MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
UK ‘sad and frustrated’ with Argentine decision to turn away cruise vessels sailing from Falklands
The British government has said it is a source of ”sadness and frustrated” that Argentina decided to turn away British tourists wishing to visit Argentina as a result of the ongoing row over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Feb 28th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roger Waters: “Las Malvinas son argentinas” Yes sir!
http://www.clarin.com/espectaculos/musica/Roger_Waters_0_654534543.html
Roger Waters wants to sell some tickets to his tour in Argentina and these oddball 'useful idiots' with a counterview can always be found.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My experience with these older pop and rock singers is that 90% of the time they are stoned out of their brains as it is the only thing which sees them through the tedium of tours.
Argentina is acting like Australia in the 1960s asking visiting celebrities what they think of the place;here it is 'whose are the Malvinas?
A sure sign of immaturity and lack of confidence.
@ 1 Who is Roger Waters? A bassist, probably on cocaine or alcohol.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas are Argentine, Falklands are British, and everybody's happy :) You are so full of sh*t that you feel happy because a ship with tourists wasn't allowed to visit our country, and you enjoy it as if it were a victory. You should have greater expectations in life, don't be selfish ;) Y qué hacés vos kirchnerista, anti-imperialista, antí-capitalista, posteando artículos de Clarín, ¿ahora está enamorado de Magnetto? Ustedes los kirchneristas son tan hipócritas, es de no creer.
Roger who? Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel in their search for support.... it will be Roger Rabbit next I guess...
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're up against argentinian anti-economic growth überfaggotry... what are you gonna do?
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reroute your cruises via TFI, that's what you're gonna do.
Jeremy Browne....time for a long lunch with the Carnival directors and get them to call anywhere accept Argentina.....put a nail in F.ck's coffin !
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mr Jeremy Browne
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0first return to Argentina the malvinas Islands and then we can be a friendship, Second: since 1965 we are waiting for us to return the Malvinas!
Roger Waters say: “Las Malvinas son argentinas” Malvinas are Argentinassssss!!
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1452317-roger-waters-dice-que-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
@6 I don't think they need Jeremy Browne telling them the obvious. I doubt any Cruise operator is keen for Argentina based 'turned-away fun' at the moment. Better just go to Chile and watch the strikes.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 The Malvinas are Argentine, The Falklands are British, which part is so hard for you to understand? :)
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 Marcos,
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if any more druggies and wife beaters will support Argentina's cause.
3 Troll from the other side of the Andes
Feb 28th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 053 xbarilox (#)Nov 14th, 2010 As Marcos Alejandro has stated before, Britain must go, and in the end it will have to go; the issue is one of how and when.
Malvinas Argentinas.
77 xbarilox Brits are so used to steal things from people, that believe they have some kind of authority to tell people what to do, what to think, what to say, what to believe lol
102 xbarilox
Don't get scared people, get the facts, the islandars can't decide anything,
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/12/second-oil-rig-to-join-falklands-oil-exploration-round-next-year
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/12/second-oil-rig-to-join-falklands-oil-exploration-round-next-year
@ 2 no seas tan inocente sergio x deus! no te odio ni a vos ni chile, los lugares a los que más he ido son la serena y santiago y son siempre muy BONITOS :-))), no iría a un lugar que odio. y no le des tanta importancia a lo que escribo, el 99,9 % lo escribo para provocar”
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/12/second-oil-rig-to-join-falklands-oil-exploration-round-next-year
How do you think millions of Argentines feel who are part of its territory invaded? : sad and frustrated , too.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 the hunger pains they will be feeling in a few months will overide the sadness and frustration......
Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you European invaders killed off most of the original occupants of the land known as Argentina so they cannot feel anything.
@14 that's not in the Arg.com Regulation school history books.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Marcos Alejandro
Feb 28th, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 099.9% of what you write is simply rubbish.
whatever peoples view on Roger Waters ! He is a great musician and by all accounts a clever man ! Do you really think he would leave River Plate stadium alive shouting “FALKLANDS ARE BRITISH” hardly ! plus he guaranteed a return tour ! very clever ! All you people getting excited because a British man so called supported your views, don't be so naive !
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Malvinas are Argentine, only its people are British. That respect and guarantee.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Play to your audience, in all senses of the term.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's about time HMG realised that Argentina is no friend of ours. Those people mean us harm. They are our enemies and should be treated as such. Hold at arms length and do not show any weakness.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 The people in the Falklands and the UK don't believe in your respect and guarantees.
@11 Argentina has plenty of practice stealing land itself, you tried stealing the Falklands in 1982 and the 1820s/30s.
18 XAVIERV
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In your wet dreams.
The people of the Falklands are British and the Falklands are British. The Malvinas is something inside the head of the Malvinistas only.
How long before the current decision affecting cruise ships gets “reviewed”, just like the decision affecting cargo ships up north? I'll be interested to see what happens if the Argie officials try to stop a passenger ship intending to do a pax exchange. Ha ha, it will never happen.
Let's face facts. No one respects the Argentinians because let's face it, they don't respect themselves. Just demanding that countries give them islands based upon 'we just want it' or retconed history is hardly going to earn it. They have no idea about economy, by the childlike politicisation of everything, rather than just taking the money.To be fair they seem to annoy the americans more than they do the British, because of their ignorance of who owns what.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's quite funny though.
18 XAVIERV (#) Why dont CFK take the claim to the ICJ ???
Feb 28th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0guarantee she will decline too.
@16 Pugol-H
Feb 28th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“99.9% of what Marcos Alejandro writes is simply rubbish.”
Can I second that and it's always the same old repeated rubbish as well.
