One of the strangest ships ever to visit the Falkland Islands this week lay at anchor in Port William after making a hasty departure from FIPASS. Had it not left the dock, an ongoing legal wrangle involving its owners could have caused it to be detained there indefinitely – rendering a significant proportion of FIPASS unusable by other vessels, perhaps for a very long time. Read full article
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I've already spotted a significant design flaw, what happens when the bugger suddenly loses lift and falls into the water. Then you've got 600 square metres of expensive kite and rope tangled in your prop shaft....and no ones going anywhere :(Mar 28th, 2011 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Still this article shows that it is now of urgent importance that the FIG stop dithering and get a proper deep water port facility up and running.
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2, MarcosMar 29th, 2011 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
They both like kites? Two things in common.
Nice thing to have with all that wind coming from Malvinas.
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Well....................................Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Let's see how long our posts No. 4 and 5 are allowed to exist.......
Comment removed by the editor.Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Talking of generalised corruption is unlikely to lead the publisher's into a court room, however making such an allegation against a named indiviual has the potential to be 'Libel' and may leave the publisher open to be sued!Mar 29th, 2011 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You boys just don't think things through, do you?
Yep, I saw the comment and any publisher would remove it as it was distinctly libellous.Mar 29th, 2011 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Chuckle chuckle……….Mar 29th, 2011 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
1) My post No. 4 was carefully worded and not to be ”libellous” no offensive or misleading words where used, anyhow, it was deleted………
2) Darwin Lewis Clifton has been publicly penalized in Britain for his financial misdeeds.
3) I ”seem to remember” several Argentinean politicians and leaders being accused of worst things, without any shadow of proof, by some posters in here.
I don't remember the editor reacting.
Wow, how sensitive! I only said that in the same article they mention a shipping company that commited fraud and Lewis Clifton....well you all know his story in the islands. Nice couple :-)Mar 29th, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Hmm... yeah, I'll tell you what though, that is one interesting ship, here's another photo.Mar 29th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Don't you agree Think? On the ship...
Chuckle ChuckleMar 29th, 2011 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Besides…….: MercoPress has freed itself of any legal or moral responsibility for their user’s comments by stating at the beginning of each comment section:
”Comments do not reflect MercoPress’ opinions. They are the personal view of our users. We wish to keep this as open and unregulated as possible.”
Freedom of speach............................... the British way .......
Here is a closeup, of the ship...Mar 29th, 2011 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
So you're against freedom of speech Think?Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I suppose unless you're on message in Argentina you're not a Peronist and therefore unworthy.
However, if you openly embrace the brainwashing they give you a brown shirt and a flag to wave.
Well... lets try this again, for the third time.Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
2 Marcos Alejandro,
Beluga Shipping and Lewis Clifton have one thing in common: corruption
It is IMPERATIVE that Argentine corruption be known, but don't talk about British corruption… that's just libellous.
Come on Lewis Clifton, quit deleting our posts!!
”Comments do not reflect MercoPress’ opinions. They are the personal view of our users. We wish to keep this as open and unregulated as possible.”Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Maybe they'll just delete you to save themselves time.Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I feel more than a bit uneasy about the use of over-liberal censorship, I can't see that the moderated posts in question have gone against anything in the note above the comments section.Mar 29th, 2011 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I've seen bias and censorship of opposing views in various Argentine leaning sites and groups, and they get (quite rightly) criticized.
18 Wireless,Mar 29th, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Maybe they'll just delete you to save themselves time.
Maybe this site is 100% BRITISH and by deleting me they'll prove my point. ;-)
So, they're business address is in Uruguay, and Think said he spoke to the Uruguayan owner (that pesky Patagonian, always covering up for the Brits) and they're 100% BRITISH?Mar 29th, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You're detective skills are as good as that American Fred guy who spent several cringeworthy posts telling me that I'm Nicodin (as far as I remember, I wasn't even agreeing with him on the thread).
Still, it says EN in the web address, so there's proof that it's run by Brit imposters. If it was really from Uruguay it would surely say UR, or ARJR. Nothing to do with the language at all
You know what's funny? If they had left Marcos comment alone no one would have noticed it.Mar 29th, 2011 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It backfired on them.
