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‘Argentina’s protectionism’ the great obstacle for EU/Mercosur trade talks

Friday, April 15th 2011 - 00:01 UTC
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European Union’s top trade negotiator, Karel de Gucht, accused Argentina of being “the great obstacle” in an association agreement between the EU and Mercosur, and threatened to take the case before the WTO. Read full article

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  • Pirat-Hunter

    I don't think Argentina needs to be threatened by thugs, lets not forget that Argentina's economy was doing a lot better without the help of pirats. I think it's about time we cut the umbilical cord of our pesty europid cancerous heritage. I hear China, Pakistan and India's economy are growing faster then many EU members..the only thing I can add to the EU thugs threats of going to WTO is, Thanks! but no thanks, and maybe WTO can expain to us, why would we trade with france or brits anything when they violate other nations self determination, I wonder if france and UK expect Argentina to pay for oil thefted from Malvinas Argentina ?
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
    NEVER FORGET!

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    1 Pirate-Hunter-------And you know everything about thugs don't you , and yes we Brits will expect you to pay for oil from the Falklands if the islanders decide to sell it to you seeing that they own it. And you have a nerve to lecture us on violating other people self determination when your country is one of the worst for doing that, Oh and by the way if you take a look I have shown you how to spell Pirate, if you are going to insult us do it right and spell the word pirate properly. you are quite right on one thing though WE NEVER FORGET.

    We never forget that we can never trust your country.
    We never forget that you invaded a peaceful Island in 1982.
    We never forget that you would do it again at the drop of a hat if you had the capabilities.
    We never forget that your country tries to bully every country in South America
    we never forget how your country kidnaped and killed many people.
    We never forget that you would have done the same to the people of the Falklands.

    In short we never forget anything that you people do.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    That is right, pirat-hunter, we never forget. And do you know what? We don't trust your country. If there is any oil, then it is ours. lt has not been“thefted” from anyone. l used to hope that there was no oil. Now l hope they find a lot, so we can rub your noses in it. Thugs

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “and maybe WTO can expain to us, why would we trade with france or brits anything when they violate other nations self determination,”

    You don't have to, sell your goods elsewhere...if you can ;-),

    “I wonder if france and UK expect Argentina to pay for oil thefted from Malvinas Argentina ?”

    What's France got to do with that...or the UK for that matter, AFAIK there's not going to be a nationalised oil industry in the Falklands so you'd be buying from a company rather than a nation, I expect that given your history and attitude towards payment that you might be offered COD terms anyway...if you're lucky, more likely it'll be payment in advance.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Anything to keep Argentine Meat products out of the EU would be fine with me.
    Don't understand bit about buying Falklands oil. When any oil is refined you wouldn't know where its came from.
    Maybe Argentina will go 100% renewable. It has plenty of wind and perhaps it can exploit solar a bit more with the on-going desertification of much of its territory. Happy days.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • riomarcos

    Argentina has no interest in free trade, it reaps all the advantages Mercosul has brought to it without ever contributing anything. Brazil is a big enough economy to sign a FTA with the EU on its own. It really doesn't need the peripheral countries bogging it down in their failed economic policies quagmire

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Yes, I also am beginning to think that Brasil, UR & PA would be better off distancing themselves from Argentina and entering into non-Mercosur trade agreements with the EU along the lines negotiated by Peru and Colombia (as opposed to C.A.N.).

    Argentina might find a friend in Venezuela and, perhaps, Cuba. Mexico may also be interested in such a new partnership of nations. VE & ME have enough money to stop AR & CU from starving; they could, at a pinch, actually buy them and run them - until the ferrets start doing what ferrets always do..

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    Really geoff? There is nothing Argentina can get from a bankrupt country like uk!!
    No need of free trade,we have the resources,not uk...

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    oil?

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    No need of free trade,we have the resources

    its not what you got,its how you use it

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    Let us do,wathever we want to do with the resources.brit corporations: OuT of Argentina!

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @9

    Fine, you could sell your stuff elsewhere or continue selling to the UK as you have in the past.....let's see what happens shall we.

    Enjoy your ranting Tte.
    ;-)

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Shocked to learn that Argentina had foot and mouth as recently as 2006.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    The Argentina government has permanent foot and mouth disease. Every time they open their mouth they put their foot in it.

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    Shocked to learn that Argentina had foot and mouth as recently as 2006.
    Really shocked to know that uk had MAD COW disease infected people in 2009 and 165 died of it in uk!!

