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Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Monday the main ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of the beginning of the Malvinas war or South Atlantic conflict, when Argentine troops invaded the Falklands and held them for 74 days until ousted by a British Task Force. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesShe doesn´t deserve to adress to those who served in that war, much less to even talk about those who gave their lives.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0She´s doing nothing good about it. All she does is to use the topic for her own pathetic purposes.
Mrs. Kirchner, stop using this.
Mrs. Kirchner, stop using this
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you said so.
cameron: Stop using Malvinas...
The Falklands could become Argentine if Argentina treated the Islanders well. It is for the Islanders to decide.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would you chose British rule of law, freedom and safety or 20% inflation and corruption? Argentina killed 3 Islanders when they invaded in 1982. Instead of building bridges they cut off trade and transport to the Islands!
Timmerman: I have a plan sir
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0KFC: Really timmerman? A cunning and subtle one?
Timmerman: Yes sir
KFC: As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Profosser of Cunning at Oxford University?
Timmerman: Yes sir
KFC: Well I'm afraid its to late. Whatever it was, I'm sure it was better then my plan to get out of here by pretenting to be mad. I mean who would of noticed another madman around here. Good luck everyone, I'm going to make up some more crazy lies to tell the people of Great Argentina, my people who i can do with what i want.
I can say ... this is about as morally palatable as Germany celebrating the liberation of Poland in 1939. However, it is a good measure to shows you what sort of animals we're dealing with here.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 They'd never become Argentine, the value systems are too disparate. Argentinians like nazism, lies, corruption and cheating. Falklanders like freedom, democracy and justice. It's as different as English values versus Iberian-italian values.
A celebration of Argentinian duplicity and cowardice.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Don't you feel tired after talking too much bullshit? I'm really amazed. Every day I read this propaganda site, I find you here talking a lot of nonsense!
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Feeling grumpy Jorge? well cant blame you ,30 years is a long time seeing how well the Falklands is doing without Argie fiscal help
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this Jorge the Jihad Jorge of old? While we celebrate our actions in the preservation of freedom, CFK uses the death of many young men to finger point at the UK. Disgusting and vile person that she is. Her son gets fat while other people don't have enough to eat.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/97083/the-sovereignty-dispute-from-a-british-point-of-view
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 07 JORGE1982
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course!! we all know that basic human rights are all B*llsh*t!! how could they be anything else, it was silly of us to point out the human rights abuses of Argentina. of course there is nothing to worry about there, it is a fine outstanding state, something that every country aspires too...........
it was a doomed futile mission that made afgshistan and iraq lokked like a good idea.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0commerating the dead yes but debates ffs
Jorge, like all Argentinians, is categorically against self-determination. Makes me wonder why the UN let them in.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 GreekYoghurt
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well I am sure they will eventually default on the membership dues and get suspended from the UN. It is about the only thing left that they aren't in default with .. and rather that than Christina go without her fortnightly collagen injections :)
@4cornishair.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does CFKs plan involve putting underpants on her head and putting a pencil up each nose, then shouting “wooble” constantly. LOL
@15 shb
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean she isn't already doing that? .. which leaves the question what the hell that thing on he head is. An NHS wig?
What exactly are they commemorating?
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it was the deaths of their conscripts in an unnecessary war started by a military dictatorship - a day of remembrance - I would sympathise. But that would typically take place at the anniversary of the end of the war.
This seems to be a commemoration of what they view as a great military victory - something very different indeed. As #5 says, its a bit like Germany celebrating the invasion of Poland. Or Spain celebrating the start of the civil war - something which happened under the Franco dictatorship but came to an end when democracy was restored.
@17 They're celebrating the imposition of an evil expansionist empire's rule on some quiet clean-living individuals.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, it makes no sense. Yes, it's as palatable, as Iraq celebrating their invasion of Kuwait.
That's Argentina for you.
Very provocative to celebrate on the date the war started. Surely if she and all her countrymen are so ashamed of the war, wouldn't they celebrate officially on the last day of the war ?!
