MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
For Uruguay “there is not blockade of Malvinas by any country of the continent”
Uruguay reiterated its full and traditional support for Argentina’s sovereignty claims over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, but at the same time underlined that “there is no blockade to the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands by any country of the continent”, and clearly differentiated the Cuban and Malvinas blockades. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules'There is no blockade”... hmmm... charter flights to the islands banned, ships need Argentine permit to go there, ships flying the Falklands flag banned, threat to ban LAN flight... they might be failing miserably to have any effect but KFC is definitely trying to establish an economic blockade to pressure the islanders. Despicable bullying of a small island community if you ask me...
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0this is all fine..
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0but since when is it a *right* that people from one country trade with another? Even if the *other* country has no interest in doing so?
it might violate international trade treaties if both parties are signatories but human RIGHTS?
I've always operated under the assumption that to trade, both parties (or countries in this instance) need to be willing but under no obligation to do so unless they participate in an international organization that sets common rules.
So lets review the full list of *human rights* abuses of the 2000 poor native islanders by evil Argentina:
- The sovereignty of the territory they occupy is and has been in dispute for centuries but this stresses the hell out of these hapless beings and its clearly an abuse of their human rights to insist on a matter that causes them so much anxiety in view of their preference to ignore the matter.
-As a result of the islanders choice to conveniently ignore how they got to the islands in the first place, where they are, and to which country they belonged when they got there Argentina decides not to recognize their made-up flag and turn away their trade vessels from Argentine ports. Shameless attack to their *human right* to trade with anyone THEY wish! Any country that is not buying their sheep or fish - at the price the islanders decide right - ought to be denounced immediately! Poor things...
Anyone want to add more to the list on how these peoples *human rights* are being repeatedly abused by Argentina?
Er argentina spent the 19th centuary expanding by killing the orginal inhabitants while the falklanders got on without killing anyone.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3. When it suits them, they are the “falklanders”. When it doesn't, they are british citizens.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0nevertheless in the 19th century they were british migrants - and we know very well how busy expanding were the british in the 19th century don't we? ask the “falklanders” they know.
Perhaps they had relatives killing natives in Africa, India, or in some East Indies colony somewhere.
Filmus :-)
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/argentina-will-get-the-falklands-in-time-says-filmus/
@4 4 Troneas
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0A little education regarding the British culture of local identity.
Yorkshireman - Tyke
Lincolnshire - Yellowbelly
Kent - 'Man o' Kent' or Kentishman
Londoner within sound of Bow Bells - Cockney
Northumberland - Geordie
Liverpudlian - Scouser
the list of local identites goes on and on, then there are the 'national' identities
Scot - Jock
Welsh - Taffy
Irish - Paddy
despite any argument to the contrary, all these expressions are generally viewed as affectionate, cultural and all part of the 'UNITED' Kingdom and each and everyone is Briitsh. Yes even now there are those who are considering a break from the UK, ie the Scots, but they are entitled to determine their own future even within the current Union. So Falklanders are also absolutely fully entitled to use either term within this context.
Furthermore there have been those posters on this forum who bang on about the old empire and colonialism. Remember that the old empire evolved into the Commonwealth. This being an association of EX- empire countries, but who wished to remain under the British sphere of influence (not control !!!) with an equal standing and respect to the benefit of all. It is very interesting that even in the 21st centuary there are countries (Mozambique & Rwanda) who wish to join this organisation even though they were NEVER part of the old 'British' empire, but under colonial control of others, as they feel the cultural, economic, equality and respect of the Commonwealth is superior to other self help/support organisations in the world. Must say something of the 'Anglo' influences in the world don;t you think?
To conclude, the Falkland Islanders being a BOT can chose whatever title they want call themselves either officially, culturally, or align themselves with any world organisation they chose that benefits their situation. All of this is supported by the UK Govt, and peoples. The one thing that is clear, is that they DON'T want to be part Argentina !!!