I'm not sure that accusing an individual of corruption with absolutely no evidence, in a public place, is a 'point of view'. It's an accusation and is probably libellous.Mar 29th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The implication is that Lewis Clifton is connected with this ship in some way apart from merely being a shipping agent. I'm quite sure that's not what anyone means, but if you do you'd better have a plan. I'd sue you.
Any of you RG's notice what cargo the ship was carrying? Oil exploration still happening just fine it seems.Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
LOL... you'll sue me? If you could hear me laugh...Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
So, it's ok for Mercopress to use the word Corruption against Argentina on this article: http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/28/wikileaks-corruption-rampant-in-argentina-says-us-german-spanish-diplomats
But we the readers are not allowed to use the same word on this one, that's just libellous.
You complete plank. That article is quoting someone else and naming them as a source. It's not libel, it's just reporting.Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
If you express an opinion about someone that has a bearing on the lawfulness of their conduct or their reputation and can't back it up with any evidence, and write that opinion in a public place, then it's libel.
I can call you a plank because you have provided us with the evidence and because being an idiot isn't illegal (although it should be IMHO).
You can't call someone corrupt because that would be illegal and harms their reputation.
And I didn't say I was going to sue you. Keep up.
Nope, accusing an individual of a crime, without a shred of proof is libel.Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Quoting the opinion of a source is not.
But then you judge people by your own standards, just because politicians and corruption are synonymous in Argentina does not mean they are elsewhere.
26 Monty69,Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Who else were you planing to sue? We are the ones making the accusation, plank.
Ever sinde we started commenting on this post our comments have been deleted, they threatened to delete our accounts and threatened to sue... haha
Come on Brits it's just a stupid blog don't be such pussies.
You want to see libel? Look at the comments below every photo of CFK on Mercopress. But that's ok, right? Because it's agains Argentina. ;-)
Chuckle chuckle……….Mar 29th, 2011 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
1) Darwin Lewis Clifton continues to balance on the edge........
2) Ain't he the Alma Mater of the Megalomanic Deep Sea Harbour Project?
3) Ain't he the Golden Boy that convinced ~15% of Malvinas population to invest heavily in South-Atlantic Oil shares?
Carefull Malvineros..... It's a jungle out there!
hmm Insider trading on your own company and you didn't even make a profit or sell your shares.Mar 29th, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Not exactly corruption...so Ja libellous, unless you can prove that buying shares in your own company with your own fortune is corruption :)
Please read the article above!Mar 29th, 2011 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Lewis Clifton of Byron Marine told the Penguin News he had heard rumours
Hey guys he only heard rumours :-)))
I was looking at the Penguin News site, (boring) clicked on the Malvina House link.Mar 30th, 2011 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
”(Malvina is an old Scottish name, once popular in the Falklands, and is unconnected with the Argentine name for the Islands).
Once popular, until 1833 you mean?
Islas Malvinas (Spanish language name): comes from the French sailors who frequented the islands during the 1690s. They came from St. Malo in Brittany, France, so others often referred to them in French as the Malouines.
Everything in the Falklands” is a lie, everything.
More crap, you obviously still don't read what you post :)Mar 30th, 2011 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The FSA accepts that Mr Clifton’s conduct was not deliberate, in that he did
not consider at the time whether the information he was given was inside
information; he was however reckless in that he failed to consider what should
have been a clear and obvious risk that purchasing the shares before the
information was generally available would result in his requiring Byron to
engage in market abuse
”Byron was looking for investment opportunities in the oil and gas sector and
had an existing shareholding in Desire. It wished to increase its shareholding
over the long term and did not seek to realise any profit after the
announcement on 25 February 2008 (which supports the FSA’s conclusion
that Mr Clifton’s conduct was not deliberate).
Mr Clifton did not seek to conceal Byron’s purchases, and he disclosed them
to the chairman of Desire, without prompting, on 8 February 2008.”
he was stupid and amateurish, but certainly not corrupt, making false accusations based on not reading your sources, dear me, you wouldn't make a good journalist :)
Martin, Malvina (as opposed to Malvinas) is an old Scots Gaelic name for girls, since the majority of current inhabitants are descendent of the original Scots and Cornish (traditional Gaelic speaking areas in the UK) settlers, it is no surprise many words of the old country were present.
