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Change in Argentine policy is “an attempt to collect support and look less mean”

Monday, March 5th 2012 - 06:04 UTC
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The apparent change in Argentine policy towards the Falkland Islands by offering three direct flights to the Islands from Buenos Aires instead of cutting the air link with Chile, as had been anticipated, was described by Chilean diplomatic sources as “an attempt to collect international support and look less mean”. Read full article


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  • brit abroad

    Is it just me or can others also see the resemblance

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    tune into BBC radio 4 tonight monday 5th March 8pm and you will hear how france betrayed britain in the 1982 Falklands conflict.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    We know they did! But our realtions with France has been topsy turvy for hundreds of years! It's not really new news!

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @2 They didn't betray the UK in the Falklands War, that's just an urban myth. Everyone was selling weapons to the Argentinians, including the British who sold them naval craft.

    The french gave us the codes to the missiles they sold them. Sadly that didn't work so well. They also tried to re-buy all the missiles off the market in their defence.

    Suggesting the French were bad, when the Israelis were sending missiles, training and other military equipment to the dark side during the war is just you Argies trying to change history again.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands


    I assume that relates to French exocet technicians remaining in Argentina to prepare the five air to surface missiles they already had?

    France was stuck between being a trusted arms exporter and supporting the UK against a despot.

    It was covered in Nigel West's book “The Secret War For The Falklands”

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ 5 idlehands
    “”France was stuck between being a trusted arms exporter and supporting the UK against a despot.“”

    By this statement I take it you are defending France's treachery?
    But then perhaps you didn't know that France had pledged it's support in maintaining an arms embargo on argentina.
    I suggest you listen to the BBC tonight and you might enlighten yourself

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    France didn't betray the UK, in fact it was possibly Britain's biggest ally (apart from USA of course) during the conflict. France worked hard to help the UK after realising the mistake it made with Argentina prior to the conflict.

    It provided the UK with fighters to train against and also secret information on the Exocet missiles.

    The UK has forgiven the French for selling Argentina weapons and moved on.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Thatcher labelled Mitterand one of her most important allies during the conflict. It should be noted that none of the air to surface exocets actually detonated on impact - they just behaved like an artillery shell but with fuel to burn too. Whether that was related to the French technicians I don't know. If they had detonated their explosives the Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor would have sunk much more quickly.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    I may have missed something, but i have just gone through BBC 4 scedule from the 4th to the 6th and cant find any reference to a show about France and the falklands....does anyone have the link?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ Idlehands
    I suggest you stop now before you make a yourself look silly because it was AFTER it became a apparent that the exocets were faulty that France sent down technicians to fix them which means that France sent those technicians to Argentina AFTER the conflict had started.

    And Mitterand actually called Thatcher an imperialist war monger which says a lot of French duplicity - but then it is their custom isn't it?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    4 Don't know whether this is true but supposedly France only provided the codes when they believed the UK was preparing a nuclear strike against Argentina.
    Looking forward to listening to the Radio 4 programme.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Back on track chaps......

    the crap KFC y Coy have tried over the last 10 years has failed.....

    They are now trying some other shite.... the KFC utopian paradise will have imploded long before this new plan achieves critical mass...

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Where's the link to Mitterands “imperialist warmonger” pronouncements then?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian


    Frank my questions are starting to focus on what Argentina is going to do when diplomacy and economically they are shown to be impotent.

    do we know how far the RG's are willing to take this issue.

    do we think that eventually their macho posturing will get the better of them and they will be egged on by other countries to do something aka invade again?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @14,13,12 Best to just ignore the nonsense about the french, they helped us out when it was needed and for that they get a tipping of the hat from me.

    Moving along, judging from what I've seen recently, the Argentinians are clearly trying anything to 'troll' the British. They're desperate to get some kind of emotional response out of us, and some kind of recognition that there is an sovereignty issue in the news. Thankfully the newspapers have failed to print much about all this nonsense and so the Argies in a fit of desperation tried to inject bias into a poll and then claim the British are all anti-falklands. It just gets more and more desperate, and the best we can do is just not rise to it.

    To be fair, I couldn't care less, I just like making the argies blood boil, because it's good sport.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I wonder what Old Smooth Neck will come up with next?

