HMS Invincible the flagship of the Task Force that recovered the Falkland Islands in 1982 and later served in Bosnia in 1995 and Iraq in 1998 and 1999 has reached her final resting place: a recycling yard in Aliaga, heart of the Turkey’s ship-breaking industry. Read full article
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Jun 01st, 2011 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -1http://www.moving-overseas-guide.com/turgutreis-turkey.html
http://www.moving-overseas-guide.com/turgutreis-turkey.html
Yul, all ships, like all humans have a lifespan- and die, its normal! Anyway Mercopress slipped up- HMS Hermes was flagship in 1982 - she was sold later to the Indian Navy and probably razorblades also by now as she was built in the 1950s.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Islander1:
Jun 01st, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1She's still going strong as the flagship of the Indian navy. 60 years strong till 2020 when she gets chopped up.
UK arrives to scrap-metal yard in Turkey.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Better than rusting at the bottom of the ocean ! How is the Belgrano ?
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Resting in peace like 7 British ships in Argentinean waters, thanks for asking.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Zethee, wow- sme tough old lady then! Shows how ell we build them. Marcos - I count 4 RN vessels sunk in 1982 and 2 of those are in international waters outside limits, 1 RFA also later sunk by the British-NOT Argentina - in international waters as a war grave, and one merchant ship also in International waters - what was No 7?
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0So only 2 are in our waters - which you claim.
Funny how someone can win the number game yet still loose.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sunk more ships, had more troops, more aircraft. Still failed.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1They do seem to have a problem getting their facts straight !
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse +18 Zethee
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse -1I agree, Britain in Iraq is a perfect example of that.
11: No, it isn't.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +112 Yes, it is.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -112 Yes, it is.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +1the number game
Right, time to make you look like an idiot again, shouldn't take long. Your post indicated that somehow the UK had a mass numerical advantage in IRAQ and still lost.
Wrong on both accounts. The first part of the war the saddams army was larger than the US-UK army and fell in weeks with little loss on our side.
After this war we reduced out numbers from around 50,000 to about 2-3,000. No numerical advantage, also our military goals were not lost.
Both on wrong accounts.
In Iraq your government claim a victory every day, however you lost the war and left using the back door. Great job in Basra!
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -115- please list some of the victories you say UK claimed each day in Iraq? Is Iraq now free of a nasty Dictator and goverend by a reasonable(not perfect by western standards Ok- but reasonable)? - answer is Yes. Therfore we achieved our aim.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Although I would agree we should not have actually done it in the first place - but we achieved it.
Still asking you to explain your sums on ships sunk and where in 1982?
In Iraq your government claim a victory every day, however you lost the war and left using the back door. Great job in Basra!
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Cry as much as you want mate. What i said still stands.
We had two goals - Get rid of Saddam(Something that was done in an amazingly quick period with little casualtys, something overlooked)
And to train the army, This we did.
Anything else is opinion.
Britain went to Iraq to train their army? :-)))))
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Britain and US went to Iraq under the pretext of Weapons of mass destruction, never found but I have to admit some companies made a lot of money, Halliburton( Cheney former CEO) and BP with great oil deals, just to name a few.
The result? the dead of hundreds of thousands of innocents civilians.
Get rid of Saddam? Not that long ago this animal was shaking hands with his good friends, US and UK, including shaking hands with Cheney. At the same time Saddam was using poison gas against his own people. Sounds familiar? w Libya perhaps?
Government ‘gave public false hopes’ on achieving Iraq goals
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article2610058.ece
16 Islander1
Not interested to list the name of sunken ships from a long ago stupid war that I did not support in the first place.
It's like talking to a complete idiot. Read what i said.
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +1We had two goals
Once we got rid of saddam our military was mostly pulled out, the remaining men were there to train the Iraq army.
Hundreds of thousands eh! No exaggeration?
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse +1http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/uk-involvement/
Of course, some of these would have happened anyway and Saddam's regime would have added to their own tally!
Oh, and 30 years is not 'long ago' ... you are merely giving your youth away! In fact 30 years is so close as to be burnt into the collective British consciousness and is the most recent reason that the Falkland Islands will be defended at all costs!
