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Suspending Lan flight can only be seen as an “economic blockade” against the people of the Falklands

Tuesday, February 21st 2012 - 21:14 UTC
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British ambassador in Chile Jon Benjamin said that if Lan flights to the Falkland Islands from Chile are suspended this can only be interpreted as an “economic blockade” of the Islands and strongly suggested that the administration of Argentine President Cristina Fernandez is trumpeting the Malvinas card pushed by “domestic interests”. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    ... surely the current economic blockade could be seen as an economic blockade against the Falklands?

    Appeasement on toast anyone?

    Feb 21st, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    if this is the case, then perhaps the EU should put santions against argentina, and see how she likes it .

    Feb 21st, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    Forget the EU, the UK has a far more potent weapon up its sleeve... Prince Harry!

    Feb 21st, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    Why don't you published what some chilean politicians said the other day about this guy when refering to Antartida?

    P.S.: This guy reminds me Simpsom's Family character “Bob Patinño”. :-)

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Bob Patinño”. :-)

    Ha ha ha And William Hugue could be Homer Simpson?
    http://www.denismacshane.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/hague.jpg

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 4 and 5 Funny jokes, but the islands are still British.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    @6 Just for now, chileno.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @7 Why? What's going to happen after 'now'? You want to explain your hidden plans to the masses?

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    7
    Dream on Argentinian.
    At least it keeps you out of trouble.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Cry Falklands Harry and St George :)

    As a rather elderly brightly painted Sea king sets off to defeat the vast ish Argentine armada :)

    On unarmed sea rescue helicopter against Argentina
    Hardly fair odds?
    Maybe you can get Brazil and the nice Mr Hugo to try and even the odds:)

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    “if Lan weekly flight to Falklands from Chile with a monthly call at Rio Gallegos, are suspended this can only be interpreted as an economic blockade of the Islands, against the people of the Islands, which we believe is contrary to international law”

    Since when cutting an airline service is against the law?

    They could flight by using Kelpertani Airline or CaMerum’s charters from affen main land.

    I cannot see what is the problem money perhaps? Aren't they so rich after all?

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11 Could you explain how argie threats to another country's government to impede a commercial operation is legal?

    Have you not already forced another country to stop educational trips for its children?

    How about breaching UNCLOS by interfering with innocent right of passage?

    How about threatening war?

    Just a few little problems maybe?

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • uruk

    If Argentina finally decides to ban LAN flights to the Flaklands over Argentine airspace I'm pretty possitive that Uruguayan carriers will find a way to reconnect the islans to the world. But then, I don't think Argentina's big-heads will ever come to make this stupid step, which would only earn them international despise.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @11 There's nothing against the law about it. But it'll be difficult for the flag-shrouded argfags to see their war dead, so the war dead will have to be repatriated to argfagland as a result of this.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    DanBurger 11 - Your have not got the facts.
    The Weekly Lan flight fron Chile to Falklands IS Profitable to Lan.Therefore the only reason they would stop it is if:
    a)Argentina screws them with financial blackmail through their affiliate operation in Argentina.
    b) Argentina directly withdraws and refuses the airspace overflight - this would be a breach of IATA codes of practice and get Arg into a lot of trouble internationally.

    Indications are that Arg has possibly already initially tried option “a” - but got a negative response back from Lan - so if they want to then they will have to bribe and threaten a LOT more. If Lan were so minded - they are now the major player in LATAM- the world,s 2nd biggest airline group - they could make life impossible for Argentine Airlines in Chile and Brazil - so maybe that possibility is also something CFK may have to think about before she tries her bullyboy threats.

    Either way - if the link did go the real loosers would be Argentina and Chile - not us Islanders.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ Islander1

    Well to be honest I think that the flights will be cut if Britain persist with her refusal about to talk with Argentina.

    And if the real losers “would be Argentina and Chile - not us Islanders.” as you say why such noise about it?

