The Falkland Islands has nominated an Islander as new Director of Mineral Resources who will be taking over from Phyl Rendell when she retires as the end of the year, announced the government of the Islands. Read full article
Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant.
I suppose that being Daddy Bill's son doesn’t hurt ;-)
I remember when that lady Monty69 and that sheep farmer West Is Best told me that she retired already??
Monty69”And West is right. Phyl Rendell just retired:-)))))
The Falkland Islands has nominated an Islander as new Director of Mineral Resources who will be taking over from Phyl Rendell when she retires as the end of the year
Mr. Luxton was offered the post following interviews conducted by the Falklands’ government.”
Interview:
Do you like Fish and oil?
Yes
Do you hate wildlife?
Yes
Great, you are hired! In a few months you can join The New Island Conservation Trust as well.
Please Mr.Think, don´t talk about nepotism, it´s not necessary and it´s not their fault to be an endogamic society with ultra little choices if they want an islander to fill the post.
The endogamical situation is not their fault, blame status quo and british political interference in south atlantic; but not those poor squatters that are doing their best effort.
An endogamic society is the opposite of an heterogamic society.
An heterogamic society plus an hiperproteical diet and you have an explosive result: argentines & uruguayans, canadians, australians, yanks and a few more.
An endogamic society plus an hipovitamin diet you have kelpers.
Here in this forum the difference is clear.
In one side you have fear, intransigence, siege mentality, prejudices, lack of ideas.
In the other you have brain cells working and alternatives & ideas for peace and development.
Unfortunately kelpers are paying for the consequences of the conflict because of british presence in south atlantic, the cost is not cheap, you can measure it in money and in human development.
In one side you have fear, intransigence, siege mentality, prejudices, lack of ideas.
They are stealing our oil,they are firing rapiers,Malvinas son argentina,we will never give up our claim,kelpers squaters,gringos ,they are our islands
19 Well if thats the case then you need to engage your collective brain cell a bit harder and come up with something different. Because your current ideas are totally unacceptable.
@19 Argentina wants peace and development? that's rich, I nearly fell of my chair laughing...so how do you reconcile these laudable aims with your next paragraph:
Unfortunately kelpers are paying for the consequences of the conflict because of british presence in south atlantic, the cost is not cheap, you can measure it in money and in human development.
British presence is not an impairment to peace and development, be serious now, does Britain really threaten anyone down here? of course not (except in some paranoid Argentinain minds). The only thing impairing peace & development in the South Atlantic is you, the Argentinians.
That's lovely Billy. What I'm seeing on your side is ignorance and bigotry, and the application of double standards.
Can I refer you to countless posts by Argentines complaining that only 40- something percent of the population of the Falklands were born here.
If that is the case, then WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY THEY WERE BORN? I'll tell you......Chile, St Helena, UK, Russia, Argentina, France....and I'm just talking about the people I know.
However, if you do have 'alternatives & ideas for peace and development', I'd love to hear what they are because all I'm seeing right now is persecution.
You'll need to drop the 'all Kelpers are stupid' routine though. It just makes me want to staple things to your head, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
We're subject of a constitutional monarchy. Don't over exaggerate. This whole argument about how people get the high influence jobs in each country is pointless as both countries are as bad as each other. We, Britain, have a Prime Minister who is a distant relative of our queen and Deputy Prime Minister who is related to another Royal Family. You, Argentina, have a President who was married to the last President. Each country has it's own establishment.
I've noticed when reading through all of these articles on here that the arguments are usually over which country is the best. When usually both countries have similar faults. It is pathetic. Argentines, accept that corruption is rife within your country and instead of arguing that it isn't seek to improve it. Brits, accept that our country has it's own problems which we need to sort out.
Kelpers are politically stupids, sorry; they are paying and suffering the consequences of the conflict while britain collects all the benefits.
My idea for peace & development is well known in this forum. Ask your colonial masters (Britain) to leave south atlantic while you ask Argentina to accept your selfdetermination and independence. Offer Argentina the Queen´s head while you demand for your freedom. Britain is the alien factor in south atlantic. Argentines & kelpers need to find a way to leave in peace, but tango is for two, britain is the conflictive factor.
Whats all the benefits Billy?
And if The Falkland Islanders accepted your idea what has your remarkable brain cell come up with in connection with South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands?
Seems to me your idea of peace and development is everybody else just agreeing with whatever you want. Here's some advice - it aint gonna happen.
You talk about SS & SG but previously you asked what are the benefits....you answer yourself the question. Britain benefits are to stay in south atlantic at kelpers & argentine cost.
Don´t worry about SS & SG situation, if Britain leave, as I think it would happen sooner than later, SS & SG situation would be a bilateral issue between kelperland and argentina.
MercoPress cleansed version:
Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant. He will be resigning his consultancy roles.
Original version:
Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant, mainly working alongside BHP Billiton (BHP) and Falklands Oil and Gas (FOGL). Upon taking up the post Mr Luxton will resign his consultancy roles.
@ Rectifying Madness (25)
You are correct. The aruguements in here has come down to Britain vs Argentina. Everyone (including myself) has lost sight of the real reason for the debate. Argentina's complete dislike of Britain is clear and the British and Islander posters (again including myself) retaliate with equally xenophobic statements.
But this loss of sight reassures me, the Argentine posters seem to have started to realise the error's in their interpretation of history and the governance of the Falklands.
And it is very hypocritical for the Argentine's to scream nepotisism, you just have to look at their Current President. But Argentina is hyprocracy personified. Whoops, more xenophobia!
31 Could be just the lighting but I'm sure he'll appreciate your kind concern.
No denying though, that Kirchner has a face like a bag of spanners. A few medicals too many perhaps?
Britain benefits are to stay in south atlantic at kelpers & argentine cost. No, dickweed, it isn't costing the Falklanders anything. It may be costing Argentina something. Credibility.
Don´t worry about SS & SG situation, if Britain leave, as I think it would happen sooner than later, SS & SG situation would be a bilateral issue between kelperland and argentina. That's a joke, right? You are talking about a bilateral issue between Argentina and a country that it refuses to accept has the right to self-determination. You must think that Britain and the Falklands are as stupid as you are.
Here's what would happen if Britain were to decide to ignore the Islanders and pull out. About 2 days later Argentine forces would arrive to enforce the Falklands position as part of one of Argentina's provinces. Every facet of Islander life would turned upside down and every necessary step taken to ensure that they conform. Argentines would arrive en masse to buy up land at knockdown prices because any title to land obtained under British rule would be declared invalid. Schools, if allowed to remain, would be staffed by Argentine teachers to ensure that only the Argentine version of history was taught.
Dream on. Go back to the haze in which you live your life.
28 So Billy Boy what are all the benefits?
Spell em out, there's a good fellow.
You must have some idea otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned all the benefits. What do you think they are?
Surfing the Internet I just found this one…….. Interesting!........ Isn’t it?
20.12.2007
”Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
Allow me to introduce you the turnip of the month...Mr.Raurie Crogwell clap clap clap
My dear turnip of the month Best Picture Oscar can only be achieved by english spoken movies.
I will give an scoop my dear turnip of the month: argentine movies are spoken in spanish, so they can´t be awarded with the Best Picture Oscar, they only compete in Foreign Language Films category.
At Post No. 39 I present unquestionable, irrefutable and categorical evidence that MercoPress is being paid by the FIG to; i quote: “Putting information about the Falklands into Latin America”
Where are all the Brutish posters claiming MercoPress to be an independent News agency and a beacon of freedom and truth?
I repost No. 39:
”20.12.2007
Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
Not very good at recognising emotion are you Billy, if we were afraid we wouldn't be here in the Falklands. What you see in our posts is scorn....with a dash of contempt.
45 Well Billy it has to be said old son if he's turnip of the month you're cabbage of the year.
47 I think I can say without fear of contradiction that it was more exciting the first time. See 43.
i love brutish....they´re really funnny, every house should have one at home just for fun :)
Dont you mean every container, the new Argie tv show a container in the country :-))))
The AFIP revenue agency (AFIP) has uncovered a new case of exceptionally poor working conditions on an olive grove in San Juan province, where 143 workers were reported to be living inside rusty containers.
60, i say ”is very funny have a brutish in your place (JUST FOR FUN)
you say Well we're having fun in the Falklands
We know Malvinas is our place and full of you brits guys are there....
let me share something interesting about Freudian slip definition
A Freudian slip, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious (dynamically repressed) wish, conflict, or train of thought”
I would help if one told us the link think, in the mean time I shall downgrade your accusations to having the need to make a big deal category.
Me thinks Argentines don't like not having the monopoly on interpreting the Falklands, makes them insecure about the whole we have sovereignty over them argument, you obviously can't have sovereignty if evil Falklands controlled news outlets are saying otherwise.....D'oh!
44.......Eeer Billy Fail, no it isn't......You ever heard of Crash? Done in FIVE languages other than English, Slumdog Millionaire...in Hindi...Schindlers List....no spoken English at all haha....the list goes on :)
Your made up criteria also suggests that An Argentine film (provided it is done in English) could win.....LOL nice one nugget :) Thanks for proving my point.......AGAIN :)
You really are a twad of the highest order....give yourself a pat on the back and award yourself Turnip of the month....although I beg to differ, Turnips have a far higher IQ, toilet bowl of the month is far a closer comparison to you...tee hee :D
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Wooow... Seems to be that Turnips in here havn' t learn to GOOGLE!
They don't like Youtube nor Wikipedia either.
They seem to prefer the Encyclopedia Britannica and the morse telegraph :-)
Here is the link you where incapable of finding, Sassenach......:
Falklands - General Purposes Committee Report
Falkland Islands News Network 20.12.2007
Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
.....well obviously, since they're still here doing just what they were doing before.
And bless them, whoever's paying. Where else do you get the chance to hear people like you spout complete blx in a public place and let the whole world see why we don't want to be Argentine. I'd even chip in a few quid myself.
Until today, any Argentinean commenting about the obvious Anti Argentinean Bias on MercoPress was called a “Paranoid” and/or a “Conspiracy Theorist” by you, people…………………….
