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Mercosur drafting resolution barring Falklands’ flagged vessels from all regional ports
Mercosur member countries meeting in Montevideo for their regular six-month summit are drafting a resolution that would bar Falklands’ flagged vessels from all Mercosur members’ ports, following on the traditional Argentine policy and now openly supported by the Uruguayan government. Read full article
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Dec 20th, 2011 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Uruguay !
How stupid and ignorant the Mercosur Gvt. can be with this resolution that won´t affect any vessel because there isn´t any Malvinas flagged vessel at all.....because the Malvinas doesn´t exist, never did and never will......
Dec 20th, 2011 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those ignorants politicians must accept yhat the island are called Falklands Islands and it will so for ever....
As all that the Mercosur do it means any improvement to the inhabitants of those countries, like trying to insert a country as Venezuela.....It seem the Mercosur is ruled by Argentina´s Gvt. wich explained the bad results obtained in from it initial date.....
Well done, Mercosur morons.......
TWIMC
Dec 20th, 2011 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The article says:
“We are circulating a draft declaration for vessels travelling to and from the Malvinas. The idea is that the vessels barred from one member country ports, are also barred from operating in other countries from the block”
I say:
Please remark......: No flags mentioned.....
Yet another nail on the British South Atlantic diplomatic coffin.....
Now we have proof positive that mercusur is a dead cockroach.No respect for the law of the sea. A bunch of neutered imbecilles.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Acts to repress the Falkland Islanders are unlawful.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0MERCOSUR members are legally obliged to respect UN Charter Articles 2, 73 and 74 according to UN Charter Article 103. They are also bound to respect the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
A kick in the pirats butt.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Mercosur members states act unwarranted outside of international law, Mercosur member states act like pirates themselves. It is shameful
Dec 20th, 2011 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The right thing to do is to respect and uphold international law. Mercosur acts in this regard are political, unlawful and unjustifiable
Argentina should take its dispute to the UN ICJ rather than subvert the rule of international law
Ah welcome back again Think! Good to see you are consistent on only commenting on stories that you believe have something to do with nails!
Dec 20th, 2011 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another day, another nail and another day under our chosen nationality - just like any other day. Keep those nails coming Think.
I see you have changed your repetitive and unoriginal statement to the “British South Atlantic diplomatic coffin” from the so called return of the Falklands to Argentina, I see you are now already starting to limit your own expectations! Good on you. A dose of realism will do you no harm.
#4:“Now we have proof positive that mercusur is a dead cockroach.No respect for the law of the sea. A bunch of neutered imbecilles”
Dec 20th, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? uk pirates: Buzz off!!
You do not like it? Too bad!! Go away! We do not need you!
For sure Brazil,Uruguay,Argentina,we are not going to loose any sleep for 2000 people...A nothingness.......
The right thing to do is to respect and uphold international law. Mercosur acts in this regard are political, unlawful and unjustifiable”
Really domingo? Also the law says you have to negotiate the sovereignity of MAlvinas with Argentina in good faith....uk IS FINISHED!!! That is the reality...
“Also the law says you have to negotiate the sovereignity..”
Dec 20th, 2011 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really Marv ? What law says that then ??
Yes Marv, what law says that then ??
Dec 20th, 2011 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marv, you miscalculate. The Falkland Islanders are British, so that includes a few more than 2000
Brazil, Uruguay and Argentine shall obey the UN Security Council because they are members of the UN and it is in their best interest to do so
What law says your own ports have to allow anyone in.No law say north Korean plutonium has to allowed into any port.No law say illegally caught fish should be allowed into a port.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the 21st century and colonialism is illegal,and the use of diversionary tactics might be welcomed by those who cannot have their own foreign policy,but it is only diversionary to those who have to endure territorial occupation.
89 years max!
Marv- please list the UN Laws or Articles that say UK/FI have to discuss Sov with Arg?
Dec 20th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There ARE Laws and Articles about Int Approved Flags etc - ours has been on the Int Registry for 150years and thus automatically on the UN ones ever since formed about 1949 or so? - Ur Foreign Minister must be rather thick!
Also tell me_ if someone came along and said My ancestors claimed the land your house is on and I want it and the only result of discussions is that you give me that land.
