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Timerman on Friday formalizes at UN complaint against UK ‘militarization’ of Malvinas dispute
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez gave instructions for the formal complaint before the United Nations accusing the United Kingdom of ‘militarization’ of the South Atlantic and Malvinas Islands be presented on Friday, according to a release from the Argentine Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe Argentine's looking more and more desperate, scraping the barrel and resorting the tactics of third world states like Zimbabwe. With standards like that, you know your in a banana republic. I feel sorry for all the decent Argentines dragged along by these childish games. CFK out of her depth and drowning fast.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine's looking more and more desperate, scraping the barrel and resorting the tactics of third world states like Zimbabwe. With standards like that, you know your in a banana republic. I feel sorry for all the decent Argentines dragged along by these childish games. CFK out of her depth and drowning fast
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sure fascist.a brit talking like that..you know how many milions will tab the brits at the back.....
I think uk is loosing the battle.....
Too bad...uk the Pinnacle of Stupidity!
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!!
No they aren't Malvinero1,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are ours.
And the oil is ALL OURS, too.
Yummy, but none for you.
But then, you don't need it.
You keep telling us that Argentina is a paradise on earth♥
CFK is fresh out of party tricks , Malevolentero.... and none of them worked....
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinero
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0you right .......I think uk is loosing the battle.....
Too bad...uk the Pinnacle of Stupidity!
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!! totally agree, mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do find it somewhat amusing the the complaint is about the UK and one of the reviewers of the complaint is none other than the UK with also veto powers.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0This isn't anything other than a shameless and pointless PR stunt.
'Gave instructions', which means “Fill Ban Ki-moon full of lies and disinformation”.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure Ban Ki-moon will be smirking over this. Militarization they say by exchanging one warship for another which they have done for the past 30 years.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I mean I can understand the Argentine position, clearly sending one warship into that vast swathe of ocean is of course turning it into a militarized zone...
Also it should be clear that Argentina isn't doing the same by having its own 40 odd ships sat in the region.
There's strong logic in this argument.........
Oh look the argies have found a new word to play with.....'Militarization', last year it was 'Unilateral'...what will it be next year I wonder?
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should send Prince Harry in his Apache Helicopter. The Argies would go mental ....especially the attractive young females....if there are any.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0they don't stay young for long...or attractive.. just take a look at the bitch in the Casa Rosada
Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can imagine the meeting:
Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Timmidman: Yacka, yacka, yacka, for two hours.
Ambassador Kodjo Menan: Thank you for coming, we will enter your comments into this weeks Beano, so everyone else can have a good laugh. Have a nice day.
Argentina: the answer to where are all the willy wonkers? (or something like that) :o)
It will be Great to see Timmerman deliver this POINTLESS piece of information to the UN,it is nothing more than a PR excerise!!!!!
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live the Falklands.
Down with argentine Colonialism.
I can almost imagine the British reply (if they bother):
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We're sorry that our shiny new ship is so intimidating for you. We'd have sent one of the older ones, you know, the less intimidating ones [type 42s] that have been patroling around the Falkland Islands for nearly the last thirty years, but we've decommissioned all but three of them, and they're busy at the moment.”
For a start the uk can comply with the 10 UNGA and the 30 or more calls for negotiation.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0cameron and his cronies look more and more like pirates.....
The brits are soo repulsive....
@15
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the argentines keep asking the same questions they will get the same reply back!!!
“The Islanders have the RIGHT to Self-determination and they want to remain as a British Overseas Territory”.
Just because argentina refuses to acknowledge this, it won't make the UK change its policy on the Falklands.
Long Live the Falklands.
The UK has no legal requirement nor any other requirement to comply with non binding resolutions and as its not in the wishes of the people they will not.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Posters like 15 just simply intensify the feeling the British have that Argentina isn't trust worthy nor should they engage in a communication with a country that seems intent on name calling (both their government and citizens).
Honestly why would the UK engage such disrespectful, childish and nasty people in any form of communication other than telling them any aggression will be met with overwhelming force?
