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Falklands: Sean Penn in Argentina, calls for dialogue and an end to colonialism
US actor Sean Penn gave his full support to Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and underlined the conflict must be solved through dialogue. The Hollywood star visited Buenos Aires on Monday as representative of the Haitian people and survivors of the earthquake that bashed the Caribbean nation in 2011. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHollywood joins practically every institution in the Americas in supporting Argentina.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is a crap actor, with absolutely no sense' he married Madonna for goodness sake!! All the left wing actors like to jump on a good bandwagon. Any publicity is good publicity as far as they are concerned.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the conflict must be solved through dialogue.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn charged with assault on photographer
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/7274359/Sean-Penn-charged-with-assault-on-photographer.html
Yeah, I am not a fan of his acting but I loved the first film he directed 'Indian Runner'.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! That anyone believes his opinion carries any weight.
Still, if he is against colonialism he will not want Argentina colonising the Falkland Islands.
Fuck him and the horse he rode into town on....!
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Actor supports south american fascists' .... ho hum...
Poster 1
Feb 13th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1'Hollywood joins practically every institute', which institutes in the USA are you referring too exactly?
Ah the famous druggy Penn gives his opinion;
http://perezhilton.com/2010-09-07-wyclef-accuses-sean-penn-of-using-cocaine
And hopes his critics die of 'screaming anal cancer'
http://perezhilton.com/2010-09-07-wyclef-accuses-sean-penn-of-using-cocaine
Nice character witness you've got there.
He has already previously 'championed' other pariah states such as Venezuela and Cuba. I think it is seen as 'cool' by some US actors (and others) to play at being left wing, anti establishment, as they think it makes them seem as 'edgy' and 'raw'. He is using the current situation to beef up (if you pardon the pun) his saleable reputation.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His favourite holiday destination is Tehran. He has been there several times.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is just another naive 'useful idiot' for Mrs Malvinas to parade.
I thought it was funny personally, Argentina's supporters get more embarrassing by the second.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you can count Chavez, Sean Penn and Iran as allies you know you're doing it wrong!
This is good news for the UK since having these crackpots support the Argentine cause because it simply improves the UK's morale standing and bankrupts the morale standing (if it was ever in question) of Argentina.
They've got some work to do now just to obtain the support of Syria and then I think they pretty much have the aces of the crackpot community!
Penn pissed off being a puppet in team america :-)))))))
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0South Park, Team America and Book of Mormon creators on their mini-spat with Sean Penn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCq3K2O8htw
I am surprised they have not roped in Viggo Mortensen. He grew up in Argentina and has a special fondness for the place. He bailed out San Lorenzo Footie Club a couple of years ago. Maybe CFKC could tap him for some money.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 09 Xect (#)
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely. I think your comments have drawn a line under this thread. LOL
“Every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it, and accept it, And this is mainstream media, who should -- truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies.”
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do I hope that those people die screaming of rectal cancer? Yeah. You know, but I'm not going to spend a lot of energy on it.”
Sean Penn.
“Every day, KIM JONG IL is called a dictator here, and we just accept it, and accept it, And this is mainstream media, who should -- truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies.”
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm... crap actor is crap.
6.are you illiterate?
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 011.there are lots of people who come to Argentina and have an affinity with the place.But Argentinas government as uts been demonstrating for years doesnt need money from anyone
Haha O gara asking if I'm illiterate with your post above.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The irony is strong in this one!
:)
@15 ”there are lots of people (sh!t actor) who come to Argentina and have an affinity with the place (shot indigenous population). But Argentinas (Nationalist Socialist = Nazi) government as uts been demonstrating for years doesnt need money from anyone (unable to get debt after defaulting)”
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good summary you gave there.
there are lots of people who come to Argentina and have an affinity with the place
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, domestic violence
Penn was charged with felony domestic assault
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/hollywoods-history-of-domestic-violence/story-e6frfmqi-1111118865551
Domestic Violence Deaths Rise 40% in Argentina
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/hollywoods-history-of-domestic-violence/story-e6frfmqi-1111118865551
16 You may not like my diction but you seem incapable of distinguishing bewtween Americas and The USA and bewtween institution and institute.Could I suggest an Oxford dictionary.They still do somethings well in England although education is obviously not one of them.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on ga ga aint you going to defend the argies great new hollywood buddy
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh really smart arse.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last time I checked the America's refers to the American continent which unsurprisingly the USA is a part of.
Silly boy.
I'd suggest getting your own dictionary, you might want to pick up a space bar while you're out.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has a third rate America actor got to do with the Falkland Islands, politics, or Argentina? NOTHING.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn, believes in the Illuminati and the New World Order. Like Mel Gibson (despite having British heritage and English surname) he is an Anglophobic and a racist. They believe the world is run by the Queen of England, who controls the Illuminati and is setting up a New World Order, he also believe 9/11 was an inside job carried out by Zionists.
You may just as well hear from Jim, the taxi driver. This is the kind of crap they keep feeding us with.
Argentina is a fascistic colony of European immigrants. The indigenous population live in poverty and are treated like third class citizens in their own land. The only country in South America that acts like a colonial power is Argentina, her population virulently nationalistic. A danger to the region.
1 O gara
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Numpty.
Hollywood is full of anglophile and British actors, actresses, directors and producers. You can find one actor, we can find thousands. You are a wee Bessie.
@1 “Hollywood joins practically every institution in the Americas in supporting Argentina.”
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can we add the UN Colonization Committee to your list, because I think they do a particularly good job and most of what's asked of them in their remit?
What a tw&t. I guess that's why he's a failed actor and not a politician! Not going to lose much sleep about this one, he's in about the same league as Jamie Peck for respect and good political judgement.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 To be fair to Jamie Peck, he did look like he was about to cry in every interview, fiddling away with his little art box.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and to be fair to Sean Penn, he was really good in Cocoon: The Return. Oh wait..
The desperate are getting more desperate,
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who visits Argentina is no concern of ours,
But ramming the Falklands down the throats of everyone that visits is being very childish
But as long as you don’t mention Malvinas you are ok,
Maybe Mr.Penn found the best word for the Brit Colonialism in Malvinas: “archaic”
Feb 13th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”US actor(and ambassador) Sean Penn gave his full support to Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Malvinas Islands“
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is good to see another American supporting Argentina.
Are you jeaulous ”Frankie“@5?
”Actor Sean Penn has been named ambassador at large for Haiti in recognition of his humanitarian work since the 2010 earthquake”
http://news.yahoo.com/sean-penn-named-ambassador-haiti-ceremony-014840479.html
“She proposed the Argentine Gendarmerie as a model to emulate in the Caribbean island.” ... Au contraire, I think the last things that Haitians need are batton weilding thugs dressed up wearing PLO headscarves and throwing stones at the front door of the local HSBC. I think they need real police.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 029 nitrojuan
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the word for your governments fascism is EVIL.
Go back to your stained armchair and your cheap alcohol and tobacco nitro and dream about all the children your brave military slaughtered in the 1970's. I bet you get off on it. Coward scum.
