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this seems to be one deluded man, that even argentina does not want to be seen with,
one wonders why,
or is it, this man deals in [lead] and not [plastic ]
just a thought .
He's isolated 'cause he's a threat to the military leverage the West wants to retain over the rest of the world. Apart from another member of the bankrupt Westen&Allies club, most other nations in the world would be facing the same diplomatic problems as Iran is. See that, even though it is most probable that Iran's aim is to attain the so-called nuclear breakout status, nothing has ever been done to Japan though it has developed that same capability many years ago.
No, briton, Japan has no nuclear weapons. But it has achieved the so-called nuclear breakout status - the ability to build nuclear weapons in a very short amount of time if needed. So far, neither the IAEA nor US intelligence agencies have managed to prove that Iran's nuclear program aims to build actual weapons - it's believed instead that Iran just aims to achieve nuclear breakout capability.
This is what a American official said in a recent US Senate hearing:
We continue to assess Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons in part by developing various nuclear capabilities that better position it to produce such weapons, should it choose to do so. We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.
In other words, it's likely that Iran aims to achieve the same capabilites that Japan uncontroversially developed many years ago.
10 Forgetit87
But Argentina enriches to less tha 20% for the radioisotope programme or are you telling me that is not the case?
None of the other countries have threatened to 'kill all the Jews' have they?
Also, Iran, the Islamist terrorist backers that they are, also seek the death of all the infidels (none believers in Islam). Well, I don't know what your beliefs are but I am an atheist so I am definately in the frame.
That being the case I think the sooner they are bombed back into the stone age where they belong the better.
1 - Tell me, what are those Islamic terrorists Iran supports? I know of none. Hezbollah and Hamas are resistence movements born out of Israeli expansionism and occupation of other nations' territories. And apart from Israel and other countries known for their anti-Arab biases in foreign policy - the US, Australia and Canada - there are few countries who consider them terrorists. Wanna talk about terrorism? See the ongoing assassination of scientists and destruction of infrastructure quietly perpetrated in Iran by the US and Israel. Had Iran done a thing in this sense, that'd be considered a justification for war against that country.
2 - Iran has a large and old Jewish community, and it's perhaps the only Muslim country where native Jews actively participate in national politics. Google Iranian Jews' reaction to a Zionist invitation to move to Israel. Iran has never threatened to eliminate all Jews, and as I wrote on another thread: ”[Ahmadinejad's] supposed threat against Israel has been widely contested on the grounds that (...) those words came from a flawed translation that is now abused for propaganda purposes. Iran doesn't have the power to terminate Israel - any country in the world that tried to do that would be facing national suicide on account of Israel's vast dissuasive arsenal. Wanna talk about nuclear genocide? Let's discuss this quote by Israeli scholar Martin van Creveld: We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. (...) We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.
3 - I think the sooner they are bombed back into the stone age where they belong the better.”
Good to see the pathetic mask of Western moral self-superiority falling off.
4 - I'm an atheist too, but I don't see how that'd dispose against a bullied country.
Oh, just one more thing: if you think Iran's uranium enrichment levels aren't conclusive proof it is producing weapons. Otherwise don't you think the IAEA, US intelligence agencies and many foreign policy analysts would have concluded that for sure long ago?
Hezbullah is an organization not like known as told by at the media.
The Hezbullah was settled by English while the fragmentation of India/Pakistan who had a leader named Mohammad Ali Cinnah (Pakistan)..in the mean time they have settled into the Middle East..
in the reality they are not shia originated organization and active
in the Iran's crossborder countries Turkey/Pakistan now to control Iran,
who are supported,protected,tooled,manipulated by American/British intelligence services..also has some IRA ,South American connections.
Hamas is a unrealist but mediatic organization which tells some messages..
You must understand that all the messages you heard and see on media
could be distraction tools....!!
BUT
some other secret services have penetrated to Hezbullah and locked at some action areas...and hadn't run efficiently at 90 th years on
for this reason why US & her servant UK and others made double operations into Afghanistan/Iraq to renew their intelligence and
these kinds of organizations on...
now the US troops withdrawn from Iraq not from Afghanistan yet
means that they made some renewings especially on Iraq....
and again, they will be devastated by penetrating them..
and again can the US make similair operations .? not possible with this collapsed Economy...
in other words that let their Economy finish to not operate there and/or
any other place of the world...
finally if i have a global power why do i insist on you as the old kinds of powers....... just a simple.....!!
So, Hamas are the good guys after all.
The videos of their attrocities over the years should be ignored.
The 'Old Jews' might be lucky, they might not: but I most certainly would not want to put my future in the hands of the Islamist nut-cases presently in charge.
Good to see the pathetic mask of Western moral self-superiority falling off.
Glad you can finally see things my way.