Now, finnaly you are sincere and say: ”I'd even chip in a few quid myself.”
I didn't say they were unbiased, because that would be naive and stupid. There is no media outlet in the entire world that is unbiased.
I did say they weren't British, and they aren't.
What entertains me most is you all getting your panties in a twist at the thought of Falkland Islanders having a voice in South America. If we are all as ignorant and stupid as you think, then what's your problem?
That would indeed be wrong. I think what they were paying for, even if everything you say is true, was advice about how to get their message across.
Falkland Island stories on Mercopress generally come from SeAled PR or John Fowler, who are credited and paid the going rate, and are nothing to do with FIG. It's not propaganda; it's news. The fact that it isn't the news you want to hear is your problem.
There are plenty of places you can go to read about how beastly the British are and how stupid and benighted the Kelpers are. If that kind of propaganda is your bag then why don't you go there.? I wouldn't mind betting that El Malvinense gets a few quite backhanders from the Argentine government
Why then paying a media outlet to spread their propaganda in a secret location 2000 km away in Montevideo and not from the source in Stanley?
To make your government propaganda look real and mislead readers about any real support in mainland South America.
Monty, kelpers has the right to spread their voice, so why don´t they liberate PNews for all at internet, o why don´t they use Sartma? why don´t they use a local media agency as all countries do?
But no, they use an independent news agency, for Mercosur issues based in Montevideo. Funny, isn´t it??
@68 & @71
Thats a corner you're backing into right there Marvin.
Argentina declares FIG is a non-Government and won't recognise or talk to it, but you accuse FIG of actually being a Government and paying MercoPress to put its side of the story in South America.
So lets be clear here Marvin, you independently recognise that FIG is the actual elected Government of the Falkland Islands; progress at last.
A word of warning though Marvin, don't go taking any free helicopter rides over the sea when your Government offer this to you, unless you've packed your water wings.
Neither of you seem to have a clue about how these things work.
FIG produce press releases every week, as do lots of other organisations within the islands, and around the world.
Agencies such as Mercopress then decide if the stories would interest their readership.They then either write their own stories or commission someone else to do it.
You pair can't get over the fact that there is someone who can't be bullied into peddling the Argentine line. Dry your eyes, princesses. Not everyone agrees with you.
And you can stop going on about our government's 'propaganda'. You're the ones who read propaganda texts to schoolchildren.
The PN has a tiny circulation and has to sell copies to survive. Sorry, but there it is. It isn't a mouthpiece of FIG. You'll have to pay if you want to read it. I understand that the radio news is online and free. I don't know where and wouldn't listen to it myself.
....his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and Mercopress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media
Monty, This article proofs what we already knew.
From his earliest days as president, Mr. Kirchner tried to keep media critics quiet by using the government's publicity budget to reward supporters and starve those outlets that dared to print criticism. It was an effective tool in an economy on life support, where advertising had dried up.
. Kirchner and her husband have decided that they lost because of bad press coverage. They are especially upset with the Clarin media company, which though once a supporter, is now an outspoken critic. In public comments Mr. Kirchner often implies that the government is analyzing the company to see if it might not need to be downsized. In September, tax authorities launched a raid on the Buenos Aires offices of its daily newspaper. Tax authorities later issued an apology for the raid, but the paper maintains that it was an act of intimidation
Yeah Mercopress is the devil, its undermining the entire continent of South America at the behest of a few Falkland Islanders. Who wants to know about their sheep, fish and black viscous water. It runs stories that are biased and amount to nothing less than lies and then has the nerve to invite all and sundry to send free and open comments which it then censors to fit its ridiculous view of the World. What fiendish individuals these people are. Why would anybody in their right mind read these lies let alone send in comments. Perhaps its a more of a social thing Chuckles? Whadaya think?
(With the honorable exception of 1 (one) sincere woman from Gran Malvina)
I ask myself?....
”Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time passing
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time ago
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Gone to hiding every one
When will they ever learn?
But print media, particularly Clarín and La Nación, remain a threat to Mrs. Kirchner. And this is why she is going after Papel Prensa. She aims to control the supply of newsprint and imprison principals of both companies http://benton.org/node/41164
Yet the problem of bad press for the Kirchners is much bigger than Clarin. As the antimarket economic model hits the skids, the nation is turning against its architects and a free press will not remain silent. This is why the president forced a media law through the legislature two weeks ago, creating a new audio-visual regulatory board controlled by the executive.
The law also grants the executive control over all licensing of the radio spectrum and reserves at least two-thirds of it for state-owned and nongovernmental broadcasters approved by the executive. There is concern that Mrs. Kirchner is now preparing to take over the most important domestic supplier of newsprint and to begin using import licensing to control access to foreign supplies.
And in answer to one sided, mendacious trumpeting of the nationalist cause in Argentina. Only an Argentine could find conspiracy in something publicly declared.
Kinda strange given the current acitivities in Argentina by the Kirchner Government to suppress press dissent, something lauded by our Peronist lecturer on morals.
C’mon!!!............ Isolde,..... WestisBest,...... Islander1,...... Stillakelper...... and so many other Kelpers
I know you are reading this…….
No Comments?........... No Opinions?
Well….. I hope, at least, that from now on, you’ll stop telling us, “poor brainwashed ignorant Argentineans” how “Independent” a “News Agency” Mercopress is.
So the argument is now that FIG pays Mercopress, a news website. To display news, Or just biast news? So why then does Mercopress report news such news as the pod whales dying, or the skua population halfing?
Just a guess, but this might just be that brain of yours seeing a conspiracy where it's not one. In your mind think everything is a lie and a conspiracy.
It's a news website. The falklands pay for one of there people over to report some news. The falklanders wan't more articles about them. It's pretty standard stuff.
Unless you're an Argentinian ofcourse. Then it has to be either a lie, a major conspiracy or a master plan where the UK government somehow is setting up news websites in south america to spread propaganda to the twenty people who post here.
When in real life. Our government isn't really bothered about Argentina and barely even mentions it to people.
Ofcourse it will continue to be a conspiracy untill someone finally proves Think wrong. At such point he will ignore the last post you make and wait a few months to bring up the conspiracy(Aka Falklands defence costs.) again.
(still, with the honorable exception of 1 (one) sincere woman from Gran Malvina)
I ask myself?....
”Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time passing
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time ago
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Gone to hiding every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn!
Looks like Governor Nigel Haywood ordered to hide all the sheep, one escape briefly from custody and recaptured hours later. :-)))
Is that wedding today?
Yeah I'm reading it think, but you know what?.....I couldn't give a shit about what motivates or who controls Mercopress, you can winge all you like but if you really don't like what you read here you know what you can do don't you?
Well I tried my best for you Chuckles
Just a suggestion - instead of brainwash consider mouthwash.
Anyway, just checked and our Majestic Union Jack still flies high and proud in a sustained and resolute wind over these..... Our beautiful and resource rich Falkland Islands. Chuckle chuckle.
My friend Think, you are asking too much, this is a dangerous topic for our kelpers friends; because this issue is like the top of an iceberg; because we will start talking about Mercopress but we will finish talking about journalist activity & information management in kelperland.
For kelperland squidocracy real journalism activity in Malvinas would be more dangerous than Argentina, that´s why that activity doesn´t exist in Stanley. PNews, Finn and Firs are only voices of FIG, no independence from goverment and everybody knows that so they need Mercopress as a mask.
Why independent and real journalism is so dangerous in Malvinas and is banned?
Because when you have in a society real journalism activity you have political discussions about the main issues, you have arguments, you have different views, you have diffeerent ideas, etc. That situation would be a real threat to status quo. One of the main factors to keep status quo alive is to have the kelpers population without discusing anything, no new ideas that could challenge the old arguments, they need physical, psycological and informative isolation. Squidocrasy is afraid of any new political argument, that´s why there are no political parties (Before the war there were political parties in kelperland).
Real journalist activity is a pilar of democracy, squidocracy don´t want that, they need brainwashed lambs instead of citizens who doesn´t challenge any of the old colonial arguments that keep status quo alive.
'''Real journalist activity is a pilar of democracy, squidocracy don´t want that, they need brainwashed lambs instead of citizens who doesn´t challenge any of the old colonial arguments that keep status quo alive.''
Quite right. You know how I was thinking of spending next week? Taking part in a serious of workshops about the Biodiversity Strategy.
Since you've just kindly pointed out that I am in fact a 'brainwashed lamb', I think I might just send in a recording of myself saying 'Yes, yes, well done chaps, keep up the good work' and stay at home.
I might just send in a similar recording to the Public Accounts Committee and save myself having to read 100 pages of documents.
Billy, you're just making a fool of yourself with your ludicrous insults and gross generalisations. I'm glad you've decided to do it here for the entertainment value, but I think you might find a more sympathetic audience elsewhere.
You haven't the faintest idea about anything that goes on here, and since you've decided not to believe anything you read about the Falklands in the media I can't see anything for it but to read Argentine propaganda instead.
I've noticed and pointed out the bias that MercoPress tends to show, so I'm not really that shocked.
Theirs (the islanders) is a voice that gets little airtime in Latin America, and gets drowned out by rhetoric and misinformation, so it's understandable that they want to get their side across.
It's not like Mercopress was specifically created by the FIG to spread Kelper propaganda and slander Argentina, whilst posing as partial Uruguayans. Although it does regularly demonstrate a pro-British/Kelper leaning.
Do obvious bias and negative articles about the Islanders/British on other Pro-Argentina sites cause you to get your investigative hat and pipe out? ;)
Do I imply, at any point, that anybody should be shocked?
Do I imply, at any point, that it is not understandable that the Islanders use such methods?
Do I imply, at any point, that MercoPress was specifically created by the FIG to spread Kelper propaganda and slander Argentina?
I just presented the article and asked all those Brutish posters claiming MercoPress to be an ”Independent News Agency” and a Beacon of Freedom and Truth” for their comments and opinions.
To finish…………….