    If they spent half the time they are wasting on this matter with putting the country on an even keel and moving forward internationally it would be one thing, but this persistent nonsense is just a joke.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @16 I'm struggling to think of what she's going to do next. We can be assured that it's going to be something seemingly positive but really quite negative.

    The fact is, she's gone past the point of no return for putting it onto a even keel. Once you're dipping into the foreign reserves of your central bank, you're not only entering the final stage before the crash, but you're also making no one ever want to deal with your central bank again once it does crash. You cannot even claim that it's an independent entity separated from government control.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    Can someone explain why its claimed that Argentinian agreement is required for flights from Chile to the Falklands?

    Surely the flightpath would go over the Straits of Magellan to reach Punta Arenas? The Straits of Magellan are an international waterway under the Law of the Sea Convention (ratified by the UK, Argentina and Chile), and te Convention allows free passage of ships through such straits AND aircraft over them.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @18 What you're not taking into account is that Argentina thinks it's owns everything and if anyone flies a plane near Chile, then they get upset. They also rarely read or abide by anything they sign. They try to bend any law to support what they're saying by omitting important facts like the one you just mentioned.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    @19 yes, silly me to think that they might actually consider themselves bound by international law!

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    The Islanders must now realise that the support for them is simply not there. The BBC and the Guardian are running their own polls and they too- in addition to the recent Telegraph survey - have proven to be disappointing, but this has to be expected as Britain is a very different country to what it was in 1982 largely because of the labour Party's determination to socially re-engineer the social structure of the country.
    Immigration into Britain since 1982 is close to 10 million and many of those families have produced offspring who possess much of the same attitude of their parents - in that they have no real sense of identity with Britain, so when the call comes to rally to the flag the first question they ask is ....which flag?
    And the rest of the population to whom the government might appeal for support in any call to arms over the Falklands were not even alive in 1982 so what does it mean to them - at a time when they can't fill their cars with gas or buy the insurance for them or even find a job?
    Why would they support a conflict with south america over a bunch of Islands they were not even aware existed?
    You guys can spam this site all you want but you're voice is not being heard outside of it.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Ah trying to undermine support now eh?

    One fictitious poll proves nothing when the poll was over-run by Argentinians as referenced by the comments section. To be honest if the Argentinians were smarter they'd of not left comments that clearly show they massively affected voting but hey-ho they are not.

    If you actually knew anything about the UK, you'd know the Falklands are now considered a national symbol of our identity and given UK lives were lost in the conflict there is about zero chance of this changing.

    Everything else you said is meaningless spam.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    21 Dreyfoss

    Are you some sort of addictive medication that you are not letting us know about?

    Support for the Falkland Islands IS THERE. Where it matter the most. With the Britsih people and with the British Government. If anyone in power even thought about selling the Falkland Islanders they would be signing their own political death warrants.

    In your niavity the thing you seem to be forgetting is that these days, you can pretty much get a poll to reflect, just about anything. all it takes is a little massaging of the figures, so intelligent people don't take them seriously.

    Unless you are clutching at straws in the first place and want some distorted figures to back up your twisted point of view.......

    oh hang on..........

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Dreyfoss appears to be joining the typical Argentine approach - pretend black is white, up is down, left is right and if you say it often enough it must be or become true.

    The simple truth about the rest of the world is that they couldn't care less one way or the other.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I think to be honest, this is a good sign for the UK when the Argentine supports are getting so desperate they have to resort to fictitious polls in an attempt to prove something.

    Each week we see them reach a new level of desperation, the only question is how low will they go?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    More pressure on the RG's:

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @26 Excuse the bad translation “It is also true that the reputation of Argentina in the international business community has deteriorated. There are few complaints that the country receives not only the holdouts, but the fault for not respecting international tribunals such as ICSID, the World Bank, and more recently, for violating trade agreements with barriers to imports imposed by the Secretary of Domestic Trade, ”

    I wonder how they're going to spin that one.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ cestrian
    A New York court ruled in favor of Elliot Management Corp.’s NML Capital fund and ordered Argentina to pay interest on its defaulted debt, newspaper La Nacion reported, citing a Feb. 23 ruling.

