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UN Assembly president and Timerman discuss Falklands/Malvinas situation and Unasur
Argentine Foreign Affairs Minister Héctor Timerman received on Wednesday the president of the United Nations General Assembly, Joseph Deiss to discuss “the Malvinas situation, Unasur growing presence and the international financial crisis”, among other global issues. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI'm sure Deiss patted Tinkerman on his back and said: “Yes, yes, whatever...”
Aug 11th, 2011 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing will come of this, because Deiss knows very well that Argentina doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Timerman is your typical bogus Argentine politican and a fascist ignoramus posing badly as a democract. He once was recently quoted as saying;
Aug 11th, 2011 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the fact the illegal occupation of Argentine territory by Britain has been uninterruptedly protested since 1833”
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/06/30/falklands-malvinas-mercosur-supports-argentina-rejects-uk-defence-minister-words
This is of course completley false. Even the most robust of Argentine historians say there was no dialogue between 1850 and 1884. There was of course also no diplomatic protest to the British from 1888 to 1941. It's help the islander out though, lol.
What this article doesn't say is that:
Aug 11th, 2011 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Following the meeting, a statement was issued by the UN President’s spokesperson, “ Mr. Deiss and Mr. Timerman discussed a series of issues, including the world economic situation, the UN’s role in global governance, Security Council reform and the situation in Haiti.”
Nothing about the Falkland Islands !
2) Mr. Deiss steps down next month.
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/president-of-the-uns-general-assembly-visits-argentina/
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/president-of-the-uns-general-assembly-visits-argentina/
UN is useless platform .
Aug 11th, 2011 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0you shouldn't make any secret agreements with Brits as in the past !
What a laugh. Tinkerman reports he spoke about the “Malvinas” and Deiss doesn't even mention it... now we know what Deiss really thinks of Argentinas unfounded and unsustainable claim.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Ed
Aug 11th, 2011 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't you know there already is a secret agreement? - The agreement is islanders stay and the falkland islands remain british whether Argentina like it or not.
I think it best that the Falklanders hold a referendum to vote on whether they'd like to become a new province of Chile.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the state of Argentina's relations with Singapore? The reason I ask is that the Singapore government has just acquired 3% of RKH. I wonder how many Gvts hold equity in RKH through direct investments or through holding investment companies?
Aug 11th, 2011 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like Argentina is again pissing into the wind!
core talk about desperate,
Aug 11th, 2011 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some say, he was also seen talking to wynoes and people in the street,
others say he talks to knomes and fairies in the garden,
perhaps just perhaps, some kind sole will help this poor man back to the aylum,
“ ... The Swiss-born diplomat also held an official meeting with the Argentine Foreign Minister, Héctor Timerman, with whom analyzed the Argentine claim over the Malvinas issue, the international financial crisis, the agenda of the G-77 plus China and the UNASUR, among other issues. In an exclusive interview with Télam, Deiss praised the policies applied by Argentina to face and overcome the crisis...”
Aug 11th, 2011 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Telam tells lies ! Telam is anothe Indec :-)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/
#(6) Teaboy
Aug 11th, 2011 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0correct !.. it is well known that there were many secret treaties
between Arg-Brit...some were not related to Malvinas .
I've never said my country is always clear !
Britain waived the rules...and is paying for it now. One thing is to obtain a British nationality and quite another to acquire Englishness. This comes in the blood and not from education or other sources. Surf the web (there's a BBC video, btw) for the late Enoch Powell's speech 'Rivers of Blood' and you'll learn how right he was about immigration. Also, try to get a copy of his 1969 book 'Freedom and Reality'. Mine was signed and dedicated to me by the author himself during a 1970 CPGB dinner at the Junior Carlton Club. On the other hand, I wouldn't say a word about the conflictive South Atlantic islands' sovereingnty because all what could be said here is mere speculation of either side. It is governments who decide in the end, so scorn, bullying and name-calling is useless, here or anywhere else. Cheers!
Aug 11th, 2011 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Powell was a fool! I lived in the Midlands from 1955 till 2005 and Powell had no idea at all.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Immigration is perfectly natural in europe. Been happening for 1000 years. There are occassional explosions, but it's just steam ... every 25 years or so. Nothing remiss in that!