Argentina needs to starting acting like a peaceful and respectful nation to get on diplomatic terms with the UK because clearly it can't force the issue against the strength of the UK.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. Relax, sit back and watch as the argies go to the UN and nothing happen. I don't think the UN really cares anymore. With everything going on lately don't you think they would have said something by now if it is was getting out of control?
Feb 10th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let the argies goto the UN. It would be falling on deaf ears. If the argie really wanted to gain them back and push for soviegnty then they would take it to the ICJ, or are they worried about being laughed at there as well.
Smoke and mirrors
Feb 10th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On 2008, Argentina have ordered up to five PZM[4] at a cost of US$120 million as part of its own Patrulleros de Alta Mar (PAM) programme to be constructed at its Río Santiago Shipyard. Finally on 2010 the Argentine Government launched the construction of the first four in the Tandanor Shipyard.[5]
If there are any more oil contracts to sell in the Falklands the islanders should sell them to large US or Brazilian oil companies. That would end this nonsense... for the time being at least.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Those PZM do not look very impressive and have limited offensive capabilities. What is your point? Argentina cannot not do much with them apart from off shore patroling which is a normal maritime activity for most government.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Argentinians. I almost feel sorry for them. Now we've put our big boat there, they can't murder the natives anymore. Poor Argentinian scum.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Argentinians. I almost feel sorry for them. Now we've put our big boat there, they can't murder the natives anymore. Poor Argentinian scum.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The brits idiots are loosing...
Just comply with th UN res.....Pirates brits!!
Poor Argentinians. I almost feel sorry for them. Now we've put our big boat there, they can't murder the natives anymore. Poor Argentinian scum.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argie idiots are loosing...
Just comply with th UN res.....Pirates
This should be funny. Timerman is going to complain about the militarisation by deploying a Type 45 destroyer to replace a Type 23 frigate. Mind you, Britain has had an on-station warship at the Falkland Islands since 1982, rotating frigates and destroyers. Might have had something to do with the underhand, cowardly invasion and occupation of the Falkland Islands despite the UN Security Council resolution instructing argies to cease fire and leave the Islands.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Almost 40 UN resolutions - wow! See, argies, you can't even get that right. BUT, UNGA resolutions are non-binding and Britain is under no obligation to comply with them. And there was no military invasion in 1833. You can't invade something that belongs to you. The Falklands have belonged to Britain since 1690. 130 years before anything resembling argieland came into being.
Oooh and he has scheduled meetings with the president of C24. The UN Committee packed with Latin American states. Wonder why Britain doesn't bother to attend? Could it be because C24 is packed with argie yes-men and those that argieland has bullied?
But, on the South American continent, Chile, Peru and Uruguay are already backing away. In the Caribbean, Antigua & Barbuda has refuted Timerman's claims of support. Who will be next?
But it must be clear that neither Britain nor the Falkland Islands has much to fear. They are, after all, soiling their panties over one 29 year old search and rescue co-pilot.
Hey, Malvinero1 (#15)
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'The brits are soo repulsive....'
You don't have to generalise,
some of us Brits are rather handsome, well groomed gentlemen.
Speaking for myself, I display all the best features of an Englishman in his prime.
I think if I took you out to dine, you would be truely smitten.
. . . . you are a woman, aren't you?
@Malviner01 You forget, we have the right to veto this silly resolution if we desire. That would be in accordance with the UN policy, what would you say then?
Feb 10th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your pathetic country tried to take the islands by force, and lost. Just accept it and move on. We forgive your stupidity.
I don't neccessarily see that Argentina taking their complaints to the UN is such a bad thing. CFK is on the verge of making too much noise about this and the world will eventually tell her to STFU.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can just see it now as Hector Timerman walks through the door and spy's Kodjo Menan in the background, HEY BOY go get your master and while you’re at it bring me a drink. Thick bastard.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina does not need diplomatic ties with the UK or the Falklands. It needs to stop these measures against the civilians of the Falklands, I always condemn actions against civilians it is just not right morally. Drop the matter, let the Falklanders trade and travel freely with our neighbors, and only ban them from entering Argentine territory either from the sea or land borders.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sooner Argentina just leaves them alone and ends all diplomatic ties with the UK the better.