    Sure you will have flights from British Airways before turns to Pakistan Airways.

    Lan Chile doesn’t have kebabs on their menu.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @16 Probably better to fly everything including cargo from South Africa. South African Airways would probably jump at the chance, and it would give the islanders somewhere nice to go. Have a look at some rhinos. Shouldn't be too pricey and they get fresh fruit and other cargo from there instead of through ArgentinaChileUruguay. Then one has less to do with Latin America which is quite good.

    You appear to be quite the racist and have a problem with people of Pakistani origin living in the UK. Is this because you have no heritage and instead leech onto Argentina to give you some kind of culture?

    Nice to see the Aryan master race is alive and well in Argfagland then.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @GreekYoghurt

    What happen Youghurt don’t you like kebabs?

    Look how British made them with care for you mate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk0Ejy7zlmQ

    You will love it like like 60 million britons including the british in the video of course.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @18 I don't typically eat kebab meat because I'm not actually convinced it's actually meat. It appears to be a large rotating mass of pure brown, which although palatable to some, every part of my body says do not eat.

    I'm sure some people like Kebabs, just like some people here eat at argentinian grills. Many immigrants bring their food for us all to enjoy, so i guess it's logical to enjoy it.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @GreekYoghurt

    Come on Youghurt confess that you are feed up with you gov policy that have turn UK into Pakistan. I will be pissed off if I would be you.

    I cannot see you in a kebab party like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ddFiYIY_LY or may be...Am I wrong?

    Surely you will prefer Garlic bread with cheese on it fish & chips and a good bottle of wine.

    Are you not tired of going for the streets of UK with your head down like if you are a foreigner in your own country?

    Are you not tired to be second best changes when applying for a job because some ethnic groups have preference over you. Are you not tired of being the idiot that support the govt. and pay taxes while a Paki have 5 houses on housing benefit and live like a sultan renting rooms.

    Can you be such an idiot? with all due respect of course.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @20 There is a reason why my country will always succeed and yours will fail. It's about adaptation. My country thrives on its diversity. Anglo-saxons are by definition a mongrel race, we are Norman, we are Celt, we are unpure and we adapt. Now we have African and South Asians joining, and Polish and Chinese. We assimilate with these races because it fundamentally makes us a stronger people, and they update our culture. We support free trade which helps our economy to adapt through the creation of new markets and reduces efficiencies, and although we support small government we were one of the first nations to develop a social system. Our infrastructure is impressive, and so is our education system. We're not perfect, but we are highly adaptable.

    Your country killed all of it's indigenous population, removing the adaptive benefits. You are genetically Spanish, Ex-mussolini Italians and groups of ODESSA Nazi germans. These groups rarely talk and infighting is common as they try to get control. You all share one static political ideology from another time. This ideology supports aggressive expansionism, social justice, nationalism, protectionism. Your people and your society are an anachronism from another age, you're not adaptable, it is all veiled in lies and inevitably social decline will destroy you all. You simply cannot adapt.

    So, yes, we do have some Pakistanis in the UK, and yes some cannot integrate, but they cannot adapt, and will suffer social failure. That's their choice. However, I really think you need to put your own house in order with its master race and aged ideology. You're the one preparing for a massive fall.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    Just beacuse LAN is a big company it doesn't mean they can provoke the argentine government. CFK, if she wants, could tell them “choose! Kelpers or us”. Not a difficult decision to take! NK told Maersk shipping company to choose and they choosed. Remember the failed joint-venture with SAAS? Now is time for Hamburg Süd shipping.
    Government knows kelpers have triangulated operations through a “ghost” company in Punta Arenas called “Delta Marine Services”.
    Surely that's the main issue for this embassador in Chile and his recent trip to th south of the country. :-)

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @22 you spend too much time trying to annoy the Islanders and not enough time trying to sort out your own country.