13. Don't fool yourself. One thing is 'natural' immigration, usually more or less balanced with emigration, and quite another immigration tidal waves of people who can't utter a word in English, coming from completely different societies, cultures, religions, &c, to an already packed country, to enjoy the same rights and benefits the natives have developed along the centuries for the benefit of their citizens, without properly complying with the corresponding obligations. It is quite impossible for the system to find a place in schools for the children of these immigrants, due to their not speaking the local language and their levels of 'uneducation', to begin with. Steam may still be smart to move machines, but not to throw mad (and high) youngsters to the streets to maim, kill and destroy property, or even themselves. And England (Britain) IS NOT Europe, I'm afraid, and has never been.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ed post #11 - I was referring to a secret agreement between the british people and the islanders (themselves british people) and the UK government, where it has been secretly agreed that the islanders and the islands will always remain British so long as the islanders want to remain so. Hence why i said “whether Argentina likes it or Not”.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argis Post #14 - Funny how you talk about mass immigration and foreign language as am sure the indigenous people of south america, probably said the same about your ancestors when they invaded and colonised south america, though as a result of your conuntries constant wiping out of they indigenous people and destruction of their historical artifacts and literature, we may well never know what they truely though of your spanish great, great, great, great grand father, the conquistador (“conq” for conquer(er)). Yeah i geuss you know all about what its like being a foreign immigrant to a foreign land eh Argie, or should that be “Decendent of Spanish Conquisdator Argie”? After all the only true argentinians are the remaining indigenous people.
#15 “After all the only true argentinians are the remaining indigenous people”
Aug 11th, 2011 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'I get what you mean, but the word 'Argentina' was created by white people. There were several native provinces and they were protected by treaties. However like with the 1850 convention, we know BsAs is not very good at keeping to them.
I don't know what you are on about Argie. Many of the people arrested are as “English” as they come - and there have been “tidal waves” of immigration into Britain in the past, in fact that is more “natural” than any other form of immigration if you look back over the last 2000 years.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These riots have a lot to do with a culture of entitlement which exists in the UK, 20 years of being taught about rights but never the obligations that attach to them. They have very little to do with immigration...
[]- Teaboy
Aug 11th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK 's unique interlocutor has been becoming Argentina not
Falkland people...why would UK make secret agreement with colony.?
already that,
for all i now they were transfered to British citizenship since 1983 !
how do we know that the UK goverment has not made secret agreement with argentine, or deals or other things,
Aug 11th, 2011 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but as we all know, they would not be secret , if we knew about them,
@#18 Geo - “UK 's unique interlocutor has been becoming Argentina not
Aug 11th, 2011 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland people”
Right so in a political sense, you are actually saying that the UK has been holding discussions for the UK to become Argentina??
There is no discussions on either the UK or the falklands becoming Argentine sovereingty Geo - The UK public simply would not allow the government to give the falklands to Argentina or allow the UK to become Argentine, as per your somewhat bemusing claim.
There is no deal over than the one the enforces the current status qoe - That being the islanders and the islands are British and will remain so for as long as the islanders wish it, whether Argentina like it or not.
And we do NOT want to become Argentine.
Aug 11th, 2011 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one is asking Mrs Isolde to became argentine.
Aug 12th, 2011 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas are argentines and Mrs Isolde and the others falklanders are british.
No one is demanding your britishness., only problem in this conflict is britain presence, britain is an alien power with military ambitions over 1/3 of south atlantic.
Billy - the FI are now closer to Singapore after yesterday's announcement that the Singapore gvt has a significant stake in the FI drilling. Has your gvt protested this yet or will it simply ignore this as it is really only interested in political posturing rather than it's supposed principles?
Aug 12th, 2011 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22BillyHayes,
Aug 12th, 2011 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0But you are asking us to become Argentines, Bill-boy & you want OUR land. Many Argentine posters here have told us this(Argentines wouldn't lie, would they, Bill?).
Cry all you like, you'll get neither.
No such place as malv...or something or other.
However the Falklands are here & the British have as much right to be in the South Atlantic as anyone. Your country does NOT own the South Atlantic as much as you would like to.
[] - 20 teaboy
Aug 12th, 2011 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0this is not reply to me !
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[] - Isolde
for alli hear ,Brasil +Argentina are planning to Military Practice
at the north/northeast of Falklands around in the near future !
@25 Brazil and Argentina are entitled to do whatever they like in their own territory. And even in international waters provided they don't endanger anyone else.
Aug 12th, 2011 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now, which ones of your rowing boats is Argentina going to trot out? I assume your air force will be adequately represented by microlights and gliders!
Here's a thought. Do you have adequate rescue facilities? Hope you're not expecting the Royal Navy to help out. After all, an RN vessel couldn't enter one of your ports, could it?
today the royal navy shows of its latest [3] destroyers,
Aug 12th, 2011 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0all built withing weeks,, thus adding 3 more ships to the line,
[yes] 3 ships built in a week, [how] because there british,
and of course royal navy,
if this dont brighten your day up, [nothing will]
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/navy_launches_its_own_toy_type_45_destroyer_1_2956533
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[] - 26
Aug 12th, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0just your humor sagacity !
@Geo #25 - “[] - 20 teaboy
Aug 12th, 2011 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is not reply to me !”
