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Falklands’ fishing companies regret Uruguay’s ban, and losses for the port of Montevideo
Falkland Islands fishing companies association, FIFCA expressed their “extreme disappointment” with Uruguay’s decision not to allow Falklands’ flagged vessels enter the port of Montevideo, which “will only serve to punish its own people”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIsn't this dragging on .... and on !
Dec 20th, 2011 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0More tomorrow I don't doubt.
Still looks like Argentina hurting is neighbour and offending Spain, without any great effect on the Falklands. They sell 25 year licences after all. No refund :-)
That's if its true of course. After all Beef has shown that Falklands' flags are flying in Montevideo at this moment !
Falklnds Islands flagged vessels you are welcomed on Chilean ports ..... whenever you want.....with no corruption, reliable people and companies, good technical and comercial support, shorter distance from fishing areas, etc.....
Dec 20th, 2011 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0No chileno!! not ports from punta arena and the flights are cut soon, probably next week, after mercosur meeting in Montevideo!!!going to be hard that you get back to chile!!
Dec 20th, 2011 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina seems very keen to upset its neighbours businesses. Interesting tactic - akin to shooting yourself in the foot :-)
Dec 20th, 2011 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Argentina seems very keen to upset pirats businesses. Interesting tactic.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0l didn't know just how much they must hate us.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0All for something that is not theirs & they will never have.
Can't say l care for them much either, although l had a bit of sympathy for them at one time.
These malvinistas act like children who have been told, “no, you can't have that”.
Well, girls & boys, NO, you can't have our land. Cry, you'll feel better afterwards.
This Argentine action maybe annoying now but in the long run it will have the effect of making the Falkland Islands more independent and self reliant. That can only be a good thing in the years ahead.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Uruguayan government can be sued for compensation and damages in Uruguayan courts; no doubt that may well prove to be a good cash cow for some fishing businesses. The judiciary requires evidence that acts are lawful, nor merely political opinion and can reverse political decisions that are unlawful
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0A good test for the rule of law in Uruguay
@7 More independent? Ha ha ha
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor old Uruguay it pays the cost for argentine Fairy story of malvinas and gets NOTHING in return!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
It is Uruguay's loss and in the long-term the Falklands gain. Well done Argentina and Uruguay, you are just making it harder to colonise the Falklands.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Falklanders, get those port facilities sorted. You may as well take all the profits :-)
Dec 20th, 2011 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's south American solidarity.When one finger is hurt the hand hurts.The Brits only know the selfish way.You need to listen to compañeros.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soul not law! ;-))
For sure Uruguay is not going to jeopardize the good economics has with Argentina for 2000 people...Simple math..
Dec 20th, 2011 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“they will just move to Brazil with all the losses for Uruguay”
Dec 20th, 2011 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil? They will just move back to Europe with all the losses for Britain.
maybe they'll try to change their flag to Liberia/Panama/Malta ones
Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And so it came to pass,
Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines influence on the smaller nations, only hastened their decline
And so the fishing industry of these little nations and other S/A nations came to an end,
But rejoice the emergence of the new fishing industry booming in the Falklands
And ST Helen , frozen and shipped to the rest of the world,
Money , fish oil all in abundance,
Long live the future advance ment of the British in the Falklands,
And the demise of a once powerful S/A reduced to 4th world status, .
And interesting thought .
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YUP- the silly lady in BA is doing a great job of making us make our mindsup about where and how we might build the new port the fishing industry would need! I expect that within 12 months it will now be actually under construction instead of just a talking point fore the last 5 years!
Dec 20th, 2011 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Flight threats - likewise, we have been looking at alternatives for some time- we now focus harder and define the best one
Thankyou Argentina- you are making a few beaurocrats and politicians here get off the fence and extract their finger! - Thankyou Cristina! - we might even name the new port and future oil terminals after you!
Geb Galteiri,s stupidity saved the Islands from decline and falling into Arg hands when he lost patience and invaded in 1982. Out of his cockup we transformed the |islands and built a modern society - now out of Christina,s bad tempered stupidity we can cement permanently our total economic and physical independence from anything
S.American!!
8 Domingo (#)Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:38 amReport abuseThe Uruguayan government can be sued for compensation and damages in Uruguayan courts; no doubt that may well prove to be a good cash cow for some fishing businesses. The judiciary requires evidence that acts are lawful, nor merely political opinion and can reverse political decisions that are unlawful
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A good test for the rule of law in Uruguay
GO GO DOMINGO
We made this decision because of what the FA ruled against Luis Suarez. ;)
Dec 21st, 2011 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 020
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0A ridiculous decision that Liverpool must appeal.
Hope Suarez keeps his chin up and wonder what John Terry will get?
Thinking about it, it could be the best thing that has happened in a long time.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0The battle lines are being drawn, no more shilly-shallying around.
Let's get some construction going.
Big oil tankers, delivered where you want.