20 Zethe, The botton line is that Britain lost the Iraq war, Tony Blair tricked all British like idiots and now he is a multi millionare and all of you are broke or getting there.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse -1Rotted In fact 30 years is so close as to be burnt into the collective British consciousness
Is your nose still bleeding?
Get over it.
No, MoreCrap, I won't 'get over it' .... and nor will the British people !
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zethe, The botton line is that Britain lost the Iraq war
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, Thats your opinion. Aswell as the opinion of a couple pissed of american Generals who wanted us to stay longer when we left.
The FACT(Google this word) is that we completed both of our objectives.
HMS Hermes (originally called HMS Elephant in her first year of construction) was laid down far earlier than that Zethee, her construction started in June 1944, and was suspended at the end of WWII for seven years.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She's currently the flagship of the Indian navy, as INS Viraat, where it is planned for her to be still active until 2020, 60 years after she was commissioned into the RN.
23 zethe , Sorry not even that, Saddam was found by the Americans and hanged by his own people.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -122 Rotted, You sound like those japanese soldiers found in the jungle decades after the war ended.
Get over it.
Sorry not even that, Saddam was found by the Americans and hanged by his own people.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Sigh, I said we, as in the UK and the US goals in Iraq were completed.
You're just arguing semantics because clearly you lack the mental capacity to put forth a decent rebuttal.
I am not arguing anything I am just telling you that Britain lost the Iraq war.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1War in Iraq: worst moment in UK history - British MP
“With 179 British lives lost and ten billion pounds spent, there will be no celebrations, no parades or marches or flags out to mark the end of the war. And all we seem to have achieved is we have replaced one rotten government with another rotten government,” stated Flynn.
And I believe today it is one of the worst moments of our history,”
I remember the quiet day we lost the war in Iraq
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3633818/I-remember-the-quiet-day-we-lost-the-war-in-Iraq.html
Remember that discussion we had earlier about facts and opinions.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Thats your and some other peoples opinion.
The facts are that the UK achieved its goals.
The only goal that was achieved is the destruction of a nation, the worst part of it is that the two illegal invaders had to pay for the reconstruction of the same nation that they destroy earlier.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1We went into Iraq to get Saddam and he was got ... sounds like a win to me.
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1And MoreCrap, you are not listening, NO, we won't get over it. As a result Argentina will not get its grubby little hands on the Falkland Islands. You need to get used to that!
H.M.S. Invincible.
Jun 04th, 2011 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sunk by the RG's in 1982! Going to Turkey in 2011.
It is a miracle! She must become a Saint!
LOL
Yes yes you went to Iraq to get Saddam....sounds like Bush and his dog Blair brainwashed your brains with gasoline.
Jun 04th, 2011 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse -1The worse thing about being brainwashed is that once you are brainwashed, it is very difficult to be aware of it. Your brainwashed state of mind and actions is completely normal to you.
Malvinas is part of Argentina and that stupid short war ended almost 30 years ago.
Get over it.
30 years? Is that all? A blink of an eye ................. you really are young!
Jun 04th, 2011 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1And wrong obviously ... the Falkland Islands have NEVER been a part of Argentina. Not historically, not legally ..... not even geographilly (if there is such a word).
Get a lfe, young 'un!
“We had two goals”
Jun 04th, 2011 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse -1Once we got rid of saddam our military was mostly pulled out, the remaining men were there to train the Iraq army.
Only a dumb fuck potato head with bad teeth believes this crap what it heard on BBC.
Zethee, you're a champ (chump).
:-))))))))))))))
Jun 04th, 2011 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse -1You all commenters , have any idea about -- Xe Service -- ? NO !
Jun 04th, 2011 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's tell it ...you learn it ...
Zayed Military City,has instructional camp in desert of UAE,a secret army is the making...
This Secret Army is used not only in Emirates throughout Mid-East,
North Africa,which ruled by Eric Price commander to the Navy Seals
which 1997 founded by Pentagon !..in 2009 renamed to -- Xe Service--.
In several countries South Africa,Colombia...to form 1000 men practiced
UAE by British,French,German military professionals...
Abu Dhabi funds the billions of dollars...