Nice to see that Uruguay is establishing a separate but jointly-timed announcement with the UK Foreign Secretary that allows Uruguay room to deal and trade separately with the UK.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's importance is in the message it passes to the Argentinian Government.
Baby-steps.
No blockade of the Falklands by any country of the continent? Unless he doesn't recognise Argentina as a country - and I am sure there are plenty of people who don't recognise the cesspit as being that - then Almagro must have emerged from the same demented school of incomprehension that produced Héctor Timerman
Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay !
Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you Mercosur member or Commonwealth member ?
Decide which one ?
@9 If they had any common sense they would quickly recognise which one would be their best option !!
Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@MistyThink
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are an intelligent nation that would like to a share of the vast oil wealth of the Falklands .. and they know they wont see that if they slavishly support their aggressive neighbours to the South.
Supporting the people of the Falklands makes economic sense. Supporting a financially desperate country like Argentina, with whom they are already involved in numerous lengthy disputes, makes no economic sense at all.
@9 MistyThink (#)
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:26 am
You sound a little bit threatening there misty.
But that's their way, Furry.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do as l say, or............
Argentina, the Threatmaster.
Let us consider the use of the word “blockade”. “A blockade is an effort to cut off food, supplies, war material or communications from a particular area by force, either in part or totally.” There are three types of blockade. Close, distant and loose. Very technical. Now, if you have warships prowling around the edge of the Falklands EEZ for the purpose of dissuading vessels flying the Falklands flag from sailing to and from a port on the coast of South America, that's a distant blockade. Argieland also uses economic sanctions. And is also engaged in an embargo. Usefully, a blockade is often considered an act of war.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 So when is it a “right” of a cuntry to ask other countries to engage in blockades, embargoes and sanctions on another country. Please note from the Universal Declaration on Human Rights:
”Article 25
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.“
So when argieland persuades all the other countries of SA to act against the Falklands and that has a detrimental effect on, for instance, the health and well-being of the Islanders, that is a breach of their human rights. And who, amongst others, voted for that Declaration? Argieland!
Argies always conveniently ”forget“ that Brits arrived on the Islands in 1690. 130 years before any argie. Argies also always conveniently ”forget” that the territory was formally claimed and sovereignty established in 1765. 55 years before any argie turned up. And that sovereignty was NEVER relinquished. Argies that turned up in 1820 were nothing but trespassers and squatters. NO rights and NO claim!
Uruguay !
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you Mercosur member or Commonwealth member
[comonwealth]
@14 Conqueror
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very well said !
Mr. Almagro “What's that thing infront of my face?”
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Senior Aide: “That? That's your nose sir!!”
Mr. Almagro “Really? How long has that been there?”
block·ade /blɒˈkeɪd/ noun, verb, -ad·ed, -ad·ing.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0noun
1. the isolating, closing off, or surrounding of a place, as a port, harbor, or city, by hostile ships or troops to prevent entrance or exit.
2. any obstruction of passage or progress: We had difficulty in getting through the blockade of bodyguards.
3. Pathology . interruption or inhibition of a normal physiological signal, as a nerve impulse or a heart muscle–contraction impulse.
verb (used with object)
4. to subject to a blockade
Blockade might be the incorrect term. Perhaps the correct term is 'an organised effort to prevent the free travel of persons belonging to the territory and a restriction of trade with these persons'.
More of a 'complete failure to engage with' rather than a 'blockade' per se.
Off topic I know,but has made me feel better. I am considerably richer than the average Argie :-)))))
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are you on the global pay scale?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356
I'm guessing we all learn less than Maximo and KFCs undisclosed and hidden incomes.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Mar 30th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can live with that,by the way is the missing money stuffed up Maximos jumper?
Troneas...
Mar 30th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The vast majority of Falkland Islanders will call themselves Falkland Islanders before they say they are British. We are proud to be born in the Falklands, we have no issues of how we got here. In fact, I was born in Stanley, according to your logic, you have more rights to my home, even though you have never been here....