    NML Capital is what is known as 'vulture' fund - one of many that bought south american debt knowing that the debtor would default thereby allowing the company to take the case to court and force a settlement which involves staged ineterest payments designed never to reduce the principle.
    Most countries in south america now simply ignore the US court decision as they consider them rigged in favor of the complainents charge.
    The same company is alos involved in buying packages of euro debt - greece for example - and this company is alleged to be complicit in a conspiracy with other vulture funds to stall the ECB bailout for greece thus forcing the country to default.
    I know all this because I worked for one. These are parasitical entities run by sociopathic scum who would happily drive an entire population to starvation and death for the sake of quick profit.
    You know - the same sort of mentality that is driving europe to economic catastrophe when instead they should be doing what Iceland is presently doing - dragging those responsible before the courts and jailing them.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian


    the Yanks are after you. More and more stories now about Argentina being backed into an economic corner and raiding whats left of the national “silver” to try and pay for it.

    I have no doubt that as we speak both the Yanks and the Brits will be now considering ways of economically crippling your country, which to be fair is only right, due to your ludicrous posturing and rhetoric.

    People dont like having their assets stolen and then being told to “fuckoff” when asked for repayment.

    You are a country not to be trusted.

    2012 could be an end game for the current Argentine regime but when backed into a corner ridiculous ways out of it are sought.

    War with Great Britain? Dont rule that out from your crackpot government.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @18 Something that you don't seem to be taking account of is the international borders. You need to look at a map. I have doubts as to whether UNCLOS was formulated in such a way as to enable a civil airline pilot to throw an aircraft all over the sky in order to stay above the Beagle Channel. Equally, an aircraft travelling east from Punta Arenas would, at some stage, cross into argie airspace. To avoid argie airspace, one needs to take into account two factors. The direction of the land border when it reaches the coast and the distance from the coast that the argies regard as theirs. The direction of the land border between Chile and argieland when it reaches the coast is south. And let's say the argies claim to control the waters up to 200 miles from their coast. Roughly speaking, I estimate that an airliner would need to fly 200 miles south from Punta Arenas to reach the coast and then a further 200-250 miles south so that, when it turns east, it could be sure of avoiding argie airspace. That adds 400-450 miles to the route. LAN has the aircraft capable of the flight BUT there must be a question mark over whether the route would be economic. Remember that that is an additional 800-900 miles for each return flight. Looking up flight information, a one-way fare already costs around £500 and the flight takes between 17 and 30 hours depending on stopovers. There's a lot to think about!

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    28. The term “vulture funds” is much like “banksters” made up by the media or in your case the gov't to imply they are doing something bad.
    The courts in the USA are well respected and we have the ability to enforce the judgments worldwide. Argentina is very close to losing it's ability to trade in the U$. The US courts can, and most likely will, allow any U$ denominated Arg gov't payments to be used to satisfy the judgments even BCRA funds. It will all be decided this summer in the US Supreme Courts. It will be fun to watch what happens if the case goes against Arg and the reserves are wiped out. Very fun to watch.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian


    there isnt really anything to think about.

    If you wish to stop the LAN flight then all that will happen is that you will look like the aggressor, Chile will be pissed off and 250 of its citizens cant get home.

    Obviously another route will be forthcoming.

    you ultimately hold no aces.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @28 “These are parasitical entities run by sociopathic scum who would happily drive an entire population to starvation and death for the sake of quick profit.”

    Sounds pretty much identical to Argentina then.

    @30 “a one-way fare already costs around £500 and the flight takes between 17 and 30 hours depending on stopovers.” well a flight to Cape town would be a little more, and would probably only take 8 hours. I don't see why they don't just invest in a plane to fly between cape town and back, it might take a while to pay back, but they could fly to St Helena (in 2014) too and then on to other 'interesting' parts of Africa.

    Start bringing in Eco-tourists from Africa instead.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    The only achievement of the Argentine government is the distraction of the population from the impending financial collapse. The writing is on the wall.