Educate yourself boy, you might learn something about the islands you heinously covert so dearly rather than spouting trash talk :)
The Malvina house hotel was named after the daughter of the founder. Its that simple.Mar 30th, 2011 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I would imagine the caveat is there on the website as a result of twits from Argentina seizing on the name and making more of it than it is.
Much like Port Louis...Mar 30th, 2011 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@34 Justin, you said it alltwits from Argentina.Mar 30th, 2011 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Uh, Scottish??Mar 30th, 2011 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Once popular, until 1833 you mean?
Others have already demonstrated your stupidity, but i'll add to it i guess.
The Scottish term Malvina comes from folklaw of the celtic bard, Ossian who had a daughter called Malvina. She fell inlove with a warrior called Oscar, he died and Malvina's tears turned purple heather white, It is the reason why Scottish people wear white heather as good luck.
The exact date of the story is unknown, it is thought to be around 600BC. A Few years before the falklands were an issue.
ACTIONMar 30th, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The FSA gave you, Darwin Lewis Clifton (“Mr Clifton”) and Byron Holdings Limited (“Byron”), a Decision Notice on 19 January 2009 that, for the reasons listed below and pursuant to section 123 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (“the Act”), the FSA had decided:
to impose a financial penalty of £59,500 on you, Mr Clifton, for requiring Byron to engage in behaviour which, if engaged in by Mr Clifton, would have amounted to market abuse between 19 November 2007 and 8 February 2008 (“the relevant period”); and
to impose a financial penalty of £86,030 on you, Byron Holdings Limited, for engaging in market abuse in the relevant period in breach of section 118(2) of the Act.
REASONS FOR THE ACTION
Desire Petroleum plc (“Desire”) was founded in 1996 in order to explore for oil and gas in the Falkland Islands. It is a company incorporated in the UK whose shares are quoted on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange (“AIM”). Mr Clifton was a founding director of Desire in 1996 and has been a non-executive director since May 2005 (he was not a director at Desire between November 1999 and May 2005). He is also a director of and shareholder in Byron Holdings Limited (“Byron”), a Falkland Islands incorporated company.
Mr Clifton was aware, by 19 November 2007 at the latest, that Desire was in advanced discussions with another company in relation to an agreement for that company to “farm-in” to Desire’s exploration prospects, i.e. enter into a joint venture drilling arrangement. This constituted inside information. Desire issued an announcement on 25 February 2008 that it had concluded the farm-in agreement (which was still at that stage subject to certain awards and approvals by the Falkland Islands Government). At close of trading on that day Desire shares were worth 46.5p, a rise of around 36% on the price at close of the previous trading day.
Mr Clifton directed Byron to purchase shares in Desire on fo
Yes,Marcos, everyone knows this. Do you have anything new to add?Does it have anything to do with this article?Mar 30th, 2011 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
No. and no, I suspect.
Thanks, you've cheered me up again today with another laughable show of ignorance. The name 'Malvina' existed long before you lot turned it into a swear word. Look it up in Wiki if you don't believe me.
Yes well done More crap, now would you mind reading paragraph 2.5 out loud please :)Mar 30th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You do know that what you have posted isn't the conclusion is it? Or even where the phrase corruption is used :)
I doubt you even know what you're posting :) because you're absolutely clueless, you just post this stuff, because it might make us brits feel Bad, trouble is you don't read it and it makes you look like an utter tool.
So ja More crap, spouting people are corrupt when clearly the FSA judgement couldn't be further from such an allegation, and is libellous.
Well done yet again for proving absolutely nothing other than the fact your braincells couldn't even power a microwave made for fleas :)
One year later, will he tell the islanders what he knows?Mar 30th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Lewis Clifton won't tell me how much oil he thinks there may be. But it's clear he's banking on a bonanza. Mr Clifton is the managing director of Byron Marine, one of several British and Falkland Islands companies involved in the exploration.
34 JustinKuntz,Mar 31st, 2011 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You're full of shit, it's that simple.
Malvinas come from 'Malouines', it's French not Scottish you ignorant clowns. Get your head out of that sheep's ass you live in and learn something.
:-)))))Mar 31st, 2011 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Oh dear is Martin having a little tantrum :) doesn't like the truth?Mar 31st, 2011 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You really are a clueless idiot aren't you Martin, when the truth doesn't fit your narrative of the world....whine like a little bitch and hurl abuse at those around.
