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Falklands confused over Ushuaia decision to turn away cruise vessels

Friday, March 2nd 2012 - 05:22 UTC
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The Falkland Islands government and tourist industry admit to being confused and thus unable to comment in any great detail on the recent decision, apparently, by the Argentine provincial Government of Tierra del Fuego, turning away from Ushuaia two British flagged cruise ships earlier this week. Read full article

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  • Think

    TWIMC

    So the Veendam canceled?
    How very strange!
    First of many....

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    “whether it had received national approval from the Cristina Fernandez administration.” Are you serious? Of course it had received the approval from Cristina de Kirchner.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Stop dreaming Think - start thinking :-)

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “This hasn’t really affected us” said Trowell....yet

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Yes, guys, that's right. I guess in Argentina people go up to people, punch them in the face for a couple of weeks, then say “hey, let's be friends!”. Are you mental? If you want the islands to be Argentine by sovereignty you need to start acting like a place they want to be associated with and not a belligerent bully.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    George Galloway interviews Patrick Mercer
    Feb 2012
    “3000 people can not lead British foreign policy..”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywrirqt-2Gc

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    How can it be confusing?
    Gaucho Rivero law gives the government the duty, right or possibility, call it how you like, to deny entry to the ports to any ship of British or convenience flag linked to the exploting of natural resources on the islands.
    Now this whole mess started because Fabiana considered tourism to be a natural resource. As in Argentina tourism is not defined as one or the other, then it was up to her interpretation. She acted under law.
    So because of this, we the Chamber of Tourism and also the Chamber of Commerce are taking the case to court so Justice rule wheter tourism is or not a natural resource.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STRATEGICUS

    6
    George 'The Cat' Galloway is a well known looney leftwing nutter who works for such unbiased broadcasters such as Irans Press TV and bangs this particular drum whenever he gets the chance.
    He was doing it again last night on Andrew Neils This Week and was well and truly shown up as an out of touch lightweight by not only Michael
    'Spanish' Portillo but also by Alan Johnson who should have been agreeing with him.

    I wonder whether Galloway uses the same weed as Roger Waters who asked the Chilean interviewer ' the islanders are British ,they have a point of view don't they'? His Argentine ticket sales are going well. If I were him I would forget about doing a tour of the UK or the Falklands for a while.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    @8
    No serious artist would take the luxury of doing a tour, even 1 concert on the Islands. It's not economically worth it.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    I'm waiting for CFK to give her opinions on the British Psychedelic Rock scene of the late 1960's, that's how logical it is for Roger Waters opinions to be considered on the subject of the islands.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Last Friday joke:

    Arguing with a RG is like playing chess with a pigeon.

    You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board and strut around triumphantly.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Stop dreaming Think - start thinking :-)
    AHAHAHAH lordy;uk is FINISHED!! Just stop liying and dreaming...

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    George Galloway is a bit of a joke. Remember his interview with Sadam Hussein?
    It must be comforting for CFK to be described as a beautiful and charming lady with whom he could settle the dispute in 5 minutes. Luckily for us, JG represents no one but himself

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @6 You're right. You simply cannot trust the argentinians, they always renege on everything they say or sign and you cannot trust them with delivering your supplies during a economic blockade. That's just nonsense.

    @12 Yep, the Falklands, like the UK is an Atlantic Island Nation, and they should be flying to South Africa or Africa more. Have less ties with the Latams and make friends with people who actually make some sense.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    It looks like the Kim Il Sung approach to diplomacy. A torrent of stick followed by a tiny carrot that looks more like a poisoned chalice.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @15 Kim Jong Un sends out a questionnaire of unachievable demands. Just like KFC apparently. They're both hermit kingdoms that do nothing for their people other than treat them like animals and feed them shoe soup.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @11 brit abroad,
    stop it, you're giving me uncontrollable giggles every time l think of your joke.
    @14 GreekYoghurt,
    Yes a weekend's shopping & coffee bars in Capetown sounds nice, right now.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1NIuCt72bU @6 Marcos Alejandro watch LOL

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @17 Well, you know already that I don't speak spanish, and because of this I'm not poor. Putting this aside, I don't understand the obsession with FIslanders not flying to Saffaland. Cape town is closer than Ascension Island.

