MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
One in six Argentine children aged 5-17 forced to work to help their families
An estimated 17.6% of Argentine children between the age of 5 and 17 living in urban areas are forced to work, according to a report from the Argentine Catholic University, UCA, released last week. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesVery sad. I have seen many children working late at night in Buenos Aires and it is a distressing situation. They miss out on the education that might lead them out of poverty.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the children are not being abused or exploited I cannot see how it harms them. The bigger problem is the spoiled brats of the Affluent who, in the event of an economic downturn, will be unable to help themselves and become a burden on the state.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 2. You support child labour? How can it be anything but abuse and exploitation?
Jun 14th, 2011 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Children should have the right to a childhood and education. Without education they have no hope of getting out of the poverty trap.
US and UK children have to copy Argentine children
Jun 14th, 2011 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to pay back their debts immediately !
There is always a danger of child exploitation. However, this is not a recent problem. During economic studies we analized South America and about 15-20 (if not more) years ago there was an immigration mainly from Bolivia and Paraguay. They go south and try to settle in a big city (Buenos Aires)...and that is not the place to venture amock. That immigration is much different from the european immigration from the early part of the 20th century....culture shock!
Jun 14th, 2011 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad article nonetheless.
@ 5 That's true. They don't settle in La Patagonia, because in CABA we pay for everything.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geo, you have just shown yourself to be a very sick individual, shame on you.
Jun 14th, 2011 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is the kind of thing you expect in the 19th century,
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in this day and age, child labour should be abolished all over the world,
something the powerfull should be ashamed of, but rarely are,
we know in some countries its very hard, but still no exuse . Just a thought .
[] 7 beef
Jun 14th, 2011 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0trying to pay back debts is abnormal behaviour ?
@ 4 They don't have to, they invented child labour:
Jun 14th, 2011 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
@ 8 That's true, it happens everywhere even in “the first world”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcFDUDlRCE
No civilized Country should be letting there children work like this especially children of 5 years of age shame on Argentina for letting this happen, its 2011 not 1811.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 11 this happens in today's UK. Are you living in another planet? Shame on you for living in denial. Nobody's letting this to happen, much less this government of Cristina, with all my dislike of Cristina, I must admit that she's changing many things for good, and after Cristina this country will never be the same again.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You just use this to act the part that you care for poverty haha you'd better stay there living your easy life playing with your iphone :)
Geo - In Argentina it is.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is that this Argentina government does not support the law that all children must attend school, and nothing is done to the parents who do not insist that their children attend school. School is free in Argentina and there is no escuse for not sending the children to school. As long as the government continues to give money to families without any requirements to send their children to school, there will be no education and more begging children will be on nthe streests.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0[] 13 -- Beef
Jun 15th, 2011 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK & USA and some others would try to made their children work
instead of supporting immigrants to cheap jobs..
UK admit 150000-- 200000 immigrants every year since 2003
who are they ?...came to UK what for ?......
[] 14 -- jerry
do you have any data on university diplomaed jobless
in all countries ?.....
This seems an attempt from the crappy catholic church to grab more fresh funds from taxpayers in Argentina.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I personally believe that any religion or church should be supported by the state (lets say we the people).
How much that cost to us?
U$S 625 at year
How much earns an Obispo? 70% of the salary of a Judge lets say that the Ñoquis from god earns $13.000 at month.
And all this money to maintain a structure to create more retarded dinosaurs.
Now lets talk about poverty in UK shall we?
“14 November 2007
Poor children in England as young as five hide their needs from parents to protect them from the impact of poverty, new report reveals
Children as young as five are feeling the effects of living in poverty in England, a new report reveals, with some hiding their needs from their parents or giving their family money they received as gifts. These are just some of the findings revealed in a new, thought-provoking report ‘Living with Hardship 24/7: the diverse experiences of families in poverty in England’ launched today by the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the City of London’s Guildhall, as part of the Campaign to End Child Poverty’s Month of Action.”