You say:
”Do obvious bias and negative articles about the Islanders/British on other Pro-Argentina sites cause you to get your investigative hat and pipe out? ”
I say:
Would you please be so kind to direct me to any Pro-Argentina site with ”obvious bias and negative articles against Malvinas” that identifies itself as,...... I quote:
”An independent news agency which focuses on delivering news related to Mercosur-member countries….”
i wonder, why so much insults comes from the islands and others pro british ? could be that truth hurts ? i think every $&$”#!% from them contribute to Argentina´s cause ... no coherent argument, just insults.
......because you're trying to destroy us and we don't like you very much.
I just did a quick insult tally and I think things are pretty even.
And I haven't seen much in the way of coherent arguments from you lot; mostly rumour, innuendo, conspiracy theories and prejudice.
Monty, no one want to destroy you or your society, all the contrary, argentines want to live in peace and cooperation with kelpers, but as you know we can accept your colonial masters to stay in south atlantic.
Ask your colonial masters to leave the region and conflict will became a bad memory from the past, you will develop your country according its potential and you will became a citizen of the world instead of a colonial subject of a declining monarchy.
so_ far... don´t worry about insults, it´s understandable, fear and intransigence dominate them, it´s not their fault, it´s the product of years of indoctrination. Remember that them as colonial subjects are not used to political discussions; those discussions are nearly forbiden in public in kelperland.
@102 Monty, no one want to destroy you or your society, all the contrary, argentines want to live in peace and cooperation with kelpers
I am sure that many islanders want to reach an agreement. But....
the status quo favors only a few who are lining their pockets. $$$$$$
Mike Summers, Falkland Island Company, etc, etc, a pity.
Its almost sad to watch someone who is indoctrinated from the moment he went to school by the Peronist Big Lie turn things on its head and accuse the peaceful Islanders as being indoctrinated, you really know not what you do.
However, I think accusing the Islanders of being incapable of political discussion, and then claiming they are prevented from doing so is crass stupidity, and at least from my perspective it is very insulting to the Islander Population.
No-one is forcing the Islanders to be British, or to even remain British, it is a choice they make of their own free will. Our Constitutional Monarchy here in the UK is also accused of being in 'decline', but no evidence is presented to support this assertion, indeed it would seem to remain a hot favourite for any future Independence of the Falkland Islands, should that ever happen.
All Argentine policy, and Presidential decrees, even your Constitution, wishes to destroy the system of Government on the Falkland Islands, these actions attempt to change the society and people on the islands; these are not the actions of peace and cooperation, these are the actions of an oppressive and aggressive Argentine Government, no wonder people on here call you Billy Liar, you trot out fantastically inept lies, and all in support of the biggest and most stupid lie of them all, the lie of your claim of Sovereignty.
All your arguments collapse when we sit and examine the Peronist Big Lie, and there's little you can do about that one collapsing in an untidy heap, as even your own Government knows it wouldn't stand the scrutiny of the International Court of Justice.
A FIG(leaf) that employs a 38 years old dust remover, cars salesman, daddy’s boy, ”OIL COMPANY CONSULTANT” Islander with no relevant studies or qualifications whatsoever, as their ”DIRECTOR OF MINERAL RESOURCES” ...........................
A FIG(leaf) that plans and funds the visit of the owner of an Independent News Agency and his trustworthy follower, the “BRITISH EMBASSY SPOKESPERSON AND PRESS OFFICER” in Buenos Aires, to accept their offer about how to get FALKLANDS PUBLICITY into South America.
All this in just this one article!
What a pretty, little INDEPENDENT FIG(leaf) it is………………………….
All Argentine consulting firms that calculated an inflation rate higher than the official 10.9 percent has received a letter from the government today. They've been given 48 hours to explain their calculation or face a $125,000 fine, according to the FT.
@102 Billy Hayes, what business is it of yours how we run our government. You clearly do not know how our government works. As yet we are not going to ask Britain to leave. We want them to stay and its got nothing to do with you or your country. Mind your own business. You do not tell us what to do in OUR OWN land.
The boy has a degree in geology.
The boy has 1 (one) published article. (A whole 6 pages one, together with the H. Emma Edwards)
The boy Is a Consultant for the Oilies in Malvinas.
The boy is a Luxton.
The boy is inquestionably the best man for the job.
Emma has a masters in petroleum geology. Just in case anyone was interested.
Phyl Rendell has no relevant qualifications at all, apart from being a talented manager of people and budgets.
Perhaps you think we should pay over the odds and get someone in from overseas? How very colonial of you.
Happily we have immigration rules in place that ensure that if an islander is good enough to do the job, then they do it.
That's good enough; not better than anyone else in the entire world because that would be ridiculous (and expensive).
Or perhaps you think that anyone who has any relation with anyone else in public life or business should be excluded?
That wouldn't leave us with many people to choose from,would it?
Sorry to dissapoint you again and again and……......... I was being a bit ”ironical” too about the ”best man” part……………..
(112) Monty69
You say:
Or perhaps you think that anyone who has any relation with anyone else in public life or business should be excluded? That wouldn't leave us with many people to choose from, would it?
I say:
That is exactly the central problem; you don’t have many people to choose from…..........
But appointing a local Oil Companies Consultant as the governmental director in charge of negotiating and controlling those same Oil Companies is to stretch the elastic a bit toooooooooooooooooooooooo much.
The Skuas story again.
Wolves guarding the sheep…………………………..
fortunately think your opinion about Stephens suitability for the job is every bit as relevant as your opinion on any other Falkland Islands Government appointment..... not at all.
:-)
Have a nice day.
I don't think you have 'put things right'; that is a matter of opinion, and any reasonable person would see your more recent responses as a litany of excuses.
I note again you refuse to admit your mistake, or apologise for it, you're obviously not man enough to do so.
Apart from Argentina being unlikely to afford $10 and a pea shooter, how would you get from British Columbia to the Falkland Islands on the welfare you're claiming?
@126 Sorry, it's not right. We disagree with them on many issues. Maybe he wanted to be ironic, but be careful. There are many crazy people in this world!!!.
Assumption again think, you don't know that much about us really do you?
@126
I do wish you'd pull your head out of your arse long enough for someone to give you the kick in the teeth that you so richly deserve. You horrible little twat.
Where's Beef? When the oil bussiness in Malvinas are down he hides under the bed, not to mention his prediction about Libya's leader several weeks ago.
About the qualifications of the new Director of Mineral Resources:
He likes to be called Bogmonster
Occupation: Dust extraction
Interests: Bombing around!
He loves Land Rovers
His best statement:A Boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by fibreglass, into which you throw money...
Ooohhh yes you did…………...........................
You may have been sarcastic.
You may have been ironic.
Yo may have been joking.
But you did……………….
”2 WestisBest Nov 19th, 2010
……….”Are you reading this Israel? Ooohhhh, one of those ignorant sheep farmers taking an interest in RG affairs again...how dare we! :-)”
Anyhow. Tank’s for correcting my wrong assumption.
NEVER FORGET
ISLAS MALVINAS ARGENTINA.
#127 LOL you let me worry about the money,you just make sure to not become collateral damage..
#131 hope and wishfull thinking is the bread for the poor in spirit, keep wishing son, that might the only satisfaction God will ever give you, there aren't enought men in your community to do your wishes, when you do find one send him too me, I'll make sure he gets the kind of treatment he deserves, make sure he is not a homo, I don't beat up on women, Chilren or the mentally ill.
Think, presuming too much again. btw, never heard of gran malvina, what is it? a mountain in the Andes, perhaps?
@139 I You, my lad are a complete raving lunatic. More to be pitied than laughed at.
If you mean WestisBest........
Yeahhhh… I “assume” easily when people call themselves ”Sheep Farmers”………. that they are Sheep Farmers.....
If you mean Grizelda's son.......
Well.... I assumed that when neither Mercopress nor Sartma, nor the FIG(leaf) nor he nor anybody else made any mention of any competence giving degrees then…………… His degree’s and his degree's degree's are apparently a well guarded secret :-)
By the way………….
You never gave your opinion or ”stamp of approval” in the discussion about MercoPress; the official FIG(leaf) Publicity Agency…………
Why are all the RG's so upset at Mercopress carrying stories written in the Falkland Islands by Falkland Islanders. Do you think they shoud be stifled and not reach the light of day. Would that suit your pontificating about free journalism.
Merco (if you hadn't noticed) is an English language publication - one of very few in South America. It is natural therefore that people who think, speak and write in English would submit articles to an English language organisation.
And before you all go ballistic, we know the BA Herald is an English language paper. But it neither solicits nor prints articles or opinions from the Falkland Islands. Wonder why that is.....don't like the story, don't print the article ?
It is the right and practice of the free press all over the world to be partizan, and it is in most free democratic countries, and even in yours. Sartma would be massively amused to hear of FIG control over it; whoever made that comment really does know little about us. Your pet spy needs a kick up the arse.
And as for Stephen, he is a strong and very capable manager. And he vividly remembers being expelled from his homeland as a small boy, not knowing if he would ever return.
Well guys he's back, and it won't do you any favours. You had your chances in '96 to put in a decent bid to co-operate in exploration here and you flunked it. Sometimes its hard to go back, so better to live for the future.
It is deeply sad, Mercopress is neither pro or anti-FIG, it still reports the stories from Argentina about the Argentine claim, often in terms that I am sure Falkland Islanders do find offensive. But what really sticks in their craw is the fact that they also print stories written in the Falklands by Falklanders and they don't like free speech, they'd much rather that this be suppressed, hidden and never see the light of day.
……….”Are you reading this Israel? Ooohhhh, one of those ignorant sheep farmers taking an interest in RG affairs again...how dare we! :-)”
Just might have been ironic think given that I used the collective and who I was replying to, you know the rhetoric that the Argie ranters such as him use when refering to Falkland Islanders, squatters, illegal aliens, a few sheep farmers et al.
@142
Grizelda's SON think?? they kept that quiet.
;-)))
As the British won the dispute of 1771 it would be surprising if they accepted any interpretation acknowledging Spain's sovereignty. Usual crap from Marvin.
Morning all, been holidaying! Anything happening? Falkland Islands still British? Of course they are..... after all, the matter was sorted .... in 1771 ....... and for good in 1833 ..... with a little reinforcement in 1982 !