How the hell can my response to your post #18, not be a reply to you?
You refered to the UK's “unique interlocutor” has been becoming argnetina.
An Interlocutor is someone who takes part in a conversation, often formally or officially. Therefore you were stating that an UK official was in discussions for the UK to become argentina. Therefore yes my reponse in post #20 was in no doubt a response to your post.
Do not tell me i have not replied to your post when it is quite evidently clear, without leaving room for any misinterpretation by you or anyone else, that i had indeed responded precisely to your comments as written by you.
If my response was not percise to what your actually ment, then learn english, before expecting us to know percisely what you are on about and before telling us we have have not responded, when according to what you had written we had indeed responding.
I have seen many of your post GEO and i must say you are probably the most prolifick poster incomprehensible posts.
If you not understand my long words (which i suspect you do not), then google them!!!
As for your question - “why would UK make secret agreement with colony.?” I think you will find the last 2 paragraphs in my response answered it, numbnuts! (google numbnuts to know what it means geo)
How fanciful the defenders of empire are now when its own citizens are killing each other on the streets every night and even the prime minister recognizes the society is sick.As Argentina and South America grow at rapid levels Europe is disintegrateing before our eyes.Malvinenses aprenda Español lo mas pronto posible para [articipar en una sociedad en crecimiento.
Aug 12th, 2011 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yo diria aprendamos chino ya que la hegemonia del mundo esta cambiando o no?
Aug 12th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aye, as for potential languages someone could learn English and Mandarin are still widely more useful than Spanish.
Aug 12th, 2011 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing will come of this, because Deiss knows very well that Argentina doesn't have a leg to stand on“
Aug 12th, 2011 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another ”BRILLIANT“ statement by Our 'great”(liar) roberts.
Next year,go to the UN,and explain your theory,roberts....
uk and the malvinenses,have been loosing for the last 46 years.......
Marvin - on your theory we will be 'losing' for the next 146 years! Doesn't that tell you something?
Aug 13th, 2011 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zethe English may be more widely spoken than Spanish but it has less native speakers.Mandarin is clearly not as widely spoken as Spanish but has more native speakers.So you cant have it both ways.But either way Spanish is easily the fastest growing languaage and will reach 500 million native speakers in the next decade 75 million of whom will be in the Us where Spainish will be the first language in California,Tejas and Florida.
Aug 13th, 2011 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish &otherLatin languages have mathematical grammer,verb
Aug 13th, 2011 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0structure but English has not ...
English's international using is from the trying of UK's debts pay back
efforts since 18 th century !
English is also has also some ethical faults, for instance that
about sexual discrimination
for male using “” Mr “” is standarts !
BUT
for female using “” Miss ..Mrs .. “” insulting for females !
the writing of “” Mrs“” tells us the perverse of Brits soul and their
exhibitionism on women' virginity !
@geo
Aug 13th, 2011 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The use of the titles Miss, Mrs, Ms are not sexually discriminating at all. Miss is the title of an unmarried woman not her virginity. Mrs is the title for a woman who is married (and takes on her husbands surname) Ms is used as a courtesy title before the surname or full name of a woman or girl, regardsless of their marriage status and is commonly used as a womans title in business.
The use of the titles Miss, Mrs or Ms is nothing but a form of courtsey when addressing a woman, which most women in the past found to be deeply insulting when not address by title, and even today some find it impolite. So its not sexually discrimiating at all.
YOu must not off course forget that Spanish like English came from Latin and the use of Miss and Mrs was brought about by the catholic church. So Geo whats your wife called? Oh i forgot its Mrs Geo or Ms Geo you numbnuts
Senora - a Spanish title or form of address for a married woman; similar to the English `Mrs' or `madam'
Senorita - a Spanish title or form of address used to or of an unmarried girl or woman; similar to the English `Miss'
Now i geuss what you just said about us brits and or use of langauge applies to those that speak spanish too. - Ohh my i do believe that includes Argentinians.
I must say your viewing the use of titles as a way for Brits to know whos virgin and whos not is to be honest nothing but an insight into your own perverse mind and thoughts on the matter Geo. I think you should stop shaking the genarals hand so much then maybe we will get some sense out of you for once lol.
[] -38 Teaboy
Aug 13th, 2011 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know what the Brits think but the virginity of ladies ( even
this word is social statue discrimination) is very important for us !
Mrs/Miss and Senyora/Senorita are not same things
in Spanish Senyora is used for adult females..
in Spanish Senorita is used for teenage females..
not explain their married or not !
@Geo #38 - ”I don't know what the Brits think but the virginity of ladies ( even
Aug 13th, 2011 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this word is social statue discrimination) is very important for us !”