30 Marcos Alejandro
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”US actor(and ambassador) Sean Penn gave his full support to Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Malvinas Islands“
Ambassador ???? I didn't see that in his Wikipedia 'CV'. Do the good people of the USA know this man 'represents' them with pariah regimes? or have you taken the KFC (I like that, who ever first posted it!!) 'Make it up as you go along' school of 'diplomacy' ?
why must they lie to gain a bit of none existent land .
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lets face it,
what goes arround, comes arround,
@33 He's the Ambassador of Haiti, not USA. Which is clearly a great reason for them to discuss security policy (endless whining) and expenditure of 800 million dollars. If I was going to choose someone to discuss these things with, it would surely be Sean Penn.
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/un-mediation-over-the-falklands/
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mediation ? By who ? Nassir Abdulaziz Al-Nasser who ?
i supose they could just pick up a nun by helicopter and her her to mediate, or else .
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Argentinas government as uts been demonstrating for years doesnt need money from anyone'
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlike the abandoned children in North Argentina cared for by Father Carlos Molina.
'my name is Sam' was a great movie, Superbe acting by Mr Sean for those of you who can't give credit where credit is due, if you never watched it, I recommend you rent it this weekend and snuggle with your special someone to share some humane thoughts, sure some freshly buttered popcorn and wine will surely get you laid, interesting to watch brits hung one of their own to dry for standing upright, I don't usually give much credit at actress/ors who get into politics, that would be like asking a carpenter to intall my plumbing or viseversa, but Seans has gotten into politics before and he got it right in two places, Iraq and Haiti
Feb 13th, 2012 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.wowzone.com/sean-penn.htm
www.1world1book.com/sean-penn-haiti-foundation.html
www.jphro.org/index.html
the comments being made about the actor can literally show the level of denial some people have, and the distance they are willing to go to inposse their will on others, I still wouldn't vote Sean as president, but I will certainly watch his next blockbuster and contribute to his cause, it's the least Argentine's can do in gratitude.
What does Sean Penn know about anything anyway? Why does he think that he should be the final arbiter over the lives of other people? Why does Sean Penn think that he is so important? Now I know why I have never liked him. Or movies “blessed” with his attendance. Sean Penn should stick to his day job and stop dabbling in things that he knows absolutely nothing about.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why does Haiti need an army? Who would want to invade it? Surely it would be in Haiti's best interests if they were occupied by foreigners. Cannot see many starters. Does Haiti want to invade its neighbours? Once again, Cristina Kirchner is clearly away with the fairies and is a real danger to herself, young argentines, her countries neighbours indeed a danger to the world.
39 Pirat-Hunter
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Last time you posted here you were calling on anglo's to be killed, even giving us examples in Argentina.
“Penn met Argentine president Cristina Kirchner in Buenos Aires and urged Britain to join United Nations-sponsored talks over what he called ”the Malvinas Islands of Argentina“.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0”It's necessary that these diplomatic talks happen between the United Kingdom and Argentina,“ he said. ”I think that the world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/10092182
15 O gaga
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a film all the nationalist children of Argentina should watch. It should be compulsory education in Argentine schools to learn about their country recent history, instead of teaching lies about the Falkland Islands (the imaginary Malvinas - which Argentina has NEVER had sovereignty over).
That something like this was allowed to happen is a crime against humanity, 50,000-100,000 raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and disappeared (Borges). Unborn babies ripped out of their mothers wombs, young children taken from their parents, who were murdered by the heroic Argentine military.
Anyone of you born in the 70's? I hope your lucky enough to know who your real parents are...
The Official Story / La historia official (1985)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LF5II0wIY
It's a film everyone should watch. Feel shame because the specter of fascism still grips Argentina and as Martino Moreno said “If publishing the truth is forbidden, then lies, ignorance and poverty will follow”.
Argentina's history is still being written by Moreno's assassins.
UK must understand that the colonialism must finish. This country must negotiate now.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 021 Grams. He directed the film and had a small part in it. A good film.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok .... so what Sean Penn just stated in front of the Argentina President to stop colonialism yet its in the CFK constitution for the present government to try claim the island, does that not count as colonialism. How much of the budget out of the treasury used just to get an actor who in fair is a well known figure to help good courses. I don't buy it ........ another attempt by the CFK government to find false hope and to me sounds like the UN approach did not work.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn, one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Telegraph
Tuesday 14 February 2012
“Sean Penn accuses Britain of 'colonialism' over Falklands”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9080473/Sean-Penn-accuses-Britain-of-colonialism-over-Falklands.html
47 Marcos Alejandro
Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Big deal he might be a influential person but is still only one person with one opinion like I said ! The UN complaint back fired so lets pay a hollywood star to HEY read a scrip and let the tax payers sort out his wage.
Great for Sean! And for the Haitian people that are represented by this man.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is also giving space for immigrants that come from a terrible situation in some Caribbean countries. Cooperation is working.
Unfortunately colonial powers' hunger for natural resources and military bases at strategic geo-political places like Malvinas is very hard to handle.
Democracy didn't want Vietnam War, but corporate media and a little group of right-winger warriors could influence more.
Democracy didn't want the workers paying the crisis Europe is going throug, but the corporate media and a little group of financial speculators COULD influence more...
Today more and more democratic voices see Colonialism in Malvinas, and for us, Latinamericans, colonialism and nuclear weapons in our continent is even worse.
At first they tried to show these supports like results of an aggressive pressure of Argentina in its foreign countries... Like if Argentina had the power to extort them. Now it is clear I think that the countries, presidents, and Multilateral International Organisms are supporting not because it is a FAIR CAUSE.
No matter what, people who understand that the presence of the UK in Malvinas is colonialism is the honest type of people, the people who represents democracy, human wrights, people that work for PEACE, who work for International Security...
@ 44 John Islanders don't want to be Argentine and have said as much for that reason UK will never negotiate soveriegnty of those Islands. If Islanders were to ask UK to negotiate things might change.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:16 am - Link - Report abuse 049 fermin (#) Yep totally agree with you about Sean Penn, shame he is being used by the CFK government with her desperation to hang onto some hope, If bullying the other SA countries dont work, complaining to the UN, Lets use Sean Penn to make countries feel sorry for us, even though you have a pretty big country compared to a little island who are just looking for peace.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presumably Sean also advocates the independence of Hawaii (annexed and invaded 1898), Puerto Rico (also invaded 1898), CA, NM,UT, NV,AZ & TX (all taken by force from Mexico in 1848) and the numerous other US colonies still in existence.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the height of Sean's acting career was when he played the motorcycle gang leader in Police Academy. Ever since then he's moved onto a political career that rivals that of Arnold himself.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr O'Gara: '”They still do somethings well...education isn't one of them...'''
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not yours, either.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ... I cant stop laughing at this one... What do you do when Ban K hasnt got time for you...Thats it, hire Sean Penn
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The mediocre Sean Peann has also been involved in issues concerning Venezuela going as far as supporting the regime!. He's clearly off his head and in desperate need of publicity. WHAT A CLOWN!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is getting more hilarious by the day. Falklanders should invite Sean Penn for a visit so that he can parade his ignorance around there.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0In another time I would advocate a boycott of his films, but seeing as I have seen none of them that would be somewhat counter productive method of protest, its quite funny watching the interview he made, he quite clearly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about :)
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is seriously funny, and a genuine PMSL moment for me.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The irony of a wife beater dabbling in international affairs a la Team America is almost too much to bear....
