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Chile confirms it supports Mercosur resolution barring Falklands’ flagged vessels

Tuesday, December 27th 2011 - 07:04 UTC
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Chilean government Secretary General Andres Chadwick denied on Monday any official message from Britain or from Spain regarding Chilean support for the resolution that bars vessels flying the Malvinas flag from Mercosur ports, reports La Tercera from Santiago. Read full article

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  • Frank

    Malvinas Flag? no such thing....

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Too obvious !

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/tightening-the-noose/

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    A bit late?

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    jaja. who will give support to a fantasy flag of a fantasy land called falklands... please end this joke and return Malvinas to Argentina!!! (UK dont have support of anyone, and became no the worst economy of Europe!!)

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I love how literal the Argentine bloggers are, it is childlike. Sweet.

    I think news from outside of Argentina must take a long time to filter through, in fact I know it does. Always ten steps behind the current situation.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    You can kiss the Lan Chile flights goodbye Chey. But never mind - the airport on St.Helena will be built soon so you can have your holidays there hahahaha.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    I believe that some of the Islanders would be quite happy with no contact with South America at all. And you are quite correct, St. Helena has a lot to offer.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    es, St H. will have JF Kennedy, at this moment!!! Without any money, Come on people, don´t dream with flight cows!!! The next step is going to aly with African Contries against UK, and SA!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElCuraF

    the flag of Islas Malvinas:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LpLzyRTfIuw/TU3fGukVRRI/AAAAAAAADeA/19SCWm18kn0/s1600/Bandera+de+malvinas.jpg

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    Loving it!!!
    Lol @ british blogger calling the argentine, argie blogger.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    yes, I goona give the bloggers against UK, trillions!!!!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    Kelper bloggers. Haha!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kelper San

    Come on people you must admit that Argentina is a very advanced country, after all in 1833 the argies were kick off the Falkland Islands, now seeing as there was no place called the Argentine till 1861, they must have mastered the ability to time travel, so come on give them credit, no forget that you give them credit and they will never pay it back,

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jefferson's soul

    wise decision if you ask me

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    My the English exhibiting a little humour.It must be black things are beginning to go so badly.
    even some of the big London papers are now calling for urgent talks as the noose tightens ever so slowly.
    As for those who love the literal bloggers I have to confess adoring those dreamers who populate this area they are so comical

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    This bully argentines are preassuring all the continent and managing Latinamerican Foreign Relations! Poor Brazil! Poor Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador and Venezuela! No other choice but to follow Argentinian orders! Argentina superpower is making China recognize its illegal claims over the peaceful and innocent Falklands! What about Spain? Another one suffering argentina bullies.... making Spain renew the efforts to recover Gibraltar... only to go against UK interests!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    While Falklands can be supplied with food fuel etc from UK. Islanders should look at the possibility of establishing business and possibly air links to the USA. In order that they can have access to international airports without having to come all the way to Brize Norton in the event of the air link being abolished. Although the US signed the OAS agreement Obama wouldn't really go as far as to support the embargo would he.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @17 A flight straigth to Tokyo wold be very convenient.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    It's looking like Falklanders can't have guaranteed convenient flights anymore so the next best thing to keep their travel and business arrangements working needs to be looked at.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    The next best thing to keep their travel and business arrangements working is to accept to accept they´re on argentinian territory and recognize its authorities...
    Of course they also have the chance to flight to St Helena. Very convenient.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    I understand that the LAN Chile flight reprsents 30% of their current air contact, but that, if the oil is commercialised, the oil companies will also put on flights which the Islanders can access.

    They're British, so they won't give in to bullying!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    excusse me, but the LAN CHILE doesn´t exist, now It is TAM (Brazilian Company).

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    Falklanders will never be ruled under dictatorship no matter what that dictatorship does to try and force them to accept it's ways. And before you bleat about argentina not being a dictatorship policy towards Falklands is the same now as it was under the Galteri to all intents and purposes argentine administration would be the same as being under Galteri as they would be denied the right to choose their Government.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @23 Mr Charle Lies

    There´s no dictatorship.

