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Brazil’s Embraer sells 29 Super Tucano aircraft to the US Air Force
Brazilian plane-maker Embraer will sell its A-29 Super Tucano aircraft to the US Air Force, in a firm-fixed price delivery order contract worth 355 million dollars, the company said in a statement. Read full article
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Jan 02nd, 2012 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0For use in the US or in central South America? I suspect for drug supression in S.A.
South American planes sold to the US.Now isnt that a clear signal of how the World is changing
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0looks like an old spitfire or something from ww2. Maybe the US would be better putting them in a museum.
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The turboprop is said to have enhanced performance for ambiences such as dense forests. Colombia has often employed them in her fight against the FARCs. As Geoff has guessed, the US probably intends to use them in the fight against drug cartels in Central and northern South America.
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Valle Ricardo
Has Chilean copper already learned to fly? :)
“As Geoff has guessed, the US probably intends to use them in the fight against drug cartels in Central and northern South America.”
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the US is “serious” about fighting to so called war on drugs and cartels, they would also secure the border with mexico where the drug cartels (who received guns from the US government, read/google scandal obama/bush eric holder fast and furious and I don't mean the movie) also hide and fighting each other, rather than only fighting FARC.
But oh wait, that would be against the banksters who laundered (and still) the money for drug cartels.
Has Chilean copper already learned to fly? :)
Does Chile has an airplane industry?
Can Chileans produce airplanes?
All three answers end with an O.
3 Valle Ricardo
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are very mistaken if you think this plane belongs in a museum.
It can be equipped with many of the systems used in fast jets: HUD, non-disclosure of position when aquiring target info, etc. Being a turbine gives it fuel advantages and certainly reliability over true jets.
It can also be equipped with up to date ground to air and air to air defence systems and would make an ideal antidrugs attack plane or recon. It has two 0.50 cal machine guns, albeit with only 200 rds per gun but can take additional pods of 0.50 cal or even 20 mm cannon. Alternatively to the pods it's hard points can take 1,500 kg of whatever ordnance you fancy.
I would love the basic trainer as my own personal aircraft, sadly the financial crash put an end to those plans.
I am not Valle Ricardo, but happy to answer you question, forgetit:
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Copper has not learned to fly yet, though the T-35 Pillán (prop) and A-36 Halcón (turbine) build by ENAER (Empresa Nacional de Aeronáutica de Chile) do fly quite well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXSv0b8A5Zg&feature=related
Has Chilean copper already learned to fly? :)
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does Chile has an airplane industry?
Can Chileans produce airplanes?
All three answers end with an O.
O what a Dick :-)))))
ENAER T-35 Pillán (Spanish pronunciation: [piˈʎan], volcano or ancestral spirit) is a Chilean propeller-driven basic trainer aircraft. The student and the instructor sit in tandem. Production ceased in 1991 after 7 years but restarted briefly in 1998
Dick with a stick in his junta :D,
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get real you moron, all what it produce are components and a bunch of props..how impressive..and I'm not typing they are bad. Even the chileans bought the super tucanos what that hispanic clown valle ricardo forgot.
@ManRod/Sticky
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, I was already aware of the existence of Enaer - it has partnered with Embraer in some ventures, including in the one that produced the R-99, I believe. But see the product the both of you are showing me. It's very charming indeed, but, like the SuperTucano, it looks like it could fit a WW2 museum well, doesn't it? :)
(#) 6 Amigo
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your comment is true / these kinds of planes are more useful and economic than fighter jets and helicopters especially for the rough targets.
Well they do say that nothing is imposable,
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering we sell fridges to the Eskimos.
I don't really know about it's use as a COIN aircraft, I'd imagine that the USAF has more advanced ground-attack aircraft, however it is a very good basic training aircraft. The RAF uses modified Tucanos in that role.
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Possibly they're going to be used after the (unarmed) T-6 Texan II, to train for ground attack work while having a second seat for an instructor.
** Fido
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0according to US Justice Department records ..:
Wachovia Bank ( now owned by Wells Fargo) laundered money
378.3 billions US $ between May 1/2004 ....May 31 / 2007
I thought it was 378.2.
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ah well.
4 Forge TIT 87 (#)
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has Chilean copper already learned to fly? :)
No idea. Another idiotic reply from a Trolo!
6 ChrisR (#)
It just looks old fashioned to me.
fido DILDO
Even the chileans bought the super tucanos what that hispanic clown valle ricardo forgot.
Your such an idiot. How would i know what the chileans did you boludo.
Go back to church and keep praying for CFK.
fidoDILDO and forgeTIT=
Jan 02nd, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's it got to do with chile?
