malvinas) are the global stronghold for black-browed albatrosses, where its numbers are decreasing rapidly.
Falklands Conservation (BirdLife Partner in the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)) has developed a national plan of action for trawlers and longliners which the Falkland Islands Government has adopted”
http://www.seabirds.org/
171. Solve the British- Argentinean dispute and go from there.
(170) Monty69
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some Weekend lecture in Spanish.......
ftp://ftp.fao.org/FI/DOCUMENT/IPOAS/national/argentina/NPOA_seabirds_s.pdf
Believe it or not, those cavemen from the other side of the water like their birds tooo.
169 You are so full of s**t but don't worry, you are only one forty millionth of the problem.
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0173 Think, Can you translate that document to English please? :-)))
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jupppppp
Mar 26th, 2011 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give me 10 minutes :-)
:-)
Mar 26th, 2011 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0173 Think
Mar 26th, 2011 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''Some Weekend lecture in Spanish.......''
Yes, it is quite long. And definitely answers my question about the longline fishery in some detail. Quite interesting actually, although I've only had chance to skim read it for a few minutes.
It certainly tells us everything we could possibly want to know about mitigation measures, and it's nice to see some familiar names in the bibliography. Nice to know some people don't think we're all ignorant hicks.
I'd be interested to look again in a couple of years time and see how they're getting on with their action points. It's easy to implement something like that here where you can put an observer on every boat, but in a bigger place it involves a lot more education and persuasion.
I found the maps of species distribution the most interesting; never seen that before.
''Believe it or not, those cavemen from the other side of the water like their birds tooo.''
Yes, that's my whole point. Everybody does; we do, you do, so why not just drop the whole 'Falkland Islanders as wildlife murderers' argument.
Hey, how are those NO-FISHING zones around penguin colonies coming along?
Mar 26th, 2011 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Martin Pillock Head - Fact - the Falklands Fisheries Zone is generally acknowledged internationally as one of the best organised and controlled.
Mar 27th, 2011 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fact - several years ago Falkland Fisheries came up with and developed a method for LongLiners that reduces Albatross Mortality to virtually ZERO. This same method is nor being taken up slowly by othger nations.
Fact - Albatross numbers in the Falklands and South Georgia are INCREASING.
I said penguin colonies, NO-FISHING zones, stop diverting attention.
Mar 27th, 2011 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0(178) Monty69
Mar 27th, 2011 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“Nice to know some people don't think we're all ignorant hicks.”
I say:
No, you are not….. but too many of you choose to bee lulled in a false feeling of superiority feed by self imposed ignorance.
You say:
“It's easy to implement something like that here where you can put an observer on every boat, but in a bigger place it involves a lot more education and persuasion.”
I say:
You do not have “an observer on every boat” in Malvinas.
Besides, the Argentinean and Argentinean licensed boats are now being imposed compulsory CCTV sealed systems and satellital control.
You say:
”Why not just drop the whole 'Falkland Islanders as wildlife murderers' argument.”
I say:
It’s not called “murder” it’s called “colaterall damage”.
As I have written many times in here, the Islands are so dependant from the fishing industry that you people go to extreme lengths to hide and deny it’s true impact on nature.
Dr. Bingham was the perfect example………..
Just look at post No. 180; Islander1 “response” to Martin Fierro’s very specific question about no fishing zones around Penguin rockeries:
1) The usual leading insult
2) “We are the best” asseveration.
3) Something about Albatrosses.
4) More about Albatrosses
Correct me if I’m wrong but even after decades of recommendations from international associations like Birdlife International and many others, you continue fishing nearby the rockeries.
And why?
Because, those are the best fishing spots.
That’s why the bloody penguins are nesting there in the first place!
Think, I haven't the time or energy to discuss the different foraging patterns of various species of penguins, or the differences in diet.
Mar 27th, 2011 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can I direct you to thisto get you started?
http://www.marineornithology.org/PDF/27/27_8.pdf
And while I'm at it, encourage you not to make out that things are simple when they aren't. It was one of 'not Dr'Binghams many failings.
Monty69,
Mar 27th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is forcing you to discuss Penguin foraging patterns with an RG on a bloddy Sunday noon.
I want to encourage you however not to make out that things are as complicated when they aren't.................
A Penguin in a fish empty sea is a dead Penguin………
Period.
That's one of Dr.Bingham’s few but convincing strengths.
Islanders, since you use the penguins to attract tourists, did you exclude large-scale commercial fishing close to penguin breeding sites?
Mar 27th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wildlife in British South Atlantic territory is doing just fine.
Mar 27th, 2011 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think
Mar 27th, 2011 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have no interest in Falklands Conservation or Bingham, except as yet another tool to criticise the Falkland Islanders with.
If Bingham were correct, then the Falkland Islands penguins would now be extinct. As the trial judge who upheld his appeal acknowledged he was the author of much of his own misfortune. And he wasn't 100% honest about his qualifications.
I don't defend what some in the FIG did, plainly they were wrong. But the system worked and ultimately he won his case. And lets be at least honest here, though from past experience with your comments I doubt we shall see any honesty, would Bingham have gained justice in Argentina under the same conditions. Or would crooked back handers have sealed his fate?
The fact is Falklands Conservation is acknowledged as world leaders in certain fields and the Penguin population in the Falklands is healthy and thriving.
183 Monty69,
Mar 28th, 2011 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, and the UK is doing just fine as well.
Give us another one.
187 JustinKuntz,
“he was the author of much of his own misfortune.”
When you fabricate crap like that, try to keep in mind not all of us are as stupid as you, try really hard.
“But the system worked...”
What system?
You have no system, and no accountability. Period.