    Place: Cape town, Africa (Nice Place)
    Main Airline: South African Airlines (good)
    Flight Cost: ~£1000
    Things to do: Have coffee, go see tigers and things, hang at the beach, have a nice time.

    Place: Buenes Aires, South America (Not so nice)
    Main Airline: Argentinian Plummet Airlines (V. Bad)
    Flight Cost: 0.86p (Subsidized to kill off lan flight)
    Things to do: Get mugged, Look at jewish people who like Peron-Hitler, Get stabbed, Get pushed under a train if you're brown (not white).

    So, if I was the FIG I'd be lobbying for South African airlines to do a couple of flights and give you all a nice break in Africa looking at gazelles and stuff.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viva Las Falklands

    George Galloway is a bit of a joke. He was certainly put in his place by Portillo and Johnson last night. Quite fun to watch.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Turkey Neck is getting desperate.
    I would hope Falkland Island Air Defences are on a high, “shoot first, ask questions later” alert.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Lots of goodies to come. Argieland needs to negotiate with FIG over air links. What's that? FIG doesn't exist? No negotiations then. Argieland denies docking facilities to British (and related) - flagged vessels? British government “advises” cruise lines not to dock in argieland. Official policy. No consular assistance available in argie ports. Cruise passengers advised to leave cruise vessels at Montevideo or Punta Arenas and travel to argieland overland if they really want to visit a cess-pit. Do NOT use the train. British government to agree with LAN that government will fund additional fuel costs so that LAN flight can avoid argie airspace. LAN encouraged to empty sewage tank in argie airspace. British companies encouraged to source imports in countries other than argieland. EU MEPs requested not to include British money in aid to argieland. Advised that use of any British money will result in reduction in British contributions. EU MEPs requested to cancel all aid to argieland and ban imports from argieland. EU MEPs also requested to end negotiations on proposed EU/Mercosur trade agreement.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    I felt the need to share this gem of a fairy tale I found on RT:

    “It seems that most here are too young to remember the war, or even the commonly reported facts leading up to it. It also seems that the only things taught about it since is a one eyed propaganda story.

    Here is what even the BBC would talk openly and honestly about at the time.

    Only five extended families lived there before and during the war. They were sheep farmers and because of the remote position, their mutton and wool was far too expensive to pick up. England organised ships to pick up the products, in effect subsidising the Falklanders unproductive lifestyle farms.

    No one wanted the pathetic chunk of dirt. The Iron Lady tried to give it to Argentina. Argentina refused. A year later Argentina believed a small propaganda coup was possible by annexing them peacefully and claiming victory over England as England would not defend it as they wanted to be rid of the place.

    The Iron Lady desperately wanted a propaganda coup herself, and beating Argentina in a spat war was the perfect opportunity, believing that no or few losses would result. They even sent a Royal to heighten the propaganda frenzy. They lost two warships including a troop carrier filled with troops. It was only a matter of luck that the Royal was not onboard. They immediately withdrew the Royal.

    England sent more ships. Only possible because the Commonwealth sent spare ships to patrol the waters the English ships patrolled.

    Through force of numbers, England pushed the tiny number of Argentinian forces out.

    At the time there was a lot of support on the Falklands for Argentinian rule. That support has continued for the following decades. Only recently, after a large number of English military has been stationed there has the ”opinion polls“ changed. Interesting since the Military now outnumber the tiny number of farmers”.

    Isn't it just precious ? All that is missing is “and they all lived happy ever after”.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @23 Furry-Fat-Feck

    It's the bed time story Argentinians tell their children to prevent them growing up to realise what evil losers their parents were.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @23 you have to give it to the RT, they give someone a bottle of vodka, and a keyboard and then read verbatim whatever the poor soul types up.