PS numbnuts, we were talking about the word MALVINA, not MALVINAS, suddenly putting an S at the end doesn't suddenly make it a bastardised version of a French name, its like me putting hausen at the end of every English word and then saying its German, doesn't make it German....tool!
Clearly your as clueless about your own mother tongue as about your incestuous obsession with the Islands.
I don't think even your conspiracy theories involving the dolphin people and Darwin Clifton could extend back to the Gaels :)
Only a dumbass can argue a point he's already been proven wrong on.Mar 31st, 2011 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
www.cecim.org.ar/noticias/verNoticia.asp?Id=600Mar 31st, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
or search in google Hotel Malvina: la importancia de los nombres
in 1830 in Malvinas was borned the daughter of Vernet
clueless idiot, little bitch, numbnutsMar 31st, 2011 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I'm having a tantrum?
Sorry... Malvinas come from 'Malouines', it's French not “Scottish”.
That's it. ;-)
What's your explanation for it being used as a name by a Scottish writer in 1762?Mar 31st, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
http://www.babynames.it/girlname/Malvina-meaning.htmlMar 31st, 2011 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I could continue but i think i've made my point.
eeeer no Martin, I was stating a matter of fact, you do whine like a little bitch :)Mar 31st, 2011 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Where did we say Malvinas is Scottish? We quite accept that the word Malvinas comes from the Breton name Malouines (ironically Breton is a form of old Gaelic LOL!)
However we are talking about the word MALVINA, you know the Malvina house house hotel? The one you had a little hissy fit about back up in 32? And suddenly thought that because of its similarities it must therefore be referring to the islands? and thus the product of some grand conspiracy XD
I shall remind you:
”I was looking at the Penguin News site, (boring) clicked on the MALVINA House link.
”(Malvina is an old Scottish name, once popular in the Falklands, and is unconnected with the Argentine name for the Islands).
As you can clearly see there is the removal of the letter S”, so by removing S from MALVINAS it becomes a totally different word, completely unconnected in any way to the word MALVINAS, its just a mere coincidence that the Anglicised spelling of an ancient Gaelic name, happens to be similar to the Iberianised spelling of a Breton name.
You really are pretty dense if you have not yet figured that out yet :)
par example (an example more suited to your clearly lower standards of intelliegnce) - OOOH look your name Martin is like the word the word Martian but with the word a removed, must you therefore be from the planet Mars? Because of the eeeer....similarities between the two names?
Of course not Thick Arse!
Catch up martin, the rest of humanity has already stop walking around on their knuckles :)
(ironically Breton is a form of old Gaelic LOL!)Mar 31st, 2011 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
To be pedantic, no it isn't. Breton is like Welsh and Cornish from the Brythonic branch of Insular Celtic languages, whereas the Gaelic languages are from the Goidelic branch of Insular Celtic languages.
Correct you are Dab, I got ahead of myself there :) Bretons are descended from the Cornish and Britonic emigration there.Apr 01st, 2011 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Still ironic though when you think about it, that the name Malvinas (As opposed to MALVINA - in case poor little Martin gets confused again XD) holds its origins from the British isles :)
The first MALVINA (without s) was argentinian, Malvina Vernet, born in MALVINAS in 1830, his father was the gobernador of Malvinas also argentinianApr 01st, 2011 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
”The first MALVINA (without s) was argentinian, Malvina Vernet, born in MALVINAS in 1830, his father was the gobernador of Malvinas also argentinian”Apr 01st, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Ossidans story of his daughter malvina was from 1762. So you are quite wrong.
First Malvina in MalvinasApr 01st, 2011 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The argument is on the origin or the name, and you are like you Argentinian friends, wrong.Apr 01st, 2011 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Malvina Of Scotland (daughter of King Donald II and Princess Of Scotland) was born 920 in Scotland, and died Dec-06-940 in Scotland. She married Constantine MacGregor in Scotland, son of Dougallus MacGregor and Princess Spontana.
Oh look, more proof that you're wrong.
I am not talking about the origen of the name. First Malvina in MALVINAS ISLES was the daughter of VERNET the gobernador of the Malvinas Isles because the isles were ours till the pirates came and took them ilegally.Apr 01st, 2011 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
For Isolde that is always saying the isles were never argentinian.