30 tobias
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would you ban Argentines from visiting the Falkland Islands as well?
I'm curious that's all. There seems to be an increasing number of them that want to visit- way more than the numbers of Falkland Islanders that would want to visit Argentina.
Yes, on the basis that the Falklands are a European Union outpost in the Americas, so as long as that is the case, Argentina should not recognize this. This position has always been Argentina's. Which is different from not recognizing your right to remain by your own willunder British protection or administration.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands as they stand or not part of the American geopolotical entity and should not be treated that way, they are part of the EU. Other countries of course can choose their best dealings with the Falklands.
On a more self-respect level, I'm tired of hearing the Falklanders say they want nothing to do with Argentina. Well, we should grant their wish, not the way CFK is doing now, but by allowing the Falklanders to live in peace and engage with South America. Just not with us, simply pretend we don't exist to you, and that you don't exist to us.
That would be a respectul position to all parties: to the islanders by respecting their dignity,to our neighbors by respecting their sovereingty without any pressuring, and to ourselves by respecting our honor of not dealing with people who see us beneath their shoe.
OAS Supports Argentina
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.oas.org/en/media_center/press_release.asp?sCodigo=E-041/12
on the basis that the Falklands are a European Union outpost in the Americas, so as long as that is the case, Argentina should not recognize this
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And French Guiana the last of the colonial Guianas
Both are wrong. Two wrongs still don't make a right. The UK and France should not include those territories under EU treaties, otherwise they are colonies. They are not in Europe, they should not be treated as such. That does not mean they cannot remain under the administration of a European country, but under the reality that they are in America. Otherwise, it is colonialism.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@tobias - You're missing the bigger picture. This is nothing more than an old fashioned land grab, the same that has happened for centuries. Look at Antarctica - we staked our claim then Argentina tried to claim the same bit 50 odd years later. They see us as a threat. They should really concentrate on sorting their own affairs out, they don't own anything outside their own borders.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Otherwise, it is colonialism
Feb 10th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So how would you classify Hawaii
As its not part of main land America,
Is it a colony of America then .
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Timmerman is live on Sky News at the UN. How he's keeping a straight face is a mystery.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0watching him on tv he's lied already lol
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is great. He's making the UK sound like a superpower. Wish it was true!
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha! Timmerman is a laugh. great one argentina!
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm starting to wonder if he or Christina understand the world they live in.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great TV
falkland islands the most power national in south america? this man could do with go to school! :)
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is awesome, it sounds like a james bond briefing!
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The yanks will be irritated. He's making it sound like we could kick their ass too. I'm just gobsmacked watching this.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lies, lies and more lies. we don't have any nuclear in the south altantic!
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We could have - Vanguard submarines patrol all over the place. However - there is NO CHANCE that the Argentines have any information as to its whereabouts. It's pretty irrelevant anyway as a Trident has a range of 12,000km so it doesn't really matter where it is. His whole speech was just daft. The first journalist to ask a question had a real twinkle in his eye.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i don't think we send the Vanguards out of the north altantic? (because of their range) + we scrapped all the nuclears, apart from tho's on the vanguards. so timmerman lied lol
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Argentines choose to confuse nuclear powered with nuclear armed submarines when it suits them.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol true, sorry for my grammer :p did you see the reply?
Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British ambassador had a lot more gravitas than Timerman. It was like a stern headmaster reprimanding a naughty schoolboy for putting his hand in the cookie jar. I think CFK will come to regret this - she's playing all her cards without holding any of the aces.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They've gone backwards because their only hope is to befriend the Falklanders and they simply can't bring themselves to do it. It seems to be about pride and humiliation above anything else. They don't seem to be able to learn the lesson that if you bang your head against a wall a second, third and fourth time it's going to hurt as much as the first.