    You are occupying argentine territory. We didn´t bring you down here, so don´t blame us. The only thing we want you to accept is that you´re occupying our territory.

    And you won´t be denied your right to chose your governement. As any other argentine, you have the right to chose your governement, in this case the one in your capital city, Ushuaia.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    23 steady on Charlie you have froth coming from your mouth but gibberish from your keyboard.
    21 wonderful you accept my point they are “British” planters.Well Big boy its great to see you are really waking up these days

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    Firstly I live in UK my only concern is for the rights of Islanders. Secondly Falklanders have freely indicated they wish to be constitutionally tied to UK. Therefore to force them to accept ties with Buenos aries is in itself an act of dictatorship. Also remember the capital of the Falkland Islands is stanley which already has it's own elected Government which does a great job of representing the Falkland Islands.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Falklanders doesn´t exist, just few persons. Why does anybody (all araound the world) want to consult you? When did it happen? You are the big terrorist (MI6) against South America. I recommend you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6MBHpzZg8

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    I accept that they are Falklanders who choose to be British O'Gaga, same as those in Northern Ireland who choose to be British.

    Choice. That's what it's all about.

    Implants are what Tits have!

    And still with 'big boy' - you play for the other side by any chance? Bit weird unless you are sexually attracted to men. But then, maybe its Mrs. O'Gaga ?

    Should have guessed!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    27 This is the problem if Falklands became part of Argentina as a small community they'd have no rights over their Islands or Homes. Whereas with UK they have the same rights as anyone else That's why they'll never accept Argentine rule.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @26

    We´re all concern about the rights of Islanders. If they want to be tied to the UK, they can be tied to the UK in british territory, not in argentine. Argentina won´t accept the “right” of any part of its population to chose to be tied to whatever country they choose and will confront that “right” no matter of its the Malvinenses, Santacruceños o Misioneros those with those “rights”. Territorial Integrity comes first.

    To force them to be tied with Buenos Aires is not an act of dictatorship. The islands are part of Argentina, how can they be tied to a foreing power? If the islanders want to leave or stay.. they can do whatever they want.

    The Falklands Governement represents the imported population that by force and by an act of piracy expelled the original population.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fred

    @22 Actually Lan and Tam merged and now have the name of Latam so that the new company is a Chilean-Brazilian corporation. Actually more Chilean than Brazilian since Lan was bigger than Tam.

    Both trademarks will remain for a while though it's quite possible only “Lan” name will be used in mid and long terms because as a I said before Lan was bigger than Tam.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    I guess, if you are not south american WTF are you doing in south america??????? Did you lost your GPS????? Leave!!!!
    Are you dolphins with your sonar broken?????
    If you think you live in north hemisfhere i doubt very much about you education level.

    It is stupid to say that you are not south american please stop saying that becuase no body is going to belive you neither in England. It is a geographical matter, you cannot choise it at least you leave or you invent a machine to move the island to the north. JAJAJAJAJA

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    Lan + Tam = “LatAm”.

    Seems like a reminder: “you are in Latin America”.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Excusse me the Northem Ireland can´t choose for any right.... the minnoritary anglican people domains without democracy thru UK ARMY. What the hell are you talking about? Come on!!!! The Ireland Independece was in 1947 thru a lot criminal acts (for UK). Until now, withou UK resolution and justice. http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1648305_1419205,00.html

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Crackpot

    @12: “We didn´t bring you down here...”

    Quite correct. That's because Britain was “going down there” long before your country ever existed.

    @30: “If they want to be tied to the UK, they can be tied to the UK in british territory,...”

    Last time I looked, they were already tied to British territory - the Falkland Islands BOT.

    All this “imported population” nonsense is really tiresome. Most of the people in South America today are imported. Double standards?

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    as imported, you have less right than us.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @35 Latinamerican population is the result of the original + the inmigrants... they originated latinamerican population, they fighted colonial powers and became independent.