No I think blockade would be technically right as they prevent entrance. Economic sanctions would probably be my way of looking at it.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
“-As a result of the islanders choice to conveniently ignore how they got to the islands in the first place, where they are, and to which country they belonged when they got there Argentina decides not to recognize their made-up flag and turn away their trade vessels from Argentine ports. Shameless attack to their *human right* to trade with anyone THEY wish! Any country that is not buying their sheep or fish - at the price the islanders decide right - ought to be denounced immediately! Poor things...”
Actually old fellow we are more interested in buying from the continent than selling to it but if we have to go further afield for our goods then so be it, I think that a shipping link with South Africa is not too far away. You would have thought that Argentina with it's current financial would be encoraging trade from any scource. If Argentina would stop trying to claim us we could have a mutually benificial relationship, as our closest neighbour we would probably deal almost exclusively with you if we had a good relationship. We may not be a big fish when it gomes to buying power but as they say “look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves”.
As for the first line in your paragraph, without virtually eradicating the native population (unless you count warrah's).
Ah M_of_FI
Mar 30th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are wasting your time applying logic to the highly illogical and dishonest Argentine posters.
I love how time in Argentina only started in 1833, everything before that doesn't count apparently.
24 Xect
Mar 30th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly.
22 M_of_FI
Intelligent debate is wasted on these people, they are fanatical nationalists and need to be treated as such.
@24 Arg, I just struggle to even hold a conversation with Argentinians, they're incapable of any kind of mature conversation involving an exchange of views.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take this Le Camping guy 'Troneas', he's all angry about the fact his history books are wrong, and he feels he's missing out on an nice life somewhere safe where they don't lock the doors, when in argentina he has to wear a stab-vest and kevlar plates sewn into his clothing.
The fact is, Argentina likes to think it's the best place to live in Latin America and the Falklands is a constant reminder of how terrible a place Argentina is. Argentina is just full of crime, mafia, corruption and lies. If I lived there I'm sure I'd be upset like Troneas.
Well, there are worse places to live but certainly express kidnappings, robberies and muggings are increasing. Mostly my friends were concerned about inflation.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The biggest criminals are the police.
Actualy Argentina is a great place to live when not living a big city. BUT trying to live on a fixed income with 30% inflation is hard going.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many Argentines don't constantly think about the Falklands other than wishing we had a similar standard of living as do the Islanders.
It would be great if our horrendous government would just concentrate on our real problems; security, education, inflation, healthcare, etc. instad of putting up the “Malvinas” smokescreen.
We keep hoping.
@3
Mar 30th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina spent the 20th killing no one in war (except an unfortunate skirmish late in that century), the UK killed how many millions around the globe in the meantime in WWI and WWII? Just Dresden alone does the casualty count of Argentina about 30 times.
@29 Truth_Telling_Troll
Mar 30th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, Argentina are too cowardly to declare war. They just engage in unilateral military actions and eradicate entire indigenous populations. Trust me, Argentina has nothing to be proud of ... and nor do you, if your twisted version of history is anything to go by.
Uruguay picks up the business Argentina let go!
Mar 30th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they don’t find oil/gas in their own waters, they will be buying it from the Falklands and saving on transport.
“Argentines and later the Cubans quietly but strongly expressed their disappointment”
No shit - lol
@29 You forgot about the Argentinian 'Dirty War' where you killed a lot of nuns and murder-raped lots of kids.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny that you'd forget that.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/96831/us-eu-blast-argentinas-trade-restrictions-at-wto
Mar 30th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The worm is now well and truly turning for the RG's. By the time the UK has finished the RG's will seriously wish they had kept quiet. We can clearly see what happens here; series of phone calls from RG officials to everyone and anyone, shouting and blackmailing them down the phone.
The WTO knows exactly what will happen if the import restrictions are lifted - bankruptcy for the RG's!
