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Unasur leaders letter to Ban Ki-moon in support of Argentina’s Malvinas claim

Saturday, April 2nd 2011 - 20:09 UTC
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Unasur (Union of South American Nations) leaders sent UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon a letter dated April 2 in support of Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Falklands Islands. Read full article

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  • Wireless

    Pfft!

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    like all masturbators , one day you will have to come [all the way]
    if you want excitement you will have to come and play ??

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    2 briton
    Not be so grumpy, man! The time is running out for you!!! Sorry!!!

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Kiwisarg grumpy na
    not so it should have been people who swing their arms, just came out wrong.
    time is running out for you also sorry

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol @ failing Brittainistan

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    Briton take care, your country prefer to spend money in libia, that financiate jobs of your own country, you should fell shamed about that, your country is always saying the bad things about argentina but you are so stupid that you dont realized they are hiding information to you or you are so dumb to see that

    Apr 02nd, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    UNASUR, not just Argentina.

    That is the message of this article.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nerosaxo

    I write letters to Santa Clause too!

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    8 nerosaxo,

    You must be what... six? Go back to bed and shut up.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    It costs nothing to ask for legitimacy.
    The UN might sensibly pass the letter to the ICJ for action, but everybody knows this is a Remembrance Day/election year going-through-the-motions sort of letter.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Geoff,

    I must conclude then, than you don't believe what I told you is true. That it is the Argentine people that expect the president to be defensive of the nations's sovereignty, at all times.

    If you had watched CFK's speech yesterday at Rio Gallegos, you would have heard people from the crowd shouting “LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS!”. It wasn't until the president heard these words that she replied with the same words, she was actually talking about what the city was like during the war, not about the sovereignty issue.

    I get it, you like your version better, but you're wrong. If the president were to forget, we would remind her.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Let us delve into ancient history: http://en.mercopress.com/2000/09/04/support-for-argentine-claim

    Same old Argentina, same old rhetoric, same old rhetoric, same old Latin American countries sponsoring Argentina's claim in return for trade deals and easy bi-lateral relations :)

    I did find this gem though :) http://en.mercopress.com/2000/09/04/support-for-argentine-claim

    10 years old I know, but it would be interesting to see the results conducted now, I would ask if an intelligent Argentine (I think only Think qualifies here) could direct me to a recent similar survey I would be most obliged.

    Thank you.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nerosaxo

    @Martin_Fierro
    Make that 66 old son. I was just making the point that the letter was as much use as that of a child writing to Santa Clause.'If wishes were horses, beggars would ride'.
    De Jure and De Facto the Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory by the choice of the inhabitants and will remain so until THEY decide otherwise. QED

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (13) Nerosaxo

    Boy boy boy......................................

    So young and already hosting that nasty old German in your head…………….............................................................. (Hr. Alzheimer)
    I remember perfectly, Santa responding to my letters and my wishes….
    He didn’t always follow the script but even a little kid can understand that reindeer are not so strong.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fred

    Why don't Falklands claim independence from United Kingdom? Maybe what really annoys Unasul is not the Falklands but the United Kingdom in South America. Falklands with South Georgias and South Sandwich Islands altogether could form a new country. They could even join the blocks Unasul and Mercosul since they've got a plenty of oil.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nerosaxo

    And which nast old German is in your head........................Eichman, Mengeles?
    I am afraid Ban Ki-moon will not be able to follow the script either. The Servicemen who rest at Blue Beach and their friends will give testament to Argie deceit.QED

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    What a waste of paper that letter is. Reply from Mr Ban will probably be, “I will make an office available, attendance optional”.

    Yet another pointless exercise.

    Kiwi - time! We have all the time we want, and nothing Argentina or the guesture of support you get from your neighbours will change anything. If you think it will then go and take your medication.

    Searinox - Libya! That would be the UK as a partner with many other nations implementing a security council resolution? Is the fact that we stopped a potential massacre something we should be ashamed about? Unlike Argentina is we see a problem and want to do something about it we go ahead and do something. Unlike Argentina we don't just talk about it and pretend our words have any relevance.

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Back to the same old crap then,
    the argentines take offence over us, but we must not take offence over them, if you do not like being insulted, then dont insult us, comprendy

    Apr 03rd, 2011 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Ooooh dear.....the UN will be very angry with us, they might even send us a letter telling us how angry they are.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    @15 Fred
    The Falkland Islands & SGSSI are two separate British Overseas Territories, why not add St Helena, Tristan de Cunha, and Ascension while you're at it?

    Just because Argentina makes a false claim to more than one British Overseas Territory, does not mean that the UK and Falklanders have to satisfy the needs of the Southern Cone by adding them together.

    Besides, the Argentine claim to the Falkland Islands is based on the Big Lie invented in the 1930s-40s by Juan Peron (who admitted it was just a means to unite the people), and his Peronists, and completely ignores the fact that a Treaty of 'Perfect Relations' was signed by Argentina in 1850, ending their claim to the islands.

    We've yet to see any evidence that Argentina has any valid claim to SGSSI, and won't be holding our breath that anything verifiable will ever appear.

    Argentina does have the opportunity to take the matter to the ICJ, but fails to do so, why? Perhaps they are not as confident that the propaganda will stand legal scrutiny.

    External coercion by Unasur, Mercosur, OAS, or Argentina, even to the point of setting some sort of time limit on the Falklanders to exercise their Self Determination is illegal, it impinges on the Islanders Human Rights. When the Islanders decide they wish to exercise their rights they will, and they don't need to do so to please anyone, either in South America, or the UK.

    At the end of the day, it matters not one iota that the status quo 'annoys' anyone outside the Falkland Islands, such annoyance is irrelevant.

