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India and Brazil agree to push for UN Security Council reform

Sunday, April 1st 2012 - 08:16 UTC
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India and Brazil on Friday decided to step up efforts to push the UN reforms, particularly the Security Council and signed half a dozen agreements in areas ranging from science and biotechnology to cultural exchanges. Read full article

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  • MurkyThink

    UK & France should be kicked off ,India & Brasil should be new members of UN security council.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    @1 any reason for that statement or is it just a bigoted rant

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    UK and France will simply use their veto unless Brazil and India have something a bit more interesting to offer.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @3 All we need is a security council full of vetoing people, that'll really help the world. It's bad enough as it is.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    Becouse there are unbalancing in UN security Council in favour of USA
    for the reason why ...the UK is the tool of Pentagon....the France is the tool of CIA...

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @5 unbalanced towards the USA? Do you know who currently sits on the Security Council? You think Russia and China are at the beck and call of the USA?

    You're an ignoramus.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    Brazil, India etc. should sort out the squalid living conditions and degradation of their poverty stricken masses before voicing any ambition to be members of The UN Security Council. Maybe after they've sorted the mess in their own houses; they can come back and talk about their aspirations.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    But will they send their troops to fight abroad in Libya, Korea etc on the rare occasions that the UN get off their backsides and authorise force to be taken against a common enemy?

    Would they have sent their troops to rid the Falklands of Argentinian forces in 1982?

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    Murky ..you watch to many X files...

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1 Oh good! Give seats to countries with extreme levels of domestic poverty, ridiculously low levels of credibility and amazing levels of corruption. That would be a good idea, right? With the general level of intelligence displayed by Brazil and India, we'd be up to World War V before 2050.

    One thing that the current permanent members of the Security Council have in common is that they have put the existence of their nations on the line, to one extent or another, to defeat evil. Could Brazil or India make the same claim? Nations with a better claim; Australia, Canada, New Zealand.

    Brazil and India. An amazing joke!

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    number 10, the joke here is reading comments from you, a virtual gamer who lives in his mom's basement.

    “Could Brazil or India make the same claim? Nations with a better claim; Australia, Canada, New Zealand.”

    Yes, and if you do your homework, something you are incapable of doing, UK and France OPENLY support Brazil and China to become permanent member of the security council of the UN (meaning with veto power).

    UK, France, Russia (aren't superpowers and are financially broke)...US and China are superpowers, though one is financially broke and both challenge each other. They all work together but if they smell opportunities to finish each other, they'll do it.

    In my opinion, Brazil (net creditor), Japan (debtor), India (net creditor) and Germany (creditor though on the brink of becoming a huge debtor) should not join the UN which is a waste of money and is losing it's credibility.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Domingo

    Brazil & India are right to promote reform and Great Britain & France are right to support them.

    All political institutions must regularly seek and conduct reform. It is healthy. Change for the better keeps them relevant.

    The UN is one way humanity unites. Perhaps it is the embryo of world government, with a single people. No us. No them. Rather unity.

    If the UN is flawed, then the fault for its flaws lies with its constituent members.

    The UN tries to work on principle. The UN Charter is a practical international treaty which upholds commonly shared high and just principles, namely:

    “The Purposes of the United Nations are:

    1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;

    2.To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

    3.To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and

    4.To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends.”

    Resolutions are debated, voted on and sometimes acted on. It may be an imperfect instrument, but it is the best institution we have to work together for our common good.

    Security Council membership is in itself a weighty responsibility. If you vote for a resolution, you are expected to help enforce it.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Yeah. Like this will happen.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The future UN will probable break up
    If France and the UK was forced out,, followed by the USA ,
    The UN would be reduced to
    RUSSIA-CHINA-INDIA-BRAZIL-
    And the replacements of [3] would probably be.
    South Africa – European Union- and Saudi Arabia,
    Seconded by
    Argentina, Iran, Pakistan, and Turkey
    And the world would go to rack and ruin..

    Or course I could well be wrong,
    But , well worse has happened,

    As for the other [3] they would probably form some kind of federation based loosely on the British Commonwealth,

    And would probably take at least 60 countries with them .
    Just a thought

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    It is good to see two of Britain's closest allies getting on so well.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    11 Fido Dido

    India a net creditor? Are you mad?

    What about the 60Billion deficit they have AND the latest wheeze of backdating tax up to 50 years for commercial contracts?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fred

    You comment is unbelievable. I haven't seen for many time such prejudice and ignorance. If you've been to school you are able to realize that Brazil and India are not that bad.

    Corruption never caused war to Brazil neither India and poverty has decreased substantially in both countries with or without UN's Security Council reform claim.

    Not to mention that the last war engaged by Brazil was WWII at the same side of Australia, Canada, U.S., U.K., France, etc.

    Brazil would never promote a war, maybe India against Pakistan but that's all. Anyone who knows a little about Brazil knows that military area is totally neglected.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @17 An indian friend says the police won't do anything unless you pay them extra money to do it. It's more money for murders, kidnapping, etc. You can also pay the guy who owns the prison to let you out.

    Glorious.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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