51 idlehands
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hey been reading this site for a couple weeks, and your generally the one with a level head :)
i really can't see how this has helped argentina. it just makes them look a bit like silly!
The OAS supports Argentina and criticized the “tone warmonger” in Britain.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0read link
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultimas/subnotas/20-57748-2012-02-10.html
There are some nutters from both sides who post here - but the debate is often just schoolyard insults being thrown back and forth. I can never be bothered to comment on the history of it because the same old stuff gets regurgitated year after year. Though it's always fun to have the occassional dig. Stay sensible and stay around and you'll discover that the Falklands are pestered daily by Argentina in one way or another. You barely ever hear any of it in the UK press.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've had a long interest in the topic since I became mates with a chap that fought on Two Sisters.
There was some terrible news that swept England today. The whole nation was disappointed that Maradona announced he had chosen not to be considered for the role of replacing Fabio Capello. I'm surprised the streets aren't flooded with tears.
Timmerman given a firm slap down at the UN today - http://tinyurl.com/76y8jjg
Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love the how the stupid argentines also made threats to kill, to Lisa Watson only to sign their names at the end. Idiots lol.
This is what the UN had to say today
Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Ban's office said in a statement that the UN secretary general had “expressed the hope that the governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom will avoid an escalation of this dispute and resolve differences peacefully and through dialogue”.
And this is what we British had to say on the matter
The UK says it is only carrying out routine operations in the South Atlantic, off Argentina's east coast.
The HMS Dauntless, which is due to arrive off the Falklands in March, is among the largest and most powerful of the UK's air defence destroyers.
The UK says the islands have been militarised ever since Argentina's invasion in 1982 and insists its defences remain unchanged and the warship is only replacing one in the area..
The UK says the islanders have the right to self-determination and it will enter into negotiations on the status of the Falklands only if they request it.
You see it’s not we British that are not calm about things, it’s the excitable psychopathic blundering Argentine Government.
That's it end of discussion. Now it is up to the psychopathic lobotomised sour faced bitch who is supposed to be having the best interests of Argentina close to her heart to back down with the rhetoric and come over to the UK and kiss Cameron’s backside and go down on bended knee and ask forgiveness from the 3,000 people on the Falkland Islands for trying to make their lives a misery.
Had to laugh at #56 - that was pretty much the tone of it.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is suggested that argentina will ask the UN to stop the provercation by the UK goverment,by requesting the british stop building the two carriers, and stop building the 6 other astute subs, and to scrap the type 26, as this is seen as provocation,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is suggested that the british goverment tells them to f.o.
Maybe the UK should consider deploying all new units to the Falkland islands for war games, you know just to prove they are well prepared for the next ill fated adventure of the Argentine government.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0actualy their is no reason why the royal navy cannot deploy more ships, planes and soldiers, for exersizes, great to watch,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sticks and stones for you, that's what Cristina de Kirchner has already prepared for you too Falklanders. The government of the Malvinist Cristina de Kirchner doesn't respect the Human Rights as it is shown on this video,
Feb 10th, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1447661-greenpeace-desafia-a-la-presidenta-a-un-debate-serio-sobre-mineria#comentar
Isn't it great that your government treats you like sh*t, Malvinists? Pirate Hunter, if I were living in Canada like you, I'd be a kirchnerist too. Queen Elizabeth II is better than sh*tty Cristina and you know it lol
@ 53 Nice to see your beloved Cristina showing her real face once again, you f*cking peronist :)
UK being left out in the cold as ill-informed and its actions as bullying. Why else would the OAS support Argentina's statements at the UNSC? And the OAS' SG is a Chilean. You could hardly make an argument that he would 'love' Argentina, could you? BURN!
