Argentine President Cristina Fernández will make an official visit to Santiago to meet with her Chilean counterpart, Sebastián Piñera at the end of January next year, it was announced Tuesday. Read full article
These meetings are going to be very significant with regard to trade which has been increasing rapidly but also with regard to the Malvinas where the Chilean press has been reporting on one country two systems proposals coming from Santiago.
Similar to Hong Kong except here with two democracies London and Buenos Aires will agree to a joint ownership over a long period and dual citizenship for the islanders
The islanders can easily get it as James Peck did. They were born in Argentine soil.
In any case, I think cooperation would be a really good thing. The British would save millions in defense, the hate feelings would eventually dissappear. And to be honest, you would profit more being able to use our infrastructure.
After all, you want to be left alone to live in the Islands in your way. I tell you that it would be a fact. I live in an island and most of the time we do not even appear on news. To be honest the common Argentine is more concerned about you than us. For example, many think we live in igloos and that penguins walk around the streets.
O'gaga - the joint sovereignty idea was rejected in the 70's.
It has no hope of being accepted by the islanders now. Why should it? They have the right to determine their own future and British muscle to back that right up.
Chile won't go out on a limb for Argentina. Chile doesn't trust Argentina that much !
2 JuanStanic
you forgot to mention Mr Alejandro Betts , he is ex bennys, at the moment he is Argentinen living Cordoba province.
3 Roten you do not have any idea South America Politicians, of course Chile trust Argentina, Pinera is not Pinochet, mate and also he is prsidente of recently created CELAC, Community of Latin American and Caribbean States!! 33 countries, you understood, stop drinking, mate!!!!
@3 Redhoyt
The youth of Chile are the ones clearly in favour of Argentina. They as much as our youth believe in cooperation between our countries. I can safely say that in any discussion or problem, one of the first ones to answer the call would be Chile.
“The position of the Chilean government is clear and firm: we back and support the right of Argentina, on legal and historic reasons, over the Malvinas and other adjoining islands”
Red,
He can visit any country he wants. But he know their business is with us and with South America. The youth do even more so.
Among the grown up, there is a both sides feeling of mistrust and even hate. With the youth on both sides we are entering a new era of cooperation and just friendly rivalry.
The realities are that all the Latin American governments right or left have decided that regional integration is the route to avoid the worst effects of the crisis.This will be particularly important for Chile very dependant on the US and Europe.Chile indeed values its realtions with the city highly but right now it sees Mercosur as its salvation.So Chiles leaders want to keep the city and its new rich neighbour happy.Integration with Argentina will be a massive fillip to Chiles economy and it badly needs the infraestructure that will be developed if agreements are made in January
Oil:
does Panama support you? The OG is Panama flagged.
Does the US support you (Marcos thinks so)? The OG is US owned.
Does Brazil support you? The oil exploration has been supplied by vessels that regualry call into Brazilian ports, flow test equipment etc. Even the OG herself and the crew spent a week in a Brazilian port enjoying the warm hospitality. How can Brazil support you if it is willing to profit from the exploration? We even have use of Brazilian airspace with that oil charter flight flying down from Miami :-)
Fisheries:
Brazil has large processing facilites used by international companies operating in FI waters. The Brazilian welcome these with open arms and those Koreans love that FI squid, yum!
Uruguay is happy to host boat that are operating exclusively in FI waters and are even giving those boats advice on how to put up with Argentine hassle.
Chile - they have a lot of economic ties with the FI and money from the Chilean workers on the islands is welcomed by their families back home. I see that LAN refers to their destination as Islas Falklands when en-route to the Islands.
Regarding the rig currently on its way south. The two companies that have contracted it are Borders and Southern (BOR) and Falkland Oil & Gas (FOGL). I can send you the direct link to www.marinetraffic.com if you wish? You can watch its progress as it steams south to the South and East Falkland Basins.
how much time & money does it costs long trips to brazil uruguay??
extra money....waste waste
and remember the decree, ask permission
5) Nelson Gleadell (intendente de Pto San Julián, Sta Cruz, he supported Arg in the ONU), Guillermo Clifton (Sta Cruz), Derek Rozee, Martyn Clarke (played football here, dont think he is still here) a lot of people of Puerto San Julián malvinenses in Arg.
Malen - considering the Singapore gvt have already put their money where their mouth is then I think the oil tankers will go a lot further than Brazil when this beautiful stuff flows to market.
