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Malvinas dispute anticipates visits of Cristina Fernandez and Hague to Chile

Tuesday, February 7th 2012 - 00:03 UTC
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British Foreign Secretary William Hague and Argentine president Cristina Fernandez are expected to visit Chile in the near future as pressure mounts on the conservative government of President Sebastian Piñera because of the ongoing UK/Argentina diplomatic dispute over the Faklands/Malvinas issue. Read full article

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  • Helber Galarga

    that's right Hague! Get you @rse of that comfortable chair in London and get to work. You've got many Governments in latin American that need wooing. *lol*

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    And you really need to stop climaxing over news articles, its not good for your keyboard lol.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    all good Teaboy, all good :)
    I actually like you lot! In fact, I have no doubts I could sit and have a beer with most of you.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    these guys will belive anything,
    besides, if chile is such a stauntch friend of argentina, then she and her bloggers have nothing to worry abt, do they,[or do they??]

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/falklands-no-talks-on-sovereignty/

    Sawle baby - yeah !!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Hurry up Hague :-)))

    5 Lorton
    That Dick...Sawle is an Englishman like you, what do you expect him to say?

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Sawle baby - yeah !!
    AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
    lordy,baby..AHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA
    What an IDIOT!! My GOD!!!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    MoreCrap and Marv - Argentina's intelligentsia :-)

    Of course, we know what will happen. Chile will say yes to the British. And then Chile will say yes to Argentina ......... but what will she do - nothing probably!

    The LAN Chile flight will come down to a hard headed business decision. Personally I hope it stops - after all, good evidence of the 'blockade' that Argentina denies.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    you are contradicintg yourself Lord Ton! It must be the effects of old age *lol*

    On the one hand you say “The LAN Chile flight will come down to a hard headed business decision.”

    However, on the other you say “good evidence of the 'blockade' that Argentina denies. ”

    So, please enligthens us: if LAN cancels the flights due to a 'hard headed business decision' as you claim, will it be evidence of Argetina's blockade?
    *roll eyes*
    Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Lorton, are you invited?

    http://www.clarin.com/politica/Cristina-invito-oposicion-anuncios-Malvinas_0_641336060.html

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Helter Skelter - perhaps you english is not so good? If Argentina forces LAN to fly around its air space, then the business decision will have to be taken on whether the flight is still profitable.

    So - Argentina maintains its blockade, and LAN Chile has to look at its business.

    Are you an idiot ??

    MoreCrap - its not them she has to convince ! It's the UN, and Argentina hasn't managed a new Resolution since 1988. No good relying on dead ones!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    12-Mr Lorton
    MoreCrap from you,mate!!!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    12 Lorton, Cristina doesn't have any problem to convince all the nations that support our Malvinas cause.
    You must be talking about Cameron, he could not convince India to but their jets and begged the Americans to let them played with them in the Persian Gulf.

    Tuesday 07 February 2012
    “Britain was forced to plead with the US to take part in the flotilla challenging Iranian power in the Gulf after American commanders decided the Royal Navy had nothing to contribute to the mission”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9064697/Britain-had-to-plead-with-US-to-take-part-in-Iran-flotilla.html

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Dear Pro Malvinenses: Am I dreaming,or this allien hague is for real??
    Falkland Islands: Royal Navy packs considerable punch, warns William Hague
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/9052021/Falkland-Islands-Royal-Navy-packs-considerable-punch-warns-William-Hague.html
    AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
    guillermito: You do not have anything more “convincing” than this????
    I think the brits are gone mad...for sure!!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kiwisarg

    mmmmmm! brits!!!It is not good! bad boys!! Marcos estos son de terror!!no?ha,ha!! interesting link!!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    Very interesting article in the British newspaper the Independent:

    “”At the same time, Westminster-based leaders will defend the geographical entity known as the UK while celebrating the recapture of islands thousands of miles away that the Government at the time had contemplated handing over. The early plans of the Thatcher government to lease back the islands were sensible. The current government should take a look at them or find an alternative of its own, but will not do so. The whirl of events challenges the mythologies of the Falklands War but no party leader would dare to do so.“”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/steve-richards/steve-richards-will-nobody-challenge-the-falklands-war-myths-6612080.html

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    It is impossible to 'lease-back' something that was never owned by the other side.