Valle Ricardo=
Agreed. It looks like crap.
livin' in argentina: I asume both (Forgetit and Fido) believed Valle Rircardo is Chilean and tried to counter his mockingly attitude , and as at least Fido has kind of a special “reflex” with Chileans (whatever the traumatic reason might be, trying to find out since a while), this ends up like this.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Tucanos indeed look very old fashioned, though I don't find them ugly or something. And they are surely very useful for their purposes, which fore sure is not conventional wars.
Aah i see. tetchy about chile eh?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Point taken. I know little about aircraft other than what looks good.
#16 You're not in a position to say someone else is an idiot. You're the one who made the faux pas. As many commenters have told, the US forces are basing their choice on variables such as performance and efficiency rather than a queerish desire to appear avant-garde. As you're too superficial for that, I suggest you should go back to more congenial activities instead of commenting on boys' toys. Wait, perhaps Livin' in Argentina will let you comment on his boy toy. He seems to share your tastes.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0TIT
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0It wasn't a faux par your pratt it was a comment on the article. Which I am allowed to do without you Trolo chiming in on MY comment.
What an idiot.
So fucking what? I don't like the plane. who gives a shit? you do though dickhead. Did the Chileans screw you up the arse or something?
@Ricarda
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0How sensitive, did I unadvertedly hit a nerve? The comments section is an open forum, just as you can give your moronic opinions, I can address them the way I want. If you can't stand that, you should go somewhere you'll only meet people who'll lick your butt. #17 looks like he would be into that.
forge tit@
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0ooooh arent we sensitive about brazilian planes and Chileanos?
Valle Ricardo-@ He got bum fucked in one by one. that's why he is so hormonal about it.
What's Chileanos?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0TIT
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0mmmmmm lets think ( if you can) could it be Chileno?
What a moronic reply. I thought Typo's were accepted here but hey..go for it dickhead.
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Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The both of you queer boys pretty much set the tune and the discussion level when you responded with my calm #4 with prissy answers at #16 and #17. But sure Livin', I am the one who's being hormonal. Also, have a look on my comments history before guessing incorrectly where I am from.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's a calm?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0discussion level set by you i think you'll find @4 when you decide to ramp it up with an idiotic retort. read your own posts.
When did I guess where your from?
You are truly thick! I'm sure we will all be waiting with baited breath for your defence of the brazilian Plane. For what reason I don't know.
“What's a calm?”
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0An adjective applied to my post #4 to which you and boyfriend, in your flamboyant rage, reacted so strangely. Some fags take their sassy act to a whole new level, don't they? And you continue to do that. Why's that, don't you like when someone other than 'partner' causes you a pain in the ass?
“When did I guess where your from?”
What, is AIDS eating into your brain and you can't understand your own posts anymore? You pretty much suggested I'm an Argentine at #26, when you said my reaction would be all the worse were you uninformed fags discussing an Argentine product. I've been posting on Mercopress's forums for over a year. Most known where I'm from.
jeez. What is this guy TITs problem? PMT?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0ChrisR explained it was a good aircraft and that was good enough.
Then this pratt jumps in with a lot of nonsence. So what if you or I or anyone else doesn't like the look of it. so what.
Have you not heard the old adage that if it looks good it flys good. Airforces use that a lot. Try telling them that it' “prissy”.
What an idiot.
“ChrisR explained it was a good aircraft and that was good enough.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then this pratt jumps in with a lot of nonsence. So what if you or I or anyone else doesn't like the look of it. so what.”
Agreed - ChrisR's answer was a good one. But read again, half-wit, my answer came before his. I didn't jump after him and I am only engaging you and this weird fellow who came into your defense, b/c you replied back in a not very sensible way. What's the problem with British fags, doesn't their government provide free medication against STDs and this is affecting their reasoning?
No still don't get it. What is a calm? A Calm what? You are correct it is an adjective.Speak English Woman.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0how on earth did I react strange? I posted @17 anyone else think it was a strange reply?
I didn't pretty much suggest you from Argentina forge TIT. Spin it baby yeah!!!
I'll be sure to look up your old boring idiotic post's. Perhaps when I'm boiling an egg and have 3 minutes. No wait...I think the egg will be more interesting.
For a supposed heterosexual male your sure use a lot of gay references don't you? Have you seen American beauty?
Sure, you weren't suggesting anything, you just assume random people will vigorously defend Argentina's aeronautic industry if given the opportunity. And your #17 post was strange in that you jumped out of nowhere to white-knight a male poster with a snarky, flamboyant answer to what was nothing but a very inoffensive one-liner about Chile. Queer much?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boring, all.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0[and, Forgetit, people don't normally use AIDS as the brain-eater when they want to be offensive. Syphilis is the usual example, and you will be in good company: Franz Schubert, Arthur Schopenhauer, Édouard Manet and Adolf Hitler.]