Far from having world opinion on their side they have insulted and offended everyone and anyone they can.
http://www.infobae.com/notas/639808-El-PRO-pretende-dejar-de-contratar-a-empresas-que-explotan-recursos-en-las-islas.html
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the PRO is also against having any dealings with companies involved in and with Malvinas.
I guess the PRO's actions will also be construed as a blockade
And just a week ago, Argentine posters were posting things like;
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE UK IS FINISHED AND THE WORLD SUPPORTS ARGENTINA
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAAJAJ
etc etc
LOL, the Cestrian trully believes the USA, Mercosur, the continental EU nations, China, Mexico, Israel, Turkey, Australia, the rest of Latin America turning on Argentina is the work of the international power of the UK.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor boy, he should have been born in 1799 I guess.
29 Truth_Telling_Troll
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you arn't mentioning the 6 million jews who were put to death in the concerntration camps between 1939 and 1945 or the people of Coventry, London, Birmingham who lost their lives in the blitz. You Fool!!! how could you forget them? or the innocent civilains who perished in Hiroshima or the thousands who were “disappeared” by Stalin? You Fool!!! do they not count either? what about the thousands who died of poisoning during / after the Vietnam war due to Agent Orange? Do you not remember them as well?? You Fool!! How could you forget?
Truth telling troll? more like “The truth's I want to remember, I'll just forget the rest” You Fool!!!
I forgot because it seems we are allowed to forget “context”. Martin Woodhead stated the Falklanders killed no one in the 19th century while Argentina did.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well didn't he conveniently not point out that ehmmm, there were no inhabitants in the falklands! So of course there was no conflict for them.
That said, they did bring the Falkland Island Wolf, a unique species in the entire planet, to extintion. You tell me what is more dishonorable... engaging in warfare or the killing other humans (which as bad as that is, at least other humans have the same capacity of thought, self-defense, and counterattack as oneself), or a completely innocent species that did nothing wrong to the Islanders, and could never have taken arms or defended themselves and their entire species??
@38 If there was no one there then how could they have killed the Island Wolf? Did ghosts do it?
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please make sense. Thanks.
@36
Mar 30th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FURG.
Starting to squirm now as you run out of friends?
the WTO is after you and if you dont stop the import restrictions they will fuck you over. As soon as you do however you are still fucked.
You lose either way - chortle, chortle.
If the government runs out of money then the saving grace is that they wont have the money to pay La Campora and we'll see the back of wankers like you.
you can defect to the side of the righteous any time you like. renounce corruption, renounce La campora and rejoin the rest of the world. Its not too late.
We don't wanna. How about that. Isolationism for eva!
Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39
I made sense. You know what the alternative is. dah dah dah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_Wolf
“The first known Canid to go extinct in HISTORICAL times”
Unless F.I history starts in 1876. Which obviously means they would belong to Argentina. LOL!
@41TTT,
Mar 30th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've lost it now, mate.
Sad.
The Uruguayans knew that this WTO announcement was coming and along with the likes of chile and Paraguay have probably gone to the WTO to ask for advice. No way will they sit by whilst Argentina ruins their economy.
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercosur is a joke for as long as the RG's are in it.
Uruguay! Please, make your mind up? Who'se side are you on?
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 029 Truth_Telling_Troll
Mar 30th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You spend the first half of the 20th C whipping out 50% of your countries population - the Negros.
The second half was spent raping, torturing and murdering political dissidents who didn't agree with a fascist military junta.
Previous to that - in the 19C and before you were busy killing each other but most of all raping the Indians, stealing their land and killing them.
Sounds to me Troll your on some kind of different planet!
Ever heard of genocide? It's what the Nazi's did to Jews, Gypsies, Political Disidents, Slaves, Poles, Russian Prisoners.
Ever been to Stalingrad / Volgograd? You know how many people died there? 1.5 MILLION. THAT CITY IS IN RUSSIA! What were the German's doing there? Why were they in Poland? France? Greece? Holland? Denmark? Norway? Finland? Ukraine? Belarus? Latvia? Lithuania? Estonia? Georgia? North Africa?