    But hey, welcome to a free press :-)

    Not that it'll help Argentina at all. If Argentina had the support it claimed the Falklands would have been a part of Tierra del Fuego Province by now. You idiotas should not believe all you read - after all, people like me write it!

    :-)

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    18 Lorton “should not believe all you read - after all, people like me write it!”

    Lorton, your insignificant blog is followed by 5 Brits, Independent, The Guardian or Telegraph is followed by millions. Do you see the difference?

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    MoreCrap - you have no idea of my readership figures !

    Now, I wonder how successful this League will be :-

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/belgrano-league/

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I do find it somewhat amusing the Argentine posters have to post articles from UK newspapers and youtube videos produced by Argi crazies. At least our newspapers enjoy the freedoms of free speech unlike the Argentine press who have recently being chased for their reporting on the true state of the Argentine economy.

    I also find great amusement in post 15 stating the most advanced destroyer in the world is no threat, the irony is strong in this one.

    I really wish the UK and Argentina could form a sensible relationship that allows the Falkland islanders to live in peace then maybe we wouldn't need to have such an aggressive stance towards a country with a pitiful armed forces.

    I would even support sharing the oil revenue with the people of Argentina its just a shame they are lead by someone who is more intent on stiring up bad feeling as opposed to closing the gap.

    If there is one thing CFK seemingly cannot understand is the more aggressive the moves towards the Falklands the more it garners British fighting spirit and the worse the situation will get, if she thinks she can make the British people back down she is greatly mistaken. The British people are a reasonable people in modern times, please don't refer to history, we are not the same people we were several hundred years ago just like the Argentine people are now under a democracy now and not the same people they were under military rule.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    @ Xect:

    there is a lot of truth in your post! Just one observation. Freedom of press is not curtailed in Argentina. The Gov't is continuously criticised and that is a good thing!
    If we quote from UK articles it's because we can read in English and because many of them are quite good. I don't see anything wrong with that.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Freedom of newsprint, on the other hand ?

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    Well, Lord Ton, the new bill passed on the media seeks to democratise newsprint. As it stands, it is hardly fair with Clarin and La Nacion controlling more than 50% of Papel Prensa.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    @19 The guardian followed by millions ..LOLing a lot

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    @ 19 Lord Ton's blog followed by 5 Brits....LOLing a lot.
    I don't even think his wife reads him

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @3 Helber, i agree, most of us here could probably sit and have a beer and a good time together, especially with the humourous comments put on here by alot of people. I don't think anyone here really wishes anyone else any harm despite our patriotism, we just all love our countries. In our case we will defend the islanders and their rights, in the other case, you are looking at enforcing what you believe is your rights, regardless of whether its a believe that was indoctrinated or not. But end of the day the only real people here that matter are the falklanders. Would you move from your home, without a fight, just because someone else was claiming it? No, you wouldn't as your home is just as much your castle as an englishman or islanders home is their castle.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    would even support sharing the oil revenue with the people of Argentina its just a shame they are lead by someone who is more intent on stiring up bad feeling as opposed to closing the gap.

    Oil revenue? How can you share oil revenue when there is no oil!
    Type 45 destroyer..Was not the type 42 the most advanced in 1982? Was sunk in NO TIME....
    Just shows the stupidity of uk..3 milions unemployed,1 trillion public debt,9 trillion foreign debt....
    uk is STUPID!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @28 actually the last sentence shows your own stupidity, because at the time you had fighter jets consider to be state of the art, which you are now obsolete, yet you still have them. Therefore a type 42 back in 1982 had no advantage over a state of the art fighter jet back in 1982. But as you have the same jets, and the type 45 is brand new and state of the art and capable of taking down a whole load of your obsolete jets, on its own, before you even get within bombing range, then your clearly the stupid one if you did try to attack the HMS Dauntless or the islands. As the dauntless air defences range can cover the entire islands. As one naval commander said, we can literally sit of the argentina cost, take out all aircrafts as they take off, while at the same time detect and sink destroy ships, that ares till over the horizon and not in visual range.