TIT
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is a Calm? Why don't you answer you most eloquent of posts?
I Mentioned Argentina yes. Because If it was an Aircraft built in Argentina then yes many more would be defending. You have a keen mind to spot that!
My post #17 was strange because a came out of nowhere eh? OK Mate. perhaps I just logged on and saw it at that particular moment did you ever think of that? Some of us have a life you know and are not glued to the PC looking for conspiracy's.
I wanted to know why Chile was bought into it by DILDO .
Quite a reasonable question given the subject matter. If you think that is flamboyant then you need to look in your wardrobe old man.
geofward2 Quite right. He played along for a while though didn't he?
But we did find out he has a “thing” for Homosexuals and an insecurity complex.
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Jan 03rd, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the whole thing is hilarious ... Question: Does Embraer provide commercial planes to the US?
Yes, Artillero, in fact the US is Embraer's main market. Last year (or was it 2010?) Embraer opened its first plant on US soil to build Phenom jets and stay closer to its main clients.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I saw that in many of the American Airlines planes. Is that why they have mechanical problems all the time ?? :-))))) (it was a joke, don't kill me yet)
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#37. it is isn't it?LOL
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#TIT aka Col. Frank Fitts USMC (American beauty)
Since you picked up on a typo in the fist place i don't see how you can get so anal about your your own. You actually defended it my telling us all it was an adjective...very clever. But you never said it was an error. Thanks for playing!
My Spanish skills are fine Trolo. Still learning...are you. T..Y...P...O... do you understand? is anybody in there?
In answer to the rest of your incoherent drivel...No.
my my you sure think your important don't you? Yes you got it.. I was addressing it solely to you so you could feel useful again..there...do you feel wanted now?
I car not where your from. Glad you have time on your hands to try and guess mine...LOL
#38 WOW....TIT....5 minutes on Wikipedia and your an expert. You almost sound like you know what your talking about.
Chau!
Like most other aircraft makers', much of Embraer's components aren't domestically made but produced by risk-sharing partner companies across the world. If there are mechanical flaws in airplanes, the Koreans or the French may very be to blame for them.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Airline has obviously financial problems. it took 3 different airplanes to get to Buenos Aires from Dallas. What a disaster !
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Lyin'
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Show me your Spanish skills. Translate these paragraphs for me.
“UK manufacturers have worst quarter since 2009 recession
”Manufacturers ended 2011 with their worst quarter since Britain was in the grip of recession (...)
”The closely watched Markit Purchasing Managers Index survey, (...) showed a reading of 49.6 last month (...) below the 50 mark which signals expansion.“
Go there, don't think overusing ”boludo“ or ”trolo” is an overwhelming proof of your proficiency.
And yeah, batty boy, I intended to use 'calm' as an adjective to #4 (as in calm post #4), but I (prematurely?) recognized the 'mistake' after a native Anglophone persisted in rebutting it. I don't pretend that my English competes with that of a native, so I'm ready to accept corrections from people who are supposed to have better skills than me. But wait...are you admiting that I indeed could have used “calm” as an adjective? So why were you persisting in presenting it as a mistake? B/c you feel the need to spin words, mine or your own, in order to not admit faux pas? Why are you so insecure? This is internet, what you say on some discussion is of no consequence to your life and nobody cares about that. Don't be so insecure.
Wait...
I went back to your post #26 to confirm that you were really addressing me. Post isn't there anymore. No wonder you so comfortable at lying about your words.
“I car”
“Glad you have time on your hands to try and guess mine...LOL”
Couldn't care less where you're from. Native Anglophones, British or otherwise, are notoriously incompetent in learning a foreign language. Just go talk to yankeeboy. And if you aren't a Native English-speaker - I couldn't care less about getting that wrong.
“#5 minutes on Wikipedia and your an expert.”
Discuss Embraer with me, and you're be left hurting more than at the night you met Ricardo.
@Artillero
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you work for AA? Have they closed operations yet?
@44 No I don't. When I came back from BA in November, I saw the announcement on TV about Bankruptcy. I knew something bad was going on, too many cancellations, mechanical problems, etc .
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 USMC (American beauty) Hurrah !! Although a very fine Institution , nothing better than the Rangers and Green Berets .... WHOA !!!!