The main supporter and sponsor of this project is Prince Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al Nahayyan who practiced in the
British Military Academy Sandhurst...
This Secret Army is also sent to Libya,divided into two territories similar
as in Irak,Afganistan..
This Secret Army( Xe Service) 's aim :
/protect the oil areas in the hands of Wetern companies
/eliminate opponents
/keep the countries weak and divided....
@36ed,
Jun 04th, 2011 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes we know ed. We've got them here protecting our working oil wells that Argentina doesn't know about.
”Only a dumb fuck potato head with bad teeth believes this crap what it heard on BBC.
Jun 04th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee, you're a champ (chump).”
Such an angry little person :-)
Our forces were reduced from 50,000 to about 3,000 just left to train the army. Prove me wrong if you like, or you could try more of the same insults you've been using for the last year, they make you look oh so cool!
Got bad news for you Fido (isn't that a dogs name?) - telling a Britisher that he has bad teeth is not an insult. Unlike the Yanks, and presumably the Argentines, we are not hung up on our molars. If you've got some and they work, that's fine :-^
Jun 04th, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway time for a joke to lighten the moment.
Jun 04th, 2011 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Three guys, one Irish, one English, and one Argentinian, are out
walking along the beach together one day. They come across a lantern
and a genie pops out of it.
I'll give you each one wish, says the genie, that's three wishes in
total.
The Irish guy says, I am a fisherman, my dad's a fisherman, his dad
was a fisherman and my son will be one too. I want all the oceans full
of fish for all eternity. So, in the blink of an eye - FOOM! - the
oceans are teaming with fish.
The Argentinian is amazed so he says, I want a wall around Argentina,
protecting her, so that no one will get in for all eternity. Again, in
the blink of an eye - POOF! - there's a huge wall around Argentina.
The Englishman asks, I'm very curious. Please tell me more about this
wall.
Well, it's about 150 feet high, 50 feet thick, protecting Argentina
so that nothing can get in or out, the genie explains.
Fill it up with water said the English man.
:-)
Jun 04th, 2011 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brits have the most unfunny sense of humor :-((((
Jun 05th, 2011 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse -1We do as we find RG's totally stupid with your inability to read and understand what is true and what is false.
Jun 05th, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse +1You still have not told me the name of the RG Governor of the Falklands in 1823.
Brits have the most unfunny sense of humor
Jun 05th, 2011 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse +1And you argies have the best
Las Malvinas Son Argentinas
That always cracks me up
44:
Jun 05th, 2011 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0+1
@44 suyjumper,
Jun 05th, 2011 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has Malvina got a son?
Yes, Adam.
Jun 05th, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Don't forget to pay the bill at the Comodoro Rivadavia birth center :-)
“If all South American ports do decide to block all access to Falkland Islands-flagged vessels,” Adam Cockwell, a manager of Work Boat Services Ltd. said, “then it raises a serious issue for us as we will not be able to go to any ports for our dry docking requirements.”
ooopppsss
They can just build a dry dock with all that oil money.
Jun 05th, 2011 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oooppppppsss
@1 yul,
Jun 06th, 2011 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse +1Very pretty country, yul. And as l said, l love the food.
Another joke, seeing as we're in the mood: Few people know that the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh stopped in Argentina on their 1954 world tour. They met secretly with Peron who wanted to discuss something with them.
Jun 06th, 2011 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been thinking about changing Argentina to a Kingdom. What do you reckon?
You need a king to have a Kingdom, and you're not a king replied the queen.
Maybe a Princedom, then?
Again the Queen said: For that, you'd need a prince, and you're not a prince.
OK, I'd settle for an Earldom or something like that.
To have an Earldom, you'd have to be an Earl and you're not.
Prince Philip then stuck his oar in: Now, I've had a bit of a look around this nation of yours and met quite a few Argentines and got to know them reasonably well. Based on that, I think Argentina is perfectly suited to being a country.
50 stakeholder (#)----- Nice one, but I fear you will have to explain to the dense liars.
Jun 06th, 2011 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about this one.