    As for the aricle in the independent that was posted in by Marcos. You really need to read the whole article and not just the headlines, if yu read it you would notice the british were perfectly hapy to let the americans do it themselves, its only when other european leaders begged to take part, that britian also decided to take part. They did not beg to take part at all, but only decided to take part due to france and other EU countries navies being involved after such EU countries begged the americans to all them to be involved and not have it as just an american excercise.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    28 actually the last sentence shows your own stupidity, because at the time you had fighter jets consider to be state of the art, which you are now obsolete, yet you still have them. Therefore a type 42 back in 1982 had no advantage over a state of the art fighter jet back in 1982. But as you have the same jets, and the type 45 is brand new and state of the art and capable of taking down a whole load of your obsolete jets, on its own, before you even get within bombing range, then your clearly the stupid one if you did try to attack the HMS Dauntless or the islands. As the dauntless air defences range can cover the entire islands. As one naval commander said, we can literally sit of the argentina cost, take out all aircrafts as they take off, while at the same time detect and sink destroy ships, that ares till over the horizon and not in visual range.
    Any surface ship are vulnerable to a misile.Just look how many frigates were sunk by conventional bombs..They are too fast.You throw 5 of them and NO SHIP can Stop them..
    Like I said: The conservative dismantle almost all the industry in uk.ONly the fading revenue from oil uk still have.LOndon was sold.there is nothing to sale anymore.....
    And Argentina is boomimg in reality.because is not working on credit....USA,uk,Greece,Spain they were working on credit....That is finished.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aduphanel

    I am English and im proud of the way under Maggie thatcher we defended the falklands from Argentinian agression.

    If Argentina wants to play that game, well Argentina is nothing more then a spanish invention and they should hand all their land back to the native inca tribes of south america. Its laugha

    Personally if i was the British Foreign minister , i would ban all flights /ships from South America to the UK (That will stop all drugs being imported for a start) and ban all flights/ships to the caribbean states who signed up (and no more handouts to them from uk tax payers).

    Good luck in trying to face down British Nuclear submarines.

    I am glad Iam investing into oils shares specifically in support of the Falklands irrespective of the cost.My father was a weapons officer in the Royal Navy from 1936 to 1960s and we dont crap from anyone especially some tin pot banana republics who couldnt organise a tea party let alone threaten UK.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @31Aduphanel,
    l like that man. A man who says what l feel.
    l too, would fight fire with fire.
    They want to blockade us, fine
    We'll blockade them.
    No more handouts,
    No more flights to/from Argentina.
    Dad's uncle was a CPO in the RN & RAN from the 1930's until sometime in the 1950's.
    l know that he was on the Courageous.
    Don't know much more about him

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    31 and 32 gentlemen and I use the word in its widest possible context I think you may be on to something.
    It would be wonderful if England tried to blockade South America ohh please do could we offer more encouragement for you to seek the powers in the city to follow this route.
    Of course the Englishman doesnt mention one thing if Scotland joins Ireland in leaving the U?K who will be left to fight the English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    26 Helber Galarga “ 19 Lord Ton's blog followed by 5 Brits....LOLing a lot.
    I don't even think his wife reads him”

    :-)))))

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @19 You mention “millions”. The Independent has a daily circulation of 182,881. The Guardian has 230,541 whilst the Daily Telegraph manages 634,113. That's a smidgeon over ONE million. And the Guardian is the paper of choice for crazies. Want to tell us more?