The Iranians I know in the UK are very sad about their country being highjacked by these crackpots, but given the abysmal level of education in the masses, it is hardly suprising.
It will come to a shooting war, of that I am convinced and it needs to be now to stop these islamists once and for all before they get any more modern weapons.
the US just equipped Israel & S.Arabia by four nuclear submarines
each has 2.5 billions US $ Virginia class ( General Dynamics) certainly run/likely usable by US experts not Jews &Arabs....
14 geo (#
You definitely round the twist .
Forgetit87
To be fair, anyone who blows up woman and children babies and unarmed civilians,
No matter who they claim to be or fighting for, has to be nothing other that terrorist,
And this in a was is a polite way of saying cowardly murderers, [would it not]
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As for IRAN, this is interesting , you see Argentina has never been threatened to any extent as to be either invaded , bombed , slaughtered , in retrospect, taking into account of the terrorists, attack in Argentina [once] some years ago,
Israel and the UK and others, list to long, have either been bombed to slaughter,
Attacked every other day, invaded, threatened, but in this case, the Iranian leader did state if Iran got nuclear weapons they [or he] would blow Israel of the earth,. Given the violent activity and reputation of Iran, and others, Israel is not taking this lightly, or is she going to wait to find out,
True or false///right or wrong, Israel may well hit Iran first, the consequences would lead to an all out Arab war, [would not this be true]
The Americans perhaps believe in part, that if anyone is going to do it, then it should be them,
[Why] well ask Obama that one, or someone with more knowledge,,
All im saying is, why wait to see if its true, when you have the power to hit first,
Would Chile for example if equipped wait until Argentina whacked them [if threatened]
Or hit back first, just an opinion, in part
.
If you want a list of bombs and atrocities from terrorists, then you find them your self,
Your reply is insinuating that we are all deluded, and their is no such thing as terrorists bombes,
Now either im lying, or your totally of your rocker,
We can just imaging you at the table,
You might like to think you are high minded but regrettably your posts are unintelligible. I for one just cannot understand what you are trying to say.
It's a resistence movement - it fights for what it believes to be its people's interests; it is neither good nor evil.
2 - The videos of their attrocities over the years should be ignored.
Such as?
I can post videos showing atrocities being perpetrated by any military force in the world, including the IDF, of which only an idiot would believe that it's the most moral army in the world.
3 - The 'Old Jews' might be lucky, they might not: but I most certainly would not want to put my future in the hands of the Islamist nut-cases presently in charge.
What you would or wouldn't want is irrelevant. You don't know about Iranian Jews' lives more than they themselves do.
4 - The Iranians I know in the UK are very sad about their country being highjacked by these crackpots, but given the abysmal level of education in the masses, it is hardly suprising.
Expats are always doing propaganda against their own country and sometimes even pushing their adopted country in a collision course against their birth country. See the infamous Cuban expats in the US.
5 - It will come to a shooting war, of that I am convinced and it needs to be now to stop these islamists once and for all before they get any more modern weapons.
Myself, I want Iran to get those nukes already and put an end to US and Western bullying. I'm gonna quote that same Israeli scholar, Martin van Creveld, on Iran's reasoning to pursue nukes:
Wherever U.S forces go, nuclear weapons go with them or can be made to follow in short order. The world has witnessed how the United States attacked Iraq for, as it turned out, no reason at all. Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy.
Iran's nuclear program is about national security and survival.
Not the best or resolutions is it,
To be fair, if America hit Iran,
The world may well not only have a different opinion, [whatever that may be]
They may well find themselves sitting on the fence, or taking sides,
Iran is the 2nd biggest [if im correct] after Saudi Arabia,
Together the EU buys as much as china,
So if the eurolanders lose out, and china doubles its buying power, ,then what ?
Right or wrong,
The world might very well be approaching a new era
On the other hand, nothing may happen,
Depends what you belive in .
.
Iran's nuclear program is about national security and survival
No it is not, it's about getting rid of Israel, all of Israel and all of the Jews, then all of the rest of us unless we convert to Islam. These nutters are hell-bent on having an Islamic WORLD (which includes LatAm).
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Jan 09th, 2012 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0So it's one Nutter talking with another Psychotic Bastard.
Jan 09th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bit difficult to tell which one is which - they are probably interchangeable anyway.
this seems to be one deluded man, that even argentina does not want to be seen with,
Jan 09th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one wonders why,
or is it, this man deals in [lead] and not [plastic ]
just a thought .
He's isolated 'cause he's a threat to the military leverage the West wants to retain over the rest of the world. Apart from another member of the bankrupt Westen&Allies club, most other nations in the world would be facing the same diplomatic problems as Iran is. See that, even though it is most probable that Iran's aim is to attain the so-called nuclear breakout status, nothing has ever been done to Japan though it has developed that same capability many years ago.