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.seayourhistory.org.uk/content/view/877/1115/
I did ask this question just last week in Buenos Aires. I asked why they are holding celebrations rather than commemorating the dead. The answer was that it should be a celebration. I pressed further, “Why would you want to celebrate a war you lost”? *long pause* “No, it should be a celebration”.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another interesting bit of misinformation that seems to be doing the rounds is that the English tricked Argentina out of the Falkland Islands. “Because we were a new country and you have a lot of history, so you tricked us”. And, apparently, we stole all the documentation showing that Argentina owns The Falklands.
(Obviously, not all Argentines believe this nonsense).
@2 Cameron isn't using the Malvinas. They don't exist.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Whassamatta, GORGE. Rising up in your own throat, are you? FALKLAND ISLANDS ARE BRITISH! Argieland is an imperialist colonialist cesspit. CFK is “THE” BLACK WIDOW (spider). Timidman is a load of sh*te. As is Putrid Jelly and Debbie the GORGE. Argieland? I've sh*te better. And flushed it away!
Hey, argies. How's your personal wealth? ”La (highly-esteemed) Presidenta Botox” has made US$15.7 million out of you in 7 years. Doesn't that make you feel GOOD?
@20 Such tricksters we are. With our tricks and our documentation stealing.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 Quite. And when pressed for actual evidence or a reliable source there is, of course, no foundation other than the usual anti-English rumours.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0One person told me to 'go and look in your museum in London' (which one?) and you will find all the documents. Hmmmm. Maybe he was thinking of the Ripleys Believe it or Not establishment.
Australia still celebrates Anzac day 97 years on...... that was when they sailed half way around the world and put the boot into the Turks who had done them no harm....
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having received a damn good thrashing from Johnnie Turk they sailed away again..
The big difference is that Australia isn't jumping up and down calling for a rematch.....
24 Frank which is why we don't have “Charge of the light brigade” day or “the Fall of singaporre day” Could you imagine if we did? that would be a jolly day of celebration.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anzac Day is a national day of remembrance though. It isn't a a day for celebration and jingoistic warmongering.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only in Argentina, would a supposed democratic government, actually commemorate hostilities started by a dictatorship, in a war it lost badly, no-one else on the planet would be so stupid.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They should be commemorating the ending of hostilities, but stupid is as stupid does.
I think even though we won the Falklands War, its still a sombre time for us, because we lost 258 Serviceman, and had to kill 649 Argentines over one countries governments desperation to cling onto power. We should remember both sides, and shame on any that bad mouth the dead on any side.......
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed the statement made by DC today remembers the fallen on both sides with due respect.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 At least Australia acted honourably. Something the argie scum could never be accused of.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 21
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30:
Conqueror: Stop being an idiot and cut the uncalled rudeness, please. Frank@24 is right, and BTW, who are you to judge if Argentine troops acted “honourable or not”? are you deciding based on whose their Head of State only? You guys have a lot of dirty clothes under your bed, the difference, as Frank remarked, is that you don´t make a national holiday about it.
Moore and many others who actually fought had a different opinion but, hey, you surely know better than them ...
Cameron (and Hammond, and defense Lobby) is, with no question, using this issue for their own purposes, like never before. Period. He´s a good student of Kirchner´s means.
As for Kirchner´s fortune and how I feel: I feel terrible, because it´s widely known how they made it, but nobody takes action. How would you feel, buddy?
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hoy recordemos a los caídos de ambos lados.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why the fuck are these war mongering monkeys commemorating a fucking invasion that in the end became an embarrassing defeat. Jesus Christ these idiots must be the laughing stock of the world no one but no one celebrates the start of a defeat. and these clowns want to be part of a modern society Jesus wept if my country had been so embarrassingly defeated coming out from beneath a rock would be the last thing on my mind I would hide myself or even cut my wrists or my throat so I could die of shame. Now that’s an idea Christina isn't it you could always do something like that couldn't you.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its one thing to remember the dead on both sides with the utmost respect but for that cow to try to make political gain through her country's war dead is despicable. The actions of a deranged and deluded woman along with a deluded country.