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Well not quite right but that maybe due to your crap English. Anyway take a look at this link.

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46666

    Makes you proud doesn't it

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    “Well not quite right but that maybe due to your crap English. Anyway take a look at this link.”,says 'be serious'
    I think you should go to school again,and study,English as a second language.
    Some good courses in English:
    http://www.1-language.com/
    http://www.1-language.com/
    I will recomend to go for the Basic,and after a couple of years go to the intermediate level!

    Again shocked to learn that in the uk died om BSE.
    Curiosly the Malvinas reported one case,and none in Argentina,having a much larger herd.
    It is notable that there are no cases reported in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, New Zealand, Uruguay, and Vanuatu where cattle are mainly fed outside on grass pasture
    http://www.1-language.com/

    Epidemic in British cattle
    The first confirmed animal to fall ill with the disease occurred in 1986 in the United Kingdom, lab tests the following year indicated the presence of BSE; it was only in November 1987 that the British Ministry of Agriculture accepted it had a new disease on its hands.[20] Subsequently, 165 people (up until October 2009) acquired and died of a disease with similar neurological symptoms subsequently called vCJD, or (new) variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.[6]
    http://www.1-language.com/
    CJD Deaths Rising­
    Mad Cow Disease May
    Kill 500,000 Britons
    http://www.1-language.com/
    Regards

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    18 You seem upset?

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    #19,Not really 'be serious',I just do not like inacurracias and lies!
    Other than that,I am having a lot of fun!
    Regards

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    I ask you,
    is it fair that Argentina should stop the flow of new trade by Brasil, Uruguay and Paraguay with the EU?

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    20 I'm so pleased.
    Think though you lapsed a bit into Spanish though, in your excitement.
    You are a funny guy!
    Anyway it turns out that Britain isn't objecting to opening up its agricultural markets to Mercosur. Its the French, Irish, Polish. Romanians, Italians, Belgians, Slovenians, Swedish, Portuguese etc. So I guess you, tool and tit have been insulting one of the few EU states that supports importing Argentinian crap. Its a funny old world.
    Bet you cant wait to start chomping on a bit of British prime steak. You cant beat a bit of bully. Keep smiling.

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    regardless of all this bullshit back and forth ..No, I'm better than you crap, the name of Tte Estevez should not be used in vain, he was a fellow officer that gave his life for his country. I do have a problem with this .....(no personal attack intended). Thanks

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    I agree, it is bad form to use this dead person's name to hide behind in your personal rants.
    Easily changed, & I hope to welcome you back under a less contentious pseudonym.

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    you are too polite Geoff , using the name of a fallen comrade to fight with the brits in this forum is uncalled for .....

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    Thanks,Geoff and artillero,for your kinds compliments.But I think I do not have a rant.As far as Tte estevez,I do not think is misused.
    Have a nice day guys!!

    Apr 20th, 2011 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    OK, but if Sr. Estevez was my dad, I'd be a bit upset.

    Apr 20th, 2011 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    But he is not you father Geoff..Depend of the intentions,rigth?
    This is for the admiration and to mantain the memory of an unselfish person.....
    Regards

    Apr 21st, 2011 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Ok, but you have set the bar really high for the quality of you comments. Too high for me.

    Apr 21st, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • artillero601

    Again, the use of a fallen camrade's name as a punch line to debate crap is not OK and again @28 this is not personal against you ....there are some things that are a matter of principle ..... Do you follow ?

    Apr 21st, 2011 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    If you think it is crap my stuff,why do you read it?
    Do you follow?

    Apr 21st, 2011 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @31Tte Estevez, even upsetting your own countrymen?
    we read your crap for amusement.

    Apr 22nd, 2011 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    You are sooo kind isolde....Coming from a brainless like you,it is a lot.
    Regards from the most important country in the SOuth Atlantic: Argentina!!

    Apr 22nd, 2011 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @33T.E, l think you'll find that Brazil is the most important country in South America. l am not being kind to you, but l should be l suppose. One should never laugh at the afflicted.

    Apr 23rd, 2011 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard

    Yes, yess . . ..
    BRRAAASSSSIIIILLLLL.
    GOOOAAAALLLLL !!!!

    Apr 23rd, 2011 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tte Estevez

    What I mean,The South of the South Atlantic isolde,in any case it is not the uk,or any other extracontinental country,like uk whant her to believe.
    geof as usual with good jokes!!1

    Apr 24th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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