    After a short time the Falklanders will adapt and everything will be fine again. They probably have a new chicken farm to give them eggs and new links with commonwealth Caribbean countries to give them bananas. The more you push, the more they adapt.

    Feb 22nd, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ GreekYoghurt

    “Our infrastructure is impressive, and so is our education system.”

    What infrastructure mate? Last time I was there UK seemed a third world country.

    Anyway what do you mean by saying “first nations to develop a social system” do you mean welfare state? And when was that?

    Have you ever heard about Sozialstaat? 1870 Germany Sozialpolitiker Bismarck's conservative reforms.

    “we do have some Pakistanis in the UK”
    Some? Are you sure? How long have you been without getting out side your room? Come on do it. Take some courage and get out for a while and walk for the streets of any major UK city. BTW be careful with knifes in some places.

    Then come back and tell me what you have seen. Its free and Camerum will not charge you any tax for doing that (well I’m not complete sure about it).

    Ok I will help you so you don’t get flood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU

    Oh! Yes you are very adaptive I can see...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LccN1kDBU

    “And we don’t want that to happen to America.” Is he joking? That has already happened look his face please. Ha ha

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @Dannyberger

    Our country is far from perfect and we still have people who live in relative poverty, we all complain about the services we we have. However, at least we have properly organised services.

    The uk does'nt have massive slums and moldering shanty towns around most of its major cities like Argentina.

    BA alone has around 690000 people living in the villas miseria around it. That is REAL poverty and is hardly a good situaion for Argentina to be in, thats more like “3rd world” to the average UK citizen.

    Add to that corruption,crime rates and the instability that British people (rightly or wrongly) associate with Argentine politics and you might get an idea of why the Falklanders want nothing to do with you.

    You're trying to pressurise them into associating themselves with a poorer country that can't get its act together.

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @24, 25 Fake-german, it seems you're projecting your views about Argentina onto the UK. Remember that a third of B.A. is slumland and people living in poverty. The most that poor people in the UK have to suffer is eating chips and chicken kiev for dinner every night. That's hardly third-world.

    You really seem to have a problem with the immigrant population of the UK, like it's some deep hatred you have for non-Aryans. I know mummy and daddy probably told you about when you fled from Germany to Argentina after the war and your daddy put on his uniform to show you, but no need to push this onto the people of the UK. We helped save europe from people like your parents, and kicked them into exile in Argentina, where apparently you have spawned.

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ shb & GreekYoghurt

    Are you joking. Don’t you?

    You guys are amazing nationalistic that cannot see into what have turned UK in the last 30 years.

    Your capital (London) is well known in the world for the knife killing, scary drug addicts walking like Zombies, homeless, dirtiness, old crappy buildings, etc. etc...

    UK a third world country
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

    Do you think that this looks like a developed country?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

    Third world streets of London
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

    Rioters looters everywhere welcome to Africa
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

    Please give me a brake...

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @27 You're hardly going to get a good statement about the UK from a Catholic Priest. Especially not a German one. I'm not suggesting that the aide of the current of catholic-god's representative on earth was in the Hitler Youth, but the current Pope was. In addition, it's not like they didn't have to spend ages clearing up allegations of pederasty in mainly catholic countries..... and the Vatican support for the escaping Nazis after WW2.

    Henry the VIII did a good thing, so don't expect the Catholics to say anything nice about the UK. Anyways, don't you have a withered dead man's arm to worship?

    Besides, you seem to dislike non-white people, why is this?

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @17 Why have you not insisted on a response from “chopped and shaped extruded gristle” @16 about its heritage. Surely it must have a “heritage”. SA has monkeys, doesn't it? Also snakes.

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @GreekYoghurt

    Forget about the church stuff, that is note the point.

    Go to the street and see it by yourself UK looks like a Third World Country. Easily could be confused with one of your colonies in Africa or Middle East, but the poor ones.

    I know UK who do you want to cheat mate?