Would you be prepared to sit down and talk knowing that you were going to sign away your land ( that your family had built up and developed over 180 years from nothing) to that person regardless of whatever Int Law may say?
I challenge you - answer me - yes - or No?
Interesting to see if Mercosur officially blacks an Associate Member State of the EU - not much chance of Mercosur then ever getting a Trade Agreement with the EU itself later!!
Brits, The rig Ocean Pirate will be departing soon, good opportunity to hitchhike a ride back.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Foreign Affairs minister Luis Almagro
Thank you President Pepe Mujica
Thank you Uruguay!
Think - are you unwilling to take me up on my little wager? Firstly I bet that ships will continue to travel between the FI and Uruguay (you appear to think the opposite). Secondly I bet that I can spot at least one FI flagged vessel in a Uruguay port in 2012.
Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The loser has to leave these forums alone forever after acknowledging defeat.
Marcos was too much of a chicken to take me up on my oil drilling bet. Can you show all that you Argies have some balls?
Marv- please list the UN Laws or Articles that say UK/FI have to discuss Sov with Arg?
Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did uk signed and accepted UNGA res? So it says in good faith to negotiate?
The existence of a dispute had been clearly recognized by UN General Assembly Resolutions 2065 (XX), 3160 (XXVIII) and 311 49 (XXXI). It had also been recognized by the British Government when it entered into negotiations with Argentina about sovereignty over the Falklands no later than March 1967. At various times, Argentina had been given to understand that there might be an eventual transfer of sovereignty to Argentina under certain conditions. Since December 1980, however, Britain had adopted the position of pretending to negotiate seriously with Argentina while in fact not being willing to make any further concessions.
http://www.malvinasonline.com.ar/index.php/derecho-internacional/articulos/57-the-british-resort-to-force.html
Marv, you miscalculate. The Falkland Islanders are British, so that includes a few more than 2000,eally domingo?? I taught that self determination was the paramount card uk is playing!! We can also say,that 300 million people belong to SA,and we want the brits out of the SA!! GAME OVER!! We win our selfdetermination!! Rigth?
Marcos old friend- there is BIGGER rig on the way down!! If I ever want to travel to UK, I would fly on one of the 10 times a month comfortable direct flights! Dont understand your angle at all?
Dec 20th, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for thanking Pepito- will the little chappy in Monte always does what the big bully says- you know it - we know it and accept it! Wonder how he will explain it when the dredging still does not happen!
Marv, Argentina has a dispute which the UN GA invited Argentina to resolve with Great Britain by peaceful negotiation
Dec 20th, 2011 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Negotiations began but Argentina unlawfully ended peaceful negotiations and chose violence through its hostile invasion of the Falkland Islands, preferring the principle of uti possedetis to UN Treaty Charter Articles and UN GA resolutions
Argentina lost its war and the principle of uti possidetis, ita possideatis applies. Furthermore Great Britain recognizes its obligations to the Falkland Islanders under Article 73 and resolutions 1514(XV) and 2065(XX) and has allowed the Falkland Islanders to develop their own form of self-government and free association
Ultimately South American nations shall support and enforce the UN Treaty as it applies to Argentina and its obligations to the Falkland Islanders , whilst the UN Security Council shall enforce the UN Treaty on Argentina regardless of opinion.
Argentina miscalculates if it thinks Argentina's dispute shall lead South American states to revoke their UN Treaty obligations; that will never happen because it is not in their self-interest
The fact is the British fought back in self-defense against Argentine aggression and won; little wonder they cannot see a reason to negotiate further. They were attacked!
Argentina has never apologized nor recompensed Great Britain and the Falkland Islanders even though Argentina acted unlawfully and caused much destruction and loss of life; instead modern Argentina seeks to blame past governments rather than accept responsibility and accountability for the unlawful acts it has committed contrary to its UN Treaty obligations
These are the reasons why the British shall not negotiate; the British are in the right and Argentina has wronged the Britain badly
argentina is still living in the past,
Dec 21st, 2011 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and acting like a spoilt 5 year old,
you will not get them, full stop.
Domingo if Argentina reclaimed it's territory illegally that is one thing,but what resolution did the UN pass to reinstate the status quo?None.Because if the UK had gone to the UN it would be risking not getting their way.Instead they spent money and lost lives.Does that not suggest something?
Dec 21st, 2011 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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