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A quarter of people in England support Scotland becoming independent

Tuesday, February 28th 2012 - 17:33 UTC
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Just over a quarter of people in England support Scotland becoming independent, a new survey has found. The latest NatCen Social Research British Social Attitudes Survey found 26% of English residents favoured ending the union between the two countries, the highest figure yet in such a survey. Read full article


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  • ChrisR

    The Scots get a tax break which costs every man, woman and child in England (not Wales) £2,000 per head.

    Is it worth it? NO.

    Get shut of the garrulous mouthed, England bashing, Scots as soon as possible.

    See how they get on then!

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Agreed, if they don't want to be part of england and wales, then they can not have our money either.

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    I personally cannot wait until they take their whinging to Germany and become some weird kind of german neocolonialist backwater. Then we can build a really big wall like in Escape from New York to keep the skirt-wearing gimps out.

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Are we talking about 'people in England' here or 'english people'? There is a difference...
    If the former it will be the scottish living in england that support it.....and it will be all the english living in scotland that vote for a continued union...........

    and anyway.... 'what did the scottish ever do for us!'

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

    There is no getting away with it Alex Salmond has run rings round the normal UK politicos (what a sorry bunch) over the last few years.This is because he eats sleeps and breathes Scottish independence ever since he saw Braveheart (what a load of anti English Hollywood tosh that was).

    The counter argument has not been put yet in detail. For a while he put Scotland in the 'Arc of Prosperity' along with Ireland and Iceland. Come 2008 and that was quickly forgotten.

    He tries to compare Scottish independence with Irish independence . If he looked at it closely he would see that that was an economic disaster with the most productive third of the Irish population emigrating (mainly to England), ethnic cleansing of 90% of the protestant population and economic stagnation for 50 years until Britain joined the EEC and Ireland had to tag along. In the meanwhile the Irish whiskey industry (then the worlds biggest) shrank by 90% and the Scotch whisky industry expanded dramatically. All in the cause on nationalism.

    I don't think the negative effects on Scotland will be as dramatic as in the Irish case but there are bound to be some on an economy which is over 55% dependent on the state (mainly UK) for jobs . I would estimate the job losses would be in the region of 250,000 (defence, Inland Revenue and company and bank head offices.)

    As for Scotlands oil ;whenever I have put this to Orcadians and Shetlanders that I know they say if Scotland becomes independent then everything is up for grabs. They do not see why their oil should go to subsidise the unemployed of Glasgow when if they keep it themselves they can be as rich as the Kuwaitis.

    He may be very 'canny' but Alex Salmond's liking for curries and chips shows. The best physical description of him ( and I cannot remember who said it ) is ' a strange toad like creature'.

    He is a man not to be underestimated as the orthodox UK politicians have consistently done. He does get things wrong though.

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @5 It's quite clear that it's still going to be in the Arc of Prosperity along with Iceland, Ireland, Spain and Greece.

    We should keep the immigration from Scotland for the good Scotts, no point fraking our own economy because of their nonsense.

    Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    one king [queen]
    one goverment
    one military
    four countries,
    theirs ya problem,
    [one nation] should have been settled hundreds or years ago,
    still thats the past, the present is here, and the future, mmm
    as long as they are, then all ok, when they aint, then things will change,
    but we thinks the [cod] father will be sleeping with the fishes lol.

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l, personally will be sorry to see them go.
    We have been through so much together.
    But if thats what the Scottish people want, then its their decision.
    l think that they may regret it.
    What about a trial separation? Only joking!

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Helber Galarga

    There is a saying that says if 1 persons has an issue with you, it's highly likely that he might be wrong. If it is 2, well then you might have to begin to look at yourself. If it is 3, then it is pretty obvious that it is you.

    Out of 3 neighbours England has (Northern Ireland does not count as it is a fictitious invention) 2 hate England's guts with passion. If you cross La Manche, they are not too fond of the English there either.

    not an easy people by the looks of what its neighbours have to say....

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I do not understand what the problem is. Scotland was only taken into the Union because it was broke and kept conducting raids across the border. Neither has really changed. I calculated that England would probably benefit to the extent of around £118 million A DAY if Scotland left. And we should understand that the Scots and the French deserve each other. Actually, there is a body of opinion that says they are actually two halves of the same race. The French being the (slightly gay) males and the Scots (complete with skirts) the females!

    I have no problem seeing the back of the Scots. After all, we've been trying to get rid for a couple of hundred years by letting them rush into dangerous places first. But I agree with GY @3. A really BIG wall. And razor wire. And minefields. And NO immigration. And forced repatriation. Could it be time for some ethnic cleansing?

    What wonderful people we English are. And better neighbours than argies. Argies don't have neighbours. Just current or future victims!

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nicodemus

    As a Scot living and working in London I look at the SNP and their fixation on an independence issue with as much amusement as reading the latest foot in mouth episode from Argentina.

    Not every Scot wants independence and is more than happy with the status quo, Salmond being slightly scared of this is quietly trying to block the Scots who don't live in Scotland but live elsewhere in the UK, from having a say in the referendum because most of us would vote against his petty kingdom making.

    @9 The Welsh hate the English and Scots, the Scots hate the Welsh and English, the English hate the Welsh and Scots and the Northern Irish hate each other. Couple that with the Manx hating everyone and you have the perfect country.

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    thats what friends are for .

    Feb 29th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @11 You forgot to mention the English the hatred of Morris Dancers.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    but the british, love everybody,
    mmm,well not everybody lol.

    Mar 01st, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claudio_laplata

    Scotland will welcome the free nations!

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @11 Nicodemus,
    Yorkshire vs Lancashire
    North country vs London
    Highlands vs Lowlands
    North Welsh vs South Welsh
    And one an lrish friend enlightened me about,
    ln Eire, east of lreland consider the west of lreland to be dumb,
    west of lreland consider the easterners to be smartarses.!
    lts everywhere.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Nicodemus v claudio_laplata

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claudio_laplata

    Los Escoceces fueron sometidos demasiado tiempo por los Ingleses! Tienen el derecho de dejar de “defender” a los ingleses en cada guerra! Quizas falte menos de un año para que posean su propia reina! luego seguira Gales?

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    y tal vez los cobardes como usted debería dejar de meterse con gente indefensa,
    so soddy off .

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l'm impressed!
    Much better espanol than mine!
    l was going to give it up, but on second thoughts, l'll need it when l travel again to see big brother.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    mmm i just got annoyed with this fool, so i went to google [translate] and read what he said, then i said things and pressed english to spannish, and hey presto,
    they guys aint as clever as they think they are .lolol.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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