    Nothing else has been achieved. Nothing has changed with regards to the Falklands and nothing will change unless the Islanders wish it. DC has made it perfectly clear that the UK will support the Falklanders and defend them if necessary.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @21 WOW! Your figures and arguments are really impressive. But, could I ask - if the UK has accepted nearly 10 million immigrants since 1982, and those immigrants have been producing offspring, and people who were already in the UK have also been producing offspring, why has the population only gone from 56,324,000 to 62,026,000? That's only 5,702,000! Perhaps you might want to consider the ethnicity of the UK population. Did you know that 92.14% of the UK population is white? That's “white British”, “white Irish” and “white other”. So only 7.86% of the population “might” be those immigrants you're relying on. Except that the UK has been accepting immigrants from all over for many, many years. Black people, asian people, Indian people, even Chinese people. You could also take a look at the ethnicity of the UK armed forces. Oh, dear, much the same. How do you think the families of those black, asian, Indian and chinese members of the forces are going to feel when the actions of a bunch of south american gangsters forces the British government to send their sons and daughters “down south”? I don't think they're going to be very happy with you! How is your campaign amongst the Scots going? Strangely, I haven't seen any mass public protests in support of your cause. Could that be because one of the units that arrived with the Task Force 30 years ago was the Scots Guards? Or just that the Scots have the same opinion as the rest of us about you dozy lot?

    @32 Of course I hold aces. I believe in freedom, justice and democracy. I support the Falklanders. I'm British. And so is God. There you are - 4 aces. I also have a Queen. You can't beat that without a typical argie trick such as dealing from the sleeve!

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hugh60

    She lies, she is playing rethoric games to cover up her bad administration. She sucks.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    33 Greek

    Just one point on that: the airport at St Helena won't be big enough to receive flights from the Falklands.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ragemar

    I am here in the UK. We won't betray the FLers. Even during Labour's years that wouldn't happen. Whoever did that would go down in history as worse than Chamberlain. As for general opinion, aside from a few lefties, the British public are sick of argy whining. The Armed Forces are positively up for it. Soldiers love to soldier.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Anyone think CFK gets up in the morning and immediately makes up a new foreign policy? Either that or they plan to have a new one each day of the week.

    Imagine being the foreign minister? The poor bugger must be the most over-worked person in Argentina.........

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    39 Xect

    Is anyone running the country while she is coming up with these Falklands master plans?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @39 The mafia?

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @18 DJ56
    Can someone explain why its claimed that Argentinian agreement is required for flights from Chile to the Falklands? Surely the flightpath would go over the Straits of Magellan to reach Punta Arenas? The Straits of Magellan are an international waterway under the Law of the Sea Convention (ratified by the UK, Argentina and Chile), and te Convention allows free passage of ships through such straits AND aircraft over them.”

    Yes, the direct route crosses no RG land.... but for some reason ( RG thuggery) the flights all go over the top of Rio Gallegos..... which adds distance to every flight.

    I reckon as soon as the FIG gets some oil dosh they should buy their own 'plane and put it on the MPA-Puerto Williams-Punta Arenas run....

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Everything she tries, fails,
    Her speeches fail,
    Her shouting fails
    Her demands fail
    Her aggression fails,
    And sooner or later, CFK will fail,
    And fall by the wayside .

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    Major General Julian Thompson said yesterday:
    ”“The Argentines have a marine brigade. They’ve got a parachute brigade and some good special forces. All they’ve got to do is get those guys on to the islands for long enough to destroy the [RAF] Typhoon jets and that’s the end of it.”

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    dreyfoss - I hope you do it....really really do, just hope you get the planes and no lives are lost!

    Once youve done that then.......well you'll have really f@#ked your chances of ever getting your grubby little sausage fingers on the Falklands

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Prince Harry's Secret Mission

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    just read that the rg's in brazil are planning to dirupt prince harry trip to brazil

    pathetic that they seem so scared and provoked by a young lad doing his job...... have agreed to entertain him????.....the botox reich aint going to like that.

    RG's you are a bunch of losers, do any of you have a spine?

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    45 brit abroad (#) Mar 06th, 2012 - 03:22 am Report abuse
    “ dreyfoss - I hope you do it....really really do, just hope you get the planes and no lives are lost! Once youve done that then.......well you'll have really f@#ked your chances of ever getting your grubby little sausage fingers on the Falkland”

    You should read my post again and this time slowly as they are not my words but the words of Major General Julian Thompson .
    I have said consistently that Argentina does not have the means nor the intention of ever resorting to military force in this dispute.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    i know they were the words of major Thompson, and maybe read my post again! Did i imply in anyway that i thought you had said it! No!