Ever read a book about Jap Pow camps?
Yeah keep spouting your Nazi crap you piece of shit. I would pull your fucking head right off and kick it down your fucking ass.
41 Troll
Mar 31st, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands were settled before your country even existed.
How long was that German, you keep talking about being Argentine, on our islands before he got kicked out by the US Navy for... piracy? A few fucking months! And you expect that claim to be taken seriously?
A claim officially dropped in 1850 and only resurrected in 1941 under a fascist military junta made up of amongst others General Juan Peron - your great hero, the man who brought Peronism back from Mussolini's Italy
You people are on some kind of drug, if you expect us to take you seriously! People in Britain laugh their head off at your “Malvinas” shit.
Troll I was in Buenos Aires for 3 years - I'm going to claim you crap hole of a cuntry for Britain! How do you like that?
You know what they use for a dart board at the local pubs around here? A dart board incorporating the Argentine flag and a picture of your President Cristina Kitchener complete with the melting face. I designed it myself and they are selling like hot cakes. Want one?
Please watch this short educational video on Argentina -
Mar 31st, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vys78sGB7Y
I'm convinced that the majority of Uruguayans, like myself, are on the side of democracy and freedom. We know that if Argentina were to take over the Falklands, we may be next. Mercosur will no longer exist in its present form in a few years time. Even President Mujica, who has been incredibly easygoing with CFK, is getting increasingly fed up. Unfortunately we can't kick Argentina out of the region, and they will be out much bigger neighbours forever.
Mar 31st, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0^^ that is one false Uruguayan right there!
Mar 31st, 2012 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina take over Uruguay? Don't make me laugh
The extent to which Falklanders will go to to get their fears across is just mind-boggling.
Dear Helber
Mar 31st, 2012 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0For your information, I was born in Uruguay, my first language is Spanish, and my main place of residence is Punta del Este. You laugh at the idea of Argentina trying to take over Uruguay? Well read up on your history, you've tried several times ... and here's some Spanish that Google won't translate: andá hacerte dar, pedazo de pajero (go and get f*cked, wanker).
@50 poor attempt mate...
Mar 31st, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0it's not andá hacerted dar
It's andá ha hacerte dar
Claiming Uruguay is at risk of being overtaken by Argentina! FFS this is not the 1800s...
I think it is YOU who should read history but please, PLEASE AVOID EXTRAPOLATIONS from the XIX century into XXI
And, no! I don't believe for one minute you are Uruguayan. There is not one Uruguayan alive that would make such a far-stretched claim as you and that, my false Uruguay, blows your cover. Sure, there are commercial problems between Argentina and Uruguay but to go as far as saying that Uruguay's existence might be at risk from Argentina is nonsensical...
But, hey mate. if it's posting rubbish such as that which rocks your boat, please proceed. Just don't expect serious people to pay much heed to it.
@51 Ah, Helber got all angry because a Uruguayan that his Le Camping like to bully has told him that they're a risk to Latin American peace and then to get stuffed.
Mar 31st, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Helber with his Le Camping overt expansionist policies that even South Americans know about.
Helber + 0 = Nazi.
51 Hellboor
Mar 31st, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least we know your Argentine, you can sense the goose steps coming through your keyboard. You can tell ynsere isn't Uruguayan because he is 100% behind Argentina! I have 67 friends on my fb page from Uruguayan, I know none of them personally, they found me through my posts on Argentina.
Reality check for Hellboor. Your country is surrounded by nations increasingly alienated by your fanatical government and hate mongering people.
Jo
@50 ynsere,
Mar 31st, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Pajero means Wanker?
ln Australia they sell the Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4 & l was told that Pajero is supposed to mean “Passenger” but in fact means Wanker.
They wouldn't sell many in South America, would they?
Please watch this short educational video on Argentina -
Mar 31st, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vys78sGB7Y
(50) ynsere & (51) Helber Galarga
Mar 31st, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excuse my intromission, my respected South-American brothers, but I notice some incorrect Spanish grammar and spelling from the both of you ….