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Academik

    I only feel sorry for the poor arguments of the inhabitants of the Falklands for JOINING only wealth that belongs to Argentina. Hopefully the law will prevail not only the strongest will prevail but also history, geographical reasons and international law only reason to give the Argentine claim. And the ground made ​​the bogus self-determination. (this right is only when you're a native, is not the case invaded the islands in 1833 and the English settlers brought)

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @29 I gave up; he's incredibly tiresome.

    @30 Is it asking too much to make some sense please?

    @31 Have you actually not read anything about 1833 when the americans threw you off? Like seriously, do you people not read history?

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @GreekYoghurt

    For me makes a lot of sense where do you live in UK? That you don’t see it? I know...your answer will be...

    That you live in Richmond? May be in Kew Gardens posh area? Knightsbridge and that do your shopping in Harrods?

    Or may be that is not my business? Ha ha

    Come mate I can see you waiting for your unemployment benefit check every week to run in a hurry to Tesco to buy something to eat. Am I right?

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    33 Dany Berger

    We've got the islands and you haven't. There's nothing you can do about it. Finding photos of poverty stricken parts of the UK isn't going to make any difference. Incidentally, I challenge you to find any pictures of poverty stricken parts of the Falklands.

    Argentina is impotent and cannot do anything about it. You can make whatever comparisons you want Danny-boy but this is a thread about the Falklands and Argentina doesn't have them and we do. This is not a dick size competition or anything else. This is about the Falkland Islands and Argentina continues to lose now and in the future.

    Say whatever the hell else you wish but it will make no difference and you and the rest of the insane Malvinistas on here know it.

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Their jealousy and envy is showing..

    Feb 23rd, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    I think I touched a nerve here.

    1- First your Island are not comparable with anything because cannot even qualify for a neighbourhood. 3000 inhabitant and 1000 are soldiers supported by UK.
    2- There is nothing on there and nothing can only be comparable with nothing I guess.
    3- You cannot afford to have an air line, you cannot afford to have you own Army, your GDP is like one of Private neigbourhood of Buenos Aires and I’m being kind because if I compare you with a PN in USA you will look even poor. If you would be a province or Argentina, will be considered the poorest one 120m GDP is a joke.

    To be jealous about this insignificance someone have to be stupid mad.

    Feb 24th, 2012 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    120 million between 3000 isn't that poor.
    Then factor in the nuclear sea mines and the trained attack elephant seals your never getting the islands back

    Feb 24th, 2012 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @36 If your provinces are so rich, why is it that your domestic services are so broken? your savings have been evaporated into asset owner's pockets through inflation and your trains are unsafe.

    Those falklanders should spend their money wisely on nice new modern infrastructure and then the distant sound carried over the waves of being a province of your Argslumland will be unheard over the sound of economic prosperity and free trade.

    Feb 24th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Their jealousy and envy is showing
    they want what is not theirs,and never will be .

    Feb 24th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    In 1945 RAF bomber crews dropped food for the Dutch, don't believe me, then ask the aged Lutfwaffe pilots living in your country who could not even get off the ground to shoot them down. In 1948 the same RAF pilots took part in the Berlin airlift. If you want to play silly buggers then the RAF has squadrons of C130 Hercules aircraft, very experienced in supplying humanitarian aid to all parts of the world. Go ahead blockade the Falklands. Those C130 crews will show you just what they are capable of, probably jump at the chance to show you their expertise. If you try to interfere I'm sure an RAF fighter pilots would also like to show you what they can do with a Typhoon. So no more talk of blockades, because you will only wind up with egg on your face again.

    Feb 25th, 2012 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    36 deny berger

    The only thing you've touched since I've been reading your blogs is your own dick.

    We're still here and you're still squealing about it and that's the way it's going to stay until you stop squealing. Then, we'll still be here and you will have stopped squealing. Or you can keep squealing; it makes no difference to us.

    Feb 25th, 2012 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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