Big Fishing Mother ships, processing fish as they go towards their markets.
Who needs South America? But we should not forget our friends in Chile.
Have to work them into the equation, somewhere.
Sounds like a bright future ahead, free from anything Argentine.
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Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly right.
I don't see this nonsense from “PUBA” to be a problem, more an opportunity for the Falkland Islands to exploit their resources to the maximum extent possible. And why not?
Love the fact that Paraguay has boldly declared its ports closed to Falkland Island flagged ships. Would imagine that lengthy river trip was a navigational treat and experience.
Barbara Tuchman wrote an excellent book of history 'The March Of The Folly' whose reading should be obligatory for all people in all governments before they swear in office. It analises how goverments in world history between Troy and Vietnam, pursued policies contrary to their own interest, despite advice and warnings against such policies, before they were put to work. And with this short comment I believe I've made it a day. Remember the dead, Argentines and British that 1982 folly brought upon us: our tears dried but we won't forget our children. Season greetings to all, friends and former foes! Argie aka Salvador
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0theft of fish and oil is not inocent passage unless you are a pirat and/or a criminals.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0What all the talk about Brits doing things without Argentina.That's what the occupiers of the Malvinas are always doing.The point about it is that it not British territory legally.The fact that you have to sell your illegally obtained gains to the UK,is normal practise for a colonized territory.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0John Terry wll not have a case to answer,like Blatter didn't,they have found their alien to make the example with, and a reduction to less of a ban will be the wrong signal.But this is football which is a law to itself.
Talk is cheap and harmless, and hurts no one, but serves the point of indoctrinating the people to off set problems at home,
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but we both know, sooner or later, the talking will have to stop, for her own people may well demand action,
Then what will she do ?
Sooner or later .
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Dec 21st, 2011 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We were doing quite a lot before Argentina unilaterally withdrew from earlier agreements, so what do you expect. The point is that the Falklands are British territory and until the Islanders want something different that's the way its going to stay.
I don't ask you to like it, just stop misrepresenting the truth.
#27 that sounds like fighting talk,just like thatcher always did to divert attention from the costs of Monetarism.But fighting talk is a natural language for Brits.
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#28 The details might be important but it's the facts,today,that are real.Colonies are beholden to the coloniser.
14 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 20th, 2011 - 03:18 pm
Dec 21st, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For sure Uruguay is not going to jeopardize the good economics has with Argentina for 2000 people...Simple math..
Oh for f### Sake are you serious. It is simple maths (with an s). Money. there could be 2 people or 2 Billion people in the Falklands. whoever has the bigger trade export for Uruguay will gain favour. The Uruguayans may not like Argentina but for now they will play the game. No one likes to be bullied. I'd wager Uruguay will tell Argentina to F### off soon enough.
#30 What exactly does ***k mean or have you misspelt something
Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for your most observant of remarks,money,and it's effect on the causes of friendships(otherwise seen as subservience),you need to make that point to the Brutish.They are the ones who think the world loves them.They don't,it's their money they like and they won't believe it until they don't have any.Oh,that can't be right.I must mean until they can't borrow any.
29 Yuleno (#)
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#27 that sounds like fighting talk
NO, its not fighting talk at all, neither is it threatening,
It happens to be a fact, that the UK government wishes to avoid if possible.
And Argentina will come to regret she ever heard of the Falklands,
The fact is, you can only talk so long,
Then action will inevitably take place,
Argentina is slowly stopping talking, as a cover, and slowly but surely pressuring others into action,
[Action] that will have repercussions ]
Even you must see that,
We are sliding to a conflict, that will [May] and can cost the lives of thousands,
And it will be the south Americans themselves, unwittingly and blindly doing Argentina’s, bidding, that may well start it,
Sooner or later, Britain must either
1, give up the Falklands, and hand it to you on a plate
And live with the shame
Or
2, retaliate to stop you guys encroaching any more on British interest,
Not fighting talk, just common sense,
You just keep on pushing, and pushing, with no regard to the inevitable consequences
Just an opinion . .
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#32 Option 1 is the right one.No shame.A strong thing to do.The world would be a better place.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 032 briton. Your solipsistic view of Britain and the likelihood of retaliation could have been a certain possibility in the Victoria Era. This one is slower to respond to threats, factual, virtual or imaginary. The escalating costs of defence had much to do with this, and if you live in the UK you might have watched in the past few years, scores of still-in-good-state RN ships of all classes sailing to their doom at the hands of oriental iron scrap buyers.
Dec 22nd, 2011 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I lived (studied, worked) in England for a while and visited it many times since, and I know where to scratch if I want a black eye or a beer. Argentina's power to annoy, as far as can see, is very close to nil, exception made of this tampering with a handful of innocent boats, which in fact does not have any real value, because there's no real harm to the islands' economy, but rather to a few shipowners and consignataires.