Poverty in the UK - the facts[1]
* 3.8 million children (30% or 1 in 3) are living in poverty in the UK today[2]
* Nearly 13 million people are still living below the poverty line
* The number of people living in poverty doubled between 1979 and 1999
In 2005/6 child poverty rose by 100,000 - the first since 1999
For people interested in poverty please visit http://www.endchildpoverty.org.uk/
It is quite shocking in Britain to see teens living on the streets and becoming victims of alcohol, drug dealers, prostitution, child pornography and all sort of things.
Of course British in full denial mode refuse to see the reality in the fantasyland of the kingdom of her crappy queen Elizabeth II.
What can we do?
@14. True words. I was discussing this problem with an Argentine chap - this was in the Salta area, not BsAs - and he was very angry and ashamed about the problem. He urged everyone not to give the children money as they should be attending school. If the children stopped making money for their 'lazy and feckless' parents (his words) they would have a better chance of being allowed to go to school.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 It is about attitude and degrees of poverty. The level by which one is judged to be 'poor' in the UK is just not the same as in developing countries. Also child labour is illegal and unnacceptable in the UK, hence the strict laws. Parents who consistently refuse to send their children to school can be sent to prison and/or lose custody of their children. There are also strict laws on the age/hours teenagers can work. These laws protect children.
I cannot see how anyone would support the idea of child labour or use the defence that 'well, it happens in other courtries'. Yes, it does, but it doesn't make it acceptable. Attitudes have to change first.
Seems the argies cant be bothered if the kids go to school,unlike the Brits
Jun 15th, 2011 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bid to free mother jailed over children's truancy
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-114441/Bid-free-mother-jailed-childrens-truancy.html#ixzz1PLeyyue9
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-114441/Bid-free-mother-jailed-childrens-truancy.html#ixzz1PLeyyue9
the education is relative concept which would be changed according to the societies' demands...
Jun 15th, 2011 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at all international contests almost all anglo/saxon students are unsuccesfull ...why ?...they are educated by controversial moralities,
also with utmost inefficient positive science brances ...no mathematic...
no second and more languages...no logical thinking...no social culture
perceptions..................etc. !
i look at these forums where no any British commentators bring us
any data , statistics , numbers for discussed subjects....why ? becouse
they don't like mathematics and using brains...etc. !
my thought is that they don't deserve to become a rich countries !
@19 If that were even a little true, why is US or UK education at university level so sought after? Is it not true that the wealthy and influential in Argentina and Chile choose to send their children to the US or UK for further education? And the myth you seem to want to believe that UK schools do not teach second and third languages is not true. Two modern foreign languages is pretty standard, and one or two ancient languages is standard in the independent sector. I should know!
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think people generally don't google numerous articles to try to support their argument is that it is a poor substitution for individual thought and discussion. Anyone can google anything. Statistics can be made to say anything.
Getting back to the subject, do you support child labour in Anrgentina or do you think the government should enforce the education of children?
@20 Getting back to the subject, do you support child labour in Anrgentina or do you think the government should enforce the education of children?
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No and Yes ! Do we know for a fact that those are argentine children?
16 NicoDin ---- All countries have poverty some more than others, but unlike your country Britain does not let children of the age of 5 work to support their families and we certainly do not have poverty like your country has.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q-7ilLgF8
You people are so manipulated by the wicked witch its almost laughable, for goodness sake get your act together, as the clip shows your poverty level is 40% of the population and for a supposedly civilized country that is unacceptable, and whats far worse you want to force this poverty on a prosperous few islands called the Falklands
@21 “No and Yes ! Do we know for a fact that those are argentine children?”
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good point! I guess at least some of them are; certainly the children I encountered in Salta were Argentines. At least, that is what the Argentine chap told me, I didn't check their I.D.s or anything. : )
But even if they are economic immigrants, they should live by the laws and values of the country they reside in. I don't know what the laws are regarding child labour in Argentina but I have never seen anyone in authority challenge the children working the streets at midnight in Buenos Aires. Do laws exist?
23 - Of course such laws exist in Argentina, but in almost all cases, the present government officials will not inforce the laws, except selectively to fit their own needs.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HOLD ON !
Jun 15th, 2011 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This a 'report' from a Well Heeled Establishment which is trying to justify it's sputious existence.
Take away the PR waffel and all is left is a statement,of Fact that relates to ANY COUNTRY in the WORLD.
Children are contributing to the support of their OWN FAMILIES,
Close the topic don't give them any more FREE PUBLICITY.