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/31/128962383616564243.jpg
Honestly, the naivety of these politicians. They turn themselves into a complete mockery so that they can be guyed by just random commenters, and then expect to be taken seriously by the UN.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I personally did laugh a lot at this article, t'was hilarity of the highest order.
I think Cameron should offer to take the case to the ICJ for a final legally binding judgement (AGAIN!!)
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0It might take the wind out of the fried chicken's sails for a while.
One assumes she would refuse.
Shorn who ?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@62 He's Hugo Chavez's useful idiot ... comes out with statements aligned with Argentinian Human Rights and free speech policy (http://news.investors.com/Article/595871/201112231844/argentina-newsprint-nationalization-hurts-freedom.htm), such as 'journalists who call Hugo Chavez a dictator should be jailed' (http://news.investors.com/Article/595871/201112231844/argentina-newsprint-nationalization-hurts-freedom.htm),
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that Argsoc and KFC have an alignment with some troubling south american pseudo-dictatorships and their figurehead is a guy who thinks free-speech should lead to being jailed, outlines clearly why the Falkland Islanders should be protected 'robustly'.
I would not call Hugo Chavez a dictator far from it, in fact he is a very intelligent man, but has been known to push for a percentage of oil from some independent islands which surround his country ! so there is debate to whether he is holding his cards close to his chest, waiting for the outcome of the sovereignty of the Falklands to then maybe take action of the islands in a similar radius .... again more reason for democracy to stop bigger countries bullying of smaller islands.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Team America, World Police
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn: Last year I went to Iraq. Before Team America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.
@33 For the sake of Melvin, if he can read more than one article a day, this is how to quote something not written by oneself.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“After the 2010 Haiti earthquake, Sean Penn co-founded the J/P Haitian Relief Organization and has been running a 55,000 person tent camp.
Due to his visibility as an on-the-ground advocate for rescue and aid efforts in the aftermath, Penn was designated by president Michel Martelly as Ambassador-at-Large for Haiti, the first time that a non-Haitian citizen has been designated as such in the country's history. Penn received the designation on January 31, 2012.”
Note the QUOTATION marks.
So, no, Audi. He isn't a representative for the people of the USA. He's a “representative” for a country that is worse off NOW than before more than $4.5 billion in aid was offered.
@39 Don't be silly. I looked up his “filmography”. Never heard of any of them.
@42 ”It's necessary that these diplomatic talks happen between the United Kingdom and Argentina,“ he said. ”I think that the world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology.”
So argieland's ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology by seeking sovereignty over Islands over which it has never had sovereignty is not going to be tolerated. Isn't this what we've been saying?
@44 So sod off!
@49 Yeah, such a great job he does. Still more than 1 million living in tents, 98% of rubble uncleared with bodies still in place and at least 3,333 deaths SINCE the earthquake. Go for it, PENNy!
Chris: Jesus tittyfucking Christ dude, i could have sworn she was telling the truth!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gary Johnston: That's why they call it acting.
Sean Penn says, “the world today cannot tolerate ridiculous demonstrations of colonialism” and so if i'm not mistaken, even Sean Penn is telling the Argentinians to stop shooting their indigenous population, and quit invading Chilean islands.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn has contributed one thing to humanity - Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Other than that, the dude's a total tool.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha O have not laughed so much since I head the joke about how many Argentinians does it take to change a light bulb. Who the fuck is this Muppet when he is at home? Some two bit actor who the lobotomised bitch has found to spout the lies that her government spread about the Falkland's and Britain. Just think another insignificant actor thirty years ago disagreed with what Argentina did and could not do enough for Maggie in the few months it took to kick the thieving bastards of the Islands. But there again that insignificant actor had by then become the most powerful man in the world something that this wanker could only dream of being. Sean Penn what a Muppet to be associated with this bitch, he must be desperate for publicity perhaps he is going to make some type of B movie on how Argentina won the war in 1982 and kicked the arses of the British, after all we all know that Hollywood actors live in a fantasy world don't we.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 To be fair, Judge Reinhold was in it too and he gave us Beverly Hills Cop 1, 2 and 3
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But let's be honest, Phoebe Cates at the pool....good Lord.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72 a lot of people around the world were probably having the same thought.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69
Feb 14th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and he dated Scarlett Johansson .... :-)
@74 Is that something she's taken out a football pleb-god super-super-super injunction in order to avoid people knowing?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what Paris Hilton has to say on this topic? This debate cannot possibly move forward before we've canvassed her views.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did find this which was quite amusing (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news-in-pictures/news-briefly/argentina-supported-by-former-%27friends%27-guest-star-201202144895/)
Feb 14th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ O gaga
Feb 14th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Sean Penn wants to give lectures on colonialism he should start by visiting his own countries Indian reservations, travel to Puerto Rico and end up with Iraq. Then at least he would be able to lecture his own country first. Alternatively he would do better to stick with something he knows more about. Handing over the Falkland Islands, or invading them, against the wishes of the islands population... well that really would be colonialism.
Rammstein Amerika - Sean Penn very good
Feb 14th, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CLyrHx85o8&feature=fvst
35 GreekYoghurt (#)
Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 He's the Ambassador of Haiti, not USA.
Thanks for the update. I'm sure the good people of Haiti, who have suffered so much at the hands of their 'rulers' over many decades are really happy for this actor to represent them to another regime that had its own version of Papa Doc !! I'm sure they will be grateful :)
Sean Penn is an idiot. He supports Hugo Chavez, Cuba and Iran and is now having a liberal fit of mock-outrage
Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Against the British yet this same idiot opposes the return of United States territory to Mexico,
But to be fair, mr Penn is just doing what all bad actors do, and read the script,,
But back on track, apparently CFK has advertised in the worlds press, looking for any washed up actors / singers / and anyone that used to be anyone, who is down on their luck, and wishes to earn a couple of quid, by supporting Argentina and insulting the brits,
At the moment they have 3 applicants at a million a time, but wont discuses who they are for security reasons .
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Who even cares what Sean Penn says? I don't, he doesn't have the slightest bit of power in the world. Yeah he's done a few ok movies(usually as a supporting role), i respect that. But he's no politician, and definitely no intellectual. More of a misguided moron than anything.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If we did everything celebrities said, we'd all be scientologists by now and worship the work of a science fiction writer.
To all the Malvinistas,
Feb 14th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain wont give up the Malvinas. They cant afford to. When Scotland chooses independance they will not only loose 30% of their territory but even worse they will loose 90 % of their oil reserves. See - they need the Malvinas oil in a desperate attempt to cling to historic grandeur. The Empire is in its death throes. Any way I wouldnt blockade the Malvinas, on the contrary I would establish trade and cultural links. Then slowly introduce the best looking Argentine men and ladies plus Tango to the ugly Falckland society.Nature will take its course. In 2 or 3 generations the Islands will be Argentine and much better looking plus by that time the Malvinas will own (with oil wealth) the much reduced and poverty stricken English Islands. That is if it is not called Anglostan by then. In that case just keep the Malvinas and forget about the English Islands
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Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0another dogs breath, soddy off .
He is a has-been. She will shortly be a has-been. Been there and done - nothing!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps, if she is lucky he will 'give her one'
Oh, the thought is just too much!
