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Any negotiations “must start from a position of trust” Falklands tells Argentina
Negotiations must start from a position of trust and “it is hard to trust a Government who so easily break their word, and who deny our right to exist as a people”, said Falklands lawmaker Roger Edwards in response to the announcement by Argentine President Cristina Fernandez on direct air-links to the Falklands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNever trust an Argentinian to keep there word on anything. They will simply lie until they die.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so..
Mount Pleasant, East Falkland (MPN) to Ascension Island Wideawake Airport (ASI) = 3,922 miles
Mount Pleasant, East Falkland (MPN) to Buenes Aires, ARG (AEP) = 1,187 miles
Mount Pleasant, East Falkland (MPN) to Cape Town, South Africa (CPT) = 3980 miles
Mount Pleasant, East Falkland (MPN) to Auckland, New Zealand (AKL) = 5,527 miles
It's the same distance from Cape Town to Falklands as New York to London, so shouldn't be too bad. besides it's better than always using the air bridge.
Mr Yoghurt - agree 100%.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0God Save The Queen
CFK to Roger Edwards, “Sorry, and you are?”
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK to CFK: “Stop telling me what to do, if you tell me what to do again I'll start wearing the special helmet in public, and then I won't be able to hear you”
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well i for one would NEVER trust CFK!
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 4, love it!
How can you trust a politician like her, talk about mixed messages, i do wonder what planet she is one sometimes and surely her country must think the same?
@3 you may not think Mr Edwards is anyone important but he speaks out for all the Falkland Islanders as one of the elected councillors and i couldn't agree more with his response to this lunatic's CFK's pathetic attempts at negotiation. Why the hell would you want to trust that mad cow?
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/cristina-fernandez-in-c24-publicity-stunt/
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0How blatant is that by the UN Decolonisation committee to allow itself to be manipulated by the RG's in such a way, changing the date to suit The Botox Queen.
Staggering.
Morning All! Nice to see youve all been winding each other up in the traditional manner! I thought id try and lighten the mood:
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I had an argument with a girl I know last night. She was saying how that it's unfair that if a guy f@#ks a different girl every week, he's a legend, but if a girl f@#ks just two guys in a year, she's a slut.
So in response I told her that if a key opens lots of locks, then it's a master key. But if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock.
That shut her up.
6 The Cestrian (#) wow... I just opened that link ! my god does that lady ever shut that big mouth ! anyway unless the people are unhappy on the island which they are clearly not, I cant imagine them getting anywhere with that meeting unless they take it to the ICJ that would be very interesting ! probably see a smoke shape of CFK in her chair while fleeing for the exit ..
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet they have a nice spread though..and maybe she will convince them to like Mate ! which to me it's yukkk
I bet they have a nice spread though..and maybe she will convince them to like Mate ! which for me its...
Why don't we just nuke em and be done with it?
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do it if you have the balls.
Roger Edwards is quite right. Just ask the Uruguayans about their experiences of Buenos Aires reneging on commitments.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 The issue with the C24 is not that 'she changed the date'. The issue is that the C24 is there to 'decolonise non-self governing territories', it doesn't fulfill it's remit and the list of these territories is very out of date.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain and Argentina's attempts to recolonise these territories is using it completely against it's remit. It's not a forum for discussion on turning effectively self-governing territories into new colonies, based upon the whim of fascist failed states that are delinquent in following binding UN rules (UNSCR 502) . Thankfully the UK refuses to deal with this anachronism slash den of iniquity, as any right minded state would not.
This is basically the shame of the UN. Apparently the glory days of this institution are gone, it's become a complete furk-show with no idea of what it's doing while Ban Ki-moon just sits around trying to find jobs for fellow Koreans. Better yet, just cut it's funding to the basics... then it has to choose what's important.
10 Following a Nuclear attack the only people in Argentina with balls would be Argentinian women.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0l don't trust them one little bit.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0l certainly don't trust Princessa Rubberface.
lf it were up to me l'd tell her to jam her airlinks up..............!
@10 JuanStanic,
lts an option, ha ha, OJ.
don't be ridiculous.
@ 1 GY,
Looking forwards to the Capetown route.