@23 I know that during the “Good old days” (76-84) (and I know I will be crucified for the comment) , the street begging and small children were not seen on the streets of Buenos Aires .....
Jun 15th, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 026 Artillero601------ I wont crucify you, what happend happend its a long time ago, its what happens now that counts.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;-)
Jun 15th, 2011 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# Elaine /
Jun 15th, 2011 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must analysis the social facts inside the non-normative socio/economic disciplines not according to normative law orders.
As you know while 19. and first half of 20. century ,where almost
all countries had children workforce even US and Europa...
Today this socio/econ behaviour is depends on that countries' family
structures,individual perceptions to system,fertility rates,income levels,
their industry kinds have.....
Why US,main Europe countries receive immigrants ?
very simple they have low level fertility rates to sustain their Economy,
be certain of if they were high level fertility rate ,they would make the children work.....
There are no fertility problems just responsible birth control. In general the people believe in having children if they can support them, not producing a cheap labour force. And, yes, immigrants who want to work and make a good life have always been welcomed in the UK and long may it continue. IMO.
Jun 15th, 2011 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The number of children working the streets in Argenitna is beyond acceptable in a country that wants to be considered developed and a powerful country in the future. Attitudes have to change for the sake of children.
No country with an under-educated population will ever achieve development because the lack of an educated work-force will always limit development. And education gives a chance for the next generation so they don't need to have to subject their children to the same terrible fate.
That some posters find it acceptable to work children is very sad indeed. It is not an attitude I have experienced from Argentines I meet. They are ashamed of the begging and feel compassion for the children.
W H A T A L O A D O F BALL COCKS
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@ElaineB
Jun 16th, 2011 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I lived in UK so please make fair comparison in UK some places there is poverty like in Africa.
1- Argentina has toughest law against children being exploited also is signatory of United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) in 1990 and since 1994 it has been included in the National Constitution.
The law 20. 744 of May of 1976, of contract workers. Title VIII.
Forbids the use of minors under 18 year old to be employed, hire, etc. with the exception of minors of 18 year old and older than 14 year old with emancipation (Legal married for example with permit from their parents)
And or over 14 year old with authorisation from their parents to live independently article 33 of the law.
Although our legal system admits to a minor to send to court his/her parents if the minor denounce them or any other person for any abuse.
The stupid that said that to you can go to the justice and make apply the law.
2- The money that parent receives for “Asignación Universal por hijos” has the requirement to provide a certificate of School attendance of the minor and also that have completed the vaccination plan provided by the govt.
Private schools want the subsidy to be paid direct to them so they can put their teeth on it.
ASIGNACION UNIVERSAL POR HIJO: LOS CHICOS QUE CONCURREN A ESCUELAS PRIVADAS CONTINUARÁN COBRANDO
http://www.mediopublico.com.ar/asignacion-universal-por-hijo-el-gobierno-dio-marcha-atras-con-las-suspenciones/
Elaine you have proved what Geo had affirmed Yanks have a tale for that.
“Come and eat in Freddie restaurant a million fly cannot be wrong.”
ElaineB how many languages do you speak? Why we have to go down to English language if you are so educated you should be the one that goes down to communicate to a less educated prospect like us.
When I was in Britain many say to speak a lot of languages but when you wanted to start a conversation they quickly forget everything
Please be objective and BTW what is your core business?
“in UK some places there is poverty like in Africa.”
Jun 16th, 2011 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like in Africa? Where exactly did you see this? I am curious.
Clearly there is no will to enforce the law if so many children are working the streets of Buenos Aires. Indeed, the attitude of some posters on this thread seems to be that there is nothing wrong with working the children of Argentina.
This board requests all comments to be in English.
32 NicoDin (#)----I lived in UK so please make fair comparison in UK some places there is poverty like in Africa.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like Elaine I am curious to where you saw places in the UK where poverty is like in Africa, so please don't be shy tell everyone where you saw all this poverty like in Africa, so that people like myself who lives in the UK can try and put it right.
No one starves in Britain, all have access to clean water to drink and to bathe, all have means to housing if they want it, (notice I said if they want it) everyone can be treated in our hospitals and have access to our health service and welfare system.