@85 Apparently she has a man already and has had for years.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rather old chap - a dogs breath, than a fat Guiness farting banger and mash eating - Enghluish min.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn also supports Iran. Another country known for its backward ways, idiotic politicians and hilariously pathetic loyal citizens under a fascist regime!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hollywood and politics do not go together!
I would say he is right, there should be more dialogue.
The UK should tell Argentina to “GET F**KED”, and that be the end of the conversation!
@87 It's kind of weird that you're saying that you wouldn't have chosen a trade blockade on the Falklands, the government has created a trade blockade on the Falklands, and your Argsoc government is saying that they've not created a trade blockade on the Falklands.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like seriously do you Argentinains not have a word for hypocrisy?
BREAKING NEWS
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn will adopt 3000 Falkland Islanders that have been evicted from their homes! His huge mansion will accomodate them all!!
Sean you absolute tool! Stick to trying to act and subjects you know about, it's so cringeworthy when hollywood actors get too big for their boots and join political crusades. Why don't you push for talks for the USA to give sovereignty back to the native americans? Because the Americans don't want to? Same as the falklanders don't want to be anything but British! Dumb hypocrite! The whole argument by Sean Penn and the Argentinians is totally hypocritical!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@87 Guinness is what the Irish drink, not the English. If you're going to insult us at least try to get it right, else you look a bit stupid. Also your 'facts' on the north sea oil are misinformed, although i can't really be bothered to explain our economy to a degenerate like yourself.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@88 Yeah i think that's pretty much how its gone so far! Got a lot of new found respect for Mr. Cameron over this issue, as he's taken a firm stance.
new biscuit? Bottled water?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So interesting that you desperately have to believe that Scotland will leave the UK. No doubt you have got this impression from your close up, on-the-spot observations...........NOT. Also interesting that you think Britain would lose 90% of her oil reserves. Now let's try some facts. A large proportion of the oil reserves in the North Sea are not in putative Scottish waters. “King” Salmond (as he is known) likes to tell Scottish people this. Doesn't make it true. Try these little thoughts. Scotland will have no air force and no navy. How would Scotland protect said oil reserves against nasty remaining UK that has both? Argies will understand the next mathematical expression. Scotland = 5 million population. England plus = 57 million population. In other words, Scotland will get precisely what England is prepared to give it. Otherwise known as not much. Now a little calculation shows us in England that if Scotland departs we will save £118 million PER DAY in public expenditure for Scotland. Then there is a body of opinion that says that, if Scotland becomes independent, the whole of the UK will be out of the EU. “King” Salmond wants to be a member. The English people don't! So England can save another £50 million PER DAY. Meanwhile, Scotland can apply to join, but England won't. Putting a powerful non-EU country between Scotland and its EU pals. A non-EU country with no intention of letting Scottish imports/exports travel through its territory. Have you asked yourself where countries without oil reserves get their oil? Do they buy it? Have you been listening to CFK? Do you think her ideas of how things SHOULD work out, or yours, have any relevance? Here's a tip. Match 2,000 years of BRITISH history against less than 200 years for argieland. England is so far beyond you SA countries. You may get where we are in another 1800 years. Losers!
“... meanwhile at the Disingenuous Awards 2012, the male and female winners share a few private jokes”
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a caption competition, right?
Yes it is a caption competition.... “Sean Penn is surprised and impressed to find new Madame Tussauds model talks and walks, but still claims it's not life-like enough”.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 087 Pedro= Enghluish min=English man.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep it up . old chap.lol.
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@95 I'm going with..
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Mills & Boon release the cover to their latest novel entitled 'Take me, break me'”
christ he looks a bit like Hitler in that photo! you're such a plank Sean, who cares what he thinks, he likes beating women up so anyone who respects his opinion is a loser! in my humble opinion!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn!!...ha, fucking ha. I nearly pissed myself laughing when I heard about this.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@98 Ah, another great caption ...
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you think she'll mind if I just give her a few slaps”
Sean Penn on democracy = give the Malvinas Islands back to the Argentines!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 01. No such place as “the Malvinas Islands” apart from in the imagination of the Argentine government and a few left wing MORONS who haven't a clue.
2. Cannot give back something to which it has never belonged.
3. Argentina is ruled by a Dynasty re-enactment of the Perons, who have adopted the national socialist (corporatist) policies of Peronism (Fascism) - own goal Mr Penn!
4. Perhaps someone would like to give us, the Falkland Islanders a say in our own sovereignty? What we call our islands, what government we wish to live under and what language we wish to speak.
God knows the Argentines don't want us to have a say. Many of the Argies on here keep reminding us they don't want us (the people), only the islands. We know none of us would be here now had it not been for the response of Britain in 1982. A lot of people would have been murdered and those who survived would have left. They killed many of their own people, they wouldn't have thought twice about killing our.
Just look at how rabid they are now over us, even the soldiers who never got sent to war want a war medal for fighting a non existent enemy, they want that medal so bad they riot over getting it.
I'm lucky, I was born after the war. But I plan to join the Defence Force as soon as I can. I don't want a medal and I don't want a war. But equally, I'm not going to be forced under any jackboot, least of all an Argentine one because we know only too well how deranged they are in their wish to dominate the region.
My hero's are Violat Sazbo and Odette Hallowes, they fought for freedom and democracy, what did the Argies fight for in 82? Oppression, subjugation and fascism. You would have thought we'd moved on but my generation is ready, just as past generations were ready. We will always be ready, it's in the British character, we can not be broken, we never have been, we never will be.
Suzy
Well Done Suzy. Didn't the argentines take Major patricio dowling, an obnoxious bullying secret argentine policeman to the Falklands on their ill-considered and failed invasion?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I recall that dowling “played” russian roulette with an imprisoned farmer, clicking a pistol at the back of his head. Given that the farmer was handcuffed at the time, this wasn't that brave of the obnoxious dowling. The only contribution argentina has ever made to “freedom” was to anchor the southern end of the ”rat-line, providing cover, refuge, darkness, anonymity and safety for nazi's fleeing justice after WW2.
I believe that many Falkland families have been living on the Falklands for up to 10 generations. That they do not want a bar of argentina should be the end of the matter.
Sean Penn just wants to bring attention to himself by supporting something controversial and tying to seem as though he knows what he’s talking about, which of course he never does, he’s so bigoted that he probably thinks the Islanders are imprisoned Argentinians.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0He keeps proclaiming his support for dictatorships and bigoted regimes, showing either he will do anything to advertise himself and/or probably he feels at home with them
He married Madonna to raise his profile, that failed, so has his last one, his acting is stereotyped as violent or pathetic or both, not that seen any of them, other than trailers that put me off wanting to see any of them, now I know why.
Argentina you can have him, see how long that lasts
Some great posts and some welcome humour at the expense of this brainless twerp. Just pleased he didn't support us !!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0l never liked Sean Penn anyway.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now l like him even less.
@101 Suzy,
You gladden my heart, cheri.
About Violette & Odette.
Do not forget Nancy Wake, the “White Mouse”
Excellent reading.
@102 Russian-roulette with a handcuffed farmer.... winning the hearts and minds there then.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was Major Patricio Dowling's previous name Herr Otto Flick?
