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UK minister Browne to meet Piñera two days ahead of Cristina Fernandez
The UK’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Jeremy Browne arrives Monday in Chile for a two day visit and has scheduled a meeting with President Sebastián Piñera. The event consequently takes place just before Argentine President Cristina Fernández official visit on March 15 and in the lead up to the 30th anniversary of the Malvinas War. Read full article
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Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another monday - what madness can we look forward to this week?
Another muppets!!!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about “Christina Begs Brazil to Stop Sale of Oilfield to Norwegian State Buyer” on the grounds that the UK minister responsible for southern hemisphere relations clearly, from his ginger hair, is the descendent of a Viking pirate. Oh, and we wouldn't want a particular American oil company to be free to go elsewhere, would we?
Mar 12th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Pinera will be reminded of the fact that Chile no longer needs to bend over for KFC
Mar 12th, 2012 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0kiwi, i think you will find you are the real muppet!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 I geuss thats the first bit of madness that we had to look forward to this week. Now we can all take the piss out of you. As given you live in new zealand, it is you that is the muppet e.g. ignorant and has no idea what hes on about lol.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 I don't think Pinera is able to stand up straight any more.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm British, a keen observer of my country's politics, and have never heard of Jeremy Brown, and thought the photo was of a loutish footballer. The idea that he can match Cristina is beyond parody
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Match KFC at what exactly? Turkey-necking?
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8. I'll wager he's never heard of you either.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just for the record, I don't believe for one moment that you are British.
8- He has been Minister of State at the Foreign Office for some time with responsibility for EU affairs and South America and Caribbean. Straght talker and does a fair job. Wouldn,t take much to match CFK anyway!
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 02- Really you should give up and gracefully admit defeat! So far this year Arg has achieved ZERO over the Islands from your side.
CFK has actually done us a wonderful service in raising our profile internationally and getting the Islands an immense - and still ongoing - amount of media coverage world wide - it would have cost us millions!!
You banned 2 large British flagged cruise ships from Ushuaia- and people there lost at leats US$1million! In response another Br flagged one cancelled out a trip to Buenos Aires and the larger of the original 2- Star Princess subsequently cancelled her next Ushuaia call and went to Punta Arenas instead. What a Success Operation Ushuaia achieved!!
CFK has tried Lan to get them to drop the flight - they gave a negative response.
Your maritime blockade is failing - a cargo ship recently went direct to Chile and back through the Magellan Straits.
Fishing vessels operating here continue to call at S American ports.
Twitman,s militarization appeal to the UN fell flat on its face when it was so obvious he was telling fantasy stories with stupid pictures of peaceful operations!
Several S.American newspapers and politicians are now starting to question the Argentine rhetoric - even within Argentina.
I could go on!
Yes CFK could still stop the flight by withdrawinfg airspace right but that will mean the international finger will be pointed straight at her! She might increase the bribe and blackmail to Chile this week - if it works who looses the most? - answer is Chile and Argentina!! Not the Islands.
There are around 5000 UK passport holder residents in Chile and over 60000 UK nationals visit each year.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ladies, before the freaks and uniques awaken, I found this interesting gem from my usual dredge through political science journals. Peruse at your pleasure, especially the part about self-determination.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Security Council Resolution 502, on April 3, 1982, was the immediate reaction to the Argentine takeover, and surely a major accomplishment of the British Foreign Office, which set the favorable conditions upon which the United Kingdom would develop its actions during the conflict. The resolution essentially demanded an im- mediate Argentine withdrawal from the islands and called upon both governments to seek “a diplomatic solution to their differences and to respect fully the purposes and principles of the charter of the UN.”47 This reference to the charter was not a formal detail: It gave Britain the rights of (a) citing the principle of self-determination for the Falklanders in any negotiation and (b) relying on the principle of individual and collective self-defense if armed attack occurred. Resolution 502 has to be broadly as- sessed more as the result of seventeen years of fumbling UN intervention than the inevitable first answer to an armed attack. Seen in that light, it can also be considered as another step back in the way of any viable outcome, since it raised the principle of “self-determination” as a prerequisite, whereas the UN policy on the matter from 1965 had been guided by the “interests” of the islands’ population—interpreted as security, traditional lifestyle, civil rights, and other matters on the part of Argentina, and as “wishes” by the British, but leaving room for a technical and political under- standing. Any hope for progress since Resolution 2065 had certainly been through this open door. Now, the UN had closed it and added a full-fledged third party to the process.
(Source: 1 Seton Hall J. Dipl. & Int'l Rel. 79 (2000)
Lessons from Failure: The Falklands/Malvinas Conflict; Laucirica, Jorge O.)
@ 14 stelyo
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0you are wasting your time writing long comments instead of to write it's link.
@15 you need to focus on this part:
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0”The resolution essentially demanded an im- mediate Argentine withdrawal from the islands and called upon both governments to seek “a diplomatic solution to their differences and to respect fully the purposes and principles of the charter of the UN.”47 This reference to the charter was not a formal detail: It gave Britain the rights of (a) citing the principle of self-determination for the Falklanders in any negotiation and (b) relying on the principle of individual and collective self-defense if armed attack occurred.”
This is the part you have to focus on... parts A and B
16 GreekYoghurt
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the key is in his “you are wasting your time writing” (to any Argies as we are always right, even though the UN says not.)
This numbnut wanabee Scott, who will not answer my question as to where he is living, is totally bereft of intelligence given his previous drivels.
@8 - Brilliant post, you don't know who he is but of course he's no match for CFK, strong logic there.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a bit like saying before a drag race, I don't know anything about that car but there is no way it can match the other car.....
And to be fair CFK has done nothing but humiliate herself on the world stage and in recent times has only been outshone by Timmerman's comedy show at the UN.