You live(d) in Texas, right? What did/do you in there? I was pretty sure you worked for an airline company, I just was not sure which one.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still live in Texas and I work in Healthcare Management.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for a gay TIT
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will say it again. My spanish skills are fine. I dont need to prove it to you or anyone else on this site. Why? Because it is in English you stupid moron.
Did I ever say I was an expert in Spanish...er...no! again what a Pr#ck.
So you meant to say the adjective “Calm” in your post. Ok. I'll say again what is a Calm then. What the F#ck are you trying to say Trolo? I was trying to help you out and give you the benefit of the doubt that it was a typo by hey..if you admit it then who am I to argue....Calm it is then. more incoherent nonsence from a has been.
what fax pas? you still going on about a typo? SAD.
funny how you spin the typo when you want though eh. Pot and kettle dimwit.
“Discuss Embraer with me, and you're be left hurting more than at the night you met Ricardo.” Jesus Christ what have they diagnosed you with? you need to keep taking the meds. It is becoming funnier reading your ramblings.
I bet listening to you on a Friday night goeas REEEAAAALLLYYYY quick.
How interesting! ............yawn
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Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for gay tit
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK then you meant to write it and it's not a typo.
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”The both of you queer boys pretty much set the tune and the discussion level when you responded with my calm #4 with prissy answers at #16 and #17.
my Calm #4.......what gibberish?
Speaka da ingliish dimwit. This is not a sentence that would be understood by a native English speaker. Perhaps in Africa somewhere?
OMG your still going on aren't you? OK I can see you hurt that you mat come across as argentine. Your not then OK?
You really are hilarious. I actually don't need too write very much as your doing the hard work for me.
Talk to me about the Embraer Super Tucano aircraft. I love it when talk about Aircraft....really gets me going...........going............gone. yaaaawwwwnnnnn!
What's the matter with your post? “Your not OK?” What? Why so obstruse. I see that no matter how much you sound self-superior with those effete rants, you can't disguise the fact that you're losing cool, Lyin'. Apart from an extra “with” in the post you quoted, there's really nothing that isn't understandable about my post, so much so that you did reply to it, didn't you? And what if it wasn't really understandable? English isn't my mother tongue and thus it doesn't of necessity reflect badly on me the fact that I'm bound to make mistakes. Now, you live in Argentina and can't even write...“Chilenos.” And you refuse to translante some simple sentences that anyone with a basic command over the Spanish language could tranlaste to English. Just admit you can't really produce a meaningful sentence in Spanish. That's OK. You can't really do anything. Your sole rhetorical tool is those flamboyant, catty flourishes typical of prissy men and the divas they worship. Just another pitiful buffoon trying to prove herself over the internet.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yes, I'm will still be going on...as much as you are.
Who is the TIT?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you understand his post? What a load of crap. Full of self important declarations. Fom a tired old man.
for gay tit
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have proven to every one you limitations and you hang ups. I have a life so I am not wasting anymore time on you. You are an idiot and as such i will lose any argument with you as you will not comprehend a thing. It was amusing to to get your blood pressure up though. Something i'm sure the doctor will need to speak to you about.
Idiots will always want the last word so take the stand old boy.
chau
Great, now Lyin' has a companion who'll fulfill his validation needs. Now leave me alone, you creep.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 054 Forgetit87 (#)
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You walked stright into that one!
Come on guys ! give it a rest :-)
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Poster who's apparently just signed up to tell me that
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It wasn't me who felt the need to chase that...person on other threads, was it? It was he who did that, so in spite of his self-superior rants, it was he who was in need to discharge his pent-up anger. You go advise him.
are you talking to me?
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jan 03rd, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so let me guess Ricardo, you are not from Chile ?
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Jan 04th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bolivia? :-)
Jan 04th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hehe. We could keep this up for ages but I will tell you that I am Argentine.
Jan 04th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this seems to be a private affair
Jan 04th, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0carry on.
@64 lol!! Not at all, I'm trying to make a point my dear Briton.
Jan 04th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 so Ricardito, what is your problem with our Brazilian brother Forgetit87??
ok thanks
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Jan 05th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0filho cosas de la vida, Podemos Estar de acuerdo o não pero el Ataque pessoal, não Tolero lo
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Jan 05th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Calm down gentlemen, it’s only a couple of planes,
Jan 05th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slow enough to observe and take pictures, guide and pass back info, perhaps the Americans prefer these to what they have,, for the job, I do believe the British have some of these [I could be wrong]
But perhaps surprised that the Americans and others have not used those unmanned drones,
Just a thought.
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Long Live Elton John
Jan 05th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live Scotland -- Long Live Republic
long live clowns
Jan 05th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for without no circuses could operate,
long live xxela , mrs greens cousin
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