    No double Standard. Different scenario. You´re still a colony.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    @30 Falklands have never been part of argentina never will be and no indigenous population was ever expelled.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    Do you still think that you are not in south america?????

    I am conserned about you!!!!!!

    If your illegal goverment could put you that in your head it is terrible.
    You are being manipulated.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @38 Forget about Argentina and think of the world... what is the worl saying? “Argentina stop your bullying intentions” or “UK sit down and settle the dispute peacefully with Argentina”? What do you think the world is saying? And why is that? Because Argentina is imposing its lies to the world? Or because the world doubts about the British “truth”?

    Only pirats tricky lies....

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    I think that the people who write here from the islanders side are paid to do it.

    Because the write a lot all the time. When do they work???? And the answer is they are working doing this.

    You would say and you in the continent???? In the continent we are 40.000.000 of persons. Some work at morning another during nigth.

    And you??? 1500 civilian people.... I really doubt you work at night on the islands, except expending drinks!!!!!!!

    or making the machine to move the islands to the north. Keep trying maybe you will get it!!!!!!

    This is all a circus!!!! This is british paid propaganda.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @41 Jaja Yo! jaja I don´t think so... there´re many from our side and we´re not payed. Besides, in Malvinas there´s not much to do... wonder why it has the highiest rate of internet usage! :)

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    @41 Jaja Yo! jaja I don´t think so... there´re many from our side and we´re not payed. Besides, in Malvinas there´s not much to do... wonder why it has the highiest rate of internet usage! :)

    Whose side are you???

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @42 Take a look at my nick: “Islas Malvinas”

    Isn´t that clear enough?

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    Sorry about my english. i readed it fast and didnt understand.
    I prefer to speak in spanish but this “tolerant” people ban it.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @45 Jajajaj Becuase they are in “Montevideo”, and guess what language is spoken in Montevideo! ENGLISH! ajaja Don´t believe argentinian lies about Uruguay speaking Spanish! jaja

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    @ 40 I say forget argentina and the rest of the world think about the islanders and islanders alone they are the only ones who matter here. @41 Most of us here in UK are on a 2 week Holiday from work so we have plenty of time to write on these boards. Also internet is available all the time through Phones laptops etc so we can post almost whenever we want it's one of the joys of living in a country that invests in good communication networks.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @47 The “self determination” in only an excuse. You only care about the “self determination” of your colonies only when its convenient for you. Take a look at your history books. Was the “self determination” rights of the population in Hong Kong ever taken into account when negotiating with China? Ha ha ha Please, don´t make me laugh!
    Or, I think twice... please do make me laugh! That´s the reason why I keep readin your comments... funny briton lies!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    In the continent we have internet in our phones the same that you. Who told you we dont??? He must be the same that told you are not south american . Ah take a look at the name of this newspaper “Mercopress. South atlantic news agency” South Atlantic. And like the islands belong to America it is SOUTH AMERICA......

    Si seguro en Montevideo hablan en ingles todo el tiempo, jajajaja

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    Hong Kong was leased in agreement with China a little like leasing a house for a period of time it had to be returned. Falklands were never leased from anyone they are British so ne need to negotiate with anyone. And since 1945 Uk has cared about self determination that's why places that wanted independence got it. Places that don't are welcome to remain tied to Uk. Their rights will always be respected until the end of time.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    Time is over

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “Chile confirms it supports Mercosur resolution barring Falklands’ flagged vessels”
    Thank you Chile!
    Please give Sergio Pinochet Vega a little time to return home :-)))

    17 Charle
    “Islanders should look at the possibility of establishing business and possibly air links to the USA”

    Charle
    The paternal grandfather of the American President-elect Barack Obama.

    “ the British held him for two years during which he was ”whipped every morning and evening“. ”They would sometimes squeeze his testicles with metal rods,“ they recalled. ”They also pierced his nails and buttocks with a sharp pin, with his hands and legs tied together. He was lucky to survive. Some of his fellow inmates were mutilated with castration pliers and beaten to death with clubs.”