    I was simply stating that i hope your guys tried to do it!

    So, dont try to be clever as we all know that there are single celled organism living at the bottom of the ocean with more intellect than you!

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dreyfoss

    @ 49
    and I have no doubt you will be first to volunteer - if Britain actually still has a military and if you can pass the British army literacy test.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Dreyfoss???????????????/ What are you talking about you absolute tit!

    1) A clue to my national allegience is my name! So why would i be enlisting?
    2) I did not advocate war, i just suggest RG try taking out the military hardware on the Islands (they can then run back to which every swamp they crawled out of). Then we sit back and see what the international community say. Thats why i think it would be interesting to see.
    3) regarding dont have any so dont try as you're embarresing yourself.

    A joke a posted previously that applies to you!

    Having an arguement with an RG is like playing chess with a pigeon.

    You could be the best chess player in the world, but the pigeon would knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and still strut around triumphantly.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Did anyone actually listen to the R4 broadcast last night? It wasn't as damning as I'd expected. Ended with a Frenchman accusing the Dassault and other technicians that were in Argentina of treason against the French Republic.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The point is,
    Can she,, will she, why would she , how would she ,
    But what if ??
    Well if she, can she, will she,
    You will never know, until it has been done,
    Histories will re-peat its self, sadly it is inevitable,
    And sadly, you will lose again, and again,

    Perhaps argentine’s leaders should try another profession, like running a country ? .

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    Regardless of what happened in the 1980s, I would guess that France's current position would be behind the UK. Yes, the leaders don't like each other, but remember, the greedy Chavezsphere would undoubtedly LOVE to get its hands on French Guiana in a couple of years. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't France have a territorial dispute with Madagascar over some islands?

    In the end, the Falklands are not only British territory, but they are European territory, giving Europe access to Antarctica and another oil well that isn't in the volatile Middle East. The Falkland Islanders are citizens of the EU because they have British passports and therefore, I'm sure they are protected under various EU treaties. This is most likely why Spain have dropped their support for Argentina. Maybe it's time KFC gave up? Make a new claim to Swaziland or somewhere less capable of defending itself.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    no country will allow a free democracy, to be handed over to a dictatorship,
    so why worry,
    argentina [or its goverment] is just wissing in the wind .

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #28 Spot on. That any ordinary people, as I presume our rightwing posters are, could still support these bastards after everything they've done, to the point of indignation against Cristina for defying them, is really quite depressing, and just shows how out of touch they are.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    56 British_Kirchnerist

    The Mad Bitch is on her way out! See the B.A. Herald for the details.

    Ha,Ha, ad infinitum. :o)

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    but will her devoted bloggers afford to follow her into paradise,

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #57 I have checked, alarmed at what you were saying as if a nightmanre was coming true by means of coup, death or (least likely of all, given her inner strength) resignation; or even for some significant bad news that could bring forward your long hoped for day. No news on google, nothing on mercopress itself, and nothing but this piece of routine bias in the BA Herald
    You couldn't just be talking about a twisted OPINION piece could you? Or just telling lies...

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    inner strength??? She sure likes playing 'the girlie card'... that isn't a sign of inner strength.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Yeah and the macho chest beating of the British nationalists on here shows real inner strength! But theres no need to have an argie bargie about the incidentals of my post, when we can all agree on the essentials; Chris was telling porkies and his near namesake Cris isn't going anywhere =)

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    61 British_Kirchnerist

    As you are incapable of resolving things for yourself here is the link to the BA Herald: read it for yourself.

    BTW Unlike you I do not lie. I do not have a good enough memory for it and I learnt that when I was very young, about 10 years ols as far as I can remember.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Ok so it wasn't lies, it was the other possibility I mentioned, jumping to conclusions based on an opinion piece. If I impuned your honor unjustly i apologise; will you do the same for having called me unable to research, yet if you look at #59 I've already flagged up the same article as you!

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    63 British_Kirchnerist

    Sorry, so you have.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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