Feb 11th, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Secretary General of the Organization of American States (OAS), José Miguel Insulza, expressed today his full support of the statements made by the President of the Republic of Argentina, Cristina Fernández, who upon vindicating the right of her country to the Malvinas Islands, warned that nobody should expect from her Nation “a response outside of politics and diplomacy.” Insulza highlighted that President Fernández “has made use of the only valid instrument to those who believe in peace and democracy: political dialogue; and in this way, she has the full support of all our region.“
The head of the OAS highlighted the decision to repudiate ”the militarization of the South Atlantic“ expressed by President Fernández, who also asserted she will preserve ”a region where peace predominates, where we have had conflicts that we have resolved without arms, among us South Americans.“
On the determination of the Mercosur countries to refuse ships with the Islands' flag, Insulza expressed his full agreement with this position and noted that ”Great Britain should not try to force the entry into ports of Latin America and the Caribbean of a flag not recognized by the international community.“
The Secretary General of the hemispheric organization warned about the danger of sending war ships to the South Atlantic and emphasized the ”nonsense in adding a bellicose tone to a conflict with a country that in the last years has expressed its desire for peace, and has not given any indications of wishing to change that a policy.“ ”On the contrary, Argentina is among the last on the list of defense spending countries in our region, and that fact alone speaks clearly about the Argentine people's vocation for peace,” he insisted.
Hate to burst your bubble but the hard truth is that only members of the OAS care what it has to say.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, fair enough Idlehands but the question still stands!
Feb 11th, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why is the single biggest multilateral regional organisation supporting Argentina's position?
I laughed hard after watching that Timerman video. He looked like a desperate loser.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0WTF is the OAS?
@64 Helber,
Feb 11th, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who knows & who cares?
Had the OAS come out an openly support the colonist of the islands, I am sure you would not be saying what you are saying Isolde and markd.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0However given that the shoe is on the other foot, you dismiss it. More hypocrisy from Anglo-Saxons. I am quite used to it by now.
they did just come out and support them. whats your point?
Feb 11th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read the OAS statement I posted almost in full on #62.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Self explanatory, really ...
The UN does not back you, another famous argie lie,
Feb 11th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN has more pressing problems with other countries that are in desperate need of help,
The last thing it needs is a bloody crying spoilt child seeking attention on the world stage,
You he said no more ratching, it up
And what will CFK do,
The world is far to busy to worry abt you,
No one cares, no one listens,
Grow up.
Who said anything about the UN? *confused*
Feb 11th, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was an OAS statement I referred to...
Who said anything about the OAS ? *confused*
Feb 11th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did!
Feb 11th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0post number # 62
mmmm
Feb 11th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0im /was repling to the name of the blogg,
Timerman on Friday formalizes at UN complaint ,,
crossed wires we think .lol.
Helber, the OAS is irrelevent to us.
Feb 11th, 2012 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try again, mate.
FYI, The Anglo-Saxons are only one part of our blood.
There are many others.
All good #74, all good :)
Feb 12th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@75 I am starting to like you more and more Isolde. Sometimes you are too kind :0
#75 Isolate
Feb 12th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0>>The Anglo-Saxons are only one part of our blood.
Yes i know you are 29 argies,250 chilean and in total are 2800 person ah 3000 military there. It is a crisol de razas! As Timerman say it is a global problem that not only Argentina must go to ONU but also chile/ Uruguay ,Brasil becuase the Sur Atlantic is in danger. The militarization and the exploration of oil in the atlantic might bring a ecological disaster and impact in all the regionto . That remember me about the Oil spill in Guf of Mexico close to Florida coast.
77 mariana
Feb 12th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not know where you get your data from but there are not 3,000 military on the Falklands (there are no Malvinas).
If you require evidence of oil spills near to home try 'Petrobras oil spills', in Google and see what comes up.
The only danger to the South Atlantic is from the government (and I use that term advisedly) of Argentina. But if you went to school since the indoctrination of history school books by 'Generalisimo' Peron you wouldn't know that.
Argentina alone, has to be the biggest danger in the south Atlantic region,
Feb 12th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she is a delinquent child that wants what it cant have, and does not own, it even goes to the UN with false claims,
The world has more pressing problems to worry abt, rather than listen to a child crying,
The down side is, like all spoilt out of control children they do not realise or understand the consequences of their actions, and will push this item all the way to conflict and try to blame it on others,
Remove Argentina from the elusion, and the south Atlantic and south American mainland, would return instantly to peace and prosperity, would it not,
Argentina is it own worst enemy.