    You have a better chance buying their retired space shuttle fleet on the way to museums.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23620970-will-obama-forgive-britain-for-his-grandfathers-torture.do

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lau8685

    Qué ingleses de merdaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Las Malvinas son argentinas!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    If obama didn't help Falklanders to maintain business when asked that would give us all the reason we need to pull completely out of the Afghan war and concentrate everything on defending Falklands. That said the way we did things in Kenya was wrong we no longer treat people like that. We stopped that in the 50's South America continued torturing people until around the early 90's.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Crackpot

    @37 “@35 Latinamerican population is the result of the original + the inmigrants... they originated latinamerican population, they fighted colonial powers and became independent.
    No double Standard. Different scenario. You´re still a colony.”

    The current Falkland Islands population is the result of the original (first ) inhabitants + subsequent imigrants... They were perfectly happy with being a colony and so had no reason to fight the colonial powers (maybe the British were just better colonial masters than the Spanish). The colony has now evolved into a self-governing BOT.

    Exactly the same scenario, just a different outcome.

    DEFINITE double standard

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    what good people you are. You stopeed killing people 40 years earlier that is to be good people....

    You make me laugh!!!!

    And Afganistan???? and irak?????? ahhhh i know they were not people for you....

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    54 Charle “ That said the way we did things in Kenya was wrong we no longer treat people like that. We stopped that in the 50's”
    No you didn't, but don't take my word for it just ask 1st Battalion Queen's Royal Lancashire Regiment.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14835527

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cero

    BRITISH GO HOME, YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE, INVADERS, USURPERS, THIEVES

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    Cero The Britsh are home thanks. @ 57 the fact that just one death lead to such a huge enquiry proves that UK does not have a policy of abusing prisoners.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @ 55 Cockroach

    98% is British. There´s no “original” population (appart for those expelled).

    You´re happy being a colony, ´cos you can´t stand on your own feet,

    “British Oversea Territory” that´s what colonies are called in the XXI century to pretend they´re something but a colony.

    Self governing? In your dreams.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geo

    ** 9 El CuraF

    could we see this Malvinas flagged meetings at Buenos Aires streets.!?

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    @55. There were no expulsions from Falklands. I reralise the indoctrination you go through at school is hard to overcome but really if you ever want to be taken seriously you have to move away from the indoctrination speech. The only people ever expelled were the Argentine Garrison in 1833 which was there despite UK making clear it owned the islands and the Argentine soldiers of 1982 who again were there illegally. Falklands is not a colony irt is a self Governing overseas territory with full internal Government UK does just 2things Defence and foreign policy.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    25 O gaga
    Whats it like then to be a planter in South America?

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cero

    PETER PRESTON, THE GUARDIAN, UK: “IT MAKES NO ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL SENSE TO HANG ON TO THE FALKLANDS, BUT NO ONE WILL FACE THE TRUTH”
    MORE: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/14/falklands-economic-crisis-politics-argentina

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    It doesn't matter what economic or political sense it makes we are obligated to the citizens of the Falkland islands to defend their rights. Politics and economics have no place in the situation.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @64 Peter Preston is entitled to his opinion but in our democracy one unelected person does not dictate policy. The elected government of the people of the UK think differently and the Prime Minister has said we will never negotiate the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands unless the Islanders wish it.

    Given the invective directed to the Islanders by the Argentines posting here and the actions of the Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner Chavez, I doubt they will ever make such a request.

    Nothing has changed, nothing will change.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Crackpot

    @ 60 Maladjusted

    ”98% is British. There´s no “original” population (appart for those expelled).
    You´re happy being a colony, ´cos you can´t stand on your own feet,
    “British Oversea Territory” that´s what colonies are called in the XXI century to pretend they´re something but a colony.
    Self governing? In your dreams.”