Don't start that rubbish about costing more etc. Oil is shipped all accros the world from Saudi Arabia and economics of doing that and getting it around Africa don't appear to be a problem.
I know Maros but I was looking for a 10% drop before my next top up followed by the bounce to top slice. I guess there just wasn't enough profit taking today.
Decent entry point for a new holder with a long term strategy though. Perhaps you could pick some up if you could afford the brokers fees?
@ 20 PIÑERA WILL DO WHAT HE CONSIDERS BEST FOR YOU AND THE OTHER CHILEAN PEOPLE, THAT'S ALL. STOP DREAMING IN BEING AWAY FROM LATIN AMERICA, YOU ARE LATIN AMERICANS. SORRY.
barilox, I feel and always have felt south/latinamerican. Do you believe that considering that, we must back every bullshit that comes out of this continent?
How childish and mediocre is that... and Piñera has a strong backening from it's people... NOT!
if I was to deside to loose money investing in Chile or earning money investing in UK, for what I seen and read from brits in this page I would 10000 times rather invest in Chile. nothing personal but europids have never being good with people, not even their own children.
Child Labor in Argentina
Scars of poverty
Christopher Smallwood
A tiny boy no more than eight years old walks along ranks of stopped cars at Plaza Libertad in Buenos Aires. Face and hands dirty, hair disheveled, he asks for spare change. One window lowers, a hand stretches out to drop the requested gift into the boy's palm. The light changes. The cars drive on. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThese meetings are going to be very significant with regard to trade which has been increasing rapidly but also with regard to the Malvinas where the Chilean press has been reporting on one country two systems proposals coming from Santiago.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Similar to Hong Kong except here with two democracies London and Buenos Aires will agree to a joint ownership over a long period and dual citizenship for the islanders
The islanders can easily get it as James Peck did. They were born in Argentine soil.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0In any case, I think cooperation would be a really good thing. The British would save millions in defense, the hate feelings would eventually dissappear. And to be honest, you would profit more being able to use our infrastructure.
After all, you want to be left alone to live in the Islands in your way. I tell you that it would be a fact. I live in an island and most of the time we do not even appear on news. To be honest the common Argentine is more concerned about you than us. For example, many think we live in igloos and that penguins walk around the streets.
O'gaga - the joint sovereignty idea was rejected in the 70's.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has no hope of being accepted by the islanders now. Why should it? They have the right to determine their own future and British muscle to back that right up.
Chile won't go out on a limb for Argentina. Chile doesn't trust Argentina that much !
@ 3 Your desperation is completely understandable. Politicians, don't ya just love them? hahaha
Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 02 JuanStanic
Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0you forgot to mention Mr Alejandro Betts , he is ex bennys, at the moment he is Argentinen living Cordoba province.
3 Roten you do not have any idea South America Politicians, of course Chile trust Argentina, Pinera is not Pinochet, mate and also he is prsidente of recently created CELAC, Community of Latin American and Caribbean States!! 33 countries, you understood, stop drinking, mate!!!!
@3 Redhoyt
Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The youth of Chile are the ones clearly in favour of Argentina. They as much as our youth believe in cooperation between our countries. I can safely say that in any discussion or problem, one of the first ones to answer the call would be Chile.
3 Redhoyt
Dec 14th, 2011 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chilean president a few hours ago:
“The position of the Chilean government is clear and firm: we back and support the right of Argentina, on legal and historic reasons, over the Malvinas and other adjoining islands”
Get used to it :-)
Marcos - Are you also getting used to the verbal support but watching your neigbours taking actions that contravene this support.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another rig is in the way, get used to it :-)
@8 Beef
Dec 14th, 2011 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please lighten me with those contravening actions.
For the rig I can only ask what company will use it.
Pinera, ! Rings a bell. Remind me!
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yes, didn't he visit Britain last year? Did a deal or two?
Something like that. Our warships don't seem to have a problem popping in there now. Even attended that naval do last year if I remember correctly.
Hmm.
As for Chilean you - well that's just youth for you. Fortunately they grow up.
Rig? That'll be FOGL I think - http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/02/leiv-eiriksson-rig-ends-oil-drilling-in-the-arctic-and-sails-for-the-falklands
Red,
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0He can visit any country he wants. But he know their business is with us and with South America. The youth do even more so.
Among the grown up, there is a both sides feeling of mistrust and even hate. With the youth on both sides we are entering a new era of cooperation and just friendly rivalry.