    I used to watch RT for a laugh but it was just too mindbendy for any serious watching.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Thank u MORRISEY,
    http://www.clarin.com/espectaculos/musica/Malvinas-Morrissey-Roger_Waters_0_656334551.html

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    “The court jester morrisey desperate for ticket sales and money finally gave in and said that las malvinas are Argentine, after selling almost 20 tickets for his latest gig in Buenes Aires”

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Jees a proper little bunch of charmers the argies are getting to root for them

    Washed-Up Morrissey: Still Racist, Still Worshiped

    Besides the depressing fact that Morrissey still makes music, he always gets a pass for making racist remarks just because he's Morrissey. He's back at it in a new interview with Guardian Weekend, where he calls Chinese people “a subspecies.”

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    So they now have a wife beater, a drug abuser with second thoughts depending on his audience and an unrepentant racist.

    Argentina is still on form then.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    26 Kipling Morrissey supports Argentina ? Great :-)))
    Well some they say is about selling tickets, I am not sure about Morrisey but Roger is going to have 9 concerts in Buenos Aires with over three hundred thousands tickets solds before he made the comment “Malvinas belong to Argentina”

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Question? are there any Argentine flagged vessels, cruise ships etc?

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @28 With racist views like that shouldn't Morrisey move to Argentina where it's perfectly normal to be in the Hitler Youth, wear an SS Uniform and push bolivians in front of trains? I guess we all know where he's going to retire, and yes, he should retire.

    I wonder who the next cult of celebrity figure will be begging for tickets in exchange for abandoning the FIslanders?

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @27 I was in Vina del Mar, Chile, at the time of the music festival and Morrissey was one of the acts. He did not make a good impression at all. He was rude to the locals and they now cannot stand him.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    He is going to be bolloxed in Argentina :-)))))

    In 2009 he abandoned a stage at the Coachella Festival in California because of the smell of cooking meat.

    Morrissey has been vegetarian since he was 11 years old. He has explained his vegetarianism by saying “If you love animals, obviously it doesn't make sense to hurt them.”[101] Morrissey is an advocate for animal rights and a supporter of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). In recognition of his support, PETA honoured him with the Linda McCartney Memorial Award at their 25th Anniversary Gala on 10 September 2005.[102]

    In January 2006, Morrissey attracted criticism when he stated that he accepts the motives behind the militant tactics of the Animal Rights Militia, saying “I understand why fur-farmers and so-called laboratory scientists are repaid with violence—it is because they deal in violence themselves and it's the only language they understand.”[103]

    Morrissey has criticised people who are involved in the promotion of eating meat,

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Where's Mr Cameron? Is he busy with “Horsegate”?

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I did not know anything about Morrisey so I looked him up in Wilkipedia.
    He seems a rather unsavoury character from what I read, I then listened to a video on youtube of him singing “Moon River” The comments on his rendition were glowing. After 30 seconds I realised that he was singing “off key” in parts of the song. Why in heaven's name does anyone think his pronouncements are of tremendous importance. Of course he is going to say what he did in front of an audience in Argentina. He would have been lynched if he had said otherwise. His opinion is worth no more or less than any other person on this forum. Now, if it had been Nelson Mandela............

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claudio_laplata

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    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @34 I used to be a fan of the smiths, but then he got all weird and pseudo-political and I just couldn't hack it any more. I don't like animal testing as much as the next man, but let's face it, it's sometimes necessary.

    So if he hates meat so much, why is he in Argentina? Doesn't he know they eat more meat than any other nation? Morrihypocrisey?

    He probably hates the falklands because you make lamb.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    19 - Greek Yoghurt - So you're an anti-semite and racist. Shame on you!
    I suggest you apologise. Long live the Falkland Islands, WITHOUT bigots.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    35 Marcos Alejandro
    Mr Cameron is probably enjoying a nice cup of tea with a smirk on his face waiting for the next circus act from Cristina and her cronies.

    Where´s Marcos, sitting in front of his computer writing horse shite comments as per usual...