Jan 09th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as far as i know, japan does not have nuclear weapons,
Jan 09th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if im wrong, someone will tell me .
No, briton, Japan has no nuclear weapons. But it has achieved the so-called nuclear breakout status - the ability to build nuclear weapons in a very short amount of time if needed. So far, neither the IAEA nor US intelligence agencies have managed to prove that Iran's nuclear program aims to build actual weapons - it's believed instead that Iran just aims to achieve nuclear breakout capability.
Jan 09th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is what a American official said in a recent US Senate hearing:
We continue to assess Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons in part by developing various nuclear capabilities that better position it to produce such weapons, should it choose to do so. We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.
In other words, it's likely that Iran aims to achieve the same capabilites that Japan uncontroversially developed many years ago.
well history may or may not prove [who] wrong,
Jan 09th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but someone had better be right,
the middle east, will be riding on this one .
6 Forgetit87
Jan 10th, 2012 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Proof: Iran claims to be enriching uranium. Only one reason why, isn't there?
The ugly guy touring Latin America when his country is breaking apart.
Jan 10th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Iran claims to be enriching uranium. Only one reason why, isn't there?
Jan 10th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Um, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, all enrich uranium.
10 Forgetit87
Jan 10th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Argentina enriches to less tha 20% for the radioisotope programme or are you telling me that is not the case?
None of the other countries have threatened to 'kill all the Jews' have they?
Also, Iran, the Islamist terrorist backers that they are, also seek the death of all the infidels (none believers in Islam). Well, I don't know what your beliefs are but I am an atheist so I am definately in the frame.
That being the case I think the sooner they are bombed back into the stone age where they belong the better.
1 - Tell me, what are those Islamic terrorists Iran supports? I know of none. Hezbollah and Hamas are resistence movements born out of Israeli expansionism and occupation of other nations' territories. And apart from Israel and other countries known for their anti-Arab biases in foreign policy - the US, Australia and Canada - there are few countries who consider them terrorists. Wanna talk about terrorism? See the ongoing assassination of scientists and destruction of infrastructure quietly perpetrated in Iran by the US and Israel. Had Iran done a thing in this sense, that'd be considered a justification for war against that country.
Jan 10th, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 - Iran has a large and old Jewish community, and it's perhaps the only Muslim country where native Jews actively participate in national politics. Google Iranian Jews' reaction to a Zionist invitation to move to Israel. Iran has never threatened to eliminate all Jews, and as I wrote on another thread: ”[Ahmadinejad's] supposed threat against Israel has been widely contested on the grounds that (...) those words came from a flawed translation that is now abused for propaganda purposes. Iran doesn't have the power to terminate Israel - any country in the world that tried to do that would be facing national suicide on account of Israel's vast dissuasive arsenal. Wanna talk about nuclear genocide? Let's discuss this quote by Israeli scholar Martin van Creveld: We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. (...) We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.
3 - I think the sooner they are bombed back into the stone age where they belong the better.”
Good to see the pathetic mask of Western moral self-superiority falling off.
4 - I'm an atheist too, but I don't see how that'd dispose against a bullied country.
Oh, just one more thing: if you think Iran's uranium enrichment levels aren't conclusive proof it is producing weapons. Otherwise don't you think the IAEA, US intelligence agencies and many foreign policy analysts would have concluded that for sure long ago?
Jan 10th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0** Forget
Jan 10th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hezbullah is an organization not like known as told by at the media.
The Hezbullah was settled by English while the fragmentation of India/Pakistan who had a leader named Mohammad Ali Cinnah (Pakistan)..in the mean time they have settled into the Middle East..
in the reality they are not shia originated organization and active
in the Iran's crossborder countries Turkey/Pakistan now to control Iran,
who are supported,protected,tooled,manipulated by American/British intelligence services..also has some IRA ,South American connections.
Hamas is a unrealist but mediatic organization which tells some messages..
You must understand that all the messages you heard and see on media
could be distraction tools....!!
BUT
Jan 10th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some other secret services have penetrated to Hezbullah and locked at some action areas...and hadn't run efficiently at 90 th years on
for this reason why US & her servant UK and others made double operations into Afghanistan/Iraq to renew their intelligence and
these kinds of organizations on...
now the US troops withdrawn from Iraq not from Afghanistan yet
means that they made some renewings especially on Iraq....
and again, they will be devastated by penetrating them..
and again can the US make similair operations .? not possible with this collapsed Economy...
in other words that let their Economy finish to not operate there and/or
any other place of the world...
finally if i have a global power why do i insist on you as the old kinds of powers....... just a simple.....!!
The Forgetit twins-
Jan 10th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, Hamas are the good guys after all.
The videos of their attrocities over the years should be ignored.
