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US prosecutors charge former Siemens executives for paying bribes in Argentina

Tuesday, December 13th 2011 - 23:39 UTC
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United States prosecutors charged eight former Siemens AG executives with paying 100 million dollars in bribes for more than a decade to Argentina officials to help win a one billion dollars contract to produce national identity cards. Read full article


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  • Teaboy2

    Now i wonder if one of those presidents was CFK or Nestor, that the bribes were intended for? lol.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic


    Dec 14th, 2011 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 1 no, it was Carlos Saúl Menem.

    @ 2 where is he now? In Chile with Bolocco?

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    @3 barilox
    I think he is hidden in La Rioja. He only appears on important occasions. Maybe he is dying?

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    you guys are forgetting it stated “including two presidents” in the article. So yes 1 may have been Menem, but question is who was the secound one Nestor or CFK?

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    None Coffeeboy, Menem y De la Rúa.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    No teaboy. The Siemens thing was mainly Menem. They wanted to bribe de La Rua but IIRC they had some problem.

    Both the Kirchners are connected to other episodes, such as Skanska, Antonini Wilson, and such.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Someone had to oil the wheels!

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    Speaking about corruption, I came to know about Mike Bingham's case. Quite dissapointing.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    “In December 2008, the German multinational Siemens agreed to pay an $800 million fine to the United States government, and approximately €700 million to the German government, to settle allegations of bribery.[17] The settlement revealed that Menem received about US$2 million in bribes from Siemens in exchange for awarding the national ID card and passport production contract to Siemens; Menem denied the charges.[18]”

    Siemens admits corruption with former Argentine leaders
    (AFP) – Dec 17, 2008
    ”Siemens' local chief Enrique Antonio Genzone wrote to Federal Planning Minister Julio De Vido explaining that the bribes involved a contract to make Argentine national identity cards signed by former president Carlos Menem (1989-1999) and rescinded by his successor Fernando de la Rua (1999-2001), the Telam news agency said.”

    This is what happens when all your busyness cronies are europids, when alztimer chicks in they soon forget whom their good butt budy's are, in the best case scenario they persecute you, in the worst case scenario they hung or execute you. long live CFK! Fuera ingleses ilegales de islas Malvinas Argentina.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Since two presidents and cabinet ministers were on the take up until 2007, I wonder who was involved after de la Rua left in 2001. Nestor Kirchner had a lot of ministers from May 2003 through Dec 2007; something kept this going up to Dec 2008.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #11 ”Argentine national identity cards signed by former president Carlos Menem (1989-1999) and rescinded by his successor Fernando de la Rua (1999-2001), the Telam news agency said.”

    what you said sounds like you are trying to blame CFK for the money thefted by IMF with the help of corrupt politicians, I am sure, IMF, USA and UK know wich corrupt Argentine they pay or wich terrorist they armed to commit crimes agaisnt humanity, jerry you want to know who did this ??? ask UK, IMF and USA they know bery well how this theft was planned, this is exacly why the politicians are not mentioned in here, this way they can keep thefting Argentina's wealth and also keep their cronies to help them theft more.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Why would I be trying to blame CFK? She did not assume office until Dec 2007. There is a lot of Argentina politician involvement between Dec 2001 and 2008.

    Dec 14th, 2011 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 13

    P I S S O F F!

    Dec 15th, 2011 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    xbox running amok again.
    have some sweet white wine, xbox. lt might calm you down.

    Dec 15th, 2011 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #13 right it took this many years and honest politicians to unvail the truth, I guess CFK is not in office to just keep the chair warm. your question in comment #11 points towards the unknown seeming to single out the K's who walked into a political mine field set up by corrupt regimes prior to 2001 high jack of the Argentine money supply (economy, corralito), if 4 presidents in one month don't show this I don't know how else it can be explained. now the political mine field I talk about here can be seen in this report with the help of the profeteers nations, for example, it reveals that crimes were commited but excuses them with a corporate label to minimize the crime, but also points out to the political arena of a nation (Argentina in this case) wich are holding office from the old regime who signed many corrupt and illegal contracts on behealf of Argentine citizens who do not know the real content of this contracts and only become aware when the political mine field starts blowing up in the face of any presidents who fight for a batter Argentina “el tonto de turno”. good luck finding the list of names, but I doubt international organizations will give out the name of the few thieves holding the convination lock to the safety box of a nation, the people you are looking for are the last standing militants of a occupying forces who's line of defence appears to be wearing thinner.

    Dec 15th, 2011 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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