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @39 Clearly you don't understand what irony is then. I think you should look back at your definitions for bigotry and racist, as I am clearly neither.

    Let me spell it out to you, in easy words. Peron was a big fan of Hitler, and most of his ideologies came from N. Bonaparte, Hitler and Mussolini. They all believe that they are a part of a supreme master race. Kind of like the Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews believe that 'Goyim' are donkeys that only exist for their pleasure and slavery. So, we have the Jews thinking that they're a master race, we have the Argentinians thinking they're a master race, etcetera etcetera. The irony is that Hitler wanted to exterminate all the jews, and now argentinian jews are following his ideology, rebranded as peronism.

    So, that's irony. It's not racism, it's not bigotry it's just basic irony.

    Viva la Revolution!

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    No one answered my question, are there any flagged Argentine vessels, (Apart from the Belgrano, if that doen't get a response, nothing will). Is the shipping all one way? what? if any merchant fleet does Argentinia have. After all if docking right to Britsh flagged or British Commenwealth flagged ships are denied. The it seems only reasonable to apply the same to Argentine vessels in any British or Commonwealth flagged port. I know, I know! tit for tat, lowering yourself to their standards, two wrongs don't make a right, blind leading the blind, do as I say not what I do, etc, etc. All pretty bloody childish realy.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claudio_laplata

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    40 Mrlayback “Mr Cameron is probably enjoying a nice cup of tea”
    Not really Brit, he is crying in TV about something inappropiate he did with a horse...“Mounting” pressure on Cameron?
    Hey, look at the massive plonker on that old horse!

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    just bits of the story again,
    a bit like those nuns doing a bungee jump,

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    44 Marcos Alejandro ! Like I said: you are writing horse shite comments as per usual with no irrelevants to the debate.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @42 I don't think there are very many RG cargo ships and tankers in international trade but they do have one old cruise ship ( hardly a liner) called Ushuaia. Very old... Noah was her first owner...

    She has been to FI recently and is down to visit again this year. http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica/tours/ushuaia_8/falklands-south_120.htm
    So argentina has screwed with 2% of the FI cruise trade.... its a simple matter for the Islands to screw 100% of theirs......

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    Of course they are confused! They don't even know what a federal Country is!

    Wheter or not Rios and Kirchner are political “friends”, TDF government can take some desicions without asking the federal government.
    As it was said, Rios aplied the “Gaucho Rivero” law. It talks about natural resources and it explotation, but she interpreted that tourism was a natural resource, so the tourism businessmen took the case to court. It will decide.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Think - very sorry to dissapoijt you but the reality of the Veendam was as follows:
    24 hours BEFORE her arrival monning at Stanley she was still 600miles north of the Islands battling her way through a freak storm with 12mtr waves(36feet).
    To reach Stanley on schedule she would have to have steamed at 30knots through 36ft seas! Either the ship would have shook to bits - passengers mutinied - or if neither happened the Captain would have been sacked when his Accountants got the fuel bill.
    Nothing at all to do with any S American turnip lady!

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @46 'Marcos' is really a parrot....

    @49 Thanks for the clarification...el thicko talking non sense again....

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    The new scenario is UK without any oversize support about Malvinas. Kelpers, thru a fanatic ideology (supported by UK), without any way and with strong isolation. South Amercica agaisnt to UK. EU against the UK arrogancy (GIBRALTAR, taxes, Scotland, Ulster, Greek Marble, etc.). Incredible!!!.... 300.000 britains in Argentina that they love to live in Argentina and don´t want to live in Malvinas.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @51 Kelpers have a fanatical ideology? Called democracy and anti-colonialism? anti-peronism? Which is it?

    Ulster and Scotland are in the UK. The Elgin Marbles have nothing to do with anything. What's arrogance got to do with Gibraltar? Spain has far more 'enclaves' and Gibraltar is self-governing, unlike the Spanish areas.