We have laws on Green Belt land for a reason, to prevent uncontrolled development. They built without planning permission on land they knew they would never get planning permission for.
If I were to do the same, the result would be the same. We have seen many examples where people have had homes demolished because they built without planning permission on Green Belt land. They weren't Gypsies so the Gruniad had no drum to beat.
This has nothing to do with race, it is raised as a red herring to distract from the fact they are in this position as they have behaved illegally.
But hey don't let the facts get in the way of having a pop will you?
I didn't Think about the “Green Belt Land” rules…..
Those all important British City Council Planning Regulations that supersede all other known human legislation as, f. ex., the UN bill of Human Right and the Magna Charta, rendering them obsolete and irrelevant……………….
Oh come on think, stop kidding yourself. You latch onto what you perceive as a clue to peoples identities like a starving remora in your efforts to appear savvy. Frankly it would be a bit pathetic if it wasn't for the way it gets you into such amusing corners soooo often.
Didn't know Magna Carta had a planning section.
Bet the planning fees have gone up since then.
Right of Appeal and Public Consultation were probably added later.
Local Democracy you cannot beat it.
So of no relevance, hijacking a discussion off on a sidetrack based on the fact that Magna Carta is somehow incompatible with planning regulations. Seen some desperate crap from our Argentine contributors but claiming planning regulations are in violation of Magna Carta is beyond the scraping of the barrel.
Anyway, nice to see Falkland Islanders continuing with a policy of giving positions to Falklanders rather than ex-pats.
Another nail in Argentine's coffin in the Falklands.
No doubt you will remember it think, not that it matters if you don't as it'll be neatly categorised under the 'westisbest' tag in your database of mercopress sommentators.
PS: Don't even bother trying to deny that you have such a database....el stalkero.
;-)
@ 156 Isolde, Just wanted to show the existence of the Gran Malvina name in the document of the British recognition of Spanish sovereignty.
I know this does not change anything...... for now.
kisses for you.
Of course there is always the argie way of dealing with things
A 19-year old man was killed and at least nine people were seriously injured in a violent clash between residents in the Villa Soldati area and squatter families settling in the Indoamericano Park nearby, the head of the SAME emergency services confirmed.
Glad I amuse you Marvin. Only the Argies could take a defeat and then try to claim it as a victory. No recognition of Spanish sovereignty, rather the contrary.
Of course there is always the argie way of dealing with things
Argentina: Indigenous peoples forcibly evicted from their ancestral lands
www.forestpeoples.org/topics/rights-land-natural-resources/news/2010/11/argentina-indigenous-peoples-forcibly-evicted-thei
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGood man.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MMMMmmmm
Apr 11th, 2011 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He seems like oil-oligarch !
Woooow…… Impressive curriculum
Apr 11th, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant.
I suppose that being Daddy Bill's son doesn’t hurt ;-)
I remember when that lady Monty69 and that sheep farmer West Is Best told me that she retired already??
Apr 11th, 2011 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monty69”And West is right. Phyl Rendell just retired:-)))))
The Falkland Islands has nominated an Islander as new Director of Mineral Resources who will be taking over from Phyl Rendell when she retires as the end of the year
Mr. Luxton was offered the post following interviews conducted by the Falklands’ government.”
Interview:
Do you like Fish and oil?
Yes
Do you hate wildlife?
Yes
Great, you are hired! In a few months you can join The New Island Conservation Trust as well.
@3
Apr 11th, 2011 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good old argie way of doing things
Nepotism is rife in Argentina and does not have the same negative connotation that it carries elsewhere
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/intercultural/management/argentina.html
@4
Apr 11th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Marcos, you hate fish and oil, and love wildlife, fair enough.
What is your gripe with New Island then?
No gripe Fred, but for some reason oil and fishing representives end over there.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 05 Well said.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hypocrisy and lies run deep in Argentina.
Please Mr.Think, don´t talk about nepotism, it´s not necessary and it´s not their fault to be an endogamic society with ultra little choices if they want an islander to fill the post.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The endogamical situation is not their fault, blame status quo and british political interference in south atlantic; but not those poor squatters that are doing their best effort.
Argentina’s current President is the widow of its former President.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nepotism?
Please Mr.Stick, don´t talk about nepotism; it´s hilarious to read your words as you are a subject of a monarchy.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you want to see nepotism at big scale look at home...by the way, a bit boring the ultra hipped King´s Speech.
@11
Apr 11th, 2011 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nepotism is rife in Argentina and does not have the same negative connotation that it carries elsewhere
Thats a positive then aint it
11. Name an Argentine Oscar...eeeer
Apr 11th, 2011 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 011. Name an Argentine Oscar...eeeer
Apr 11th, 2011 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Second argie Oscar....http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/The+Secret+in+Their+Eyes
First argie Oscar...do your homework kid.
9 Billy Hayes
Apr 11th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''endogamic society''????
Can I ask you what you mean by that?
Monty69”And West is right. Phyl Rendell just retired:-)))))“
Apr 11th, 2011 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Señorita Monty, she didn't yet.
No, you're right. And????
Apr 12th, 2011 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0And what?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Monty
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0An endogamic society is the opposite of an heterogamic society.
An heterogamic society plus an hiperproteical diet and you have an explosive result: argentines & uruguayans, canadians, australians, yanks and a few more.
An endogamic society plus an hipovitamin diet you have kelpers.
Here in this forum the difference is clear.
In one side you have fear, intransigence, siege mentality, prejudices, lack of ideas.
In the other you have brain cells working and alternatives & ideas for peace and development.
Unfortunately kelpers are paying for the consequences of the conflict because of british presence in south atlantic, the cost is not cheap, you can measure it in money and in human development.
In one side you have fear, intransigence, siege mentality, prejudices, lack of ideas.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are stealing our oil,they are firing rapiers,Malvinas son argentina,we will never give up our claim,kelpers squaters,gringos ,they are our islands
If the cap fits
19 Well if thats the case then you need to engage your collective brain cell a bit harder and come up with something different. Because your current ideas are totally unacceptable.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19, what are we paying, Bill?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Argentina wants peace and development? that's rich, I nearly fell of my chair laughing...so how do you reconcile these laudable aims with your next paragraph:
Apr 12th, 2011 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately kelpers are paying for the consequences of the conflict because of british presence in south atlantic, the cost is not cheap, you can measure it in money and in human development.
British presence is not an impairment to peace and development, be serious now, does Britain really threaten anyone down here? of course not (except in some paranoid Argentinain minds). The only thing impairing peace & development in the South Atlantic is you, the Argentinians.
19 Billy Hayes
Apr 12th, 2011 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's lovely Billy. What I'm seeing on your side is ignorance and bigotry, and the application of double standards.
Can I refer you to countless posts by Argentines complaining that only 40- something percent of the population of the Falklands were born here.
If that is the case, then WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY THEY WERE BORN? I'll tell you......Chile, St Helena, UK, Russia, Argentina, France....and I'm just talking about the people I know.
However, if you do have 'alternatives & ideas for peace and development', I'd love to hear what they are because all I'm seeing right now is persecution.
You'll need to drop the 'all Kelpers are stupid' routine though. It just makes me want to staple things to your head, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
11 Billy Hayes
Apr 12th, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0We're subject of a constitutional monarchy. Don't over exaggerate. This whole argument about how people get the high influence jobs in each country is pointless as both countries are as bad as each other. We, Britain, have a Prime Minister who is a distant relative of our queen and Deputy Prime Minister who is related to another Royal Family. You, Argentina, have a President who was married to the last President. Each country has it's own establishment.
I've noticed when reading through all of these articles on here that the arguments are usually over which country is the best. When usually both countries have similar faults. It is pathetic. Argentines, accept that corruption is rife within your country and instead of arguing that it isn't seek to improve it. Brits, accept that our country has it's own problems which we need to sort out.
Monty,
Apr 12th, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kelpers are politically stupids, sorry; they are paying and suffering the consequences of the conflict while britain collects all the benefits.
My idea for peace & development is well known in this forum. Ask your colonial masters (Britain) to leave south atlantic while you ask Argentina to accept your selfdetermination and independence. Offer Argentina the Queen´s head while you demand for your freedom. Britain is the alien factor in south atlantic. Argentines & kelpers need to find a way to leave in peace, but tango is for two, britain is the conflictive factor.
Whats all the benefits Billy?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And if The Falkland Islanders accepted your idea what has your remarkable brain cell come up with in connection with South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands?
Seems to me your idea of peace and development is everybody else just agreeing with whatever you want. Here's some advice - it aint gonna happen.
BeSerious;
Apr 12th, 2011 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talk about SS & SG but previously you asked what are the benefits....you answer yourself the question. Britain benefits are to stay in south atlantic at kelpers & argentine cost.
Don´t worry about SS & SG situation, if Britain leave, as I think it would happen sooner than later, SS & SG situation would be a bilateral issue between kelperland and argentina.
Did I ever mention Wolves Guarding Sheep?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MercoPress cleansed version:
Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant. He will be resigning his consultancy roles.
Original version:
Mr Luxton has accumulated significant knowledge of oil development both as a previous Chair of the FIG Mineral Resources Committee and more recently as a consultant, mainly working alongside BHP Billiton (BHP) and Falklands Oil and Gas (FOGL). Upon taking up the post Mr Luxton will resign his consultancy roles.
Can you spot the little difference?
@ Rectifying Madness (25)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct. The aruguements in here has come down to Britain vs Argentina. Everyone (including myself) has lost sight of the real reason for the debate. Argentina's complete dislike of Britain is clear and the British and Islander posters (again including myself) retaliate with equally xenophobic statements.
But this loss of sight reassures me, the Argentine posters seem to have started to realise the error's in their interpretation of history and the governance of the Falklands.
And it is very hypocritical for the Argentine's to scream nepotisism, you just have to look at their Current President. But Argentina is hyprocracy personified. Whoops, more xenophobia!
TWIMC
Apr 12th, 2011 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t want to sound like Dr. House but…………………..
If you Islanders want to keep this young man as Director of Mineral Resources for some time, would somebody please tell him to take a medical ASAP?
His facial teint is worrying…………………….
