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The Summit of the Americas will discuss the Falklands/Malvinas issue

Tuesday, March 27th 2012 - 02:11 UTC
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The UK/Argentina Falklands/Malvinas dispute is among the short list of topics to be discussed at the coming VI Summit of the Americas, announced on Monday Colombian Foreign Affairs minister Maria Angela Holguin. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    ”Holguin said that the 34 leaders or their representatives will support “Argentina’s sovereignty pretension over the Malvinas”.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Yes well done marcos, you have just successfully copied part of the article above..........Congratulations!

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    “....Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, which can not be expected to support the Argentine sovereignty claim over the Falklands.....”

    Do you thnk he already pay ?

    :)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/96363/uks-cameron-pledges-inquiry-on-cash-for-access-claim

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 2 don't be bad, #1 is a special kid with special needs.

    @ 3 Cristina llorando por los limones sniff sniff sniff, now that's funny :)

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1459856-cristina-recordo-que-la-argentina-no-puede-ingresar-ni-un-limon-a-eeuu

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    3 so_far

    Most likely he was invited to one of those David Cameron's private dinners...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/9168388/Cash-for-access-David-Camerons-private-dinners-for-donors-revealed.html

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Same old countries saying the same old things to ..... each other ! Yawn.

    Nothing will change :-)

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    This should be interesting, pointless but interesting...

    ”However any declaration or statement on the issue “won’t go further than what has been said in the framework of the Organization of American States, OAS”

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    “won't go further” - in other words, more yapping, bitching and whining while knowing deep down that they're far too weak to actually DO anything lol.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    # 6 Roger,

    “..Same old countries saying the same old things ...”

    yes of course, everybody knows Malvinas are Argentinean.......even you know that

    :)

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KFC de Pollo

    Was the Falkland Island Government invited to this?
    What about French Guyana?

    If not why not?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    #10 Is a summit of states of the Americas...not obsolete colonies, thats a big difference

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    10
    No the“FIG” fruit was not invited because is not a country is a British colony.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    12 It would be a country if the americans stop harassing them...... and let them live in peace ! a word your not familiar with ! If you take the oil out of the equation there would be no OAS meeting...

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wake me up when something remotely interesting happens that is not the same old “all talk, but no action” pettiness that doesn't change a thing.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    So the summit of the Americas will discuss the Falklands. I am really happy for them.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Discuss it all you like your not getting them.
    They are now are pprecioussssssssss

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    This will make an enormous difference to some people, because they'll be paid good money for going. I'd prefer the diplomats of my country (Uruguay) to stay at home and spend the money on education and public health, which are deteriorating fast. Or perhaps they could organise a soup kitchen for people thrown out of work by Argentina's restrictions on imports.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Watching kakistocracies pat each other on the back about overtly expansionist foreign policies while their nazi ringleader systematically furks them all into their shoes with economic policies designed only to help itself, is my favourite TV sport.

    What's your favourite sport?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    First....Argentina and Britain should adjust their own stances..

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @19 What the hell is that supposed to mean? UK's stance is fine. Just listen to what the Islanders want and go with that.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    | 20|

    Both countries are having political and economic problems at the moment similar to 1982 waer period ...

    The unstable political situation could add to fuel to the conflict as Argentina has called on the UN to intervene in its favor and the US has refused to back the UK over its soverignty position....[ US official declared that : the US recognized de facto UK administration of the islands but takes no position on the soverignty claims of either party ]

    US has also declined to back Britain's claim that oil exploration near the islands is sanctioned by International Law,saying that the dispute is strictly a bilateral issue.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    This probably needs to be said in big letters that our Argie friends can understand so here goes:

    THIS WILL MAKE NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER TO THE ISSUE AT HAND. THERE IS NO ISSUE AS FAR AS THE UK ARE CONCERNED. THE UK GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD YOU THAT WHEN THE FALKLAND ISLANDERS DECIDE THAT THEY WISH TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGE FROM THE STATUS QUO THEN THEY WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW. HOWEVER THEY DONT AND ITS UNLIKELY THAT THEY EVER WILL. THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSIONS WITH THE RG'S OVER THIS ISSUE UNTIL THEY DROP THEIR SOVEREIGNTY CLAIM ANYWAY AND NO DISCUSSIONS CAN BEGIN AND END WITH ARGENTINA OWNING THE ISLANDS.