Even CFK said herself 'I'm tired of being humiliated' - My advice to her would be to stop sparing with a far more capable opponent then!
14 GreekYoghurt
Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you mean “before the freaks and uniques awaken...” I've just woken up and.................Oh, hang on a minute.....I get it now.......sorry about that.........
before the freaks and uniques awaken
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0G_uc9FN6o&feature=related
Piñera is going to remain neutral... it is of no interest for Chile to have a clinch with any of both parties.
Mar 12th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has the bigger economic impact on Chile.
UK and the islanders have to most sympathies from the Chilean population.
I guess neutrality is going to help the Islanders a bit more.
By the way, I am very curious, how Piñera is going to present the counter measures against Argentine imports, due to the previous blockade Argentina has impossed. This is not going to be very tasty for Cristina.
An amusing cartoon on CFK
Mar 12th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vys78sGB7Y
All we can really do here,
Mar 12th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is wait and see what the outcome is, both men have there say,,
Then see what happens in CFK head, and the reaction it causes,
Then when CFK visits Chile we can see the resulting fun,
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He's a Lib-Dem which means he's a cock gobbler - he'll change his mind next week
Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope CFK stop the flights to the islands from Chile, after all is Argentina air right to stop the flights, it is time for Argentina to start making money with the flights, I am not talking about sovereinty, I am talking about business
Mar 13th, 2012 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 22 “las malvinas give me las malvinas” roflmao
Mar 13th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 25 Yes, I hope she does that exactly, that will be the end of your stupid claims, and the world we'll see that you are trash, plain and simple.
The Mercopre$$ title say: “ UK minister Browne to meet Piñera..”
Mar 14th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And again repeat later: “ The UK’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Jeremy Browne arrives Monday in Chile for a two day visit and has scheduled a meeting with President Sebastián Piñera. ”
Well, is a LIE
Piñera didnt receive him....the president dont give a minute to this minister.
FACT
26
Mar 14th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well, you are not really be happy when all the fresh products that we enjoy in Argentina and US in my case are not going to be in the islands, after all you daid that the islands nlbeling to UK, then go and ask Uk for groceries and fresh products.
And if the islandsrs needs cheap labor people like the chileans now you have the opportunity to show your patriotismo and go to fish every morning.
After all you and all islanders say that People in malvinas doesn t need anything from us.
Is time to the islanders to grow up and face the real wirld.
Do you wsnt fresh vegetables and fresh beef, well start investing to have it, every body here or every islander critica how Argentina government manage thecountry and trades, as I told you now you have the opportunity to show the world what islanders can do, growing vegetables, beef, etc
There is only 3000 islanders and 180 years can t develop any way to make foid in the islands.
Again GROW UP and then you ll have the right tocriticR Argentina, till that time come up just shut up and work,
At least grow some onions to eat.
it is easy to talk bullshit about Argentina, what about islanders?
#22 its easy enough to make your opponents look bad guy when your writing their lines for them, doesn't prove anything. I think the same style of youtube video cartoon was used for a conversation with a US Tea Partier which made the Tea Partier look reasonable and their opponent look stupid! The funny thing with this video is that despite its evident hostility to her, Cristina still really does look “so beautiful” in it =)
Mar 15th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11Furry-Fat-Feck,
Mar 16th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0B_K actually says he is Scottish
That makes him British if he really is Scottish.
l think he's a troll.
Either that or he's drank some of CFK's bathwater.
Love does strange things to people.
The cartoon is better looking than she is!
There is no government in Malvinas, only colonial pirates who have great big hand of Britain in their backsides.
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0They must be removed from these islands, which belong to Argentina even before Argentina exist, it was taken from them. This and also by grace of God and Papal Bull of 1496!
In 1982 we have a much more macho government than today, we had a man in charge and no ordinary man, he was a General, from Italy, same country my grandparents came from, fleeing from British and American Imperialists after WW2 (it would take several generations and Berlusconi to put right what they did to Italy).
General Galtieri did not take no for an answer, he sent a great military force with special forces under command of our counter terrorist officers like Captain Alfredo Astiz, who is now in prison and should be freed!
These were the men who removed 50,000 left wing terrorists from our streets and delivered them into the Atlantic. We are proud that they had the guts to do what was necessary.
But today I listen to the BBC and it seems there are more left wing in our nation. I am in The Bahamas at the moment working in hotel so out of touch with my country. It seems all the strong people leave and only weak left remain.
But still there are veterans prepared to attack the police for medals for Malvinas War as they protected Patagonia from a British invasion, they deserve these medals, Police should not keep them from them.
Pirates and Anglos i hate all of you. Even here in the Bahama, have to put up with your Royal family, Prince Harry and the descendants of your Caribbean pirates some of which now Mullatos but others prefer stay white. I myself do not like. Or the children of British colonial pirates!
GO HOME BEFORE WE SEND YOU TO YOUR HOMES.
#31 Your a fascist, the evil murdering child-snatching bastards you support are rightly in jail, thanks the beautiful progressive Cristina and her husband who they failed to “dissapear” when they had the chance, and who have achieved much more on the islands issue through peace than the macho brute Galtieri did through war (if it wasn't for him the Malvinas would probably be Argentine already, even the British public debate often acknowledges that). If your so against colonialism, what about the colonialism of the fascist regime that the US and UK along with the heroic Italian partisan resistance overthrew, making you a refugee from democracy or so you say; what about Mussolini's colonial murders in Libya, Ethiopia, Albania, Greece, Yugoslavia; what about its invitation of German agression into Italy itself in 43-45?
Mar 17th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greek et all take note, some Argentines are fascist, just like some British support the BNP and EDL, but Kirchnerists and Cristinistas of all nationalities have nothing but contempt for them
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