It is not correct to write: ”andá hacerte dar”
Neither is it correct: ”andá ha hacerte dar”
To reach the intended connotation, the correct form, in this case would be: ”Andá a hacerte dar”
PS:
Isolde, as smutty as always………..
The Mitsubishi Pajero was named after the Leopardus pajeros (Pampas cat) which is native to the Patagonian plateau region of southern Argentina.
However, since pajero is an offensive term for “wanker” in Spanish, alternative names have been used for many markets overseas.
It is known as the Mitsubishi Montero in Spain, India, and the Americas and as the Mitsubishi Shogun in the UK.
@Troneas
Mar 31st, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it - you are the villains this time. You are trying to force the islanders to surrender by stopping them getting access South America and sources of fresh food. Your hate mongering govt will not leave us or the FI alone. If you just F*** off you would never hear from us again, we are'nt interested in picking a fight with you. This situation is ALL your doing.
I hope our govt puts so much pressure back on you through economic means that your country implodes.
Dear Helber : “Andá ha hacerte dar”, you say? “Ha” is the verb “haber”, you silly bugger! You know sod all about Spanish grammar, wanker! However, despite your poor schooling, I'm still Uruguayan. Why can't Argentines get it into their heads that most Uruguayans don't like them as a nation, for very good historical and present-day reasons? (Individual friends are, of course, a different story).
Mar 31st, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Andá a hacerte dar, pedazo de pajero.”
Mar 31st, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you all - especially Mr. Think - for this most erudite and useful contribution to the debate on the Falklands blockade by Argentina.
British only nation to engage in biological warfare against Indians:
Mar 31st, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.umass.edu/legal/derrico/amherst/lord_jeff.html
“Captain Simeon Ecuyer had bought time by sending smallpox-infected blankets and handkerchiefs to the Indians surrounding the fort -- an early example of biological warfare -- which started an epidemic among them. Amherst himself had encouraged this tactic in a letter to Ecuyer. ”
(59) GeoffWard2
Mar 31st, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last week you made a quite balanced and intelligent comment about Brazilian politics....
Today you made a witty and elegant comment about some silly South-American comments...
Are you trying to score some positive points with your Brazilian missus so she'll let's you out of the doghouse?
Come on lads, its not their fault, is it, they were indoctrinated since birth, being taught that the world began just before 1833, allow me,
Mar 31st, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The evil world was coming to an end, the daft vaders were being really nasty, so the man upstairs decided to drown everyone, [but that would eliminate he’s favourites]
So he orders NOAH to build a ship , carrying only the best, in they went two by two,
And then the last two hyenas to board were of course the favourite Argentineans called CFK and son,//
And then the world drowned, heading towards the light and golden harps, the ship landed on what he called the bad land of Argentina, of they loaded, all to be the future offspring of the evil CFK
And her immortal, bloggers,
And so they lived as they were meant to, as the children of the immortal queen of CFK , and destined to rule the world, abet NOAH’s last warning,
Beware of the white doves, for they will bring love harmony and happiness to the world,
But the pure white doves decided to fly off to a land of golden honey, called the future British Falklands,
Well it is only a bloody story, have a sense of humour please .
.
Dear Think #61
Mar 31st, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Deep obeisance ..... “Unworthy, unworthy”
(Your 'Starter for 10':
“We're not worthy! We're not worthy!”
“We're scum!”
“We suck!”)
Argies are quite hate-filled and delusional, I've noticed.
Mar 31st, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's some kind of psychopathy that's was probably added to their genetics in the last century.
@56
Mar 31st, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are right! It's andá a hacerte dar.
my typo....
It still leaves ynsere out in the cold with his andá hacerte dar
@65 I don't speak spanish, because i'm not poor.
Mar 31st, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@66
Mar 31st, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that's not Spanish you fool!
It's Castillean in its River Plate style.
Dear Helber - In vernacular Uruguayan Spanish nobody would include the “a” in that sentence - specially when telling a wanker to get f*cked!