    You really need to sit down, take a breath and then start again.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    52, probably u are so ignorant as Paul Trowell with a terrible CV. He is jobless of NZ. Kakakaka. Kelpers, they are poor people and so ignorants. Go to ignorant place., UK. I recommend u to read more:
    http://www.ilmanifesto.it/
    http://www.ilmanifesto.it/
    http://www.ilmanifesto.it/

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    @50 “Frank” is really a false prophet....

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @53 can you try to write something readable please, or just stop using google translate. Thanks.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    55 of course, u are so ignorant ...thank u for my thesis. If u want I intent to looking for in welsh news (I know Cymraeg). Another thing, for your poor culture
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language
    where u could find that in Argentina u can learn welsh (due to welsh immigration in Argentina and welsh schools).

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @56 That's great for the Welsh, but I'm not Welsh. Why not write something about Cornish or Breton while you're at it.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    ------ and now Joaquín Sabina and Juan Manuel Serrat, supporting Argentina. (they are not drunk or on bad state at all).

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Now, Robert Fripp (KING CRIMSON - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27Boom:_Live_in_Argentina), Peter Gabriel, Ion Anderson, Ian Anderson, Bono Vox, they are supporting Argentina by the Twitter.

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    All I have to say on the issue is...
    Joaquín Sabina - WHOOOOO???
    Juan Manuel Serrat - WHOOOOOOOOOOO???
    Robert Fripp - WHOOOOO???
    Peter Gabriel - Not done a good song in years, probably desperate for cash.
    Ian Anderson - WHOOOOOOO???
    Bono Vox - WHOOOOOOOOOO???

    ...that's all I have to say on the issue. Any more retired D-list 1970s pop stars to add to the list?

    Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    60 GreekYoghurt

    They all support Argentina- Garry Glitter, Chas n Dave, Mr Blobby, The Wurzels........

    There is no hope. We're doomed.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Morning All! Nice to see youve all been winding each other up in the traditional manner! I thought id try and lighten the mood:

    I had an argument with a girl I know last night. She was saying how that it's unfair that if a guy f@#ks a different girl every week, he's a legend, but if a girl f@#ks just two guys in a year, she's a slut.

    So in response I told her that if a key opens lots of locks, then it's a master key. But if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock.

    That shut her up.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    60, be careful,
    Bono Vox = U2
    Ian Anderson =Jetro Tull
    Robert Fripp = King Crimson
    Serrat and Sabina = Most Famous Spain Singers!!!
    Ion Anderson = YES
    Peter Gabriel = GENESIS

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AndyMac

    34 stick up your junta

    Does he like anything? He should be well at home in Argentina! He can whine away with his Argie friends about the Malvinas. It'll be a constant drone.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    @63 and 60
    regardless of whether they were in succesful bands or not, they are the same as the rest of us and have an opinion. because they are or have been famous, just means that their opinions are publicised. Doesnt mean they are right or wrong!

    However it is sad that the RG's put so much weight on it! I personally think even if the above list of artists put on a “pro malvina concert”, the only place they would get a good audience would be in RGland. So put them into actual practise and i think you would be able to see is how irrelevant they are to the arguement.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    They say Winston Churchill, my personal hero, couldn't keep tune. But he could certainly think. This gang of performers that Argentina has rounded up can sing. Can they think?

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    64, Argie friends are BRITAINS. They don´t want to stole anything, principally from another country and continent.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (49) Islander1

    I have learned to take your statements with a ”pinch of salt”
    I still remember you ansvering me that a Medevac from Stanley to London costed about 1500£ !

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @61 We can all be sure that Garry's support is not far away. It's a well established fact that along with their love of mullets, Argentinian men have interests in the 'younger female'. This fascination of theirs is regularly focussed on when trolling them in other forums. Mr. Glitter would fit in there.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    61 Unbelievible !!!
    I dont know them, but if they come here and put 2 days before a show all day on TV an easy verse of their song that people can sing (ex ”you are beautiful, you are beautiful, you are beautiful...to me, nara nanna -the rest I dont remember neither understand) the generous people of this country will go to their shows and they will make a lot of money!!

