French Defence minister Gerard Longuet said that following on the deal to sell 126 Dassault Rafale fighter jets to India, Paris is hopeful it can seal a similar contract with Brazil. Read full article
Indeed, our licitation have almost the same range, something about 120 fighters, 36 is just the begining, once Embraer is able to produce ir full scale we will change the whole fleet. Anyway, the air force, i mean, Embraer. has chosen the gripen, our pilots,the Super hornet and the government the rafale. Any of the competitors would be able to fulfil theirs role. Hope this contest is over soon, our old and modernized f5 tiger will be discomissioned by 2016.
greetings
Rafale's are great jets. I fail to see why it's taken them so long to get a export deal to be honest.
It is simply not what one is better. They are different. While both are able to multirole both excel at different jobs. The Rafale is a better air to ground bomber than the EF(The EU air to ground capabilitys were added in after by the RAF) while the EF was designed as an Air superiority fighter and has superior engine system, thrust, vector control and Supercruise. The Rafale can be launched off carriers, has a longer range and can fit more bombs.
It is easy to see why India has gone for these jets and i thought they would for a while now. It makes perfect sense for a navy that plans to have two aircraft carriers for a jet that can fit literally all it's roles(Both ground and naval) without having to buy the f-35 from the US.
In a straight up fight though, the EF would win in a 1v1 situation. Simply due to it's radar beng longer range.
Sometimes i forgot how mega-ultra-motherfucker-terminator-developed is the weapons that UK use... Calm down people, much less.
Rafale is still upgrading every year, the thales radar is one of the best that we have in the market, and no, im not so sure if the Rafale would lose, i mean, are you talking about dog-fight or only bvr missiles?
No way you could make that statement without specific support, just guessing , because your country uses this or that equipment.
I must agree with your comment. The Dassault Rafale is nowhere near as advanced as the Eurofighter Typhoon. I can see why emerging developing nations such as Brazil and India would be interested in them - they are a slightly cheaper option than the real thing. The Joint Strike Fighter - Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II - to be used by both the US and the UK looks even better :)
No way you could make that statement without specific support, just guessing , because your country uses this or that equipment.
I made clear and decent arguments for both jets i don't get your post at all. Infact your post shows little understanding of jet combat entirely.
Rafale is still upgrading every year,
What jet isn't.
im not so sure if the Rafale would lose, i mean, are you talking about dog-fight or only bvr missiles?
Dog fights between modern jets is unheard of in the modern age. BVR is where it's at - Fact. The EF has a longer range and a far superior BVR tools at it's disposal.
Latin American governments except for Argentina are wasting their resources in their arms race, from Mexico to Peru, Chile, Brazil, even countries like Ecuador and Bolivia are buying equipment. Of course Colombia. Thank goodness Argentina has not joined them, we are past thinking tanks and planes make us better.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIndeed, our licitation have almost the same range, something about 120 fighters, 36 is just the begining, once Embraer is able to produce ir full scale we will change the whole fleet. Anyway, the air force, i mean, Embraer. has chosen the gripen, our pilots,the Super hornet and the government the rafale. Any of the competitors would be able to fulfil theirs role. Hope this contest is over soon, our old and modernized f5 tiger will be discomissioned by 2016.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0greetings
I'm sure they'll be fine as long as they don't fight any wars with nations equipped with Eurofighters or the new generation of American kit.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rafale's are great jets. I fail to see why it's taken them so long to get a export deal to be honest.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is simply not what one is better. They are different. While both are able to multirole both excel at different jobs. The Rafale is a better air to ground bomber than the EF(The EU air to ground capabilitys were added in after by the RAF) while the EF was designed as an Air superiority fighter and has superior engine system, thrust, vector control and Supercruise. The Rafale can be launched off carriers, has a longer range and can fit more bombs.
It is easy to see why India has gone for these jets and i thought they would for a while now. It makes perfect sense for a navy that plans to have two aircraft carriers for a jet that can fit literally all it's roles(Both ground and naval) without having to buy the f-35 from the US.
In a straight up fight though, the EF would win in a 1v1 situation. Simply due to it's radar beng longer range.
Sometimes i forgot how mega-ultra-motherfucker-terminator-developed is the weapons that UK use... Calm down people, much less.
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rafale is still upgrading every year, the thales radar is one of the best that we have in the market, and no, im not so sure if the Rafale would lose, i mean, are you talking about dog-fight or only bvr missiles?
No way you could make that statement without specific support, just guessing , because your country uses this or that equipment.
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Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must agree with your comment. The Dassault Rafale is nowhere near as advanced as the Eurofighter Typhoon. I can see why emerging developing nations such as Brazil and India would be interested in them - they are a slightly cheaper option than the real thing. The Joint Strike Fighter - Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II - to be used by both the US and the UK looks even better :)
No way you could make that statement without specific support, just guessing , because your country uses this or that equipment.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I made clear and decent arguments for both jets i don't get your post at all. Infact your post shows little understanding of jet combat entirely.
Rafale is still upgrading every year,
What jet isn't.
im not so sure if the Rafale would lose, i mean, are you talking about dog-fight or only bvr missiles?
Dog fights between modern jets is unheard of in the modern age. BVR is where it's at - Fact. The EF has a longer range and a far superior BVR tools at it's disposal.
It is clearly the better air superiority fighter.
I hope we will never have to use them, but who knows what the future holds.... There are a lot of crazy people in the world.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latin American governments except for Argentina are wasting their resources in their arms race, from Mexico to Peru, Chile, Brazil, even countries like Ecuador and Bolivia are buying equipment. Of course Colombia. Thank goodness Argentina has not joined them, we are past thinking tanks and planes make us better.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0(8) Tobias
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0No offence intended, but.....................
More I read your posts more I find out how much you agree with our present administration...............
Could it be Thinkable that the K's are not sooooo incompetent after all?
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