    Why is it that the few members of Vernet's settlement who decided (voluntarily)to go home are considered as the original inhabitants in your mind, but the majority who stayed are not. Double standards again. Also, only about 70% are of British descent.
    You are partially correct that the Islanders cannot stand on their own two feet, but only in one very important area. The fact that they have an aggressive nation on their doorstep with a grudge that is well past its sell-by date means that they need external help when it comes to defence. Apart from that (and a bit of help in foreign affairs) they can look after themselves quite nicely.

    You are right to some extent that colonies are now called BOTs, but they have evovled considerably from the original concept. The Falkland Islanders have far more say over their own affairs than you will eer have in Argentina. France basically call theirs Overseas Departments, but you don't seem to have any problems with the hug one of those sitting on your continent. Maybe its because you know that the French wouldn't take any shit from anyone when it comes to their overseas territories. The British are probably far too diplomaic on these issues and should take a harder line.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rosarino

    Islanders, you must change “self determination” by SELF DRAMATIZATION
    oNLY WE ARE THE LIERS, AND WE CONVENCE THE E-NTIRE wolrd about our ritghs
    South Americans Brothers, i will love to see you boarding one LATAM aircraft..... audited in RIO GALLEGOS by argentinians, and you most pay our import taxes.....

    Believe me: try to find a huge qtty of psychologists because you will need them for change your nationality ;)
    Remember: SUDAMERICANOS- LATINOAMERICANOS- Y ARGENTINOS-

    Regardsss

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Charle

    Argentina must change it must stop believing it can rule any country it takes a fancy to.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    @68 Rosa

    No one cares about what argentina wants, it will NEVER get the Falklands by trying these cheap tricks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AguanteWiki

    @69 Charle We don't believe we can rule “any country it takes a fancy to”; what we do believe is that we can rule our own country. Malvinas is part of our country, they were stolen, we want them back; that's all.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    @71
    The Falklands have always been British end of story!!!
    And it would be a VERY good idea if argentina concentrated on running its own country rather than using the Falklands as an excuse for Failed policies that operate in argentina!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AguanteWiki

    @72 Papamoa
    You can shout whatever you want, dear, that does not make it true... The only islands belonging to Britain are those on the North Sea. And as for failed policies, it would be a good idea to look yourselves in the mirror. Greetings.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    To all the Argentines on here: When are you guys ever going to get a life and accept facts?
    FACT- The new airport on St Helana is NOTHING to do witht eh Falklands and is NOT LONG ENOUGH nor was it ver meant to be - for flights to/from the Falklands!

    FACT: The Falklands have currently a mere 4 flights a month to South America they can book seats on.

    FACT: The Falkands have 10-TEN- flights a month they can use seats on to Europe ALSO 2 wide bodied direct AirFreight flights a month from Europe.

    FACT: The Falklands Govt has an alternative option to put in place if really needed should Arg bully Chile into dropping the current Lan flight.

    FACT- We are not quaking in our boots and quite frankly - “bring it on- cut the flight - as it will get Arg NOWHERE”.

    FACT: If the flight is cut then The Islands will accept that the 1999 Agreement has been torn up by Argentina and we will reintroduce our total ban on Arg Passports which will mean NO next of kin families/war veterans etc will EVER be able to vist the graves/battlefields unless they have another passport and can afford to travel all the way via Europe.

    Do please tell me - WHICH Nation stands to loose the most?

    Oh and yes all us Islanders on here are masters of our own words - we live in a democracy! And get another fact straight dumbos- our poulation is 3000 - not 1500 nor 2000, and all bar 4 of the settlers who were here in 1833 STAYED here volunatarily- that is a documented FACT in your own Archives in Buenos Aires!!!
    SelfSufficient? - we have been financially internally self sufficient ever since about 1880!!!!

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    The British are an Island peoples - we are on islands everywhere. We are on an island NEAR YOU :-)

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AguanteWiki

    @74 Islander1 If by “accept facts” you mean give up our land, the answer is never. This just is not going to happen, you should know that. In regards to your list of “FACTS”, some of them are true, but I dont get your point.