Hope the Bluetrain still runs to Durban.
Excellent SA coffee.
@14 I think the South African route would a great strategic asset, comparable in time to getting to Santiago, and keeps you connected to the 'real' world, if they cut the LAN flight.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Besides, think of all the coffee and biltong you can bring back! In fact, can't you sell them biltong?
@11
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, it all started when Buenos Aires asked Artigas, chief of Orientales to help oust the Spanish Viceroy following the abdication of King Ferdinand VII in favour of Napoleon. After achieving an initial victory on May 1811, Buenos Aires turned their back on Orientales and Artigas and had traded them to the Portuguese in exchange of a few favours by 1816. They handed Uruguay to the Portuguese, reneging on every pact ever made! Now, let's see... if they were theirs, what would they trade the Falklands for?
Looks like there is a nice understanding developing between the UK and US/FIG on the oil issue:
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/money/4077559/US-firms-1bn-for-Falklands-oil.html
Hopefully it wont be long before the FIG gets a return for looking after and investing in their resources.
@10 Somewhere under a number of your slums....sorry, cities, there are a number of shielded nuclear devices. Given your beliefs, these will propel you on your way to Heaven. Is this not considerate and generous? We are ready to spend OUR money to help you reach the Pearly Gates! Of course, we cannot guarantee that you will be able to go through the Gates. We might tell the guy with the trumpet what you're really like! And you know where you'll be going then. Have you checked out what you'll look like with horns, a little tail and a pitchfork? Not to mention the burning forever?
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just could not trust this woman or her government.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That says it all really.
Roger Edwards
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is clear negotiations must start from a position of trust,
Sir,
Might I suggest, that if you are /or want to trust in trust, then while you are on the subject, might I suggest the islanders ask/request then all or any further talks, must start with a gesture of trust that you can all see, thus you should request that CFK and her government starts by [removing the Falklands and the sovereignty claim from the argentine constitution]
This may well go someway to start the trust, as if they are serious about trust, by removing this offending article, would go a long way towards trust,
And why not, as they broke all other existing agreements, I think that before any re-negotiations ,
The islanders can demand something of their very own, and this offending item in their constitution should be removed,
That just my opinion.
Briton .
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A direct flight to and from BA is a good idea. BUT, people must be free to choose. That means allowing charter flights and flights to and fr Punta, or anywhere else. Perhaps agreeing to talks would be a good move, as it is the appropriate place to play the Self-determination card and to institue a Malvinas within the Falklands. The proposed talks are non-binding so you could walk away.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Truth is islanders have little interest in Argentina as they are all from UK.
he asked per trust?, how we can trust in kelpers?,
Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0kelpers are OCUPAS, that means people who take land that doesn t belong to them, and now are asking per trust.
Are this people nuts?
Who cares what this “human” being says!!!
Mar 04th, 2012 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Better to trust a human, than an Argentinian. At least humans aren't self-serving morally vacuous husks that defecate land-mines and breath naught but lies.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 And you want the Islanders to TRUST you? After a comment like that? As a Brit, I'll happily trust any argie afterwards. After what, you ask. One minute after the detonation of a suitable “device”, provided they were all standing at “ground zero”.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 I understand why you have used quotation marks. It's doubtful if you could find a “human” being in argieland. In order to dispel all possibilities, it's also doubtful that you could find a “human being”, a human “being”, a “human”, a human or a human being in argieland either. Unless they were a foreigner passing through (as fast as possible). Argieland doesn't produce humans. It just breeds rats! Like yourself.
It always leads back to the same thing. Having had their expansionism thwarted throughout history, argentinians return to openly expressing their wish to have the islands they never owned stripped of any kind of humanity in their unmitigated thirst for someone else's property.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's always simmering just below the surface.