31 Could be just the lighting but I'm sure he'll appreciate your kind concern.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No denying though, that Kirchner has a face like a bag of spanners. A few medicals too many perhaps?
Nestor Kirchner was a picture of health,all that nastiness must of done for him,take note Think
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 You are a silly Billy, aren't you?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain benefits are to stay in south atlantic at kelpers & argentine cost. No, dickweed, it isn't costing the Falklanders anything. It may be costing Argentina something. Credibility.
Don´t worry about SS & SG situation, if Britain leave, as I think it would happen sooner than later, SS & SG situation would be a bilateral issue between kelperland and argentina. That's a joke, right? You are talking about a bilateral issue between Argentina and a country that it refuses to accept has the right to self-determination. You must think that Britain and the Falklands are as stupid as you are.
Here's what would happen if Britain were to decide to ignore the Islanders and pull out. About 2 days later Argentine forces would arrive to enforce the Falklands position as part of one of Argentina's provinces. Every facet of Islander life would turned upside down and every necessary step taken to ensure that they conform. Argentines would arrive en masse to buy up land at knockdown prices because any title to land obtained under British rule would be declared invalid. Schools, if allowed to remain, would be staffed by Argentine teachers to ensure that only the Argentine version of history was taught.
Dream on. Go back to the haze in which you live your life.
28 So Billy Boy what are all the benefits?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spell em out, there's a good fellow.
You must have some idea otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned all the benefits. What do you think they are?
31 Think, Looks like this young man was well fed by oil corporations.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He doesn't look very happy, where's my pizza!
34 Poor kelpers, the fear drum is again being played as if they were trembling lambs instead of people.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fear fear fear for british benefits at kelpers costs.
37 Thanks Billy. Its all clear now.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surfing the Internet I just found this one…….. Interesting!........ Isn’t it?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 020.12.2007
”Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
What do you think?
I thought Merco was Uruguayan? :-)))
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is the young man above related to Bog Monster?
Occupation: Dust extraction
Interests: Bombing around!
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16812
Dust extraction ???.....................
Apr 12th, 2011 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very interesting, dear Watson.....................
In the Oil Business, a dry well is called a Duster..................
Dust extraction!!!....................
Chuckle chuckle........
:-)))))
Apr 12th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 039 Yawn.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 That was so funny. I bet you're a wow at parties.
14.. I was talking about Best Picture idiot! You know the ultimate award, not the pissy awards of merit like foreign language films :)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 044º jejejej
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to introduce you the turnip of the month...Mr.Raurie Crogwell clap clap clap
My dear turnip of the month Best Picture Oscar can only be achieved by english spoken movies.
I will give an scoop my dear turnip of the month: argentine movies are spoken in spanish, so they can´t be awarded with the Best Picture Oscar, they only compete in Foreign Language Films category.
clap clap clap kid
the turnip of the month...Mr.Raurie Crogwell clap clap clap
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good choice Bill!
Chuckle chuckle………..
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At Post No. 39 I present unquestionable, irrefutable and categorical evidence that MercoPress is being paid by the FIG to; i quote: “Putting information about the Falklands into Latin America”
Where are all the Brutish posters claiming MercoPress to be an independent News agency and a beacon of freedom and truth?
I repost No. 39:
”20.12.2007
Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
Any chance of proof Think,
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0allow me DYOR :-)))))
Not very good at recognising emotion are you Billy, if we were afraid we wouldn't be here in the Falklands. What you see in our posts is scorn....with a dash of contempt.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 045 Well Billy it has to be said old son if he's turnip of the month you're cabbage of the year.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 047 I think I can say without fear of contradiction that it was more exciting the first time. See 43.
Chuckle chucke
Apr 12th, 2011 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that only the Turnips are responding to my post No. 47..................
The intelligent Bruts know that I don't lie...................
51 Don't flatter yourself.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle Chuck.
Sorry Mr.Think, but you are wrong, what you are posting is ancient history.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 02007 is far far away. Post 2007 we have two definitive events for Mercopress-FIG financial pact.
1)2008-2009 financial crisis.
2) Councilor Summer and old council losing his post.
Those events hit hard Mercopress.
But fortunately we have AIM market. So if you want to find the financial missing link you must start looking at the oilies. They are paying the bill.
Billy... Billy...
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was reserving that for later!
Did you never hear about Forplay?
i love brutish....they´re really funnny, every house should have one at home just for fun :)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0p.d. not in the way in which they are in iraq, afhanistan, libya, malvinas, etc.
i love brutish....they´re really funnny, every house should have one at home just for fun :)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont you mean every container, the new Argie tv show a container in the country :-))))
The AFIP revenue agency (AFIP) has uncovered a new case of exceptionally poor working conditions on an olive grove in San Juan province, where 143 workers were reported to be living inside rusty containers.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/64242/afip-discovered-143-rural-workers-living-in-rusty-containers-san-juan
56 sorry my mistake...every container should have a brit just for fun. Anyway it change anything? btw look at this mate, i guess AR could export containers ? ;)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/23/poverty-save-the-children
i guess AR could export containers ? ;)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best not export food
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
58, hmm..is very sad see the poverty and People dying everywhere...sorry i can´t play with that.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please let's focus in the original idea ”is very funny have a brutish in your place (JUST FOR FUN).
Well we're having fun in the Falklands so_far, cheers!
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Is the Czech president related to the British?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFoYkWulKOI
60, i say ”is very funny have a brutish in your place (JUST FOR FUN)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you say Well we're having fun in the Falklands
We know Malvinas is our place and full of you brits guys are there....
let me share something interesting about Freudian slip definition
A Freudian slip, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious (dynamically repressed) wish, conflict, or train of thought”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
Cheers
I would help if one told us the link think, in the mean time I shall downgrade your accusations to having the need to make a big deal category.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Me thinks Argentines don't like not having the monopoly on interpreting the Falklands, makes them insecure about the whole we have sovereignty over them argument, you obviously can't have sovereignty if evil Falklands controlled news outlets are saying otherwise.....D'oh!
44.......Eeer Billy Fail, no it isn't......You ever heard of Crash? Done in FIVE languages other than English, Slumdog Millionaire...in Hindi...Schindlers List....no spoken English at all haha....the list goes on :)
Your made up criteria also suggests that An Argentine film (provided it is done in English) could win.....LOL nice one nugget :) Thanks for proving my point.......AGAIN :)
You really are a twad of the highest order....give yourself a pat on the back and award yourself Turnip of the month....although I beg to differ, Turnips have a far higher IQ, toilet bowl of the month is far a closer comparison to you...tee hee :D
61, lol :D
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(63)
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wooow... Seems to be that Turnips in here havn' t learn to GOOGLE!
They don't like Youtube nor Wikipedia either.
They seem to prefer the Encyclopedia Britannica and the morse telegraph :-)
Here is the link you where incapable of finding, Sassenach......:
SARTMA.COM; The British South Atlantic Remote Territories Media Association.
http://www.sartma.com/art_4848_12_192_2.html
Falklands - General Purposes Committee Report
Falkland Islands News Network 20.12.2007
Mr. Xyy Xyyyyy from MercoPress would have his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It is expected that he will arrive in the Falklands at the end of January. It is not certain whether Mr. Yxxxxx Yxxxxxxx (British embassy spokesperson and press official) from Buenos Aires will come with him but a visit is also being worked out.
He wants to present a document about how to get Falklands publicity into South America to Councillors.
At any rate, Cllr. Summers said that Mr.Xyy Xyyyyy is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about the Falklands into Latin America.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and MercoPress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media.”
53 Billy Hayes
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''Those events hit hard Mercopress'
.....well obviously, since they're still here doing just what they were doing before.
And bless them, whoever's paying. Where else do you get the chance to hear people like you spout complete blx in a public place and let the whole world see why we don't want to be Argentine. I'd even chip in a few quid myself.
(66) Now we are talking Monty69!
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Until today, any Argentinean commenting about the obvious Anti Argentinean Bias on MercoPress was called a “Paranoid” and/or a “Conspiracy Theorist” by you, people…………………….
Now, finnaly you are sincere and say: ”I'd even chip in a few quid myself.”
That’s my girl!
I didn't say they were unbiased, because that would be naive and stupid. There is no media outlet in the entire world that is unbiased.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did say they weren't British, and they aren't.
What entertains me most is you all getting your panties in a twist at the thought of Falkland Islanders having a voice in South America. If we are all as ignorant and stupid as you think, then what's your problem?
68 Monty69. Is not matter of having a voice in South America is about government officials paying a media outlet to spread their propaganda.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would indeed be wrong. I think what they were paying for, even if everything you say is true, was advice about how to get their message across.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Island stories on Mercopress generally come from SeAled PR or John Fowler, who are credited and paid the going rate, and are nothing to do with FIG. It's not propaganda; it's news. The fact that it isn't the news you want to hear is your problem.
There are plenty of places you can go to read about how beastly the British are and how stupid and benighted the Kelpers are. If that kind of propaganda is your bag then why don't you go there.? I wouldn't mind betting that El Malvinense gets a few quite backhanders from the Argentine government
Why then paying a media outlet to spread their propaganda in a secret location 2000 km away in Montevideo and not from the source in Stanley?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0To make your government propaganda look real and mislead readers about any real support in mainland South America.
Monty, kelpers has the right to spread their voice, so why don´t they liberate PNews for all at internet, o why don´t they use Sartma? why don´t they use a local media agency as all countries do?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0But no, they use an independent news agency, for Mercosur issues based in Montevideo. Funny, isn´t it??
@68 & @71
Apr 13th, 2011 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats a corner you're backing into right there Marvin.
Argentina declares FIG is a non-Government and won't recognise or talk to it, but you accuse FIG of actually being a Government and paying MercoPress to put its side of the story in South America.
So lets be clear here Marvin, you independently recognise that FIG is the actual elected Government of the Falkland Islands; progress at last.
A word of warning though Marvin, don't go taking any free helicopter rides over the sea when your Government offer this to you, unless you've packed your water wings.
Neither of you seem to have a clue about how these things work.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0FIG produce press releases every week, as do lots of other organisations within the islands, and around the world.