Yes you like young virgins, thanks for being honest. All i can say is us Brits do not see a person virginity as being important at all. Many Brit couples have had previous sexual relationships prior to marriage so the precentage of virgins (male or female) that get married to the person whom took their virginity is probably less then 5% here.
As for - “Mrs/Miss and Senyora/Senorita are not same things
in Spanish Senyora is used for adult females..
in Spanish Senorita is used for teenage females..
not explain their married or not !”
Well you clearly do not know your own language very well, and after a quick search on google i found this post by an Argentinian which confirms what i had previous said http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080928154454AAslhfa - See post 2
According to your interpretation of the word Senorita being for teenage girls, then i must say you have a unhealthy interest in young girls especially when the rest of the spanish speaking world refer to senoritas as unmarried girl and/or women, regardless of age.
[] - Teaboy
Aug 13th, 2011 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you know that Google &Yahoo translations are wrong sometimes !
but i am not pedophile !
@Geo
Aug 13th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never said you were a pedophile, only that you seemed to have an unhealthy interest in virgins and teeanage girls, i.e. girls upto the age of 19 years of age and young women, that are still virgins.
Plus i did not use google translatem, to get the translation i asked a spanish friend of mine, and then confirmed it by the link i posted (which i found while searching google, not using google translate) in which your fellow countryman confirmed i was correct. So what your saying is that not only is Google Translate incorrect (even though i didn't use it), but so is my spanish friend and so is your fellow country man who made the post in the link i posted. Some how i think the evidence proves that i am not incorrect and it is you who is incorrect geo.
[]- 41 Tea
Aug 13th, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0presumably your friend has the married woman obsession !
BUT
Senorita word is not used generally ..
Senor X Senora are used generally....
#41 Teaboy2:
Aug 13th, 2011 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have to take everything that geo says with a pinch of salt because he comes up with some pretty bizarre ideas sometimes. Thes eare compounded by his terrible command of English (which, admittedly, is far better than my Spanish). In previous posts, he's even said that he has an intellect superior to that of many Nobel Laureates. Not much evidence of that so far, though.
I'm pretty sure he's wrong on the definiton of senorita.
The OED says: “a title or form of address used of or to a Spanish-speaking unmarried woman, corresponding to Miss.”
[]- 43 Crack
Aug 13th, 2011 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think the Chiquita is more attractive more than the Senorita for you !
lts normal for men to like teenage females. Some countries allow marriage at 15 years of age. Although l think 25 would be more suitable when people have had a chance to grow up & experience life a bit.
Aug 13th, 2011 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just wanted to wish everyone a good nite, i am going to go to sleep now, tomorrow we'll vote and I hope one day we'll be in peace with everyone including the falklanders. good night, sleep tight lol
Aug 14th, 2011 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0listen to mar radio alba :)
For the serious minded, Dab, Domingo and others, a consideration of the sovereignty issues in the south Atlantic.
Aug 14th, 2011 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://lordton1955.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/fear-and-loathing-in-the-south-atlantic/
For the rest, I wouldn't read it ... you'll find it disturbing :-)
[] - 45 Isolde
Aug 14th, 2011 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0same idea !
@43 crackpot - Thanks for confirming that senorita does indeed correspond to Miss, and for the heads up on geo.
Aug 14th, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 geo - “same idea” i assume your refering to the age of 25 being more suitable?
Heres a tip for you geo, why not use google translate and write your comment on google translate in spanish then translate it to english and post the english translattion on here - I bet that will make your postings much clearer on here if you do.
[] - 49 Tea
Aug 14th, 2011 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you assumed very truely !
i didn't use “” i agree with you“” becouse Isolde is our female mate
you know that “” agree“” word would be used in some obscene meanings !
@50geo,
Aug 15th, 2011 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0use what words you like geo, if it means that you can express what you mean.
Don't worry about bad language, l've heard it all & sometimes use it myself!
@51
Aug 15th, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l've heard it all & sometimes use it myself!...... I forgive you “I”, you are excempt of any wrong doing!
@52,
Aug 16th, 2011 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are too kind, m'sieur.
Gripping stuff .....Yawn!
Aug 16th, 2011 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are we only claiming a third of the South Atlantic?
” ... Arguello also raised the issue of a UNASUR defence agreement as he considered that the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance (RIO Treaty) had been, “.. buried at the bottom of the south Atlantic..” in 1982....”
Aug 18th, 2011 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems that Argentina doesn't understand the difference between a Defence Treaty and an act of war!
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/an-aggression-treaty/
Red, although I'm not a fan of the TIAR, there was no invasion of Argentine territory in 82 , so what Arguello is saying is irrelevant ?
Aug 18th, 2011 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose that it rather depends upon your perspective :-)
Aug 18th, 2011 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0true ! :-)
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