Las islas Malvinas no son Argentinas, ni tampoco del Reino Unido, son de los kelpers, los kelpers, es decir ustedes, son los dueños de esas islas, nadie es capaz de vivir allí, solo ustedes, no creo que ningún argentino, ni tampoco un inglés tenga interés de vivir en las islas Malvinas, mi consejo es que se autodeterminen y aún siendo yo argentino, yo creo que es una estupidez enorme el bloqueo que el gobierno argentino está haciendo en este presente, espero que en un futuro existan unos políticos más visionarios, que sean capaces de respetar la autodeterminación de los ciudadanos kelpers y hasta que estén dispuestos a comerciar en forma equitativa para el mutuo beneficio y la paz, mi consejo, no se dejen dominar por el Reino Unido, decidan por ustedes mismos. Sinceramente me gustaría que las Malvinas fueran de soberanía Argentina, pero está claramente visto que Argentina jamás se ha preocupado por ese territorio, y jamás hubo un argentino con el coraje suficiente para vivir allí, por lo tanto los dueños son los que son capaces de vivir y amar esa tierra, mis respetos y mi pena por los caídos de ambos países, sus familiares aún hoy sienten la ausencia de sus hijos.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands are not Argentine, nor the United Kingdom are of the kelpers, the kelpers are the owners of these islands, no one can live there, only you do not believe that no Argentine, nor an Englishman with an interest in live in the Falklands, my advice is self-determining and even when I Argentines, I think it's a huge stupidity blocking the Argentine government is doing at present, I hope that in future there are some visionary politicians who are able to respect self-determination of citizens kelpers and until they are willing to trade fairly for the mutual benefit and peace, my advice, do not let themselves be dominated by the United Kingdom, decide for yourself. Honestly I would like the Falklands sovereignty were Argentina, but is clearly seen that Argentina has never worried about that territ
@34 They are not dominated by the UK. They run their own country. They only rely on the UK for defence because Argentina have invaded in the past; that's all.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reports of Mrs K's speech are beginning to come through. Looks like she was plugging the line that Argentina has been the vistim of many wars, conveniently ignoring the fact that they have started most of them, as in 1982.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I watched it. She was playing the victim-widow-woman. She said that Argentina has been the victim of many wars *coughs* and that it was not the Argentine people that went to war with the Falklands, they were all prisoners of the military. Ummmm. She also claimed all of SoAm supports her and that the main reason the Falklands belong to Argentina is *drum roll* geography.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mad old bat.
Even the news reporters who are their are reporting, that CFK is losing her grip,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And only using the Falklands as a distraction to her own countries demise,
Locals have been complaining of being forced and bribed to come out in front of the cameras,
CFK is without doubt a disgrace,
And the fact is, she is rapidly losing support of her friends.
Other south American countries have told the British, they will go no further down that road of falling out with the British,
The time is coming; CFK is on her way out,
Good luck.
Seemed very muddled: “Para nosotros lo más importante es la dignidad humana. No nos interesa cómo piensan. Nos interesa que se cumpla nuestra Constitución.”
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“For us the most important thing is human dignity/rights. We dont care what they think. What matters to us is complying with our constitution.”
So her interest in human rights does not extend to the islanders (“we don't care what they think”), but what matters most is the risible claim to the falklands that was inserted in the argentinian constitution AFTER their defeat in the 1982 war.
This article currently has an advert for the 'Pirate Storm' game right under the picture of the retards gathered in front of the monument :)
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she is using her constitution to brain wash her bloggers,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The issue is that Argtards just lap up her nonsense like mother's milk.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're complete imbeciles.
Poor my British friends whom claim success as a historic event the Faklands. I wish I could take them to listen what is taught about England's 82 shame in the US college undergrad programs. Let's these bunch of retired old men and their rusty Empire to end its last day of puritans and robbery in the bottom of BP dirty sea
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 British Bulldog(#) 38 briton (#)41 briton(#)
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you and the UK feels offended by the argentine leader actions then what the UK is waiting to break diplomatic relations with this sudamerican country? Is time for all of you old bloody rubbish english people to stay away from my country.
44 SussieUS
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is not your country.
so please go back to sleep
Argentina is becoming increasingly isolated from other South American countries apart from the likes of Venezuela and has annoyed Brasil with its non nuclear South Atlantic shouts because Brazil is building 6 nuclear submarines.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The cries of support for the Argentina 'Malvinas' campaign are whispered by other South American countries and only to please Argentina. The have no substance.