    ANYWAY IT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THAT THE RG'S WANT TO SORT THIS ISSUE OUT ANYWAY AS WHAT WOULD YOUR GOVERNMENT BLEAT ABOUT IF THEY COULDNT BLEAT ABOUT THE FALKLANDS EVERYTIME YOU GO INTO ECONOMIC MELTDOWN.

    There I feel better now.

    Listen to what the UK has said. These tin pot south american organisations mean absolutely nothing to the UK. We dont care about them; we're not interested in them and we are not listening to them.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @21 So? The FIG has de facto control and they are extracting oil that is rightfully theirs.

    Talking about the UN intervening in the favour of Argentina is just silly-talk. The Argentines refuse to accept UN judgements from the ICJ/ICA and refuse to adhere to Security Council resolutions. The UK adheres to both.

    US has little or no need to get involved in this issue, so I don't see why you're mentioning them. The reality is most US interest groups and individuals back sanctions on Argentina over it's delinquency in US Courts. This relates to Argentinas unwillingness to pay up on its defaulted debts.

    So what you're really saying is nothing.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    | 23 |

    just { Real Politic } which i said...

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @24 Which leads us all back to the view that KFC doesn't even want to resolve this issue. It's far too powerful a tool for her to lose, because ultranationalism needs a cause, and without a cause... it has no raison d'etre.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    | 25 |

    Don't obsess with KFC ...

    { Real Politic} means here that ......

    FIG is not lawful and not recognized in the International Arena yet ...!

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @26 But the FI is a BOT, the FIG is lawful under UK law. And the UK is the lawful Administering Authority, so says the UN!

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    | 27 |

    then.. where are the foreign countries ambassadors of FI ?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @27 I don't think you're getting through to them.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    OT's usually have their foreign affairs dealt with by the state government that has sovereignty over the OT, though the foreign affairs are only delat with in accordance to the citizens of the OT's wishes. Same of military too. Its not just the falklands that have the foreign affairs managed by the sovereign state but many other OT, belonging to other countries are the same. The fact is they are self governing, they decide their own budget, their own laws, their own education and health matters, their own everything it is only foreign affairs and military that are dealt with on the island behalve by the the UK.

    Oh and you do not need to have a ambassadors in other countries or even a foreign affairs department to be an independent state, as its up to the government of that state if they which to converse with over countries or not. Eitherway, it doesnt make such an independant state any less independant. Though in the islands case, it doesn't make them any less self governing.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @28 Could you list where all the Cuban embassies are in Europe? How about where all North Korean embassies are around the world? How about those of Iran?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    26- if FIG is not recognosed Internationally them please explain to be why is it then that any Aircraft flying to the Islands has to communicate with and recognise the authority of FIG Dept of Civil Aviation to issue landing permits etc and list the various standard safety/insurance standards etc that airline has to meet?

    Also the same for all ships .
    Now we get aeroplanes here from Chile-Argentina(private ones)Uruguay and other countries at times, as well as UK.

    We get ships form all over the world at different times - they all fly the correct “courtesy flag” when in port as well.

    Seesm to me we are recognised?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Uruguay's national daily “El Observador” has this morning brought out a headline reading, “Uruguay helps Malvinas Islanders and breaks the Argentine Blockade. Uruguayan Government orders trade mission to be sent to the Islands by plane on 13th April, says The Sun”.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @33 Likelihood of that happening? Pretty slim. They're all too busy licking Argentina's shoes to do something morally upstanding.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    In the end the Summit will make polite noises about supporting Argentina's claim to the Falkland Islands, South George, South Sandwich Islands, Isle of Wight, Isle of Mann etc all to appease the botox queen who has most likely been on the phone ranting and raving to various SA heads of state.

    The answer is to remain cool, collective and gently chip away at this shaky alliance. The greatest cattalist for this to happen is the Argentine govenment itself who are very adept at pressing the self destuct button on a daily basis. NAZI COMEDIANS!

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @25 I always wonder why they laid no claim to tristan de cunha which is also in the South Atlantic. Their reasoning for claiming South Georgia and South Sandwich islands are non-existent and so it makes no sense for them to also not claim additional islands in their dreams of ruling the South Atlantic.

    It won't be too long before they do, I guess. They cannot help themselves.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    Who gives a f***?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2120965/Argentine-Embargo-threatens-starve-Falkland-Islanders-Cameron-act-now.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Ecuador annexed the Galápagos Islands on 12 February 1832, naming them the Archipelago of Ecuador. This new name added to several names that had been, and are still, used to refer to the archipelago. The first governor of Galápagos, General José de Villamil, brought a group of convicts to populate the island of Floreana, and in October 1832, some artisans and farmers joined them.