Agencies such as Mercopress then decide if the stories would interest their readership.They then either write their own stories or commission someone else to do it.
You pair can't get over the fact that there is someone who can't be bullied into peddling the Argentine line. Dry your eyes, princesses. Not everyone agrees with you.
And you can stop going on about our government's 'propaganda'. You're the ones who read propaganda texts to schoolchildren.
The PN has a tiny circulation and has to sell copies to survive. Sorry, but there it is. It isn't a mouthpiece of FIG. You'll have to pay if you want to read it. I understand that the radio news is online and free. I don't know where and wouldn't listen to it myself.
73, Witless, Not sure who Marvin is.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0....his visit planned and funded by FIG.
It was to the Falklands’ benefit to increase their visibility and Mercopress was instrumental in the effort to put the Falklands case to readers in Latin American Media
Monty, This article proofs what we already knew.
Well.................. Things are a bit clearer today.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0*** MercoPress being “INDEPENDENT” ***
What??? No way! In your dreams! Don’t be silly!
*** MercoPress presenting “NEWS” ***
As long as they are paid for!
*** MercoPress being an “AGENCY” ***
Absolutely, definitely and undeniably!
The Argie way
Apr 13th, 2011 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0From his earliest days as president, Mr. Kirchner tried to keep media critics quiet by using the government's publicity budget to reward supporters and starve those outlets that dared to print criticism. It was an effective tool in an economy on life support, where advertising had dried up.
. Kirchner and her husband have decided that they lost because of bad press coverage. They are especially upset with the Clarin media company, which though once a supporter, is now an outspoken critic. In public comments Mr. Kirchner often implies that the government is analyzing the company to see if it might not need to be downsized. In September, tax authorities launched a raid on the Buenos Aires offices of its daily newspaper. Tax authorities later issued an apology for the raid, but the paper maintains that it was an act of intimidation
Yeah Mercopress is the devil, its undermining the entire continent of South America at the behest of a few Falkland Islanders. Who wants to know about their sheep, fish and black viscous water. It runs stories that are biased and amount to nothing less than lies and then has the nerve to invite all and sundry to send free and open comments which it then censors to fit its ridiculous view of the World. What fiendish individuals these people are. Why would anybody in their right mind read these lies let alone send in comments. Perhaps its a more of a social thing Chuckles? Whadaya think?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle Chuckle……..
Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still, only the Turnips responding……………
(With the honorable exception of 1 (one) sincere woman from Gran Malvina)
I ask myself?....
”Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time passing
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time ago
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Gone to hiding every one
When will they ever learn?
The answer must be Blowin’ in the Wind……….
Brainwash anybody????
Blowin out ya arse more like
Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The argie way
But print media, particularly Clarín and La Nación, remain a threat to Mrs. Kirchner. And this is why she is going after Papel Prensa. She aims to control the supply of newsprint and imprison principals of both companies
http://benton.org/node/41164
Yet the problem of bad press for the Kirchners is much bigger than Clarin. As the antimarket economic model hits the skids, the nation is turning against its architects and a free press will not remain silent. This is why the president forced a media law through the legislature two weeks ago, creating a new audio-visual regulatory board controlled by the executive.
The law also grants the executive control over all licensing of the radio spectrum and reserves at least two-thirds of it for state-owned and nongovernmental broadcasters approved by the executive. There is concern that Mrs. Kirchner is now preparing to take over the most important domestic supplier of newsprint and to begin using import licensing to control access to foreign supplies.
79 Yeah Chuckles but it fills up your time, so why complain?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 080 Blowin out your arse more like
Very true and might I say succinctly put - the lady does indeed have a bad case of verbal diarrhea.
Mmmmmm.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Openly declared
Openly reported
And in answer to one sided, mendacious trumpeting of the nationalist cause in Argentina. Only an Argentine could find conspiracy in something publicly declared.
Kinda strange given the current acitivities in Argentina by the Kirchner Government to suppress press dissent, something lauded by our Peronist lecturer on morals.
C’mon!!!............ Isolde,..... WestisBest,...... Islander1,...... Stillakelper...... and so many other Kelpers
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you are reading this…….
No Comments?........... No Opinions?
Well….. I hope, at least, that from now on, you’ll stop telling us, “poor brainwashed ignorant Argentineans” how “Independent” a “News Agency” Mercopress is.
As long as MercoPress remains independent of Argentine Government meddling I think everyone can rest easy.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon !!!.........What about you, Saphira ……........or MLA Bill Luxton …….... or Belonger PominOz ?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I KNOW there is intelligent life out there!!!
Cmon ...Isolde....Westisbest...islander....stillakelper - The Argentinian creep sounds desperate and needs your support.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the argument is now that FIG pays Mercopress, a news website. To display news, Or just biast news? So why then does Mercopress report news such news as the pod whales dying, or the skua population halfing?
Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a guess, but this might just be that brain of yours seeing a conspiracy where it's not one. In your mind think everything is a lie and a conspiracy.
It's a news website. The falklands pay for one of there people over to report some news. The falklanders wan't more articles about them. It's pretty standard stuff.
Unless you're an Argentinian ofcourse. Then it has to be either a lie, a major conspiracy or a master plan where the UK government somehow is setting up news websites in south america to spread propaganda to the twenty people who post here.
When in real life. Our government isn't really bothered about Argentina and barely even mentions it to people.
Ofcourse it will continue to be a conspiracy untill someone finally proves Think wrong. At such point he will ignore the last post you make and wait a few months to bring up the conspiracy(Aka Falklands defence costs.) again.
Chuckle Chuckle……..
Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, only Turnips responding……………
(still, with the honorable exception of 1 (one) sincere woman from Gran Malvina)
I ask myself?....
”Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time passing
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Long time ago
Where have all those Brutons gone?
Gone to hiding every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn!
The answer must be Blowin’ in the Wind……….
Brainwash anybody????
Looks like Governor Nigel Haywood ordered to hide all the sheep, one escape briefly from custody and recaptured hours later. :-)))
Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that wedding today?
@83
Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I'm reading it think, but you know what?.....I couldn't give a shit about what motivates or who controls Mercopress, you can winge all you like but if you really don't like what you read here you know what you can do don't you?
Well I tried my best for you Chuckles
Apr 13th, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a suggestion - instead of brainwash consider mouthwash.
Anyway, just checked and our Majestic Union Jack still flies high and proud in a sustained and resolute wind over these..... Our beautiful and resource rich Falkland Islands. Chuckle chuckle.
My friend Think, you are asking too much, this is a dangerous topic for our kelpers friends; because this issue is like the top of an iceberg; because we will start talking about Mercopress but we will finish talking about journalist activity & information management in kelperland.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For kelperland squidocracy real journalism activity in Malvinas would be more dangerous than Argentina, that´s why that activity doesn´t exist in Stanley. PNews, Finn and Firs are only voices of FIG, no independence from goverment and everybody knows that so they need Mercopress as a mask.
Why independent and real journalism is so dangerous in Malvinas and is banned?
Because when you have in a society real journalism activity you have political discussions about the main issues, you have arguments, you have different views, you have diffeerent ideas, etc. That situation would be a real threat to status quo. One of the main factors to keep status quo alive is to have the kelpers population without discusing anything, no new ideas that could challenge the old arguments, they need physical, psycological and informative isolation. Squidocrasy is afraid of any new political argument, that´s why there are no political parties (Before the war there were political parties in kelperland).
Real journalist activity is a pilar of democracy, squidocracy don´t want that, they need brainwashed lambs instead of citizens who doesn´t challenge any of the old colonial arguments that keep status quo alive.
(90) WestisBest
Apr 13th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank's for your coarse worded, but sincere answer.
Anybody else out there?
'''Real journalist activity is a pilar of democracy, squidocracy don´t want that, they need brainwashed lambs instead of citizens who doesn´t challenge any of the old colonial arguments that keep status quo alive.''
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite right. You know how I was thinking of spending next week? Taking part in a serious of workshops about the Biodiversity Strategy.
Since you've just kindly pointed out that I am in fact a 'brainwashed lamb', I think I might just send in a recording of myself saying 'Yes, yes, well done chaps, keep up the good work' and stay at home.
I might just send in a similar recording to the Public Accounts Committee and save myself having to read 100 pages of documents.
Billy, you're just making a fool of yourself with your ludicrous insults and gross generalisations. I'm glad you've decided to do it here for the entertainment value, but I think you might find a more sympathetic audience elsewhere.
You haven't the faintest idea about anything that goes on here, and since you've decided not to believe anything you read about the Falklands in the media I can't see anything for it but to read Argentine propaganda instead.
@93
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're very welcome Think.
Now piss off.
PS: you can take that imbecile Billy Hayes with you too.
Silly Billy the Argentine village idiot, jees that Conspiracy theory must of really taken it out of you, take the rest of the day off
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Sr. Think
Apr 13th, 2011 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've noticed and pointed out the bias that MercoPress tends to show, so I'm not really that shocked.
Theirs (the islanders) is a voice that gets little airtime in Latin America, and gets drowned out by rhetoric and misinformation, so it's understandable that they want to get their side across.
It's not like Mercopress was specifically created by the FIG to spread Kelper propaganda and slander Argentina, whilst posing as partial Uruguayans. Although it does regularly demonstrate a pro-British/Kelper leaning.
Do obvious bias and negative articles about the Islanders/British on other Pro-Argentina sites cause you to get your investigative hat and pipe out? ;)
Regards,
Frase
(97) Frase
Apr 13th, 2011 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do I imply, at any point, that anybody should be shocked?
Do I imply, at any point, that it is not understandable that the Islanders use such methods?
Do I imply, at any point, that MercoPress was specifically created by the FIG to spread Kelper propaganda and slander Argentina?
I just presented the article and asked all those Brutish posters claiming MercoPress to be an ”Independent News Agency” and a Beacon of Freedom and Truth” for their comments and opinions.
To finish…………….
You say:
”Do obvious bias and negative articles about the Islanders/British on other Pro-Argentina sites cause you to get your investigative hat and pipe out? ”
I say:
Would you please be so kind to direct me to any Pro-Argentina site with ”obvious bias and negative articles against Malvinas” that identifies itself as,...... I quote:
”An independent news agency which focuses on delivering news related to Mercosur-member countries….”