    @26 Didn't you say you could read English? (22) LOL means 'laugh out loud'. So your comment reads “laugh out louding a lot”. And you reckon you can read English?

    @28 Oh, goody. We're going for statistics. You sank a Type 42 and we sank your cruiser. You didn't shoot down any of our aircraft and we destroyed about 100 of yours. You killed 258 of our guys and we killed 649 of yours. You wounded 775 of ours and we wounded 1,068 of yours. You took 115 prisoners and we took 11,313. And here's the best one. You surrendered. We didn't.

    @30 You should look up the Type 45's capabilities. You will find that a single Type 45 can, in an 'intensive' attack, track, engage and destroy more targets than 5 Type 42s acting together. Moreover, you should take note that, in joint training with US forces, the US forces had to ask our Type 45 to switch off its defence capability so that they could do 'something'.

    @33 Do you understand how much money the UK would save if Scotland left? Taking everything into account, it would be about £168 million A DAY! Put that into context. We could afford more than 100 Typhoons every day. Or we could afford 4 Type 45s every month. Isn't that building more combat aircraft every day than argieland has in its entire air force? And how do our Type 45 destroyers match up against argie destroyers? Oh, they don't have any!

    And why would we blockade the whole of South America? No. The aim will be to totally destroy the ability of argieland and chavez to interfere in anything Britain or the Falklands choose to do. The 6 Venezuelan and 4 argie frigates shouldn't take long. Ever figured what happens to frigates when a nuclear missile explodes in their harbour? Then there's our subs!

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    #34 Marcos and # 26 Helber Galarga

    “...I don't even think his wife reads him”

    wife ?? seem to me that Roger as well typical DOM brit search for another thing in Thailand.....

    ”..Roger and Nice, and, right, Malai, a Redemptionist School staff member examine the target areas.”

    http://pattayamail.com/732/sports.shtml

    is really sad if that kind of person is advicing important figures, a disgrace and only is looking for destruction between anglo-argentine relations

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aduphanel

    well Isolde , my father started off as a Ganges Boy in 1931 (im from a second marriage (born in 1960s) after my father left navy and joined MOD as a sea trials office doing self noise testing on ships etc, my mother was a wren in the 1960s, anyway my father learned sonar (and taught it for a while at Horndean (during the war)and in ww2 was on destroyer duty and was promoted to CPO - depth charges and torpedoes and was in one of the successfuly battles of narvik and also north atlantic patrol, i know he went to Gibralter alot and in the final part of the war. He finally retired in 1960s as a lt cmdr
    The only person he never liked was Mountbatten who wanted to distingush between Officers through the ranks (like my father) and officers from dartmouth who would be given some sort of insignia and of course Northern ireland Paisley who used to shout at and make faces at (never swore and he never had tatoos). (that maybe because my father was Roman catholic and his father originated from cork in southern ireland ( though left there in 1890s)

    Anyway re falklands , The argentians and co and carribeans are just full of hot air . I Just hope they find lots of Oil (RKH only atm) to wind them up even more.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    36 so_far Roger looks very happy looking at those young and “Nice” targets :-)
    Lorton, nice shorts :-)))

    37 Since the American commanders decided the Royal Navy had nothing to contribute to the mission in the Persian gulf Briton changed is name to Aduphanel.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aduphanel

    38 If the south armericans think they have remotest chance against British Soverign territory dream on

    How are the inca snatching colonialist spanish colonialsts
    a bit rich of them talking about ex imperialist uk, when there entire country is a colonial invention by spanish invaders.

    Well when the argentinans try to even dare to get near Falklands by sea with military vessels . Perhaps you would like to ask the survivors of the Belgrano what happens when a battleship faces off with a nuclear submarine. The Venezulans are a joke when it comes to armed troops. The only thing the south americans are good at is Dancing and letting Nazis in to their countries. Hardly a risk for a defended Falklands.

    oh by the way its FALKLAND ISLANDS .

