Spain's dealings with Gibraltar have the overriding objective of recovering sovereignty over the Rock, Spanish Foreign Minister Trinidad Jiménez told parliament in Madrid this week. Read full article
So under the current government, Spain won't discuss Gibraltarian water with Gibraltar.
And under any government the UK won't discuss Gibraltarian water without Gibraltar.
Could it be that there won't be any discussions about Gibraltarian water until after the next election in Spain? Like the general election scheduled for March 2012?
A cycle is closing. From Brussels agreements Spain has tried in good faith to advance the dialogue with the United Kingdom, going so far as to recognize the government of Gibraltar as a partner. But all the doors have been closed in recent months. Spain has, therefore, to return to the top: the situation of 1980, with the fence closed, limited communications and relations with the United Kingdom frozen.
Meanwhile... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnT8LUwHXS8
@7 Spain wouldn't understand the meaning of the words good faith if they jumped up at bit them.
Based on reactions in Gibraltar, the time is not far away when the Spanish will do something in British Gibraltar territorial waters and the Royal Navy will have to sink something Spanish. Gibraltar was ceded to Britain in perpetuity so Jimenez' actions have no legality and no credibility. The people of Gibraltar reject Spanish sovereignty on a level of around 99%. Wonder when Spain will let the concept that it is not wanted filter into the space between its collective ears?
At war was lost,and at war can be recovered. Hasten with the new aircraft-carriers. After all, England intervened in Spain in 1704 as an ally of the King of Spain, and snatched one of their cities with shame and dishonor.
Apparently during a meeting the British admiralty overheard a Spanish admiral say, at least we have carriers, the British haven’t snigger,
The British admiral said the guy, sir, the royal navy may not have a carrier yet, but we have the means sink them, asked what he meant, the admiral replied, well put it this way , sir, if any of our subs came across any of your carriers, then you to won’t have any either , will you.
The Spanish gut shut up and left, as the saying goes, you may not see the navy, but the silent service will always be around, just don’t get in their way, [if you know we mean ] ??
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@ 10 Apart that no Spanish admiral has ever spoken in the British Admiralty, I remind you that Spain has six anti-submarine frigates in Rota, 30 anti-submarine helicopters and 7 P-3 Orion based at Moron, 100 km of the Strait. Anyway, if we wanted we would enter Gibraltar with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN47PkfGn18
But we are lucky that we are allies and that this will never happen. Nobody sinks anything to anyone and the llanitos will continue locked in their burrows.
The only thing Spain enters Gibraltar with is money to buy cigarettes to sell on the black market because its economy has failed, with massive unemployment, no hope of recovery and people in La Linea are starving and dieing on the streets.
The Spanish have already attacked with septic tanks, dumping poo on Western beach. But Gibraltar is hardly tank country. Nor are the Spanish stupid enough to attack someone who could wipe them out with one mouse click.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo under the current government, Spain won't discuss Gibraltarian water with Gibraltar.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And under any government the UK won't discuss Gibraltarian water without Gibraltar.
Could it be that there won't be any discussions about Gibraltarian water until after the next election in Spain? Like the general election scheduled for March 2012?
And then? You´ll go to closed the Fence? Because if in March 2012 the Popular Party wins the election...
Jun 09th, 2011 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0spain---argentina--two peas in a pod.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain should return Ceuta and Melilla, to Morocco. Until it does, it has no standing to ask for Gibraltar.
Jun 09th, 2011 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain will be disappointed.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Rock will become independent long before its handed over to Spain.
And Briton is correct, two peas ... no hope, no chance !
@4 Barcelona,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0My thoughts exactly.
A cycle is closing. From Brussels agreements Spain has tried in good faith to advance the dialogue with the United Kingdom, going so far as to recognize the government of Gibraltar as a partner. But all the doors have been closed in recent months. Spain has, therefore, to return to the top: the situation of 1980, with the fence closed, limited communications and relations with the United Kingdom frozen.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnT8LUwHXS8
@7 Spain wouldn't understand the meaning of the words good faith if they jumped up at bit them.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Based on reactions in Gibraltar, the time is not far away when the Spanish will do something in British Gibraltar territorial waters and the Royal Navy will have to sink something Spanish. Gibraltar was ceded to Britain in perpetuity so Jimenez' actions have no legality and no credibility. The people of Gibraltar reject Spanish sovereignty on a level of around 99%. Wonder when Spain will let the concept that it is not wanted filter into the space between its collective ears?
At war was lost,and at war can be recovered. Hasten with the new aircraft-carriers. After all, England intervened in Spain in 1704 as an ally of the King of Spain, and snatched one of their cities with shame and dishonor.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently during a meeting the British admiralty overheard a Spanish admiral say, at least we have carriers, the British haven’t snigger,
Jun 10th, 2011 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British admiral said the guy, sir, the royal navy may not have a carrier yet, but we have the means sink them, asked what he meant, the admiral replied, well put it this way , sir, if any of our subs came across any of your carriers, then you to won’t have any either , will you.
The Spanish gut shut up and left, as the saying goes, you may not see the navy, but the silent service will always be around, just don’t get in their way, [if you know we mean ] ??
.
@ 10 Apart that no Spanish admiral has ever spoken in the British Admiralty, I remind you that Spain has six anti-submarine frigates in Rota, 30 anti-submarine helicopters and 7 P-3 Orion based at Moron, 100 km of the Strait. Anyway, if we wanted we would enter Gibraltar with this:
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN47PkfGn18
But we are lucky that we are allies and that this will never happen. Nobody sinks anything to anyone and the llanitos will continue locked in their burrows.
The only thing Spain enters Gibraltar with is money to buy cigarettes to sell on the black market because its economy has failed, with massive unemployment, no hope of recovery and people in La Linea are starving and dieing on the streets.
Jun 10th, 2011 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, if we wanted we would enter Gibraltar with this
Jun 12th, 2011 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our tanks are better :-)
The Spanish have already attacked with septic tanks, dumping poo on Western beach. But Gibraltar is hardly tank country. Nor are the Spanish stupid enough to attack someone who could wipe them out with one mouse click.
Jun 12th, 2011 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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