The 'Old Jews' might be lucky, they might not: but I most certainly would not want to put my future in the hands of the Islamist nut-cases presently in charge.
Good to see the pathetic mask of Western moral self-superiority falling off.
Glad you can finally see things my way.
The Iranians I know in the UK are very sad about their country being highjacked by these crackpots, but given the abysmal level of education in the masses, it is hardly suprising.
It will come to a shooting war, of that I am convinced and it needs to be now to stop these islamists once and for all before they get any more modern weapons.
** 16 crises
Jan 10th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are sleeping away..
the US just equipped Israel & S.Arabia by four nuclear submarines
each has 2.5 billions US $ Virginia class ( General Dynamics) certainly run/likely usable by US experts not Jews &Arabs....
come to real world.....
14 geo (#
Jan 10th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You definitely round the twist .
Forgetit87
To be fair, anyone who blows up woman and children babies and unarmed civilians,
No matter who they claim to be or fighting for, has to be nothing other that terrorist,
And this in a was is a polite way of saying cowardly murderers, [would it not]
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
As for IRAN, this is interesting , you see Argentina has never been threatened to any extent as to be either invaded , bombed , slaughtered , in retrospect, taking into account of the terrorists, attack in Argentina [once] some years ago,
Israel and the UK and others, list to long, have either been bombed to slaughter,
Attacked every other day, invaded, threatened, but in this case, the Iranian leader did state if Iran got nuclear weapons they [or he] would blow Israel of the earth,. Given the violent activity and reputation of Iran, and others, Israel is not taking this lightly, or is she going to wait to find out,
True or false///right or wrong, Israel may well hit Iran first, the consequences would lead to an all out Arab war, [would not this be true]
The Americans perhaps believe in part, that if anyone is going to do it, then it should be them,
[Why] well ask Obama that one, or someone with more knowledge,,
All im saying is, why wait to see if its true, when you have the power to hit first,
Would Chile for example if equipped wait until Argentina whacked them [if threatened]
Or hit back first, just an opinion, in part
.
** 18 brit
Jan 10th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your comment as like media written before to appeal for the ordinary people.....we try to make high level comments not on media level....
please list some terror actions and prove that are made by whom ...!!
If you want a list of bombs and atrocities from terrorists, then you find them your self,
Jan 10th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your reply is insinuating that we are all deluded, and their is no such thing as terrorists bombes,
Now either im lying, or your totally of your rocker,
We can just imaging you at the table,
19 Geo
Jan 11th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0You might like to think you are high minded but regrettably your posts are unintelligible. I for one just cannot understand what you are trying to say.
1 - So, Hamas are the good guys after all.
Jan 11th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a resistence movement - it fights for what it believes to be its people's interests; it is neither good nor evil.
2 - The videos of their attrocities over the years should be ignored.
Such as?
I can post videos showing atrocities being perpetrated by any military force in the world, including the IDF, of which only an idiot would believe that it's the most moral army in the world.
3 - The 'Old Jews' might be lucky, they might not: but I most certainly would not want to put my future in the hands of the Islamist nut-cases presently in charge.
What you would or wouldn't want is irrelevant. You don't know about Iranian Jews' lives more than they themselves do.
4 - The Iranians I know in the UK are very sad about their country being highjacked by these crackpots, but given the abysmal level of education in the masses, it is hardly suprising.
Expats are always doing propaganda against their own country and sometimes even pushing their adopted country in a collision course against their birth country. See the infamous Cuban expats in the US.
5 - It will come to a shooting war, of that I am convinced and it needs to be now to stop these islamists once and for all before they get any more modern weapons.
Myself, I want Iran to get those nukes already and put an end to US and Western bullying. I'm gonna quote that same Israeli scholar, Martin van Creveld, on Iran's reasoning to pursue nukes:
Wherever U.S forces go, nuclear weapons go with them or can be made to follow in short order. The world has witnessed how the United States attacked Iraq for, as it turned out, no reason at all. Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy.
Iran's nuclear program is about national security and survival.
Not the best or resolutions is it,
Jan 11th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair, if America hit Iran,
The world may well not only have a different opinion, [whatever that may be]
They may well find themselves sitting on the fence, or taking sides,
Iran is the 2nd biggest [if im correct] after Saudi Arabia,
Together the EU buys as much as china,
So if the eurolanders lose out, and china doubles its buying power, ,then what ?
Right or wrong,
The world might very well be approaching a new era
On the other hand, nothing may happen,
Depends what you belive in .
.
Iran's nuclear program is about national security and survival
Jan 11th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No it is not, it's about getting rid of Israel, all of Israel and all of the Jews, then all of the rest of us unless we convert to Islam. These nutters are hell-bent on having an Islamic WORLD (which includes LatAm).
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