“world leaders in certain fields” you're even funnier than Monty69
“the Penguin population in the Falklands is healthy and thriving”
What's left of it, what the Brits have decided is a sufficient amount of penguins to entertain the crowds. Well so long as the stupid tourists are happy all is well.
Think, how can anyone not answer an idiot like Martin with some insults.Albatrosses- those are hard facts - things Martin likes to avoid. Penguins - I do not know for sure, but I have no doubt that IF there is evidence of declining numbers as a reseult of nearby fishing activity then restrictions would be imposed in addition to the current coastal proximity ones.
Mar 28th, 2011 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Currently Penguin Numbers seem to be doing pretty well overall. Pockhoppers seem to be always pretty variable - they were even BEFORE fishing started - and all the breeds eat fish anyway! From my limited knowledge rockhoppers are also the most vulnerable to ordinary bad bad weather - get a storm and the little buggers get blown off the cliff-tops out to sea!
Martin- clarify if you can your claim“you have no system and no accountability period”?
as for the “fabrication” - it was not Monty who said that - it was the Judge- you arse! Do try just once and get your facts in order before spouting forth.
Someone is getting angry.
Mar 28th, 2011 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Currently Penguin Numbers seem to be doing pretty well overall.”
Current numbers, exactly.
Martin- clarify if you can your claim“you have no system and no accountability period”?
Not a claim, a fact, you're a bunch of babies who can't be left alone for one second.
“it was the Judge- you arse!”
Proof please, where exactly did you get that nonsense from?
Marvin, how many times has the proof been put before you, the links to original documents and facts, not some one person's opinion, or something created for You Tube; and yet every time you ridicule and deny what is plain for any reasonable person to see?
Mar 28th, 2011 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many times have non-Argentines, from any nation, had any such proof from you? When your weak arguments have been shown to have no substance, or your accusations and assumptions have no basis in fact, how many times have posters asked you repeatedly for actual substantive proof and evidence?
Yet each time you fail to respond, become abusive, or attempt to change the subject, anything it seems is more important than providing proof and evidence that can be substantiated.
Yet you have the affront to demand proof here, again?
You are clearly a madman.
191 Wireless,
Mar 28th, 2011 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0In other words, you are the law, you decide what is a reputable source and what isn't.
“the trial judge who upheld his appeal acknowledged he was the author of much of his own misfortune”
Ridiculous, doesn't even make any sense. I see no proof of such a statement being made. Where the hell did that come from???
Quit making excuses and simply admit that this “statement” was fabricated.
And you're wrong, I do show proof, every time... just because my proof doesn't work in your favor doesn't mean that it isn't valid.
Now where did that statement come from?? Let's have it, experts.
The judge said it in his summing up; I remember it very clearly from the time. I have no idea where you would find 'proof''- certainly nothing online that you could link to, unless back issues of the PN are online.
Mar 28th, 2011 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't even remember when it was and have no inclination to start looking for 'proof' just to satisfy you because quite frankly, Martin, I couldn't give a damn what you think. Your mind, such as it is, is closed and you only believe what you want, regardless of any 'proof'.
“The applicant comes out of this with no credit either. ”It is apparent that in a number of ways he has tried to obscure or mislead and has to a certain extent been the author of his own misfortunes.”
Mar 28th, 2011 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2003/10/31/penguin-news-update
Anyone care to bet whether a certain idiot will have the good grace to apologise.
“and has to a certain extent been the author of his own misfortunes”
Mar 28th, 2011 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol... live it to Mercopress, how the hell could he be the author of his own misfortunes when there are no fishing restrictions in Malvinas??
What a joke... nice try though ;-)
QED what a wanker.
Mar 28th, 2011 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There really isn't any point, is there?
Mar 28th, 2011 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Martin, you are the weakest link. Goodbye.
WIMC (and Mr. Beef of course…….)
Mar 28th, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uuuuuuuppppssss…..
Rockflopper down 5,06% today to 248,75 p
Despair Petrel down 2,65% today to 36,75 p
Arghhhhhhos down 2,06% today to 31,58p
Rumors in the City about Sea Lion’s P90 being downgraded to about 100mmb
Anybody heard them too?
“Oil-soaked rockhopper” Must see pictures
Mar 28th, 2011 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9438000/9438609.stm
Beeeeeef, where are you. Urinehopper update 248.88 -13.25 (-5.06%) :-)))
Correction to post No. 198
Mar 28th, 2011 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where it says:
“Rumors in the City about Sea Lion’s P90 being downgraded to about 100mmb.”
It should read:
“Rumors in the City about Sea Lion’s P10 being downgraded to about 100mmb.”
Please excuse the inconvenience.
Have a good investing week.
What really gets me, is the claim that Bingham fled to Argentina to escape corruption, and yet relied on the Falkland Islands Supreme Court to dispense justice, by Chief Justice James Wood, a role that requires only 10 days per annum presence on the Falkland Islands because of the lack of crime, with most work undertaken via the telephone or email from the UK.
Mar 29th, 2011 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, all Argentine posters and websites ensure that they do not report the comments made by the Chief Justice “The applicant comes out of this with no credit either. It is apparent that in a number of ways he has tried to obscure or mislead and has to a certain extent been the author of his own misfortunes.”, but nevertheless they exist as a part of the judgement.
Does anyone have a copy of the Pengiun News from 21st November 2003, apparently the full judgement may be published within the pages of it. Failing that, the FI Supreme Court will have published the full judgement on or before that date, anyone know whether they publish online?
Not that I care what Marvin believes anymore, it would be nice to have a substantive link available for the actual published full judgement, as future ammunition.
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