Viva Sean Penn =) Married to Madonna, now friends with Cristina, this man certainly has a good taste in women =)
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And he's certainly got some, I imagine less dashing, men hot and bothered here!
In fact theres so many canards on this thread I can't respond to them all, so I'll stick to #40. The fact is that the last time haiti was occupied (by the US, for 20 years up to the 1930s) an army was left behind trained by the occupying power to become the mainstay of repression for the rest of the century, propping up Papa and Baby Doc and providing many dictators of its own, culminating in a vicious junta in 1991-94. The UN occupation of Haiti should end and the current (very unimpressive and barely elected) President Martelly wants an army, so the more input Argentina under its human rights oriented, junta jailing government can give to that process the better
@107 I'm not sure what your subjective definition of Argentinian “human-rights” is. However, the restrictions on the press and the reports by Amnesty International of indigenous killings seems to paint a pretty bleak picture.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@106 - There was a lot of Herr Otto Flick's sort that escaped Europe and went to live in Argentina after WWII. CFK looks like she could be somehow related to Flick!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was a lot of Herr Otto Flick's sort that escaped Europe and went to live in Argentina after WWII..... you need to mention also Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brasil
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0which by the way, Can we get Clint Eastwood instead? to speak on our behalf ? :-)
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@111 What about Brian Blessed?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@112 Sure !!!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ideally, I would like Charlton Heston, Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas, all bad asses !! :-)
@113 what about famous ex-Doctor Who, Tom Baker.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/feb/05/scottish-independence-alex-salmond-world-economy?newsfeed=true
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yupitty,yupitty doo - England's in the poo. Read the part about the Geneva convention stipulation.
Guiness is Irish beer drunk by Engluish min because English beer tastes like a blend of bladder juice and sewerage water.
@Pedro. No one in the UK frankly gives a hoot about scottish independence. If they want to leave, then that's fine (we'll send all the civil service jobs to the North of England and Wales), and if they choose not to leave, then that's also fine.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK wants a referendum next week, Scotland wants a referendum in 2024, so you cannot accuse us of being undemocratic. Oh wait, you don't know what a referendum is, because you don't recognise the views of the local population in Nazigentina (self determination).
Sean Penn , he to wants something he cannot have,
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Cristina copied Madonna’s famous saying,
You keep you dick in your pants,
And I will keep my tongue in my mouth?/
Got it ??
@115
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you really want British, I would say Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris and probably the best on Sir Anthony Hopkins
Greek yoghurt - Typical English lie - Its all over all your papers 2014 not 2024 - Now thats the truth about what the Scots want. As for Cameron wanting it now. Of course - Europe is in shit. Waiting two years might just make it more attractive to the Scots as Europe recovers. By the way Im not Argentine so your little referendum quip is invalid. The Uk is famous for not holding referendums when they promised they would.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yupitty, yupitty doo the English is in the poo. Sad how you cannot see the slide into oblivion. If you could you would have had the opportunity to counter it. But tally ho and what not - onwards chaps!
@ 119 Pedro - “By the way Im not Argentine”
Feb 15th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well you seem as dim, childish and bigoted as an Argentinian.
119
Feb 15th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0scotland is going nowhere,
but argentina maybe .,
Oh well Mr Penn - its a FAG world (Film Actors Guild).
Feb 15th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is he going to North Korea so that the great successor can blow up all the worlds leaders in a peace conference?
Or has he finally figured out that the plot of Team America was fiction, and not a action plan for destroying “enemies of peace”.
The man is a total imbecile.
@ pedro -I personally never buy anything Argentine on principal. I won't give your country a penny. I'm gald you don't like English beer - more for decent human beings to drink, I'm off to have a nice bottle of Bombardier Bitter now...
most actors go to exotic places, sun sand sea sxx,
Feb 15th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0who goes to north korea,??
@119 Pedro - “ Guiness is Irish beer drunk by Engluish min because English beer tastes like a blend of bladder juice and sewerage water ”
Feb 16th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Irish in England drink all the Guiness and the reason you don't like English beer is because you're such an obnoxious git, whoever serves or sells it to you, urinates in it first, thinking you will feel more at home
@123 If he goes to North Korea he might get a go with Kim Jong-Il's Mansion House Dancing Girls. These are all of an unsuitable age for any grown man, and also apparently do something called the 'Human Bed' where I guess they interlock together a bit like the Constructicons Transformer toys from Hasbro.
Feb 16th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Mr. Penn-
Feb 16th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Possibly he lost the support of 2000 islanders in the South Atlantic.
Possibly the young womens in islands down or ban their posters of the wall.
You have not blue eyes: now you have red one´s:D
Your movies and your awards as actorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Penn are refuse in the land of colonialism...maybe even in St. Helena or the other 10 colonies of UK around the world.
Sean quedate con nosotros, los latinoamericanos que creemos que el colonialismo es una lacra de tiempos pasados y que el mundo, sin él, es un mundo mejor-
Regards-
@126 His movies and awards aren't refused in the land of colonialism because they love his movies in Argentina.
Feb 16th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn's latest Movie, “Give back Argentina to the Indigenous Population” is a cheery tale about an indigenous leader who gets shot by a mining company in Patagonia. It's really heart warming when his final words are '..colonialism, end it now' and then all the Argentinians return to Nazi-germany and Mussolini's Italy from where they came. The final scene is of Chile accepting the land back that was stolen from them in the Beagle conflict.
It's definitely worthy of an oscar.
For a fool who's property was built on Indian lands,
Feb 16th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hypocrite springs to mind .
@128 Birds of a feather.
Feb 16th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@126 Rosarino - “ Possibly he lost the support of 2000 islanders in the South Atlantic ”.
Feb 16th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And most of the civilised world, but I now see Sean Penn is stringing out his self-promotion, by saying the deployment of a search and rescue pilot is upsetting to mothers of the bereaved, no he’s upsetting the mothers of the bereaved with his tasteless attention seeking
I have to wonder what cocaine head awarded him an Oscar, but it wasn’t for brainpower as his screenwriting efforts where berated, he just mouths someone else’s words, , anyway by having to appeal to the likes of bankrupt squalid countries Argentina and North Korea he is probably trying to find somewhere that might actually like a twisted little prick.
Perhaps Sean Penn is doing a voice over for “Team ALBA” a new puppet movie in which Team ALBA - a crack group of super soldiers destroy the western powers so that socialism can triumph, Venzualea can annex the territories it wants and Argentina can invade the Falklands.
Feb 17th, 2012 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if the Chavez puppet will sing “I'm so lonlely” or the CFK one will sing “don't cry for me Argentina”?
malvinistas look more pathetic every day,
Feb 17th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0they don't like the NO word.
sean penn IS pathetic
Well done all, great fun !! Next thing you know CFK will be whistling up all the great denizens of the free world to support her in the C24 - Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, Russia.............Hahahahahahahaha.
Feb 17th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go CFK, you are doing a great job from my perspective.
Okay,lets put it to the vote, not just by FI''s but by all sensible and i stress sensible people. Under which form of goverment would you prefer to live?
Feb 17th, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A, Argentinian, a neofacsist government, democratic for now, corrupt. renown for being an haven for some of histories most dispicable people (nazis) and making 30,000 of is own people disappear (murdered).