Nico old boy, do come forward and tell everyone where you saw all this poverty like in Africa.
And as for you comment to Elaine about language, why should we British learn another language, you should have learned by now we British are a far superior race of people and as such we demand other Nationals to talk and write in our far superior language :))))))))
@34 “we British are a far superior race of people ” .......
Jun 16th, 2011 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I truly believe that I am a “Bad Ass Mother Fucker” but I don't feel superior to nobody else ..... this is just my opinion !
@ElaineB
Jun 16th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is not the soviet union, UK, France, USA, etc. if their parent most of them recent comers from others countries with different culture don't care about their family what do you expect us to do?
Here even illegals immigrants have rights, their children, etc.
put all them in jail? Send them with their families back from where they came? hide in shelters out side Buenos Aires like the French have done to keep Paris clean?
This is your Brit style solution?
And what are you doing with poverty in UKIstan?
Now you are going to tell me that you have ever seen these children collecting rubbish from people’s gardens and putting collected stuff into Tesco trolleys around London?
Are you really from Britain? Or you were there just for tourism?
And the Children doing something to get some money like dancing on streets?
Or Homeless living on the streets of London?
Certainly not in Britain there are not poor. Denying perhaps?
Just as a simple example (because I was not taken photos of UK poverty), George Sampson under 14 was dancing on the streets to help his family because they were so poor. Before becoming famous on the show got talent of something like that.
Because you don’t click on external links uff quote here just in case...
“the family were so poor George spent Christmas Day busking in Warrington to earn £400”
Some words from the other George I hope you are not the Elaine calling him and denying poverty. Are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
No poverty in UK?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
Do you want more?
The level of poverty in UK is higher than in Argentina.
UK 25% at the moment and rising while 13,9% is for Argentina.
Conclusion using your logic are British less educated because they have more poor than Argentina?
Just wonder...
BTW your last paragraph was a good excuse.
I NEVER click links. Try making an argument with words.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I ask again, where is poverty 'like Africa' in the UK? I am curious to know.
Yes, there is poverty in the UK - though not at the level of developing countries - and there is homelessness, mostly due to a lifestyle of drug and alcohol abuse, and there are some fantastic charities, like Shelter, that work with the homeless.
You make a poor argument with the enterprising lad who raised £400 ($600) for Christmas. Good for him, but I doubt he 'needed' the money, rather he wanted a new wii. No one needs £400 to celebrate Christmas. : )
Why do you want to turn everything into a pissing contest? Try using some of your energy petitioning your government to improve the lives of the exploited children on the street of Buenos Aires. That is the issue here.
BTW I do not think the English or English language is superior, nor do I support the kind of Daily Mail - Fox News - zenophobic - misogynist -racist ideas that some posters display on this board.
@37
Jun 16th, 2011 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BBC America anyone?
ElaineB: The difference you speak of is relitive poverty(being on job seekers, ect.) and absolute poverty(not being able to pay for food, starving, no roof over head).
Jun 16th, 2011 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nico has a few select arguments he cycles through, is proven wrong and waits a few months before repeating the same thing again, his links are even the same.
Still waiting Nicodin for you to tell everyone were you saw all the poverty in Britain like you see in Africa when you where over in my country.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh and cant you take a small joke Nickodin. :)))))) Or is it that you don't understand the British sense of humor.
At least our middle class of citizens don't have to queue for meals like your citizens do. Now that's taking poverty to a new leval.
Scepticism surrounds Argentina poverty. figureswww.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q-7ilLgF8
Inflating poverty in Argentina. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJLrvGpJjg&feature=relmfu
Hungry in Argentina . www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_RnpwMDmL4&feature=related
Middle Class Revolt - Argentina. www.youtube.com/watch?v=quY5d_XdoWU&feature=relmfu
When you see things like this, you have to ask yourselves why you put up with the lies and the coruption of your political system that is failing all of you.
So Nickodin when you are ready just tell everyone where you saw all this poverty in Britain that is so like in Africa, or were you confused when you got back home and saw the poverty in your country and were jet lagged and dreamt it all up in your embarrassment of what you saw when you came home. don't be shy just tell everyone.
Did you see any villa miseria in the UK nicotine?