The realities are that all the Latin American governments right or left have decided that regional integration is the route to avoid the worst effects of the crisis.This will be particularly important for Chile very dependant on the US and Europe.Chile indeed values its realtions with the city highly but right now it sees Mercosur as its salvation.So Chiles leaders want to keep the city and its new rich neighbour happy.Integration with Argentina will be a massive fillip to Chiles economy and it badly needs the infraestructure that will be developed if agreements are made in January
Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Juan - with pleasure
Dec 14th, 2011 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oil:
does Panama support you? The OG is Panama flagged.
Does the US support you (Marcos thinks so)? The OG is US owned.
Does Brazil support you? The oil exploration has been supplied by vessels that regualry call into Brazilian ports, flow test equipment etc. Even the OG herself and the crew spent a week in a Brazilian port enjoying the warm hospitality. How can Brazil support you if it is willing to profit from the exploration? We even have use of Brazilian airspace with that oil charter flight flying down from Miami :-)
Fisheries:
Brazil has large processing facilites used by international companies operating in FI waters. The Brazilian welcome these with open arms and those Koreans love that FI squid, yum!
Uruguay is happy to host boat that are operating exclusively in FI waters and are even giving those boats advice on how to put up with Argentine hassle.
Chile - they have a lot of economic ties with the FI and money from the Chilean workers on the islands is welcomed by their families back home. I see that LAN refers to their destination as Islas Falklands when en-route to the Islands.
Regarding the rig currently on its way south. The two companies that have contracted it are Borders and Southern (BOR) and Falkland Oil & Gas (FOGL). I can send you the direct link to www.marinetraffic.com if you wish? You can watch its progress as it steams south to the South and East Falkland Basins.
how much time & money does it costs long trips to brazil uruguay??
Dec 14th, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0extra money....waste waste
and remember the decree, ask permission
5) Nelson Gleadell (intendente de Pto San Julián, Sta Cruz, he supported Arg in the ONU), Guillermo Clifton (Sta Cruz), Derek Rozee, Martyn Clarke (played football here, dont think he is still here) a lot of people of Puerto San Julián malvinenses in Arg.
Malen - considering the Singapore gvt have already put their money where their mouth is then I think the oil tankers will go a lot further than Brazil when this beautiful stuff flows to market.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't start that rubbish about costing more etc. Oil is shipped all accros the world from Saudi Arabia and economics of doing that and getting it around Africa don't appear to be a problem.
Beef, Urinehopper so far today 252.75 -16.13 (-6.01%)
Dec 14th, 2011 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another rig is in the way? Tell them to hurry up :-)))
I know Maros but I was looking for a 10% drop before my next top up followed by the bounce to top slice. I guess there just wasn't enough profit taking today.
Dec 14th, 2011 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Decent entry point for a new holder with a long term strategy though. Perhaps you could pick some up if you could afford the brokers fees?
Marcos,
Dec 14th, 2011 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Las acciones van a subir igual. Compra ahora que bajan. Sabelo que cada accion que tenes es una accion menos que ellos tiene.
Thanks Juan but I don't buy stolen goods.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Piñera can say alot of things, when it's B-job time again...
Dec 15th, 2011 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0acting is different, though...
@ 20 PIÑERA WILL DO WHAT HE CONSIDERS BEST FOR YOU AND THE OTHER CHILEAN PEOPLE, THAT'S ALL. STOP DREAMING IN BEING AWAY FROM LATIN AMERICA, YOU ARE LATIN AMERICANS. SORRY.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0barilox, I feel and always have felt south/latinamerican. Do you believe that considering that, we must back every bullshit that comes out of this continent?
Dec 15th, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0How childish and mediocre is that... and Piñera has a strong backening from it's people... NOT!
if I was to deside to loose money investing in Chile or earning money investing in UK, for what I seen and read from brits in this page I would 10000 times rather invest in Chile. nothing personal but europids have never being good with people, not even their own children.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0O gara#23
Dec 15th, 2011 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Chiles leaders want to keep the city and its new rich neighbour happy
Who is the new rich neigbour?
nothing personal but europids have never being good with people, not even their own children.
Dec 15th, 2011 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
At least 10 indigenous children have died from malnutrition in north-west Argentina this year.
Child Labor in Argentina
Scars of poverty
Christopher Smallwood
A tiny boy no more than eight years old walks along ranks of stopped cars at Plaza Libertad in Buenos Aires. Face and hands dirty, hair disheveled, he asks for spare change. One window lowers, a hand stretches out to drop the requested gift into the boy's palm. The light changes. The cars drive on.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
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