    Dec 27th, 2011 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    NewsFlash. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner suffers from papillary thyroid cancer, she will have surgery in January next year. This has been announced today.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expat

    If Lan cuts the flight,which I dont believe ,chileasn hate the argies and they dont want to support them.
    But if that happens GB has the right to call the European Unit to ban all flights from aerolineas to Spain,Italy and france and to freeze all Argie assets in Europe.The same as the European Union did 1982.And maybe
    USA will join banning flight to USA,

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    Well, Islanders...don´t worry...Mr. Piñera stand clearly that the Malvinas flagged vessels will be banned at our ports.....as the Malvinas flag doesn´t exist no ship will be involved in that ban.....and the Falklands Islands flagged vessels will continue arriving to our ports....as they did this year (Protegat, Concordia Bay, Pharos)....
    The argentine Gvt. is not reliable at all, we have long experience about.....so take it easy, Mr. Piñera is playing with Ms. Potox, excuse me Ms. Botox.....
    Weekly LAN flight will continue also, as they need it to visit their family graves at Falklands....
    In diplomacy you say one thing and do the other, that it´s well known....

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    @76 Aga If by “accept facts” you mean give up our land, the answer is never. This just is not going to happen, you should know that.

    Sergio - I suspect that you are correct :-)

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Chilean group ‘Solidarity with Malvinas”
    “visited this week the Argentine legation in Santiago to meet Ambassador Ginés González Garcia and express their support for Argentina’s claim over the disputed Malvinas and other South Atlantic islands”

    Well, Islanders...do worry
    Not even Cristina's surgery next week will slow down the avalanche of support from all South American nations, including Chile.

    Chilean President Piñera a few days ago:
    “The position of the Chilean government is clear and firm: we back and support the right of Argentina, on legal and historic reasons, over the Malvinas and other adjoining islands”

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    76AW - just that so many Arg writers on here live in this fantasy world where everything they say must be the truth and hard fact because and Arg said it! - your new Ambassador in Washington is a prime example! Why on earth with all the solid evidence and beliefas you claim to have - dont you just take the issue to the Int Court - Why Not?

    Sergio- I agree, the Chilean statement is carefully and cleverly worded! To clever for some I expect!

    Marcos the position of Chile has ALWAYS been very clear - public support for Arg at the UN/OAS etc - and little more.

    Tell me what name do you see on the flight departure board in Punta Airport on a saturday?
    Which Govt departmet does Lan communicate with before and during the flight for all the normal International procedures?
    Whose flag do you see openly displayed in several bars and restaurants in Punta Arenas?
    What Country Name do Chilean Govt Deptartments address export paperwork to for exports to the Falklands (air and sea)?

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Islander, the time is over! How many times are you gonna see this flag in Chile?, 2 good news, now the flight the Chile from FI WILL BE CANCELED, NO MORE ST HELENS AIRPORT!

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Kippers - keep taking the tablets, St. Helena airport hasn't been built yet, and its on St. Helena, not the Falklands. When it is built, with the present spec, the runway will be too short for civilian flights to the Falklands. Military flights on the other hand ...... !

    As for Chile. They have a history of saying one thing, and doing something else. Much like Brazil in fact. Which is why the oil exploration has continued unimpeded.

    Now if the Islanders can get their deep water port built, they'll have almost no need at all to stay in touch with the neighbours.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    How sad, to see these uneducated indoctrinated deluded children tear apart the south American continent,
    They know not, that supporting a known bully will reflect badly on them and drag them down with Argentina,
    CFK must be congratulated, in uniting all these deluded followers to Argentina’s, deluded claims, for she is going to ruin everything for her deluded dreams, by bullying and cohering others to do her dirty work, if it all goes well and Argentina gets them back without a fight, she can congratulate herself, and her allies,

    But if it all backfires and ends up in a violent conflicted, then South America may yet like to regret their actions,
    For rather leading them to victory,
    She may well be leading them to hell,
    All decisions have consequences,
    As the world may very reluctantly find out,
    Just a thought .
    .