Jun 16th, 2011 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once you have bought your ticket and sit comfortably in the coach you are about to make a strange experience. Right after you have left the Terminal de Ómnibus de Retiro, the first thing you traverse is a so called villa miseria. A villa miseria is the Argentinean version of a slum area. These precarious housings belong to Villa 31 which is just across the huge bus terminal. In the Autonomous City of Buenos Aires there are 21 of these slums, according to estimates several hundreds of these “precarious neighborhoods” exist in Greater Buenos Aires. Public authorities tend to euphemistically call these zones asentamientos (settlements). Well, don't let 'em hornswoggle you!
@39 Yes, regarding poverty. I think I tried to make that point. : )
Jun 16th, 2011 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 Scepticism surrounds Argentina poverty. figureswww.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q-7ilLgF8.......
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a question, Is Teresa Bo single??
@43 lol. Do you fancy your chances?
Jun 16th, 2011 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NicoDin----- You have gone awfully quiet on the poverty in Britain like it is in Africa, we are still waiting for you to tell everyone where in the UK you saw it.
Jun 16th, 2011 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mmmmmmm seems that the cats got Nico's tongue once again.
@Britishbulldog
Jun 17th, 2011 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You show the same video from a shantytown where the only one Argentinean may be was the commentator.
UK looks like Africa you only have to take a look around. Its quite shocking for a western when arrives in London on her/his first time trip. Trust me.
But at least you are secure in Uki. Do you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
You guys live in denial.
Uki shantytowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
Everyone, who lives in Britain, knows the level of poverty, criminality and deprivation surrendering cities in UKI are like in the 3er world and degradation on services, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
UK Poverty facts
Nearly 13 million people live in poverty in the UK – that’s 1 in 5 of population. (23%)
3.8 million children in the UK are living in poverty.
2.2 million pensioners in the UK are living in poverty.
7.2 million working age adults in the UK are living in poverty.
70% of Bangladeshi children in the UK are poor.
Women are the majority in the poorest groups.
London has a higher proportion of people living in poverty than any other region in the UK
The UK has a higher proportion of its population living in relative poverty than most other EU countries: of the 27 EU countries, only 6 have a higher rate than the UK.
People suffering from malnutrition in the UK stands at 3 million, experts believe...
Why Britain is now a Third World country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSrZ5xVkLo
“Why Britain is now a Third World country.”
Jun 17th, 2011 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You desperately wish this to be true but it is not. Making statements like this just undermines your credibility.
@44
Jun 17th, 2011 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't hurt to try E .....
46 NicoDin ------ Still waiting for you to show what the UK poverty is compared to when it comes down to Africa poverty or now for that matter what Argentina poverty is.
Jun 17th, 2011 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets look at real shanty towns shall we the ones in Argy land the land of poverty and inflation.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/070420/GAL-07Apr20-71786/index.html
ferfal.blogspot.com/2010/04/villa-31-shanty-town-growing-at.html
www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/210410/argentina___two_million_in_buenos_aires_shanty_towns_.aspx
Now this next clip shows Argentina in is true colors, with over 1 billion $ given to her in aid to clean up this river that the shanty town relies on for its water, to drink and to wash and bathe and to cook from its still as polluted as it was if not worse than it was 20 years ago. If it was not for the people in the clip that are Argentinians you would think it was in some third world African country.
/www.dailymotion.com/video/xijqfd_toxic-ricachuelo-river-sickens-argentine-shantytowns_news
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8103595.stm
/www.treehugger.com/files/2011/06/recycled-materials-help-urbanize-shanty-town-installed-in-the-center-of-buenos-aires.php
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1eJukTWoQ
www.argentinaindependent.com/tag/shanty-towns/
We are even sending people from London on charity work to try and sort it all out for you NicoDin
www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/4825185.Wimbledon_sisters_swap_SW19_for_volunteering_in_Argentina/
All you have shown is a few illegal immigrants that should not be in the UK in the first place in a few tents, and a few people that are on low incomes and Birmingham that has quite a large Muslim community. and a journalist that is moaning is bag of because of some kind of Sofa in a tabloid paper you moron
Now I ask again show us all the poverty in the UK that is soooo like Africa, or if you like show us all the same proportion of shanty towns like you have in Argentina.