The Falkland-Malvinas islands' budget is improving by the hour, they don't need their insular European sugar-daddy to help them in any way, except of course with Atlantic vigilance by a couple of medium-sized war boats and, to cut this short, there's no danger that their continental neighbours attack (as we did in 1982) for the simple reason that, to this day, we have no armed forces.
Finally, I think that your vision is too Conservative, in the 'obsolete' department. I used to be an Enoch Powell's fan, and read all his books ('Fredom and Reality' I have dedicated and signed by him), but times have changed for all, for good or for worse. Best Christmas wishes!
We have no armed forces.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Finally,
This is irrelevant,
It’s not your decision or mine,
And that’s the problem, she will make that decision, she will not have to back it up, your military will have to,
And besides, this may well start small then escalate , if she can push others to do her dirty work for you,
[Will it happen?]
Maybe//maybe not, but ones things for sure my friend, the British are taking it seriously and all ready planning [just in case]
If it happens, then so be it,
If not then its peace all round,, it will purely depends on who’s doing the pushing,
Merry xmas
@35 briton,
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0l take their threats seriously,
They will try again,
We must be prepared.
Merry Christmas All.
briton @35 & Isolde @36.
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Relax and enjoy life as it is.
There's no way that we 'will try again'.
At least not as viciously as in 82. That's over.
Besides, islanders are always prepared, but without allowing it to be the leit motive of their lifes.
'She' can talk and scream and brush her her hair away from her face, and smile as wide as her botox permits, and win other chiefs of state for her 'patriotic' cause.
But L.A. countries change sides as easily as one change shirts, and the allied of yesterday can be today's foes.
This, which is basic for L.A.'s socio-political studies of the past 80 years, is a fact that, for some obscure reason, does not enter the heads of the UK military (who are planning to send a nuke sub to the area!), unless perhaps it's a matter for their survival or, worst still, the survival of their petty businesses.
Merry Christmas, all of you, my dear mates in the Falkland-Malvinas Is, and all the best for 2012!!! :-D
same to you
Dec 23rd, 2011 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0merryxmas
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Argie.
Dec 24th, 2011 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I consider Argentina to be an enemy of my country, due to your nations' aggressive and threatening behaviour towards mine.
However, I agree with you. One of the points I have made recently was the same as yours “remember the dead”. I pointed out to the Argentine hot heads that a conflict would lead to a great loss of life and not necessarily fill their expectations of a glorious victory, even if Argentina won.
I bet people like think, kipling etc won't be the ones sent out on a frigate, dodging bullets, or strapping into an FAA aircraft if the situation gets worse.
However, I can understand what Briton is saying. Our armed forces are very much weaker now than in the past, and the way things are going, they will get weaker for the next few years. I regret this as I believe in deterrence as a means of dissuading your enemies to attack you.
I can imagine Kirchner and her advisors thinking “go now or lose the opportunity”. You have a sufficiently large navy and airforce to inflict enough loss upon us to force us into a position where talks would have to take place. You have an alliance to help you, and the USA won't help us out (thanks USA, all those dead british soldiers in Helmand went there to help you fight the murderers behind 9/11). To quote Clautswitze “war is diplomacy by other means”.
Before you say it could'nt happen remember 2 things.
1 Argentine forces invaded in 1982 and threatened invasion in 1977. They have also fired on RN survey vessels.
2 People make mistakes, either of strategic judgement, or in the heat of the moment, war can start by mistake.
My country would be wise to sit up and do something to convince yours that a conflict is not in your best interest.
I agree with the idea of sending an RN attack sub into the area. It shows we mean business and that an attack or blockade will be opposed strongly.
Despite my hatred oif your country I bear you no personal animosity Argie. You talk sense.
Merry Christmas.
they dont even have to invade [as such]
Dec 24th, 2011 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a big enough force on one side of the island to hold a defensive possision,
then she can demand a ceasfire to talk, to save any bloodshed, then hey presto,
you never know,
and mr camaron will fall, and ect ect ect .
xmas mates .
shb-how unfortunate for Argentina that you hate them,it,her, or whatever it is you hate, the grass,the sky,the sun or what.I dont know only you can say.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such a nice person. Er um oh yes
Whats wrong with a bit of hatred, Yuleno?
Dec 28th, 2011 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many of your countrymen hate us, they often tell us so.
Hatred is one of the deadly sins, like......envy or covetness.
You envy us & you covet OUR country,no?
HNYear.
Hello Isolde.Hatred is not good for a person,it is harmful in many ways,including its affect on thought processes.But I'm sure you weren't being serious about it
Dec 28th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know about envy because isn't that coverting other people's property,like Sr think's estancia
Yuleno, l'm sure that you realise that it was a joke about sr Think's estancia!
Dec 28th, 2011 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l wanted to get a response from him as l haven't seen him post for quite some time.
Probably he is posting under another name(s). l don't really care.
Anyway, l don't know anything about his farm. lt may not be good enough for me!(another joke).
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