Mar 31st, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And why do you say I'm out in the cold? We've had a lovely warm afternoon, and I've had a delightful sail here in Punta del Este. And I'm still Uruguayan, and Uruguayans still don't like Argentina as a nation.
Dear Greek Yoghurt - I speak Spanish, but I'm not particularly poor. Nor are most of the Spanish speakers I know. You're under a misapprehension.
@68
Mar 31st, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bueno, lamento que detestes a la Argentina como nación. Creo que no hay dos naciones, que por proximidad geográfica, historia, idioma y lunfardo se parezcan más que Argentina y Uruguay.
un abrazo
@68
Mar 31st, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahaha, and you think sucking up to the Europeans and Brits will make them not racist? Do you honestly think the spanish / anglo-xaxon/ northern european /germanic references you read here from all kinds of Brits when speaking to Argentines is exclusively intended to us? they think that of all of you too. They just pretend to treat you with respect.
Kinda like the Brazilians, who latin americans call so humble yet read what they really think in their forums and even the thought of thinking of countries like Ecuador or Uruguay playing Brazil as equals in football is abhorrent to them, that those 'timecos de merda' could beat them.
That's the difference betweeen argies and the others. We tell you what we think in your face, the others stab you in the back. Obviously you prefer the latter.
Dear Helber - Yes, I agree. To distinguish an Argentine from a Uruguayan, at least those from the region of the River Plate, you have to actually be one or the other. But politically we are so different, and so are our national imaginaries and identities.
Apr 01st, 2012 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have said before on these forums that Argentines are individually charming. The problem is they tend to gang up on any outsider if there are more than three. Particularly if that outsider is perceived as weak or outnumbered.
I'm pretty sure that if you and I met accidentally at an airport somewhere, and had to pass a couple of hours, we'd enjoy each other's company.
I refrain from insulting you any further as you have not descended to vulgarity. A pity really, because I was enjoying it, and I don't have all that many opportunities to insult people in English.
I hope you enjoy your day.
(69) Helber Galarga) & (71) ynsere
Apr 01st, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0That’s the way to go, botijas……:-)))
If you were here, I would buy you a couple of Caipirinhas at the Posada Buscavida’s beach bar…..
......... and I in the Gavea, my beach barraca.
Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Saúde!
Meu Brasil ……
Apr 01st, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JULv_VlPwQ4
Saudade…….
@67 Helber Galarga
Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what is “Castillean in its River Plate style” then, some form of Portuguese prehaps.
@ 70 Truth_Telling_Troll
Most of the references to Anglo-Saxon/ Northern European /Gringos, you read here are from shall we say, Non anglos, and intended to be derogatory.
So yes I take great delight in throwing those phrases in whenever I can, also Anglo-Saxon economics is a good one.
As I am all of the above, what would you have me do when those terms used derogatorily, hide!
English only please,
Apr 01st, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we will except british lol.
@ 70
fact,
we all decent from the same place, do we not,
probably from the same group of trees,
but not the same tree,, ours was better lolol.
@67 the castillean language in the River plate was heavily influenced by Andaluz settlers that came up to late 1700's
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@76 briton,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0our tree was higher,
we dropped all our rubbish on those in the lower trees. lol
Dear Helber
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A professor of linguistics from a major Spanish university told a group of us at a dinner party last night that Spanish or Castellano is technically a Portuguese dialect. Another dinner guest, a former Argentine congressman, refused to say anything at all about the Falklands/Malvinas on the grounds that he did not want to further vent CFK's “stupidity”.
‘@76
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we had more branches, to their bare veined ones,
We had good shelter under think woolly leaves,
They just had the old brown shrivel kind,
That’s why they fell out of their tree and landed on their heads, hundreds of years before us,
We waited until the ladder was built,
Tigger tigger
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@77 Helber Galarga
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fleeing the British capture of Gibraltar no doubt.
Please join -
Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the Falklands British -
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
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