@26 There really is only one solution. Rats, and other vermin, have to be exterminated. Nothing else will “solve” the “problem”. The rats will never admit they are wrong. Simple choice really, isn't it? 3,140 people or 40 million rats.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 given the amount of programming that your average Argentinian goes through during school and Kirchner-Hitler Youth League, in order to get them to believe that Peronism works (it clearly fails at every corner). You're going to always have issues changing their cognition. Thankfully, most North Koreans (BFF of Argentina) who also have to endure this type of programming seem to quite quickly blend into a normal South Korean society, with only a few minor issue around them still trying to boil up their shoes for soup.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think in the case of Peronism it is more like a chicken. If you cut off the head, it wanders around aimlessly for a while before it quietly bleeds to death. Then Argentinians can get on with being normal humans and corruption will have gone.
@23 Better to trust a human, than an Argentinian. At least humans aren't self-serving morally vacuous husks that defecate land-mines and breath naught but lies.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yogui: You are an IDIOTIC unemployed hooligan......
PUAJJJJJ!!!
Argentina shouldn't legitimize any deals with pirates, thieves and armed terrorists, let's follow USA example on how to deal with filthy rats.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's invite all nations to fish our waters for a special price until all fish is gone the way USA and UK did in Malvinas. Argentina should always followthw white trash lead. Do to them as they do to others.
Conqueror 27 the rats here are you and every britsh that think like you, plus all the islanders, OCUPAS, if you love your islanders offert your house as a shelter,
Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ratt ass , pirata del orto
@30 Yes, don't have any legitimate deals with Somalian pirates, property thieves like Luis Vernet or Armed Terrorists like the Condors who you pay and those people who terrorised the Falklanders in 1982.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instead, destroy all your environment in a no-balls South American can't get what he wants sulky rage.
Great idea.
FYI. Piracy is criminal activity at sea, criminal activity on an island is not piracy.
for you greek youghurt
Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reagan times are over, becarefull with US, Now US knows that need the backyard, if Argentina make agreements to share south atlantic natural resources will see what happen with Uk pretentions
@33 We Atlantic Islanders stick together like glue. Why would we want you mainland South Americans involved in our turf? You stick to your mainland and carry on stealing land off your neighbours. The Atlantic has nothing to do with you.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as I told you, becareful, world change, new players are now playing
Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 033. Considering Argentina has a long history of breaking contracts and treaties why would you think the USA would choose to deal with Arg over the UK? Quick answer we won't and don't. Just look what your filthy corrupt government is doing to YPF now. Who would want that? Um NOBODY. You thought FDI was low last year wait until this year!
Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't have any “South Atlantic Natural Resources” because the FI has them.
@35 the world has changed.. new players like brazil, india, russia, south africa, turkey and china are playing. In the meantime, countries seemingly delinquent like Argentina, Venezuela, Iran and North Korea are left back in the stone ages.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, Argentina isn't an Atlantic Island Nation or Territory. You have no business meddling with Atlantic Nations or Territory. So just get back to stealing land off Chile and Paraguay, because let's face it.. that's all argentinians do.
? if Argentina make agreements to share south Atlantic natural resources will see what happen with Uk pretensions
Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The truth,,,,,
Precisely nothing,
Its not your to sell,
And America would not / could not buy of tea leaves .
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I was researching about the word FALKANDS, and it is very interesting that if I put that word on google.com ( english version) results are as follows:
Mar 05th, 2012 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0FALKANDS 9,430,000 results
MALVINAS 175,000,000 results
Then i shifted to spanish version of google, guess what !!?
FALKLANDS 9.430.000 resultados
MALVINAS 175.000.000 resultados
Woow, what a difference.... it seems that MALVINAS is preferred by the 95 % of the writers in whe WORLD. isn't it the word that argentineans name their islands ?
@40 hipolyte,
Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0You call them what you like.
lt is a matter of supreme indifference to us.
We will call them by their correct name i.e.
The Falkland lslands.
& guess what? They belong to us & NOT to Argentina. ha ha ha
@ 40....you are an absolute monkey!
Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0try doing the same for
Islas malvinas &
Falkland Islands
then you will see that your figures get turned on their head....you clearly dont know how search engines work!!!!!!
40 hipolyte
Mar 05th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shall we do it correctly:
11,399,753 Falkands Islands
3,629,163 Islas Malvinas
76% for the Falklands
24% for the mythical Malvinas (mM)
Hey blokes, this conversation is turning a bit childish. Let's ignore ignotants and keep it clever, shall we?
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