    As i said before just ban all south american and caribbean planes and ships into any British airports or ports . That should shut them up.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AndyMac

    39 Aduphane

    The Argentines are not a real nation, their country has only existed for about 175 years. Most Argentines trace their family history to Italy, Spain, Germany and the British Isles. The only real Argentines are the Amerindians and their nation is the entire continent of America.

    The Argentines I know have Italian mothers, English father, Spanish grandfathers, German grandmothers, Welsh great great uncles. It's technically impossible to claim Argentines are a nation.

    They also have the most comically fascist like government on the entire continent. Their entire policy agenda revolves around a group of islands they work 24/7 to alienate the population of. While spreading lies and peddling rants about “the British” that make Mugabe look normal by comparison.

    Latin Americans find Argentina an alien culture, its a colonial relic, a piece of Europe transplanted onto a continent thousands of miles away. The culture is Latin European, with a touch of English and Welsh. It certainly bears no resemblance to its neighbors in Paraguay, Bolivia, Venezuela, or Peru.

    Even the Argentine honour guards wear colonial uniforms copied from the British and Spanish Imperial era.

    They are a throwback to another age. An age of fascism.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Why are the argie bloggers up in arms again,
    William Hague and Cristina Fernandez are expected to visit Chile in the near future
    Why the fuss,

    Is it because other countries in the south are getting all the attention,
    And not her, silly really,

    And now we hear that Hugo the bear, has now stated that his troops will fight with argentine soldiers if the need arises,

    And we thought they wanted to talk,
    And behind our backs once again they sneak to get others to do her dirty work,

    .

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Dr Carrizal

    @13, 16
    What a wire twanger you are...
    Just more of your BS, eh, teke?

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • suzy

    I've been following this site for sometime but I feel time to post. I'm 16, I'm a kelper. If the Argies want the Falklands come and take it and see what you get. I just hope you have enough places to put your dead because we don't want any more over here!

    I have been in Sea Cadets and Marine Detachment since I was 8. I plan to join the Defence Force as soon as I finish 6th form. Maybe to you I'm just a girl but I tell you now, come and see how straight I shoot. Come and find out!

    There are hundreds more just like me, waiting. We've heard all the talk now come on. We are waiting.

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    what time is it down there,
    has CFK made her speech yet .

    Feb 07th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aduphanel

    In response to her stupid attempt to beg to the UN to stoke up anti British feeling.

    1) VETO
    2) Its the Falkland Islands. and dont know want place this colonial spanish occupier of Inca terriory is referring to . But its no good complaining about a non existence place . Some one should tell her Malivinas DOESNT Exist
    3) ban all flights and shipping from Argentina to any UK Soverign terriory and ban any Argentine citizen for entering UK Soverign terriotory.
    4) Argentina is itself a made up colonial country and to have the audacity to whinge about British territory is farcical.

    HUGO muppet and this ridiculous woman will no doubt will be invited along by the Newt should he win the Mayor election to London .

    Feb 08th, 2012 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @37Aduphanel,
    Dad's uncle was an RC also. Don't think they were lrish. The family came from Yorkshire.
    Don't you think this division between different Christian sects is ridiculous? All because a Spanish Pope wouldn't let Henry change his woman.
    l hope they find billions of gallons of oil, just annoy the Argentines!
    Yes, ban ALL Argentines from British territories & no help in any way.Ban their flights from our territories also.
    Stop pussyfooting around with them.

    Feb 08th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Aduphanel

    Nice one British government, the argies might have got away with their whining under a labour government. But not under a primarily a tory gov.

    I do like the way that the uk told argies a history lesson ie . The British claim is in 1700s and that the argies country was much smalled in 1833 ie much further north (in other words not only did they not have any right to the falkland islands , but basically they pinched other land to extand their country southwards). Nice one
    article is here:-
    http://www.namnewsnetwork.org/v2/read.php?id=184254 BW

    Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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