Thanks in Advance
El Think
i wonder, why so much insults comes from the islands and others pro british ? could be that truth hurts ? i think every $&$”#!% from them contribute to Argentina´s cause ... no coherent argument, just insults.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0......because you're trying to destroy us and we don't like you very much.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just did a quick insult tally and I think things are pretty even.
And I haven't seen much in the way of coherent arguments from you lot; mostly rumour, innuendo, conspiracy theories and prejudice.
@99
Apr 14th, 2011 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0you're obviously not acquainted with pirate-hunter, I, Titan or Avargas.
Monty, no one want to destroy you or your society, all the contrary, argentines want to live in peace and cooperation with kelpers, but as you know we can accept your colonial masters to stay in south atlantic.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ask your colonial masters to leave the region and conflict will became a bad memory from the past, you will develop your country according its potential and you will became a citizen of the world instead of a colonial subject of a declining monarchy.
so_ far... don´t worry about insults, it´s understandable, fear and intransigence dominate them, it´s not their fault, it´s the product of years of indoctrination. Remember that them as colonial subjects are not used to political discussions; those discussions are nearly forbiden in public in kelperland.
@102 Monty, no one want to destroy you or your society, all the contrary, argentines want to live in peace and cooperation with kelpers
Apr 14th, 2011 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure that many islanders want to reach an agreement. But....
the status quo favors only a few who are lining their pockets. $$$$$$
Mike Summers, Falkland Island Company, etc, etc, a pity.
Its almost sad to watch someone who is indoctrinated from the moment he went to school by the Peronist Big Lie turn things on its head and accuse the peaceful Islanders as being indoctrinated, you really know not what you do.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0However, I think accusing the Islanders of being incapable of political discussion, and then claiming they are prevented from doing so is crass stupidity, and at least from my perspective it is very insulting to the Islander Population.
No-one is forcing the Islanders to be British, or to even remain British, it is a choice they make of their own free will. Our Constitutional Monarchy here in the UK is also accused of being in 'decline', but no evidence is presented to support this assertion, indeed it would seem to remain a hot favourite for any future Independence of the Falkland Islands, should that ever happen.
All Argentine policy, and Presidential decrees, even your Constitution, wishes to destroy the system of Government on the Falkland Islands, these actions attempt to change the society and people on the islands; these are not the actions of peace and cooperation, these are the actions of an oppressive and aggressive Argentine Government, no wonder people on here call you Billy Liar, you trot out fantastically inept lies, and all in support of the biggest and most stupid lie of them all, the lie of your claim of Sovereignty.
All your arguments collapse when we sit and examine the Peronist Big Lie, and there's little you can do about that one collapsing in an untidy heap, as even your own Government knows it wouldn't stand the scrutiny of the International Court of Justice.
So you Billy, are just a saddo.
Back to the main issues......
Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0A FIG(leaf) that employs a 38 years old dust remover, cars salesman, daddy’s boy, ”OIL COMPANY CONSULTANT” Islander with no relevant studies or qualifications whatsoever, as their ”DIRECTOR OF MINERAL RESOURCES” ...........................
A FIG(leaf) that plans and funds the visit of the owner of an Independent News Agency and his trustworthy follower, the “BRITISH EMBASSY SPOKESPERSON AND PRESS OFFICER” in Buenos Aires, to accept their offer about how to get FALKLANDS PUBLICITY into South America.
All this in just this one article!
What a pretty, little INDEPENDENT FIG(leaf) it is………………………….
You can just smell the freedom in Argie land
Apr 14th, 2011 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina Threatens To Fine Analysts Who Predict 30 Percent Inflation
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/argentina-threatens-to-fine-analysts-who-predict-30-percent-inflation-2011-2#ixzz1JToFOGhG
All Argentine consulting firms that calculated an inflation rate higher than the official 10.9 percent has received a letter from the government today. They've been given 48 hours to explain their calculation or face a $125,000 fine, according to the FT.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/argentina-threatens-to-fine-analysts-who-predict-30-percent-inflation-2011-2#ixzz1JToFOGhG
Argentina’s Economic Freedom: Corroded by Pervasive Cronyism
http://www.businessinsider.com/argentina-threatens-to-fine-analysts-who-predict-30-percent-inflation-2011-2#ixzz1JToFOGhG
@ 105
Apr 14th, 2011 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Islander with no relevant studies or qualifications whatsoever
What's his degree in Think?
;-)
(107) WestisBest
Apr 14th, 2011 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well........................he is your Director of Mineral Resources.
You could find out yourself (if interested :-)
You don't need the help of an ”ignorant corrupt Argentinean Diago to Think.... Do you?
@102 Billy Hayes, what business is it of yours how we run our government. You clearly do not know how our government works. As yet we are not going to ask Britain to leave. We want them to stay and its got nothing to do with you or your country. Mind your own business. You do not tell us what to do in OUR OWN land.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0(107) WestisBest
Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You got a point!......I assumend wrongly :-(
The boy has a degree in geology.
The boy has 1 (one) published article. (A whole 6 pages one, together with the H. Emma Edwards)
The boy Is a Consultant for the Oilies in Malvinas.
The boy is a Luxton.
The boy is inquestionably the best man for the job.
Congratulations
@108,
Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I did know what his degree was think, I went to school with him after all. I was being ironical.
The boy is inquestionably the best man for the job.
It's good to hear you say that think, just when I was thinking we'd never hear any sense from you.
Emma has a masters in petroleum geology. Just in case anyone was interested.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Phyl Rendell has no relevant qualifications at all, apart from being a talented manager of people and budgets.
Perhaps you think we should pay over the odds and get someone in from overseas? How very colonial of you.
Happily we have immigration rules in place that ensure that if an islander is good enough to do the job, then they do it.
That's good enough; not better than anyone else in the entire world because that would be ridiculous (and expensive).
Or perhaps you think that anyone who has any relation with anyone else in public life or business should be excluded?
That wouldn't leave us with many people to choose from,would it?
(111) WestisBest
Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to dissapoint you again and again and……......... I was being a bit ”ironical” too about the ”best man” part……………..
(112) Monty69
You say:
Or perhaps you think that anyone who has any relation with anyone else in public life or business should be excluded? That wouldn't leave us with many people to choose from, would it?
I say:
That is exactly the central problem; you don’t have many people to choose from…..........
But appointing a local Oil Companies Consultant as the governmental director in charge of negotiating and controlling those same Oil Companies is to stretch the elastic a bit toooooooooooooooooooooooo much.
The Skuas story again.
Wolves guarding the sheep…………………………..
fortunately think your opinion about Stephens suitability for the job is every bit as relevant as your opinion on any other Falkland Islands Government appointment..... not at all.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Have a nice day.
More sage advice from El (you dont want to do it like that) Think
Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txp19ZNtFn8&feature=related
(114)
Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May all your ewes calve twins............
110 Naughty naughty Chuckles. You shouldn't tell lies and when you get found out the least you should do is apologise....profusely.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think it was a lie, exactly. Just an assumption.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think does let his prejudices lead him into error from time to time. I've remarked on it before.
Brainwash, anyone?
(118) Monty69
Apr 14th, 2011 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren’t we all, lead by our prejudices?
Question is how much and for how long!
And………………….. what we do against them.
In this specific case it took me… let’s see : (05:18 am to 10:15 am) Less than five hours to put things right.
Brainwash anybody?
119 Only after your lie, I mean your wrong assumption was exposed by Westisbest.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think you have 'put things right'; that is a matter of opinion, and any reasonable person would see your more recent responses as a litany of excuses.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I note again you refuse to admit your mistake, or apologise for it, you're obviously not man enough to do so.
apologise ? no hope and bob hope hes a argie and they are never wrong :-)
Apr 14th, 2011 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ooooooooooooopss…..
Apr 14th, 2011 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rockflopper Exploitation: Down 11.00% today to 247.75 p
Despair Petrel: Down 5.70% today to 37.25 p
Arghhhhos: Down 4.26% today to 30.76p
17 days since Ninka’s spudding……...
Prime Time for Rumors…..
Rumorson the North Malvinas Basin ain't good …….. For the Brutish….
With a bit of luck................... Despire will soon Expire........
Chuckle chuckle
El Think
@116
Apr 14th, 2011 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What ever gave you the idea I owned any sheep Think? assumptions are the mother of all fuckups...and you just keep making them.
May all your cows calve triplets then ;-)
Apr 14th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apart from Argentina being unlikely to afford $10 and a pea shooter, how would you get from British Columbia to the Falkland Islands on the welfare you're claiming?
Apr 14th, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a nutter.
I don't think he's insane, this appears to be a simple case of the stupids.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@126 Sorry, it's not right. We disagree with them on many issues. Maybe he wanted to be ironic, but be careful. There are many crazy people in this world!!!.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0129, you're right .... they are all together in a big party in Libya right now....doesn´t matter cheap oil soon in UK and USA
Apr 14th, 2011 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@125
Apr 14th, 2011 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I haven't got any cows either.
Assumption again think, you don't know that much about us really do you?
@126
I do wish you'd pull your head out of your arse long enough for someone to give you the kick in the teeth that you so richly deserve. You horrible little twat.
Where's Beef? When the oil bussiness in Malvinas are down he hides under the bed, not to mention his prediction about Libya's leader several weeks ago.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About the qualifications of the new Director of Mineral Resources:
He likes to be called Bogmonster
Occupation: Dust extraction
Interests: Bombing around!
He loves Land Rovers
His best statement:A Boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by fibreglass, into which you throw money...
Impressive!
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16812
@ 132
Apr 14th, 2011 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jees you argies need to get out more, looks like the Director has a wicked sense of humor if the name of his boat is any thing to go by :-))))
@130 In the absence of Argie oil in the Malvinas , Libyan oil is good.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(131) WesisBest
Apr 15th, 2011 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...........
No sheep...… no cows….... but you say you’re a farmer in Gran Malvina?
That doesen’t leave many options left.
Ahhhhh!....... Porciners!..... That explains why you are such a ***-headed one ;-)
Pls. contact Monty69’s husband, Mr.M ....ASAP.