    Britain discovered these Islands in the 16th century, they belong to us, these ecuadorian gits stole them, colonised them and then implanted a population of convicts. Disgraceful behaviour lets take them back, they are british sovereign territory!!!
    Letter in the post to Cameron.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    what a load of rubbish, you argies want,
    the fact is this,
    will we be invited
    answer [no]
    then you can talk all you want, our goverment and mr clegg today told your stupid brain dead tinerman ?
    the falkands question is settled, [full stop]
    so go and have your childrens party.
    you aint getting your hands on something you do not own.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    As this is one of the most Argy friendly arenas after Mercosur, it will be interesting to see who will support Argentina, and how far. TinMan really needs a result here.

    @11 so_far @12 Marcos Alejandro
    So you think you can decide what the status is, or is not for other people, this is naked colonialism.

    The Islanders should pettion for the right to reply, as they are the ones most directly affected by Argentina’s escalating aggression.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    more and more MPs are demanding a harsher reaction from mr camaron.
    you argies are so lucky, we have a weak goverment,
    oh if the shoe was on the other foot.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @42 I think we have played the diplomatic game well so far. Acting the adult whilst the Argentine government acts like a spoilt child having a tantrum. I am guessing the long game is to watch CFKC destroy the economy and when the country implodes, the problem will go away.

    If the Falkland Islanders suffer real hardship, I have no doubt the UK government will step in, if requested.

    The real diplomacy is what happens behind the scenes, not the grandstanding Timmerman does. (Why do the Argentines not know this?)

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STRATEGICUS

    The more I read about the antics of Tinpotman the more I am reminded of the story of the little Italian boy who kept on crying 'theres a wolf coming'. When a real wolf turned up nobody believed him and so the wolf ate him.Does anybody out there have a pet wolf to feed you know who to ?

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @43 Because Argentinians are wholly poverty stricken. Internet access isn't widespread and so most of them get news from the TV or Newspaper, which we all know is under government control.

    They need these big headlines to make themselves look grandiose to the internal market. However, externally they look like completely gimpish amateurs. This matters not to them.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    43 ElaineB

    Acting responsible is what the British government is known and respected for. however, sometimes other nations act irresponsible and despite their actions get respect (ie. the support Argentina has had from SA nations). At that point it's time for a responsible reaction that will meet that irresponsible support point for point. For example, every time Argentina ups the anti, Britain also ups the anti. When Argentina claims the Falklands, on the same grounds Britain could claim Argentina. This would be a negotiating position. We drop our claims, if you drop yours.

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    “Internet access isn't widespread”

    http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats15.htm

    Argentina is at 70% penetration when Chile, Uruguay just barely got over 50% recently! Argentina did years ago! The rest are in the 30%....

    Fool! (again)

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Dear David ,

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/argentinas-open-letter-to-the-british-government/

    Mar 27th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @47 Wow, they have 70% penetration, some of the oldest planes and some of the newest 'Maximo' brand hotels.

    Good for them.

    Mar 28th, 2012 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The trouble with some deep penetrations,
    you can get some exstrodinary results

    Mar 28th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Hey, Argentina has gay marriage and all being a more tolerant society than Britain, but that doesn't mean we heteros have to hear British male fantasies with other males out!

    GreekYoghurt and briton, there are proper forums to discuss your desires.

    Mar 29th, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    51 - We have had civil partnerships for the biggest part of the last decade, we have a much more tolerant society than argentina - You only have to look at all the foreign cultures actively being practiced by in the UK, hence why we are one of the most if not the most multicultural societies in the world. If you had the same number of non ethnic argentines in argentina, then argentina would be killing them off by now, like they still are the native indian tribes that remain. So is argentina more tolerant that britian? Is it bollocks.

    Mar 29th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    51 Truth_Telling_Troll
    listen to [52]
    children should not play with fire including ther truth .

    Mar 29th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    52 - Teaboy - Having lived in both the UK and Argentina I'd say the former is probably more tolerant and definitely more multicultural, although there is still a long path to travel. However, to tell the truth, both countries could take a leaf out of Brazil's book. But even there I have encountered racism and bigotry, albeit to a lesser degree.

    Mar 29th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • anti-fascist2

    Please watch this short educational video on Argentina - it's hilarious...

    Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vys78sGB7Y

    Mar 31st, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    should be sent to all schoolchildren of the world, so they can all laugh at the silly argetoes .lol.

    Mar 31st, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please join -

    Keep the Falklands British -

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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