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    82 Islander1 Not for too long.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    I SAID IT BEFORE, THIS WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    #84 - I have a gift you know ?

    I speak, and it appears :-)

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    85 there wont be any conflict your country is run by the city whose only concern is money their money.They kniw the game is up South America booms while Europe collapses.The key is Argentina must be strong and not do any quick deals that allow the city have any influence whatsoever in the South Atlantic

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    84 - How long is the runway on Ascion Island then

    You are right once the port is built the South Atlantic will develope completely independant of South America. Find enough oil and its a done deal.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    #79 quite being such a sycophant.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yo

    82- that is because we allow the fligths.

    they are going to be stopped if England doesn´t talk.

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    #79 Sergio Vega: Said everything that needed to be said.
    Mr. Chadwick- like 111% of all Latin Americans doesn't know a thing about the Falklands (he has only heard about a fiction called “malvinas”.) And, being a Santiaguino, he probably doesn't know much more about the Magallanes region either.

    Philippe

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rosarino

    Xbarilox:
    Probably itwould happens:
    When you become an argentina citizen (of course at your will ;) ) if you import something from other country you must pay taxes of import-
    Argentina want to audited those fligths, because RIGTH KNOW, Chile recognize our rigths on Malvinas...and is our rigth to collect taxes-
    So: Chile can{t say NO; because their recognize our rigths.
    Probably you say NO: you don´t want to pay any tax to Argentina.
    So is possible you cancell by your own the fligths...you understand that?

    BUT; if the countries recognize our rigths...we can collect same taxes by customs agreements in every country you want to use for sail or fligth to the islands....WHY?....because they recognize those islands as ARGENTINIAN LAND-

    Regards-

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cero

    British, go home. Give us back our land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dec 28th, 2011 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    94 Rosarino
    ''we can collect same taxes by customs agreements in every country you want to use for sail or fligth to the islands...''

    No you can't. Flights from the UK via Ascension Island? No, I don't think so. If the Lan flight stops and we put in a flight to Miami.....no, no taxes for you.
    Because that's not the way it works. You don't pay tax when you leave a country unless it's a tax for using the airport. You don't get customs people searching bags in a departure terminal. You pay tax on imported goods at the point of entry. What are you going to do? Have customs officials at every connecting airport?

    I don't normally comment on people's spelling, but it's fliGHT, riGHT etc.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Rosarino, dejame reir, son de terror estos. From Miami, so nice travel!!! what else? Viva Jean Peaks, eso es ser Argentino!!!!

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    How sad, to see these uneducated indoctrinated deluded children tear apart the south American continent,
    They know not, that supporting a known bully will reflect badly on them and drag them down with Argentina,
    AHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
    the great brit cheetah wrote...really hillarious.....

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    98, you have a PHD in Oxford, imagine, so clever to live in Malvinas!

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Nothing to see here! Usual trolls from Argentina, called Marvinistas.

    Generally found to be brain dead, this particular species will be extinct soon enough. With any luck :-)

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    such childish replies
    the use of the easy letters like [A][H]
    childish

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jedi389

    My family are 9th Generation “Falkland Islanders”. We are here by choice and wish to remain on the FALKLAND ISLANDS. As I have said before there is no negotiation on our sovereignty. We are British and wish to remain so. The only thing that Argentina would accept is total subjugation of a nation.

    Discussions are not a one sided thing and it is quite right the the British government will not enter into a dialogue with Argentina unless WE wish to do so. The whole talks would be stymied before they even start as there will be no compromise from either side, and quite rightly from a Falkland Islands point of view.

    If you wish to see the flag that my children were born under and I am unwilling to sacrifice - http://flagspot.net/flags/fk.html

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    What a brilliant move!