He is literally dying to buy some piglets………….
Sigh...I never said I was a farmer think, YOU did.
Apr 15th, 2011 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Assumption..assumption..assumption...get a grip man.
Ooohhh yes you did…………...........................
Apr 15th, 2011 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You may have been sarcastic.
You may have been ironic.
Yo may have been joking.
But you did……………….
”2 WestisBest Nov 19th, 2010
……….”Are you reading this Israel? Ooohhhh, one of those ignorant sheep farmers taking an interest in RG affairs again...how dare we! :-)”
Anyhow. Tank’s for correcting my wrong assumption.
May all your wives give birth to quadruplets ;-)
@137
Apr 15th, 2011 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take it you are salaried for posting on here,if not you are one sad and lonely stalker
NEVER FORGET
Apr 15th, 2011 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0ISLAS MALVINAS ARGENTINA.
#127 LOL you let me worry about the money,you just make sure to not become collateral damage..
#131 hope and wishfull thinking is the bread for the poor in spirit, keep wishing son, that might the only satisfaction God will ever give you, there aren't enought men in your community to do your wishes, when you do find one send him too me, I'll make sure he gets the kind of treatment he deserves, make sure he is not a homo, I don't beat up on women, Chilren or the mentally ill.
I don't beat up on women, Chilren or the mentally ill
Apr 15th, 2011 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is nice to know with all your problems you dont self harm
Think, presuming too much again. btw, never heard of gran malvina, what is it? a mountain in the Andes, perhaps?
Apr 15th, 2011 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@139 I You, my lad are a complete raving lunatic. More to be pitied than laughed at.
(141) Cher Isolde
Apr 15th, 2011 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you mean WestisBest........
Yeahhhh… I “assume” easily when people call themselves ”Sheep Farmers”………. that they are Sheep Farmers.....
If you mean Grizelda's son.......
Well.... I assumed that when neither Mercopress nor Sartma, nor the FIG(leaf) nor he nor anybody else made any mention of any competence giving degrees then…………… His degree’s and his degree's degree's are apparently a well guarded secret :-)
By the way………….
You never gave your opinion or ”stamp of approval” in the discussion about MercoPress; the official FIG(leaf) Publicity Agency…………
Why are all the RG's so upset at Mercopress carrying stories written in the Falkland Islands by Falkland Islanders. Do you think they shoud be stifled and not reach the light of day. Would that suit your pontificating about free journalism.
Apr 15th, 2011 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Merco (if you hadn't noticed) is an English language publication - one of very few in South America. It is natural therefore that people who think, speak and write in English would submit articles to an English language organisation.
And before you all go ballistic, we know the BA Herald is an English language paper. But it neither solicits nor prints articles or opinions from the Falkland Islands. Wonder why that is.....don't like the story, don't print the article ?
It is the right and practice of the free press all over the world to be partizan, and it is in most free democratic countries, and even in yours. Sartma would be massively amused to hear of FIG control over it; whoever made that comment really does know little about us. Your pet spy needs a kick up the arse.
And as for Stephen, he is a strong and very capable manager. And he vividly remembers being expelled from his homeland as a small boy, not knowing if he would ever return.
Well guys he's back, and it won't do you any favours. You had your chances in '96 to put in a decent bid to co-operate in exploration here and you flunked it. Sometimes its hard to go back, so better to live for the future.
Keep on whingeing and have a nice day.
It is deeply sad, Mercopress is neither pro or anti-FIG, it still reports the stories from Argentina about the Argentine claim, often in terms that I am sure Falkland Islanders do find offensive. But what really sticks in their craw is the fact that they also print stories written in the Falklands by Falklanders and they don't like free speech, they'd much rather that this be suppressed, hidden and never see the light of day.
Apr 15th, 2011 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@137
Apr 15th, 2011 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0……….”Are you reading this Israel? Ooohhhh, one of those ignorant sheep farmers taking an interest in RG affairs again...how dare we! :-)”
Just might have been ironic think given that I used the collective and who I was replying to, you know the rhetoric that the Argie ranters such as him use when refering to Falkland Islanders, squatters, illegal aliens, a few sheep farmers et al.
@142
Grizelda's SON think?? they kept that quiet.
;-)))
Well.........What to expect….
Apr 15th, 2011 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never been good at keeping track with my own misuses and all them kids!
Out with Grizelda then…..
In with Patricia.
mwaaa hahaha....this is all very funny
Apr 16th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, your obsession with people's real identities is leading you into some truly hilarious errors, if you only knew it.
My advice is to forget all that and concentrate on what people say on here. It's the only thing you can know for sure.
@141 Hello Isolde, The name of Gran Malvina is in the second title of Argentine sovereignty.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is in the document of British recognition of Spanish sovereignty over the islands, see lower part of page 210.
http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=Ip-9_W7efbAC&pg=PA210&dq=The+struggle+for+the+falkland+island&hl=es&ei=FtagTbrpN-Pj0gGAm_CHBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20struggle%20for%20the%20falkland%20island&f=false
(147) Monyy69
Apr 16th, 2011 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obsession?................ What obsession?
Anyhow,……… Making you smile makes my day worthwhile... dearest.
And that’s for sure :-)
#148 I have that book, it doesn't say any such thing.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 150 Justin, I'm showing. This is the treaty of January 22, 1771 that Pascoe and Pepper hide.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No they don't, you clearly have not read their paper.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Well, anyway you have a copy of the book of Goebel. There is also the same text.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I do, and that doesn't change anything.
Apr 16th, 2011 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the British won the dispute of 1771 it would be surprising if they accepted any interpretation acknowledging Spain's sovereignty. Usual crap from Marvin.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Morning all, been holidaying! Anything happening? Falkland Islands still British? Of course they are..... after all, the matter was sorted .... in 1771 ....... and for good in 1833 ..... with a little reinforcement in 1982 !
Sorted :-)
@148Malvinense, unfortunately that means nothing, Malvin as Argentina has no sovereignty over the Falkland lslands.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Apr 17th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7lV6MNBVs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7lV6MNBVs&feature=player_embedded
Double standards anybody?
Double - talk anybody?
Brainwash anybody?
No.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have laws on Green Belt land for a reason, to prevent uncontrolled development. They built without planning permission on land they knew they would never get planning permission for.
If I were to do the same, the result would be the same. We have seen many examples where people have had homes demolished because they built without planning permission on Green Belt land. They weren't Gypsies so the Gruniad had no drum to beat.
This has nothing to do with race, it is raised as a red herring to distract from the fact they are in this position as they have behaved illegally.
But hey don't let the facts get in the way of having a pop will you?
Happy now Think
Apr 17th, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gypsy site near Nantwich wins planning permission on appeal
http://www.crewechronicle.co.uk/crewe-news/local-crewe-news/2011/01/26/gypsy-site-near-nantwich-wins-planning-permission-on-appeal-96135-28053179/
Its relevance to the topic?
Apr 17th, 2011 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0(158) and (160)
Apr 17th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ohhh……….. Silly me……
I didn't Think about the “Green Belt Land” rules…..
Those all important British City Council Planning Regulations that supersede all other known human legislation as, f. ex., the UN bill of Human Right and the Magna Charta, rendering them obsolete and irrelevant……………….
Brainwash anybody?
@149
Apr 17th, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obsession?................ What obsession?
Oh come on think, stop kidding yourself. You latch onto what you perceive as a clue to peoples identities like a starving remora in your efforts to appear savvy. Frankly it would be a bit pathetic if it wasn't for the way it gets you into such amusing corners soooo often.
Uhhhhhhhh.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0That’s a mighty fine appellative coming from you……… my “non farmer” foe……..
A starving remora
Must remember it………………
Didn't know Magna Carta had a planning section.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bet the planning fees have gone up since then.
Right of Appeal and Public Consultation were probably added later.
Local Democracy you cannot beat it.
So of no relevance, hijacking a discussion off on a sidetrack based on the fact that Magna Carta is somehow incompatible with planning regulations. Seen some desperate crap from our Argentine contributors but claiming planning regulations are in violation of Magna Carta is beyond the scraping of the barrel.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, nice to see Falkland Islanders continuing with a policy of giving positions to Falklanders rather than ex-pats.
Another nail in Argentine's coffin in the Falklands.
@163
Apr 17th, 2011 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt you will remember it think, not that it matters if you don't as it'll be neatly categorised under the 'westisbest' tag in your database of mercopress sommentators.
PS: Don't even bother trying to deny that you have such a database....el stalkero.
;-)
@155 Red, hahahaha. You made me laugh. Regards.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 156 Isolde, Just wanted to show the existence of the Gran Malvina name in the document of the British recognition of Spanish sovereignty.
I know this does not change anything...... for now.
kisses for you.
@157
Apr 17th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course there is always the argie way of dealing with things
A 19-year old man was killed and at least nine people were seriously injured in a violent clash between residents in the Villa Soldati area and squatter families settling in the Indoamericano Park nearby, the head of the SAME emergency services confirmed.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/53683/one-more-dead-nine-injured-after-villa-soldati-residents-collide-with-squatters-in-bloody-confrontation
Rulers fear anarchy in Argentina squatter riots
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/53683/one-more-dead-nine-injured-after-villa-soldati-residents-collide-with-squatters-in-bloody-confrontation
'Sad farewell for HMS Cumberland ”
Apr 17th, 2011 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/forces/3531033/Sad-farewell-for-HMS-Cumberland.html
Stephen Luxton opinion:
:“A Boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by fibreglass, into which you throw money...”
Glad I amuse you Marvin. Only the Argies could take a defeat and then try to claim it as a victory. No recognition of Spanish sovereignty, rather the contrary.
Apr 17th, 2011 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which is of course, why we are still there :-)
The papers are not Gardel. But sing. I know this does not change anything...... for now.☻
Apr 18th, 2011 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@157
Apr 18th, 2011 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course there is always the argie way of dealing with things
Argentina: Indigenous peoples forcibly evicted from their ancestral lands
www.forestpeoples.org/topics/rights-land-natural-resources/news/2010/11/argentina-indigenous-peoples-forcibly-evicted-thei
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