    As regards trading partners, I suspect being a part of the European Union, and Commonwealth of Nations, is more attractive to the Falklanders than trading with the Southern Cone, and joining Mercosur or Unasur would be more likely to restrict Free Trade with the rest of the World.

    I'm sure that when they have a Commercially viable Hydrocarbon Industry they will consider exercising their right to Self Determination, and the options, give it time, relax.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    Don't worry about the Falklands, here a fun movie..

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/watch-inside-job-wall-street-horror-movie-free-0

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Here is another one... sorry Fido it's in Spanish.

    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYlQpmJEuso
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYlQpmJEuso

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    I'm so pleased to see Unasur expressing the “strong support to the legitimate rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas, Georgias del Sur and Sandwich del Sur Islands”.

    All you Argentines should be very pleased with that letter. Perhaps you could each have a copy, frame it and hang it in a place of honour on your walls.

    I wonder who drafted that letter? A very clever person. Notice that bit about 'legitimate rights'? Trouble is you don't have any legitimate rights to the territories mentioned. You are just evil, land-grabbing colonial invaders with delusions of grandeur. I'll bet Ban Ki-moon has a drawer in one of his filing cabinets marked 'More Argentine crap'. And that's where this letter will go. You people should have more consideration for the ecology of the planet. How many trees did you cut down to make the paper for this garbage?

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    If I were Ban Ki-Moon, I would simply reply.

    “Take it to the ICJ, that is what its for. ”

    Now go away and stop whining.

    Oh wait, Argentina won't go there as it doesn't want its claims examined too closely.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    “How many trees did you cut down to make the paper for this garbage?”

    lol

    The crap you'll find on this blog is just unbelievable.

    You want to talk about Europe's role in the decimation of its forests? And subsequent decimation of the American forests?

    Think twice before you jump on that boat, cute little airplane.

    “When the Europeans decimated the forests and animal populations in coastal areas, they knew they could simply move farther inland. This attitude of the earliest colonist, now sometimes referred to as a frontier mentality, continued to exert a major influence on the American development for the next 400 years.”

    ”The forests in particular were seen not just as a resource to be exploited, but also as a nuisance and fearful place to be eliminated: They were dark, and they sheltered savages and wild beasts. Accordingly, the forests were cleared to make agricultural fields and gardens. The once wild land was cultivated, as most of the land of Europe had been for many centuries (or even millennia).“

    http://books.google.com/books?id=xBGffKNfsq8C&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=europe+decimation+of+forests&source=bl&ots=5IpFadMTJT&sig=9eddVdctUvGiToKI-xgR2NfhpwA&hl=en&ei=5dmZTf6LLMfTiAK-mtTwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

    ”savages and wild beasts” hahaha...

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nerosaxo

    For ”savages and wild beasts” read......ARGIES

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Really? That's your comeback?

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    I don't know why some take the trouble to discuss and argue here, and call each other names. Absolutely senseless.
    nerosaxo, (26#) thanks, you're a brick. fred (15#) Oil? Perhaps...Others believe that 'odds are about the same as a flutter on the greyhounds'. But have a look at ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/8426244/Why-you-should-avoid-Falkland-Islands-oil-explorers.html

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    A letter!!!!!? Wow things are getting serious.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Martin,

    It is time for us to lock horns over 20W-80W.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    Geoff, I don't know what you're talking about.

    Apr 04th, 2011 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    20W-80W = British Antarctic Territories (BOT).

    Apr 05th, 2011 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    The English prime minister Cameron apologised to the Pakistani people for causeing the Kashmir conflict.Cameron admitted that England was the cause of many of the Worlds problems.Truly an extraordinary admission about the colonialist past of the English.As they become ever more insignificant and growth becomes a distant memory expect more of these moments of apology by the English.as with the Nazis the Germans were the ones who teached reality first unlike Austrians and Czech collaborators.Our peripheral friends on here are similarly unrepentent for their savagary and also are similarly inconsequential

    Apr 05th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nerosaxo

    Translate into The Queen's English........Please!

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    so you can't understand English quizas es la hora de aprender ESPANOL

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin_Fierro

    32,
    The UK doesn't have any “BOT” in the Antarctic.

    Argentina does.

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    nerosaxo,
    O gara is doing his best in a foreign language.
    I would struggle if Mercopress specified Spanish.
    Give a bit of leeway, after all some of us brits struggle with the English sometimes!
    Geoff.

    Martin,
    BOTs are all over the world.
    That's what comes of having had an empire and realising early the retention value of EEZs.
    :-)

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @35, nothing wrong with the words you used.....just trying to work out what you mean is a bit more tricky, reads a lot like a load of bollocks to me.

    @36, You're right, Britain doesn't have a BOT in the Antarctic....The Falkland Islands however are not in the Antarctic...Ah yes, and what's the British Overseas Territory that Argentina has in the Antarctic?.....fool.

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    @36
    Poor logic and sentence construction Marvin, the UK has a BAT in the Antarctic.

    Unless you've invaded again overnight, and it is so far unreported in the World Media, I don't think Argentina is the Administering Power of any UK BOT, certainly none recognised by the UN.

    The only 'BOT' that I think Argentina had control of anywhere in the South Atlantic or Antarctic regions in modern times was back in 1982, when they were used so effectively to shit in a Post Office in Stanley, Falkland Islands. This is probably what you are referring to.

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    Dear UN, it is us the Government of Argentina, can you tell those nasty little Englanders to negotiate with us for the those Island's called the Malvinas please. respectfully yours, The prominent people of Argentina and its Government.

    Dear prominent people of Argentina and its goberment. NO, and can you tell us all where the Malvinas are please as we have looked at the map of the world and can only see some islands called the Falklands quite a few miles from the coast of Argentina that has nothing to do with Argentina. Respectfully yours the UN.

    Apr 06th, 2011 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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