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    you islanders, must start thinking in Argentina as your future country, is a matter of time, do all you people in Malvinas really think Uk likes you?, what Uk want are the natural resources, actually we the Argentinians don t like islanders from Malvinas either, what we want are the islands not all the garbage, the garbage must come back to Uk, next war we will beat Uk, nobody in ghis world wants to be Uk friend anymore and after we retake the islands we will deport all islanders for OCUPAS, all you people are OCUPAS.
    then enjoy the islands for a couple more years, after that I hope the Argentinian government deport and send back to uk all you islanders, cos we don t like KELPERS or second category Uk. again second cayegory mean GARBAGE .
    My best wishes Kelpers:Garbage

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @71 Another morally vacuous argentinian suggesting ethnic cleansing, I see. I cannot imagine why FIslanders dislike you so much.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    70 malen

    I completely believe you. My prediction is that you will see a steady procession of failed and ancient pop singers turning up in Argentina now that they know what to say to sell a few tickets.

    72 GreekYoghurt
    He's probably a British troll ( 71 pepegalleta). The more ludicrously over the top and brainless ones usually are. Shouldn't be fed at any rate.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The Argies love to dream, they even dream up has-beens to support them,
    And a few washed up indocronoughts thrown in for the fun,
    The fact is, they have more chance of mass 40 million suicides, that they have of ever getting the British Falklands, so dream on dreamers lol.
    .

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    74, in 2 years, WE EARN THE SUPPORT against to UK. Nowadays. WE GONNA GET FOR MORE.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Monty69 and you are per sure a SALAME CORNUDO,

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    People, the Mr. Mike Summers is a JOBLESS from New Zealand.
    Perhaps he needed to look for a job in Kermadeck Island!
    Pepegalleta, ur comment is redundant and stos son de terror son (cerebroless).
    Aguante lo Redondo!!!

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Hi Kipling, you are right, esta gente vive en otro planeta, it is a usual british no cerebro people, stiling land all over the world and after that every body believe Cameron lies

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @78 You're in this thread too, retorting exactly what people accused you Argentinians of doing in another thread.

    Are you argentinians even capable of original thought? You can't even get the vocabulary right when you accuse people of piracy.

    very weak.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Desperate, possibly .

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Greek youghurt get a life, you ate here 24/7, watch TV, go to work, do something with your life, are you from de Islands?, that boring is down there?, get a girl, go to the thaeatre, GET A LIFE please your are insane.
    There is a TV chanel in the island?,
    Again Greek youghurt GET A LIFE

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @GreekYoghurt,
    l think you've just been told to improve your lifestyle!
    And he would know. ha ha ha

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    78
    esta gente vive en otro planeta

    [estamos Borg, la resistencia es inútil. ]
    .

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    83
    no viven en las islas debe ser el lugar mas aburrido del mundo para vivir
    pobrecitos

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    english only please lol.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Briton, are you from the islands?, do yoy only speak english?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    The way pepegalleta, Kipling , Marcos Alejandro and Think, keep repeating the same old drivel, must be as a result of OVER indoctrination as a child and as they can no longer make sense or write about anything else, they are probably now all inmates in the same lunatic asylum.

    @39 ynsere -
    How is “ Look at jewish people who like Peron-Hitler” anti- Semitic ?
    I take it as, like turkeys voting for Christmas, because Argentina is strange twisted place
    Or is this just more Argentinian intimidation ?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat I am Jewish and I did not get much antisemitic issues , I played rugby in Argentina and there is where you can find a lot anti jewish people, but I was a big guy at that time and very strong,
    Peron brought to Argentina a lot of nazis but he never did anything against jewish people and remember Israel helped a lot the Argentinian de facto government in 82.
    Argentina has a lot jewish people.
    anti jewish people are all over the world not only in Argentina, I am in US and here there is a lot nazis too

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @88 pepegalleta

    So his remark wasn't anti-Semitic was it and as Peron had brought nazis to Argentina, just because they didn't do anything to the Jews, as they had done in Germany, it could have been naive of them to think it couldn't change.
    I suggest you apologise to GreekYoghurt.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Peron brought to Argentina Naziz like Brasil, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, then you have to talk about almost all south america.
    Plus Argentina is the number 3 larger jewish population in the world
    Greekyoghurt is offensive I don t think I owe him apologise.
    You are smarter than him that is way I apologised to you before

    Salute

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    do yoy only speak english
    is there anything else to speak off ..