B, Britian, Magna Carta, democratic for centuries, freedom of speech, free universal healthcare, free education, welfare, bobbies (not secret police), free press, freedom from fear etc, etc, ect, etc,etc, etc.
Democracy in action, please indicate which system you would prefer to live under?
Then perhaps you might go some way to understanding why the FI's make the choice they do. Not hard is it?
B
Feb 17th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(I think I can safely answer for 99.999% of 60 million people in the UK, but I can't speak for the other 0.001% deranged Sean Penn type)
#134 Or you could say:
Feb 17th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A. Argentina, where the people who murdered their citizens have been brought to justice, the international financial interests and local oligarchs they served have been successfully defied, and a radiant progressive president works tirelessly for the people
B. Britan, where Tony Blair, killer of a million Iraqis remains at large and the current government is making the poor pay for the bankers' crisis.
Actually theres good and bad, progressive and reactionary forces, in all countries. Its just that in Argentina (and most of Latin America) the progressive, pro-people forces are currently winning, while in Britain we remain, like in most countries, run by craven servants of capital.
136 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 17th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although I live in Uruguay, which unfortunately has the Munster state across The Plate, I still pay taxes in Britain.
As you are a Marxist-Leninist Scot spending my money why don't you move to Argentina: they welcome all kinds of scum (even Sean Penn, the wife beater) so you should fit right in.
At least you would be able to speak with experience instead of the drivel you presently spout.
But I bet you won't will you? Even the likes of you are not that stupid.
and why did British_Kirchnerist murder millions of inocent people,
Feb 17th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you deny this , can you prove you did not do it,
no british minister has killed anyone
but argentine goverments have killed hundreds of thousands [have they not]
hush,.
@136 British Kirchenist
Feb 17th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are British and a scot, you're a sad apology for either.
You are siumply a “useful idiot” as the Soviets used to say.
I bet you agreed with Gallaway when he praised Sadam Hussien “I still meet families who are calling their newborn sons Saddam. Sir, I salute your courage, your strength your indefatigability. And I want you to know that we are with you until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem” .
Saddam - a genocidal murderer - I'm glad he did the hangmans' jig.
I also bet you were gutted when the Soviet Union collapsed (a sick tyranny with a huge arsenal aimed at us). I am glad the Soviet Union collpased due to economic incompetence and imperial overstretch.
What would you do if you had to watch the Argentinians occuoy the islands - then evict a considerable number of them for failing to cooperate? Would it gladden your heart to see Your own kind homeless?
Young Suzy on these forums (who live in the Falklands and whom you are trying to sell out to occupation or expulsion) is worth 10 of you.
@136 British_Kirchnerist - “a radiant progressive president works tirelessly for the people”
Feb 17th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I that why Argentina is bankrupt, it's current inflation rate of 26% is set to increase, that their public transport is shambolic and has just doubled its fares, the price of utilities (electricity water etc.) is going to rise four-fold, their rubbish isn’t getting collected, their road are falling to pieces, they already have squalid ghettoes and insanitary shanty towns which are set to get very much worse.
p.s. There are some clever Scots and there are some bitter twisted dreamer Scots like you, I would like to see each county in Scotland given the choice of staying or being part of an independent Scotland, so the dick head counties like your's can be the laughing stock Europe and that I can see you going down drain where you belong
I can never understand why some people that demand the right of freedom, then refuses that right to others ..
Feb 17th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@141 it's a Scottish thing. More reason to get rid.
Feb 17th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@136 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 17th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ while in Britain we remain, like in most countries, run by craven servants of capital.”
That's pretty rich coming from a Scot, it's the Royal bank of Scotland and the Bank of Scotland that have caused by far the most debt that everybody in Britain has to now cope with. And Scotland at the time was predominately Labour who allowed it to happen
@143 Tony 'Catholic' Blair (Scottish, born in Scotland), Gordon 'Gold Seller' Brown (Scottish, born in Scotland), Alistair 'Economic Disaster' Darling (Scottish, born in Scotland), Alistair 'Spin Spin Spin' Campbell (Scottish, parents are Scottish), David 'Murdoch's Pocket' Cameron (Scottish family), Fred 'Bonus for Failure' Goodwin (Scottish, born in Scotland)....
Feb 17th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm...Soon to be independent craven servants of Rupert Murdoch and Capital.
We wish to remain united, but there are some silly Scots who are a lemon [bitter]
Feb 17th, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An interesting notes,
Mr salmon,[theory] we don’t want to be run by an English government,
Fact, the UK has never had a purely English government,
But it has had
1 British governments
2, welsh government
3, Scottish government
This is the inner government or [the cabinet]
So in fact, Scotland has never been ruled by an English government,
But
England, has been ruled by an Scottish government,
Am I right ?
Amazing facts don’t you think .
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@145 Whenever I discuss this with Scots and I always tell them I cannot wait for their independence, because when they're no longer in the EU, their new passports are invalid for EU working rights, therefore they have to go up to Aberdeen or Ballykindoodleshire to find a job chasing pheasants. For some reason this makes them look like I've just skinned their dog, and they don't seem very happy about their independent future.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair, they'll just end up like Ireland, where they just build houses for no-one because that's all they know what to do, and some of them Scotts will probably try to get over the fence back into the rUK in order to find non-chip shop based work.
Some one suggested by country only, but the fishmonger wont go for that one, but he should consider it, [maxo devo] is not on,
Feb 18th, 2012 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0But another interesting fact,
He once said the following,
Why should we be ruled by a English government 600 miles away, what do they know of Scotland,
[Interpreted legally as][Why are we being ruled by a freely elected British government 600 miles away?][That we Scots also freely voted for]/////////////
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And what he failed to tell his brethering since then, even today,
He will take the mighty Scotland into an organisation that is truly Unelected 1,000 miles away, that Scotland or us, did not and cannot vote for,
The fundamental aim of European union , is to be, a united states of Europe based on a very loose configuration based on the American ideal of states, governors and a president,
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I have heard it said that losing the Battle of Culloden was one of the best things that ever happened to Scotland. I don't know? Any thoughts?
Feb 18th, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@51 Mrlayback: What?? CFK is desperation?? What desperation? Her Government is supported by argentinians and Southamerican countries, specially Brazil, haven't you seen Lula Da Silva saying “I wish I were argentinian to be able to vote for Cristina”?
Feb 18th, 2012 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0How can she be desperate about Malvinas... Argentina has lived almost its whole history claiming for them... it is nothing new... No desperation, just a CONSTANT and PEACEFUL CLAIM....
And GET REAL, Sean Penn is not being used, what you call BEING USED is called POLITICS, and that's the way it works.
The ones being used are the kelpers, do you think they are the real owners of the islands? The islands are told to be Her Magesty's territory by the English...
The UK Government is the one not being honest to the world and to its own people...
@149 “No desperation, just a CONSTANT and PEACEFUL CLAIM”
Feb 18th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@149 What's peaceful about trying to steal someone else's land and home?
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@149 fermin -” CFK is desperation?? What desperation?
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0What desperation???? desperate to keep simple minded people like you from dwelling on the fact that Argentina is bankrupt, it's current inflation rate of 26% is set to increase, their public transport is shambolic and has just doubled its fares, the price of utilities (electricity water etc.) is going to rise four-fold, their rubbish isn’t getting collected, their road are falling to pieces, they already have squalid ghettoes and insanitary shanty towns which are set to get very much worse and you will be staving soon.
