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Argentina prepares list of capital goods subject to higher import tariffs

Wednesday, January 18th 2012 - 17:02 UTC
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The Argentine government has began a round of consultations with the manufacturing sector to determine which capital goods from non Mercosur members can be listed for a higher common external tariff as was recently agreed by the trade block. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    ”We’re working with all manufacturing sectors to boost the competitiveness of our industry; Argentina must have a sustainable industry of capital goods and world class inputs”, said Minister Giorgi.

    Another stupid minister of CFK. How can you 'boost the competitiveness of our industry' by imposing protectionist tarrifs?

    All that will do is make the companies getting the money LESS competitive in the international market by padding the workforce, unions insisting on getting a slice for 'their' workers which will raise the costs of the goods, etc. etc.

    Bet she doesn't put anything on padded shouldered dresses to keep her 'power look'.

    Dumbo.

    Jan 18th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    The dumbo I suggest Christy is you and the European simpletons who have allowed China take over the manufacturing world whilst allowing its currency be artificially weak.This is one of the reasons so many English industries have disapeaeared.Giorgi is absolutely right Argentina must first maintain its industry and then ensure its competitiveness against FAIR trade

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    ring fencing industry , cant wait for the argies to knock out their version of the trabant.. :))

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    2 O gaga
    And HOW, may I ask, with all the fiscal drag in the monetary system caused by these import tariffs and the subsidization of the manufacturing industries (because that is what it really is) can the ordinary person afford these products?

    And, why have you changed your position regarding the direct subsidies to the phone companies set up in Patagonia? You were correct that time, you are wrong this time. You cannot have it both ways.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    3 In 2011 With over 860,000 Vws,Fiats,Renaults,Citroen,Peugeot,Fords,GM cars sold I dont think we need worry about that nightengale.If I were you Iwould worry more about the 2,7 million unemployed in your country rising at over 100,000 a monthly.
    4 Christy if you read the article minister Giorgi is referring to goods from outside Mercosur.If you are so interested in free trade please lobby Davidito and Brussels to allow free trade in all agricultural goods before you lecture CFK

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    @5 and mainly going to brazil... but as your little trade dispute heats up then that might all change...

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    5 O gara

    Sometimes, I think you have genuine comments to make and understand the financial implications of what CFK is doing and how it will affect the economy as a whole and then you fail at the last hurdle.

    Of course I understand it is goods from outside Mercosur BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER!

    The extra costs will still be there! Perhaps Argentina makes everything that her people want but if that is the case why the imports?

    If you have ever bothered to look at the UK's position it has consistently called for the CAP scheme to be abandoned: all it does is to protect the French peasant farmers with their smallholdings. No-one can overcome the Franco-German pact and that is at the root cause of many of the injustices within the EU.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    7 Chris R

    You are right there will be an extra cost but the benefits of maintaining key industries and employment are paramount.The possible inefficencies are a worry without doubt but do you suggest the deindustrialization of the country because China has cheap labour on grand scale and an undervalued currency.Here I side with Argentina and Brasil who is adopting a similar policy.
    There is a huge effort at regional development in South America and without doubt Argentina is causing some dificulty with Morenos antics.Nevertheless Brasil quietly recognizes the unique dificulty Argentina has in its row with the IMF and ratings agencies.When the agreement with the Paris club is made and pressure is taken off the balance of payments then Argentina will have to take Moreno off the case.
    I hardly agree about French peasants to be fair.France has developed a society with far greater equality than anything in the Anglo saxon european countries and I have to respect its position in protecting its weaker people.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    What I don't understand is why RGs don't see the pattern? They have done all of this before, it started with Peron and then every other time the economy started to falter. Inflation gets out of control, they close their borders to imports, devalue their currency and in a little while the economy crashes, it is horrible for 10 years then it starts to rise again. Problem is this time there is no one to bail them out and I think the USA wants to teach them a lesson. Time will tell but it is coming to a head shortly.

    The definition of insanity is to doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I can't believe the whole country is insane though.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    8 O gaga

    A very lucid reply up to the point of protecting its peasants. The rest of Europe is paying for its peasants smallholdings ( and that is what they are called in France) NOT France.

    BTW I think 9 Yankeeboy may have hit the nail on the head.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    9 wrong
    CFK s current policy is only a short term move because she doesnt want to borrow any money.Why because she wants to deal with the Paris club and IMF on argentinas terms.
    The industrialization of Argentina in 2011 is way ahead of anything in the past and growth figures whether you like it or not are excellent.
    10 I accept France is clever at the expense of others but thats hardly their fault

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    CFK CAN”T borrow any money outside of the country and you are VERY mistaken on the growth figures compared to what was achieved % wise just before all of the other crashes. Don't you know your own history?

    Argentina has serious problems and until someone with a little brains recognizes that you are on a road to a crash sometime very soon. This drought my be the straw that break their back. Soy is waaay down compared to last year and you'll have a much smaller crop. Arg was already U$ 12BILLION short in funding BEFORE the drought. It's just a matter of time now.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    This would all be good if balance of trade isn't an issue.Why would anything get made in some countries if it was cheaper to make in other countries.
    It's all very simplistic this old theory of free trade,but it is not the answer,just as protectionism is of limited use,but to dismiss it as a dogma,is stupid unless you are in a strong position.
    Buy British was a slogan in the past,and was of limited value,but it had a value.Of course you can borrow to get the benefit of scale to compete,but that is why the “developed world” is were we are at.And the USA &Uk are there as well and want SA to help get them out.
    Come into the real world not the world of confidence tricksters.You're exposed

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ 13 The 'Buy British' or 'I'm backing Britian' theme was short lived and a bit of a disaster back in the 70's or early 80's. It didn't help that the slogan t-shirts were actually made in Portugal! We live and learn and soon realised the foolishness of the stance.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    11 or 13, Can you give me one historical example of a country that has limited trade and depreciated their currency that led directly to that country's long term prosperity? Just one and anytime in the last 2000 yrs will be fine. I will wait for your informative response.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    China today

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Usa

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    USA doesn't limit trade in fact we are still the #1 foreign trade ... China is not long term in fact they're bubble is bursting as we post...try again.

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You have in the past,as has England,France,Nederland,Spain,Portugal and you also bought slaves as did the previously mentioned countries.You did say a number years.You should be more careful and not get over confident.USA is still the number one but it's methods at not to be anything to boast about.
    Do you remember the Wall street crash and how your country addressed that period 18#

    Jan 19th, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    19. You are so stupid it is embarrassing... try writing in English next time

    Jan 20th, 2012 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Don't get offensive.Your confidence is very fragile.Are you getting ashamed of the country you live in?They do have a deep financial crisis but it won't be your fault.It will be all the Indios you have let in to do your real work.

    Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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