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Briton

    Well adk here in US , if you want to be a president you need the latino voto, 18%!latino citizens and mostly soanish speaken. Now is the spanish important or not, Why in Malvinas school are teaching spanish?, the islandas are in south atlantic where almost all states the spanish is the lenguage, what kind of neighbours are or want to be, it doesn t matter what happen.
    I don t think is a bad idea to the islanders to learn how speak spanish as a second lenguage do you?
    About the spanish again, in the US government every year there is more latino Senators, delegates, plus latinos in the presidential cabinet, that is why republicans wants to deport and limetd the avility to latinos to drive, to work, ilegal people here is facen a very bad time, if you read and wants I recomended to you to read about what is happening in Arizona, the goverbment of Arizona is like the nazi regiment, horrible, the only difference is that are not gas chambers. ilegals kids doesn t have the right to go to school, not state healtcare, plus a real persucution, the police has the right to stop you if he think you are ilegal, perhaps, most of the ilegal inmigration comes from Mexico and are really white, that is the motive to stop this people and then deport the poir guy, but there is a lot mire, read about it.

    salute

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @92 pepegalleta
    You answer your own dilemma and don’t seem to be aware of it or don’t care:

    “US government every year there is more latino Senators, delegates, plus latinos in the presidential cabinet, that is why republicans wants to deport and limetd the avility to latinos to drive, to work”…….
    “ilegals kids doesn t have the right to go to school, not state healtcare, plus a real persucution, the police has the right to stop you if he think you are ilegal, perhaps, most of the ilegal inmigration comes from Mexico and are really white, that is the motive to stop this people and then deport the poir guy, but there is a lot mire, read about it.”

    The poor guys? They shouldn’t be trying to get into the USA, your instinct is to take over everywhere, of course illegals have NO rights in the USA, except to go back to where they came from and sort their own country out so they don’t want to leave.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat you need to get more information about Arizona and Alabama new laws anti inmigration, I become American citizen ling time ago just to don t get any problems in the near future, but what this republicans are doing here is like Hitler did, persucution is an anacronismo, all the inmigration or most of those people come here just to works in jobs that nobody want to do here, there are several studys about the relevance of the ilegal inmigration.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @94 pepegalleta

    I don't need any familiarisation on immigration issues, I see with my own eyes what happens, firstly you allow or invite unskilled people into the country to do those jobs we find difficult to fill, only to find that many are not very good at them, always looking for ways to avoid doing them properly. Bad enough but it gets worse, as these people have lots of children, many of which don’t do well at school, but will not do those same types of jobs and just want to live on benefits or either turn to crime/drugs, or want to change society into that, which caused their parents to come to the country in the first place.
    I’ve gone politically from leftish to right, because you can lead someone drink but you cannot make them drink it.
    OK that’s their choice, BUT no benefits, (it’s not what they are for) or anything else, I’m not paying to keep them. If they commit any crime it’s a one way ticket to where their parents came from.
    So I can completely understand Arizona and Alabama etc. attitudes.

    So no doubt we are ideologically apposed.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Redcoat yes we thinj different about it, but mostly of ilegal people here are not criminals, but under Arizona and Alabama ilegals are criminals but they are not, don t forget that US had been build with inmigrants, what is the difference now?, if all ilegal people stop working here US will be in default soon, it is impossible to run US with out ilegal people.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @96 pepegalleta
    You make a very good point, this is the USA's dilemma, let more in to continue with one generation of cheap labour and land up like Mexico, or stop them coming and do away with the false American dream.
    America initially wanted the immigrants as comsumers but they didn't close the door when they should have because of having to get elected and because people always want more. They have created their own downfall.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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