@7 Kiwisarg - There is nothing to return, so go without the tourist money the ships would bring, and stave that much sooner
@24 what about that Raul chap who just spams the board with the same copypasta over and over and over regardless of the topic or how many times it's been discredit? He's my personal favourite.
Feb 28th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 I'll be interested to see what happens if the Argie officials try to stop a passenger ship intending to do a pax exchange. ”
Feb 28th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Austral / Aerolineas will be flying empty planes.... LAN shares will go up....
Some of the ships already do passenger exchanges in Stanley..
@26 With a bit of investment there is scope for turning Stanley into the answer to every shipping company's prayers. Some kind of stable place for them all to start their cruises from without having curious locals shouting at you like in Argland.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Notice how once again the British gentlemen sense of fair play comes into the reckoning,
Feb 29th, 2012 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0No matter what you do, what you say, how you say it,
The British are more concern with your well being, than the insults you throw out,
But to be fair to you silly Argies, its not your fault, indoctrination is a bugger, is it not,
But we must remain you, there are two British governments, ,responses,
Are you not lucky to be presented with the polite and caring British government,
Keep pushing, and you may well se the bad side of the British government,
There is always a hawk, ready and waiting to take over the reins,
Lucky Argies, to have such a polite, so called enemy,
Now run along and mind how you go, we wouldn’t want any of you to fall over, you just might blame the British [again] lol.
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marcos, are you not even the slightest bit concerned that your fellow RG's probably think of you as much of an arse as I do?
Feb 29th, 2012 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway keep posting because your silly comments help keep these forums alive!
Today I had a pleasant lunch with three Argentine couples in Punta del Este and this subject came up. Of the total of 6, only one Argentine lady thought the Ushuaia incident was a good thing, but she was unable to explain why. The other 5 Argetines present had nothing good to say about CFK's policies regarding the Falklands or anything else. Of course, these Argentines having lunch at a Punta del Este restaurant are not run-of-the-mill Argentines. They're successful, and they don't live off government handouts.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30 poor provincial rebel!
Feb 29th, 2012 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0nah JORGE not a rebel, just RG's (your countries a democracy right????? Snigger, snigger), having an opinion which differs to that of some other RG's! Not rebels, or traitors or anything of the like!
Feb 29th, 2012 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 031 - Actually Jorge, I believe the lady in question lives in Recoleta. That would make her a Porteña rather than a provincial, wouldn't it? Nah, I think it's just something she was taught in school, on a par with the Earth's being flat. Certainly not a carefully thought out opinion.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not a poor person because I don't speak spanish, and this aside, why do spanish speaking people eat yellow rice? Eskimos clearly tell you not to eat yellow snow, so why do these spanish speaking people eat wee-rice, is it because they're so very very poor?
Feb 29th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely it's time for all British-flagged (and related) cruise vessels to cease even attempting to dock anywhere in argieland? Not difficult to do. Call in in Brazil, then Uruguay, then down to the Falklands and then into the Pacific and calls in Chile and other ports along the western coast. This avoids disappointing the paying customers. Those customers that actually want to visit a cess pit could leave the cruise at Montevideo or Punta Arenas and travel overland (but not by train).
Feb 29th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 - Actually it's saffron that makes the rice yellow. Tastes really good, but bloody expensive. Perhaps the poor put in some colouring agent to make rice look as if it's prepared with saffron.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 035 - When for one reason or another a cruise ship at Punta del Este is unable to allow passengers on shore (usually due to bad weather, cruise ships anchor in the bay and the ship's launches transport passengers back and forth), there are many locals who lose money - bus companies, hawkers, shop and restaurant staff, taxi and limo drivers - the list goes on and on. Uruguayan papers claim that the average cruise ship passenger spends to the tune of USD 60 on a visit ashore. I imagine the losses are about the same for the citizens of Ushuaia, but CFK probably couldn't care less.
Greekyoghurt has completely lost it!
Feb 29th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 GreekYoghurt
Feb 29th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not very diplomatic, don’t get too fixated on those Argentinians that just want to wind us up, there are plenty of Spanish speaking good guys, although I do appreciate you can forget them, when mainly dealing with morons.
p.s. The same rule as when driving applies here, if you’re tired don’t.
I think as misguided as Argentina's policies are, they have succeeded in really pissing off many here. Because as weak and feeble as they see Argentina being, the fact it is doing such things and other countries can do little about it makes it worse for them.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course CFK is hurting her country now, but that's to be expected by 70s guerilleros that never actually became adults and are doling out their “vendettas” 30 years later. Including to the military they completely gutted yet now want to project belligerancy. It's a completely disjointed strategy.
Asked about the reported plan to block British imports, Mr Cameron's spokesman told reporters at a regular media briefing in Westminster: “It is clearly very sad that Argentina continues with their policy of confrontation.
Feb 29th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”We think that is counter-productive and also a complete misreading of Britain's resolve on this issue.
“The UK is also a major investor in Argentina and we import goods from Argentina. It is not in Argentina's economic interest to put up barriers of this sort.
” Last year Argentina imported goods worth over 600 million dollars from Britain - mainly consisting of chemicals, pharmaceuticals and cars.
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Cars? I have never seen a British “car” on the strees of Argentina. I don't say this to insult, just a genuine observation. Unless we are talking about Italian, German, or American cars made there.
Mar 01st, 2012 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 041 - Plenty of Jags, Rovers and Land Rovers with Argentine number plates to be seen in Punta del Este. But perhaps you consider such vehicles Chinese.
Mar 01st, 2012 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@39 tobias
Mar 01st, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you are seeing here is irritation in response to continued provocations. The real piss off comes when the oil starts to be exploited. And it won’t be the Brits or Islanders feeling it.
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