Then your comment is useless, None of us are debating that. Read the thread.Apr 01st, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Well……………Apr 01st, 2011 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I Think this debate has been extremely valuable.
It has definitively established, once and for all, that from now on, the aforementioned Islands should be forever called Malvinas.
Which person in its sane mind would ever Desire to name those South-Atlantic Crown Jewels after an old, ugly, gout ridden, long forgotten, inbreeded 5th Viscount of Falkland?
Instead of Malvina,……….. that Celtic protectoress of laws, immortal character from Scottish poet James Macpherson’s beloved masterpiece “Ossian” !
MALVINAS IT IS CHAPS……
Thanks for your invaluable research :-)
You wind-up merchant, youApr 01st, 2011 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The thread of this article was the oil, then anyone can talk of everything here .......and this is very important because demostrates we owned them before you took them, that there was authority, that there was a government supporting, that we had integrity with the mainland, that there was born argentinians before you came .......Malvinas were and are oursApr 01st, 2011 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I will make sure to take some spray paint or a black marker next time, to add an S to that Malvinas hotel. I bet every single tourist that visited or stay in this hotel raise the same question, and the several spanish speaking staff there, I bet believes that the reason is because Malvinas(Argentinas of course) is the real and only name of the islands.Apr 02nd, 2011 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@57, Malen, the lslands were NEVER Argentine.!Apr 02nd, 2011 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@59, lt's inbred, Cher Think, not inbreeded, told you that your spelling & grammar was giving you away. But your English is quite good.
(63) IsoldeApr 02nd, 2011 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I’ll write it 100 times on the blackboard.
Inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred, inbred,…………………
Now I’ll always remember who “taught” me :-)
A friendly advice:
Español, señor, niño, año etc. are words better avoided if you aren’t able to type the Spanish “Ñ”.
It doesn’t sound good… especially the last one :-)
So…. About Post 59…. We do agree that, from now on, we call them Malvinas…….. Right?
Cher Think, you can call our lslands what you like. lf it makes you feel better then call them, malvinas. But their real name is the Falklands. Yes, l know that some Spanish n's have that squiggly little snake on the top, but my keyboard doesn't have that letter so l have to type an n.Apr 02nd, 2011 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Filipino has a similar sound to the Spanish but they write it as ng.
Perhaps you Spanish speakers would like to humour me and write ng instead of.......................no? thought not!
(65) IsoldeApr 02nd, 2011 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Malvinas by International consensus then.......
About the missing Ñ
Easy mon cher…........................
Asuming you have a standard British keyboard......
1) Just hold down the “Alt Gr” key and then press the” ~” key (beside the “Enter” key)
2) Now, press the “n” key and ………. Voila!......... A Nice Spanish “ñ”
I've always found one of the biggest problems for native English speakers (myself included) speaking Spanish, is mixing up masculine and feminine.Apr 02nd, 2011 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I'm always careful when sharing a bbq with friends from Spain to not comment on how much I like 'la polla', especially after saying how many 'anos' I have!
Regarding the naming of the Falklands/Malvinas/Frase Islands, is it really that important that everyone calls them by the same name?
It doesn’t sound good… especially the last one :-)))))) AñoApr 02nd, 2011 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There's another way, hold ALT then type 164 and let ALT go.
That's a big kite its a shame because it wont be flying there for too long unless it has the Argentine flag on it. English pirates searching for oil but for how long?.Apr 02nd, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They will search until they either find oil or not, then the search will end and extraction takes place until its all gone, hope that helps you.Apr 02nd, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@68 Thank you Marcos, try that one, Think. ññññ-l've found a new toy.Apr 03rd, 2011 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You are welcome, I am glad that you are having fun with ñ, very useful in the future...you know :-))Apr 03rd, 2011 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
(71) IsoldeApr 03rd, 2011 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Happy you found a new toy; a squiggly Spanish little snake :-)
@73 Think, you are a naughty boy sr Think!Apr 03rd, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Does the Malvinas Hotel... I mean Malvina Hotel have wi-fi?Apr 03rd, 2011 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Just rearranging your very own words…………….................... Girl.Apr 03rd, 2011 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
75 Martin, About your question about the MalvinaS Hotel.Apr 03rd, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They have it ...but they are not sure what is for.