A psychologist calls her colleque at 2 am. 'It's an emergency!' she says. 'At two in the morning? It better be good', says her colleque. 'I have a unique client', says the first. 'It's an inferioritiy complex!' 'An inferiority complex? But they're so common!' shouts the colleque. The psychologist reponds, 'Yes, but ... an Argentine.
Is it Halloween Brits or are those your real teeth?
Jun 06th, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -1And MoreCrap, you are not listening, NO, we won't get over it. As a result Argentina will not get its grubby little hands on the Falkland Islands. You need to get used to that!
Jun 06th, 2011 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -1No Problem,lady bug.We just kick out all the brits investment to Argentina,and you will not get any of Argentina to work for you.Everything for us,nothing for you!
fair enough?
Argentina is the world’s 8th largest country ?
Jun 06th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1And great Britain is the 6th biggest investor, with just over 2 billion, .
so any time you wish the brits to withdraw, just give the word, but we think, that as you do not run the country, [lucky for them] they have no intention of refusing British, or any other investments,,
so your anti-British sentiments just fall in the gutter with you mmm
Tte Estevez you are full of nonsense! I hope that you are not a member of the 'fastest retreating army' the world has ever seen? Also the fastest 'crappers' in history as viewed by the civilian population of Stanley on June 14th as they run around 'crapping' everywhere.
Jun 07th, 2011 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse +1Sad git!
SiEster - fair enough !
Jun 07th, 2011 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway back to the Argy insult jokes.
Jun 07th, 2011 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse +1Q. how do you find the richest men in Argentina?
A. Easy toss a coin down the street....
Oooh the Number game! I note that the Argies in their eagerness to salvage some pride rabbit on about those 6 Ships cunningly manage to ignore that they lost 7 ships :)
Jun 07th, 2011 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse +1GENERAL BELGRANO
ISLA DE LOS ESTADOS
Santa Fe
NARWAL
RIO CARCARANA
Rio Iguaza
Bahia Buen Suceso
tsk tsk, that should have more crap running around in a frenzy, speaking of idiots anybody seen that Yank Martin?
Boys, boys please. They are sensitive. Even idiots have feelings, you know.
Jun 07th, 2011 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@58
Jun 07th, 2011 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plus their navy getting a kicking from 22 marines
Lieutenant Mills' detachment of 22 Royal Marines inflicted damage on the Argentine corvette ARA Guerrico,
Yep we are the best at kicking cowardly butts 22 marines kicking the hell out of the Argy pirate cutthroat navy, who would have thought we could have done that. But then they were Argy pirate cutthroats. I think any little British child could have done what the marines did.
Jun 07th, 2011 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0#Isolde /
Jun 07th, 2011 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse -1Pete & Loraine couple is smart to tourism invest at Mediterrenean Region
where No /1 touristic area in the World...is lucky becouse , profitable in Turkey..also they jumped into construction business..
Their hotel is approximately 5/6 km far away from our villa.
There, the selling medium prices of villas/apartments are
60000 -- 80000 Euro.
There are too many British settlers ,I know few French families,Germans are rare but who are commonly at the southern shores of Turkey.
to see the other towns of this region ,click section Bodrum Peninsula
towns names from the right side of below linked web site.
http://www.bodrumlife.com/peninsula_turgutreis.htm
Argy pirate cutthroat navy
Jun 07th, 2011 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More like Failboat.
62 yul (#)-------Quite a few British have second homes in Turkey, they also have second homes in Spain I would not call them settlers, some have retired and decided to spend a few years out there in the sun, some have brought for investment and holiday there and rent out their second homes the rest of the year. I have one with a friend, its not a bad investment, paid nothing like 60000 -- 80000 Euro though we brought it 12 years ago when they were cheap.
Jun 07th, 2011 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 058 Rhaurie,
Jun 07th, 2011 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.naval-history.net/F62brshipslost.htm
Don't forget to pay the bill in Comodoro...and Santiago.
@65
Jun 07th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All them bombs that didnt go off,pity the Argie pilots didnt fly higher so that they could arm like they were designed to,still if they did more of them would of been shot down
Shame the argie navy didnt come out to play to
But they do want to play with the big boys,
Jun 07th, 2011 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sad,then that they are not big enough yet,
perhaps in a century or two lol
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