53 Raul
Feb 12th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is Argentine islands and Argentine oil, being drilled by colonial pirates, protect by pirate ships, sooner all destroyed better.
Clearly, Malvinas is Argentine, claim exist since before Argentina exist. This is well documented that we renounce claim in 1850 but claim was resurrected under Peron who traveled to Italy and adopted policies of Mussolini fascist party in order to make Argentina great nation that it became.
As part of expanded living space, we must continue this policy and we must take over Terra del Fuego and Beagle Channel and then Malvinas.
My grandfather while working for Intelligence visit Indonesia in 1976 to copy plans they used for invasion of Portuguese East Timor and removal of colonial population to be copied in invasion of Malvinas.
If we had copied these plans our invasion would be success and like East Timor is part of Indonesia, Malvinas would now be part of Argentina. World has very short memory.
In order to do good for our country we must do bad things. This is what my grandfather always says.
We know Malvinas never been under Argentine sovereignty but gifted to us by Papal Bull in 1496. No one can argue with Pope or God, that whole of South America given by him to Spain (not Portugal, Brazil is anomaly) .
Go home colonial pirates w claim you land before our country exist, you can not argue with that. You live there almost 200 years illegally, you have no rights. We will own your homes, farms, businesses, oil and fish.
You will be made to speak Spanish, drive on right, obey our laws, live under our government and governor. In return we give you right to be reborn like our national hero James Peck.
James Peck is son of Malvinas War traitor Terry Peck, he was awarded MBE for helping British occupy our land. Unlike his father, James is brave, patriot, his father will be turning in his grave.
You can all be reborn like James Peck. Or you can die like Terry Peck!
Filippo - As you said from the beginning, it's not about the Falkland Islands, it's about the oil. Argentina is an high inflation-ridden banana republic desperate for money, so of course you want that oil money more than anything else. Even by trying to make false claims about sovereignty. You claim no one can argue with Pope or God about sovereignty? And there was me thinking Muslim extremists are potentially dangerous! You seem crazy, especially when you use the phrase 'colonial-pirates'. It makes you sounds like an Argentinian Mugabe!
Feb 12th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 081 BenC30
Feb 12th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is not as good looking.
But I am told he is a Troll from the UK. :o)
@73 I don't think you really understand. You keep whittering on about the OAS. I'll try to emphasise this so that you get the idea. WE DON'T CARE. IN FACT, WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING F*CK. There exactly two countries in the OAS that are of any relevance. See if you can figure out which two.
Feb 12th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 More indigenous civilians and fewer British defence forces than you quote.
@80 I've answered your copy and paste drivel somewhere else. The real truth is that, if the British government follows the wishes of the British people, argieland's population will shortly be less than half the current figure. And those survivors will be diseased, poxed animals. Oh, sorry. They are already diseased, poxed animals. Just more of them. How wonderful we Brits are. Disease and pest control all in one. We should charge.
A few words to any Chileans and Uruguayans. We've had good relations for quite a few years. Probably something to do with the British part in the creation of your countries. It's something we remember. Do you? We'd like to leave you out of anything we might have to do to argieland and its supporters. Your choice. We like to remember our friends!
Filippo
Feb 12th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is an idiot,
he comes and goes with the seasons of the madhouse and asylums, just ignore him,
he is the last thing argies need ,
I've come to the conclusion that there are internet cafe's in the asylums of BA, and Filippo has bought himself a years annual access pass !! :)
Feb 12th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@83
Feb 12th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A few words to any Chileans and Uruguayans. We've had good relations for quite a few years. Probably something to do with the British part in the creation of your countries. It's something we remember. Do you? We'd like to leave you out of anything we might have to do to argieland and its supporters. Your choice. We like to remember our friends!
what an idiot! Who the f@ck do you think you are? You are a skid mark on a toilet bowl mate. Make no mistake
@86 Helber,
Feb 13th, 2012 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now now, Helber. Settle down mate.