@149 fermin - “ Sean Penn is not being used, what you call BEING USED is called POLITICS, and that's the way it works ”
Then what you call POLITICS is just to keep people's mind off what is really important
As for being used - the trollop and perverse Penn are just using each other to seek attention, can't you see that?
The support of the rest of South America is mostly euphoric illusion, as they just can’t be bothered to argue with such fanatics
@152 What you're discussing is just the outcome of a strict adherence to Kerchnerism (neo-Peronism). One of it's key pillars is the subjugation of thought of the nations proletariat to the demands of the ruling elite. That's why there's so much historical revisionism and lack of objectice facts associated with their claims to sovereignty and inflation figures.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0l nearly fell off my chair laughing when fermin mentioned a “PEACEFUL” claim. ha ha ha!
Feb 18th, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're only “peaceful” because militarily you have no hope of invading at the present.
lf you had a capable & well armed military, you would be here in the blink of an eye.
Untrustworthy scumbags, ALL you malvinistas.
@154 People in 'glassed' shouldn't be able to throw stones.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@155 GreekYoghurt
Feb 18th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“@154 People in 'glassed' shouldn't be able to throw stones”
Uhhhhhh ????
@156 People in 'glassed' HOUSES shouldn't be able to throw stones. I bastardised the phrase 'people in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones' and made it more about thermonuclear conflict. Then I accidentally edited out the 'House' part and no one understood it.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scots independence - well we are'nt there yet. I have to say that a lot of the complaining from scots about whitehall is a bit rich, being as so many in the cabinet and indeed PMs have come from there as GreekYoghurt pointed out.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, being a democracy we must respect there wish for a referendum, then carry on with our lives when it is done and dusted. I hope they don't go indpendent, I think both nations would suffer as a result, and I for one would never want to go there on holiday again.
@158 Gosh, don't go to Scotland on holiday. You just have one after another of the locals telling you how much they hate the English.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least they'll not have a problem finding volunteers for the Hadrians wall rebuild in 2015.
I hope they don't go independent - to me its a step in the wrong direction. We're definitely stronger together, we have lots of power in the world still. If we split, how do we break up a permanent seat in the un security council? How do we split our nuclear deterrent? Our economy?
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alex Salmond is selling the idea that London pushes the Scots round, and that they'll all be rolling in oil money if they're independent. The more stupid are probably buying into the idea, and dreaming of them all driving round in big sports cars and owning big houses. Nothing could be further from the truth.
We all get pushed round by whoever is in power in London, that's nothing new. We elect them. And the oil won't affect the general public, only the super rich as usual. And what will Scotland do when the oil runs out?
As for Scotland joining Europe? They can't be serious. They'd rather be ruled by an unelected party than someone from Britain?
Lastly, they should realize they already have it better than us English. Which i don't think is fair. Free education and prescriptions, whereas i have to pay for mine. Not fair at all.
We wouldn't have to split a seat on the UN security council. We wouldn't have to split the nuclear deterrent. We wouldn't have to split the economy either. rUK continues to exist, just without Scotland leaves it, with it's own economy. We would have to agree the split in the debt and messily split the government bonds. That's the most difficult part.
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rUK would renegotiate with Europe if necessary and Scotland would have to enter into negotiations on entry probably prioritised after Turkey et al.
rUK would have no obligation to provide work visas to Scottish employees because of it's lack of membership into Europe, impacting on the job status of Scottish passport holders, so I guess most Scotts would still retain british citizenship. Scotland's economy (oil-gas) is a one-trick pony similar to that of Ireland (builiding) or Iceland (fishing), they're not diversified at all. They'd probably end up in Germany's pocket after a while and spend their time complaining about that instead.
Whatever happens, it'll involve failure, moaning, and blaming others for the failure.
if you look closley,
Feb 18th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think you willfind that the oil wells are not even in scottish waters .??
@162 they might be in Russian waters soon.. (http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_02_17/66271273/) Soviet Falklands. Soviet Scotland.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think Scotland has the same right to self-determination that you claim to the Falklands. Above say that the Scottish oil only benefit the rich and Scotland, and in the Falklands is different? All this stupid noise from Mr Cameron on the Falklands is to hide the fact that Scotland prefer to make your own way. He already found where to get the oil they will lack. But if Scotland fails, the Falklands will fall back into oblivion. Remember that.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@164 feeble attempt by argie child-men to appeal to the scottish masses, by pretending to be R. Macintyre whilst also showing a very low command of basic grammar.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“if Scotland fails, the Falklands will fall back into oblivion.” >> hmm.. that forgotten link between Scotland and Falklands.
@164 No shit, Sherlock. The Scottish do have that right, which is why they're holding a referendum to decide whether they want to stay in the UK. Please read some facts before commenting in future.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how this has turned into the anti-Scottish thread, and I don't even support Salmond! Galloway on the other hand is a great Scotsman who I do respect and support, he was one of the very few British opponents of Saddam when he was our ally. What he said at #139 was factually true, I myself had a family member who went to school with a boy called Saddam born in 1991. He said it when trying to lift sanctions that killed a million Iraqis (before the million killed in the war), one of his greatest humanitarian campaigns.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talking of George, watch him here on British satire show 10 o'clock live, defending his friend Sean Penn and opposing colonialism, at around 30 minutes in (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/10-oclock-live/4od#3289146).
Like all right minded men he calls Cristina “delectable” and “lovely” =)
Also watch out for a great rap about our gutter Sun newspaper at 7:30 mins in (relevant perhaps to supporters of Clarin) and for laughs a section on Britains unsexy sexiest MPs at 22:30 mins in.
Finally would just like to say happy birthday to the delectable, lovely, beautiful, radiant Cristina =)
@167 Okay, I'll watch it later Mr O. Mosely.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't know if you mean me or Galloway, but either way its a disgusting insult, the opposite of the truth. Mosley was a fascist who scapegoated the Jews for cheap political points, Galloway and others in the anti-war movement (like me) defend the Muslim community from the same kind of witch hunt today
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@169 Mosely was the leader of the “British Union of Fascists and National Socialists” or the Happy Club as he called it. Hitler's political affiliation was Nationalsozialismus or National Socialism or Nazism as it was effectionately called. Both Peronism and Neo-peronism (Kirchnerism) are Nationalistic Socialistic movements that all share Authoritarianism with the previous two. Peron's ideology was frequently aligned with Mussolini's fascism and referred to as having deep similarities with the ideologies of Hitler. You refer to yourself as a British Kirchnerist and yet get offended to find that you're a Nazi. Please read more books.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bearing this in mind, also remember “Justa bella quibus necessaria”.
To markd: Tell me something I do not know, or give me your opinion of what you see, you keep throwing smoke bombs, their 5 minutes of fame pass, and Scotia prevail. Stop insulting those who do not agree with your point of view.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Visit http://www.freescotland.com/virtind.html and learn more. Regards. End of my participation here.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on whether Cristina (like me!) is a Nazi then, and see which of us looks sane to unbiased observers =)
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@172 There's nothing to disagree about. You're a Nazi and that's a fact. The fact you don't have the mental acuity to know that Kirchnerism is National Socialism is Nazism.. is not an issue that I can resolve.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your sounding like a nutcase man
Feb 19th, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@163
Feb 19th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps if CFK thought for a minute that she could get the Russians on side, she would jump at it,
Not realising, that all she would be doing, is jumping from the frying pan, straight into the red, fire .lol.