    When huge amounts of oil start flowing from the Falkland oil fields, guess what flag the tankers will be flying?

    South America can kiss cheap Falkland oil goodbye.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    102 your people were the representatives of a European colonial power who terrorized half the planet.This empire has refused people from the South American mainland the right to live in part of the continent.The World is changing power is moving away from Europe every day.You people would be very wise to sit down to open negotiations with Argentina now because beleive me if you dont the City will sell you out in the next ten years

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    What ever may, or may not, have happened in the past, it is now argentina that is doing the terrorising. The south atlantic is not inherently a part of south america.
    Power has been moving away from europe for the last century, not towards south america though.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    What terrorizing are you on about.I dont see any violence but a boycot by South Americans against a colonial anachronism they hate.
    Obviously you havent seen Brazil has just become the Worlds sisth biggest economy and Argentina in 2011 will be one of the fastest growing countries on Earth.Well i suppose if you want to be blind be blind but its happening like it or not

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Can the Argie posters answer these two questions?

    If you have regional support then why are the two following events occurring?

    1) There is an FI flagged vessel in Uruguay (I thought they were banned)
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=740352000

    2) The Leiv Eiriksson drilling platform is steaming towards Brazil after leaving Cape Verde
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=740352000

    Is this economic engagement with the FI the exact opposite of what you are being told by your leadership? The evidence is above if you care to take your head out of the sand.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    104 O gara
    What are you talking about? There are loads of people from the mainland of South America living here.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Read some of the postings here and you'll see the terrorising.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • parenas

    BRUNO EUGENIO TECAY RAILEF,Adopting this position our government against the flag of Falkland is the best thing is a fact. Whether the Falklands, in addition to paying poor wages, along with Trafficking in Chileans, to carry Slave Labor. No rights to defend themselves from abuse and discriminated costante made ​​by “local” or kelpers, to the Chilean is an outrage. Aside from being racist, even that environment is perceived in the Catholic Church itself or Stanley Stanley as they call the English pirates. Now, with respect to which they determine their own autonomy, not who could believe so gross and crazy statement.

    Since those who rule and give orders are from London. In today if Malvinas, is a poor island where a few wealthy and live well. But they do not say how many Indonesians or Phillipine Slavs or Peruvian desert to reach the boats and swim to the islands of ill-treatment products of the captains and ship owners, among these include a number of Chileans at the point of lies have been Rich indeed, even causing any harm to society. The other thing I could salvage, is that the Chileans who live in the Falklands are 100 times poorer than in their own Country. Many of them come to lie to Punta Arenas, saying they live in heaven, and when you go there, you realize that leasing go and do not have to eat. For example, I work for IFCM ° and I can say that at the Lookout Lodge, meals and if they gave NO ate something, but it went Peeling the premises. Icluso met a Migge Name Chilote Chest, according to the head crazy, he's English, then, just wondering what kind of world are we?, If he is from Punta Arenas and has familiaaqui this animal.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    [Another brainwashed fool]
    meanwhile .

    Mirror effect.
    [but a boycott by South Americans against a colonial anachronism they hate.]
    So that’s ok then,
    But what if the British in return boycotted Argentina,
    Then you and other indocronoughts , will be among the first to call us imperialist
    Just think of the abuse we would get,
    Yet alas, its ok for Argentina to break international law [is it not]
    As they seem to be a law unto themselves,
    And very soon, others will follow their example and also do what they want, then you will have chaos,
    And all because the UN wont put Argentina in its place.

    Dec 29th, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Over 100 comments on this subject and we are still british. A billion comments won't change it either. 1000 years won't either. Get used to it Argentina we are Proud to be British and more proud to be Falkland Islanders living our dream in a democratic way we chose to live.
    You could not persuade us in 1982 what makes you think you can change our wish now.

    Dec 30th, 2011 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    92 Yo (#)
    - that is because we allow the flights.

    they are going to be stopped if England doesn’t talk

    [ah at the point of a gun]

    .

    Dec 30th, 2011 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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