@77 mariana,
You forgot the Chinese laundrymen & the Zimbabwean de-miners, dahling.
All highly trained Special Forces here to help us repel another Argentine invasion.
86 Helber Galarga
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe, but it was you going down the bowl that caused the mark
Think on it or ask Think, you will both get it, eventually.
@83 Conqueror,
Feb 13th, 2012 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enough of that nonsense. We aren't about to nuke anybody unless they start throwing nukes at us.
So, to everyone now, let's back off and see what we agree on: Argentina is not going to give up on the islands. Neither is the UK. It'd be political suicide for the leaders of either country. Equally, neither country is about to charge to war with the other, even though potential oil revenues are inflaming the issue. How about this for an idea:
1) Argentina ceases to harass and obstruct ships aiming to trade with the Falklands.
2) A short oil drilling moratorium is declared, until point 3 is resolved.
3) We look again at Falkland independence, maybe holding a referendum on the topic. Yes, I know, it's been declared a “non-self-governing territory” by virtue of its small population. But the population's now rather larger than it was when that decision was made; and other very small countries have gained independence (e.g. Nauru, whose population stood at about 6,000 at independence). And yes, defence is a tricky issue, but a defence treaty could be drawn up with the UK, and it could even be drawn up and on the table prior to the referendum. Commonwealth membership could also likely be arranged, and international recognition expedited (if not Argentinian recognition under the current administration, even with the financial possibilities implicit in point 4).
4) If we get a newly independent Falklands from this, they deal with whoever the heck they like on the subject of extracting their oil. If not, we carry on with the status quo, the UK go back to drilling oil, and Argentina go back to complaining about it.
What do you think? Too utopian? Would the islanders even go for it? Answers on a postcard, please :).
@89 Maybe, who knows. I don't think Argentina want to even recognize their presence so far. They see them as an 'implanted population', like they're not real people. Its wrong, and its a shame so many other countries have blocked ports to them. What a sad state of affairs for the human race.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I always wonder what would happen if aliens invaded us. How trivial our petty differences would seem then, the whole world united against a common enemy. It seems that there is always a war on, on some scale around the world. Even in a quiet road you get neighbours arguing over the boundaries of their gardens, couples rowing about nothing. Some people aren't content unless they're fighting, its like a need that drives them, makes them feel like they have a purpose.
All we really need is a roof over our head and some food. Everything else is a luxury. Its a shame more people don't see that and enjoy what they've got. Argentina, shame on you. Is your country not big enough? Are you overcrowded? I don't think so.
Ideally this oil feud should be irrelevant, if we just put the best minds together and came up with an alternative. It really is our only option, seeing as most of the oil will be gone in a few years.
89 Deebles
Feb 13th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No chance, and rightly so. There are no Malvinas.
Get Argentina to remove the crap from their 'Constitution', pay to remove the mines and treat the Falklanders without threats for 100 years and you MIGHT be in with a chance.
Just might, mind you.
Helber Galarga
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you delude spineless obsessed skid mark! Do you have to bring the Malvinas into every single thread?, smelly gutter rat.
Its not nice is it,
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Here is a film everyone should watch. It should be compulsory education in Argentine schools to learn about their country recent history, instead of teaching lies about the Falkland Islands (the imaginary Malvinas - which Argentina has NEVER had sovereignty over).
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0That something like this was allowed to happen is a crime against humanity, 50,000-100,000 raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and disappeared (Borges). Unborn babies ripped out of their mothers wombs, young children taken from their parents, who were murdered by the heroic Argentine military.
Anyone of you born in the 70's? I hope your lucky enough to know who your real parents are...
The Official Story / La historia official (1985)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LF5II0wIY
It's a film everyone should watch. Feel shame because the specter of fascism still grips Argentina and as Martino Moreno said “If publishing the truth is forbidden, then lies, ignorance and poverty will follow”.
Argentina's history is still being written by Moreno's assassins.
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