164 rmacintire
Way out of your league my friend, stick to Argentina
. 167 British_Kirchnerist (
Funny how this has turned into the anti-Scottish
[][ no anti scotti, this is a British problem, and will be dealt with by the British,,
Nothing to do with Argentina, ..
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@174 I'd rather be a logical nutcase than a cowardly Nazi in denial who doesn't even have the balls to live under the political regime to which he espouses.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These ad hominem attacks on weak minded folk are quite good fun.
I have the balls NOT to live under the best President in the world, the sublime Cristina, and instead continue to campaign here against the archaic and ridiculous British government
Feb 19th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@177 Hmm, I love the smell of psychological denial in the morning.
Feb 19th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“At least the British gave to the world, whereas the Argies did naught but take.”, A Very Wise Man (2002)
@172 British_Kirchnerist “ see which of us looks sane to unbiased observers ”
Feb 19th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you kidding? someone as biased as you can't possibly seem sane to the unbiased
@174 British_Kirchnerist “ Your sounding like a nutcase man ”
Whereas GreekYoghurt gives you reasoning arguments, you seem more like a NUTCASE or as I see it, both you and Galloway are fantasists, he spins them and you indulge in them, probably as a way of explaining why the world hates you.
Also people like him are articulating people’s discontent under the guise of championing for a perfect world, but are just using you for their own ends.
@177 British_Kirchnerist “continue to campaign here against the archaic and ridiculous British government ”
And the reason the thread got side tracked on Scottish independence is no one likes a traitor.
BUT YOU CONSTANTLY SKIP the fact that Argentina is falling apart and it’s no one else's fault but their own, yes no one else’s, just their own.
@171 rmacintire “Stop insulting those who do not agree with your point of view”
Pointing out the flaws in your reasoning isn’t insulting and Salmond is also a fantasist, a very artful one, more like the pied piper leading Scotland to drown and of course you support the Muslim community, they have the most to gain with the breakup of the UK, if you hadn't got head stuck up Galloway'e arse you could see that.
Sigh... more and more emotional comments from those who can not use logic and reason. They know we're right in what we're saying, that's evident. But like any fool, they'll continue to argue and defend their position, not realizing the graves they've dug themselves. We can't win this argument!
Feb 19th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@171 Good riddance, thanks for leaving this discussion. I have no wish to converse with a moron.
@177 Just shut up. Even better, go and live in Argentina, then tell us how great it is, you scummy tree hugging traitor.
@177 British_Kirchnerist,
Feb 19th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l guess we'll have to forgive your ramblings as it seems that you are deeply in love with Cristina.
Why don't you propose? She's single now.
@181 I think British Kirchnerist is a lady, so it's more of a girlmance (opposite of bromance?) thing going on there. Whatever it is, she's not got the kahunas to leave her basement and go to Argieland, and that's a FACT.
Feb 20th, 2012 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@179 Redcoat - British_Kirchnerist and rmacintire blended into one and I incorrectly wrote to rmacintire:
Feb 20th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ of course you support the Muslim community, they have the most to gain with the breakup of the UK, if you hadn't got head stuck up Galloway'e arse you could see that ”
As British_Kirchnerist wrote he doesn't support Salmond, I SHOULD have written to him, if you support Muslims, are you aware they WANT Scottish independence for their own ends, not yours and if you hadn't got your head stuck up Galloway'e arse you could see that
And wrote to rmacintire: Salmond is also a fantasist, a very artful one, more like the pied piper leading Scotland to drown
and if Scotland fails? you mean doesn't get indendence, the Falklands will fall back into oblivion, are you joking? the world wants forever more oil and Scotland's oil has peaked and is in decline.
I hit the submit button before I did a final check on 179, Yes I do think my argument through and admit mistakes.
So can we now get back to pratt Penn or has he had enough publicity already
I've come to the conclusion that been seen in a photo call with despots is the hollywood actors equivalent of hollywood actresses being seen in a sex scandal tape. Their publicists put them up to it and they're all too monged out on coke to care.
Feb 20th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinians fiddling while their economy burns... good for them.
I found here some “archaic” comments... as the actual situation of UK...
Feb 20th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@185 nitrojuan - “ I found here some “archaic” comments... as the actual situation of UK...”
Feb 20th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that the only thing you can think of, archaic?
Yes the UK has a rich history, unlike Argentina, but whereas our future will improve, yours will get worse.
@183 he's had enough publicity, let the dickhead fade back to mediocrity.
Feb 20th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#181 If everyone who deeply loved Cristina married her, she'd have 10s of millions of husbands and wives =)
Feb 20th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#183 Well theres Muslims who support independence and Muslims who don't, Muslims in the SNP, Labour, the left, and even the Con-Dems; and I imaginme the English Muslim community have a lot to lose from the kind of England the Scot bashers on here are are looking forward to. Anyway I'm not a slave of the Muslims, I just support them against racist scapegoating just as I would the Jews, Irish, blacks, gays and yes “argies”. You might as well ask why I support the Muslims and don't practice Islam, why I support them and drink (which I do, though moderately for a Scot) and eat pork (remember what Cristina said about that!)
#184 So Cristina's a “despot” now, you really need help mate, your off your trolley
188 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 20th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right, Muslims are in all of the political parties and they ALL turn out at elections when the rest, at best is about 50%.
But yet again you’re missing the point, your mate Ahmadinejad has said, the West can be defeated by their own democracy and that is why Muslims unfriendly to the UK, support Scottish independence and donate to the SNP, because with a population of only 5 million and the average number of Scottish children born to non-Muslim families at less than 2, while Muslims have 6 + so will be able to outbreed you in no time.
If you dispute this, check what happened to Bradford, where at the time of an influx of Muslims the people there were sympathetic and kindly to them, (as they were to other groups you mention), but where taken advantage of and now are marginalised in what was their City, with no hope of resisting expanding Muslim rule.
So if you get your way, kiss goodbye to drinking (at all) and eating pork etc. etc. or the bearded ones will be after you and a formally proud Scotland, will be the first Muslim state of Europe
189 Redcoat
Feb 20th, 2012 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It couldn't happen to nicer bunch of idiots.
@188 British_Kirchnerist
Feb 21st, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I’ve done it again, it’s British_Kirchnerist who’s the traitor under Kirchner’s spell that likes Muslims but doesn’t want independence, it’s rmacintire that wants independence and if he/she gets their way, will lose it very quickly afterwards.
@181 lsolde you are right, British_Kirchnerist is besotted with Kirchner, he/she must like the brainwashing type as he also likes Galloway.
Galloway has got a hypnotic accent,
Feb 21st, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like Arabic.
But although he was right, l feel, about lraq, he is still one very strange individual.
A Rebel for the sake of being a Rebel?
Just lately he seems to have lost it altogether.
Sad.
@192 isolde
Feb 21st, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All con-artists throw in some plausible theories while seeking your trust, but I find him so bombastic I can’t listen to his ravings for very long
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