Argentina the real third world country.
@ElaineB
Jun 18th, 2011 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You always get half of the information.
It is not my statement otherwise is Jeremy Clarkson’s statement and he explains why UK is a third world country with arguments about the decline of efficiency and service based on his experiences in third world countries.
So lady can you explain me please how that “undermines my credibility” as you said?
Not convinced yet?
“Arriving at Heathrow is like landing in a Third World country. Indeed, I’d go further and say it’s actually more of a shock than arriving in most Third World countries. ... Airport in Kenya, for instance, is actually quite a civilised place by comparison. Heathrow Airport is a smelly, chaotic, dirty hellhole – exactly like large parts of the UK, in fact. I don’t see how anyone could possibly object to this”
Toby Young, British journalist
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
@Britishbulldog
Uk is a third world country, homeless everywhere, people begging for money on the streets, drug dealers everywhere, high criminality rates, and London is the capital of the Knife killing since long time ago.
You say that you are British and you are not aware of that? Are you kidding me? Where are you really from?
UK shantytowns
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
In my next trip to Europe I promise to go England and take all pics I can of all the misery and deprivation in UK and I will make a special site of it. So that way I will make you happy.
No Africa and not third world here mate
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100053812/cardinal-is-right-britain-often-does-seem-like-a-third-world-country/
Now take a look around UKistan
It is Just your imagination you need to get out more out of your little Island, I guess.
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50 NicoDin (#)---- What a prick you are all you have shown is a site that is in the process of being demolished to make way for new buildings and some clips of Gypsy's.
Jun 18th, 2011 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now a few posts early you made the statement that the UK is like a third world country that is like Africa. you have shown not one ounce of proof just some silly little clips that you have cherry picked to suit your unfounded bias against the UK. Where are the 2 million people that live in shanty towns like I found in your corrupt country, living by a river that is so polluted that people die from bathing and cooking and drinking that water from it www.dailymotion.com/video/xijqfd_toxic-ricachuelo-river-sickens-argentine-shantytowns_news
You call your country civilized and not a third world country, what sort of country lets this happen to there people, that's right just look in the mirror and you will see yourself an Argentinian that comes from that country, the country that has taken from over 1BILLION $ in aid from other countries including that third world country that you say we are to clean up that river, where has that money gone, oh that's right it was stolen by your corrupt officials that don't give a dam about your fellow citizens.
Even in other places such as Bariloche you have slums www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YF4vxkma5Y
Or what about 1,000 that live in this shanty town in Mar del Plata www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-114842838.html
Or what about the 600,000 that live in this slum area of Argentina called Cordoba 100 shanty towns in this area alone www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjjfI0i2sI
Yes we can all see from these clips how Argentina is a civilized country cant we. the more I research into what your country is like, the more I see why you jealously try to knock my country.
And you want to foister this on people that want to stay under British protection. Your mad as a hatter if you think we will let this happen to our people. Now NicoDin either put up or shut up. show the proof .
@Britishbulldog
Jun 18th, 2011 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What a prick you are all you have shown is a site that is in the process of being demolished to make way for new buildings and some clips of Gypsy's.”
Me? This is a deprived area full of poor go to Brixton ten minutes walk from central London.
You are the one that use pics and article recycled from years ago to make your point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
Is that not Africa? Looks like what we call here a shantytown Villa 31 style.
Can you see the similarity?
As I said before Britain is a Third world country and is not new this is happening since decades ago.
Only someone with his head in the sand cannot see that.
You tell me about corruption and crime? The second bigger drug smuggler country in the west? The second dealer of arms country in the west involved in corruption everywhere? Are you joking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
polluted rivers? Have you seen them in UK first?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
And by having a polluted river you consider us a third world country and not US and UK having more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
Thames Water the company that provides you potable water takes it from the same river where she dumps you POPO every day. Ha ha ha
Your little third world villages sunk into the water when comes a little rain like in Africa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
Are you going to tell me that is Venice?
By the way immigrant comes here every day the difference is that you send them back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qig8I-l0iIM
May be that we should start to do so especially to illegal British and squatters in Malvinas before our nice country turns into Africa like yours.
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