The Falklands are British and will remain so as long as their people want to so.
@44 SussieUS
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No-one is in your backward shithole country
tú dices que ustedes son independientes... mi pregunta es:
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¿qué sucedería si ustedes quisieran ahora explotar el petroleo junto a Brasil , Argentina, Uruguay... reemplazando al Reino Unido ¿me podrás explicar cuanto de independientes son? perdona, pero no estoy de acuerdo, ustedes para el Reino Unido aún son un punto estratégico del Atlántico Sur, la verdad es esa y la asumo yo como argentino y deberían asumirlo ustedes. Mis respetos a los caídos de ambos países en la guerra. yo personalmente quiero considerarlos a ustedes buenos vecinos. Yo era niño en 1982 y no quería la guerra.
You say that you are independent ... my question is:
What if you now want to exploit the oil along with Brazil and Argentina, Uruguay ... replacing the United Kingdom, How can you tell me how independents are? sorry, but I disagree, for the UK Falklands are still a strategic point of the South Atlantic, the truth is that, I assume and as Argentine and kelpers should assume. My respects to the fallen of both countries in war. I personally want you to consider them good neighbors. I was a child in 1982 and did not want war.
@32 tigre
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estoy de acuerdo.
45 briton(#) 47 Skare(#)
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You see... you like to offend the sudamerican leader but don't like to accept the truth about the english people.
Not so,
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can only do so much,
we are not the government, and it is frustrating sometimes, but lets be fair her Susie, we, like America and at least 30 others could destroy Argentina, or at the least, inflict thousands and thousands of deaths, and the world would condemn us, [would they not] Argentina is trying to push us to violence, but the British government will not budge,
so CFK tries to humiliate us, but in fact just humiliated herself, you have to understand, we just cant attack her ,,, and she knows this,, but you are right in your perception that we could, impose sanctions and cut of aid, blockade her ports,
But we are British, and it takes time to push us, [well the government]
As we have said before, and I fully stand by it, if the islands were protected by America or the French, we would not be here now, we must be very tactful with children, as frustrating as it is, that is the world we live in today,
Is it not .
Diplomacy is what happens behind the scenes. It is by nature covert, not screaming, demanding and making threats.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In this case, CFKC knows full well she will never have the Falkland Islands but it is not the issue for her. She is screaming and demanding while her goons pick the pocket of the nation.
and as long as her nation lets them,,,they will.
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 my bad... didn't mean 'celebrates' meant 'Anzac Day is a national day of remembrance'
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Battling a bad case of RG 'flu just now...
Meanwhile did anyone else notice a cupla hundred fronted in Ushuaia.... a town with what? 50,000?? Seems the majority don't give a monkey's toss
#43
Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you on about? Your comments are incomprehensible.
#44
If by “my country” you mean Argentina, then you are welcome to it. If you mean the Falklands, then its not your country. Its not Britain's either. It belongs to the islanders. But the difference between Britain and Argentina is that Britain lets the islanders choose their own future - Argentina seeks to impose its version regardless of the islanders views: as Mrs K said, “No nos interesa como piensan”.
One day Malvinas will come again under our sovereignty. I don't know if I will be able to see it, but I'm pretty sure that day will come one day. Surely, that day, UK will be (if it continue to exist) down in the insignificance in the world stage and won't be able to ignore the UN resolutions. That day, UK will not be able to threat us with its military power and will have to give up the islands. That day will be a sad day, but inevitable for those non-people squatters there.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0That day, Argentina will “invite them to stay”, as they like to say regarding 1833 events.
@56 JORGE1982,
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0One day Argentina will come under Brazilian sovereignty.
l don't know if l will be able to see it, but l'm pretty sure that day will come one day.
etc etc, blah blah blah. ldiota.
@54 Frank,
l majored in Australian History & l could only partly understand why Australians picked a defeat at Gallipoli to remember.
Far, far better to celebrate the action in 1918 when Australian & Canadian troops stopped the Germans dead in their tracks at Villiers-Bretoneaux.
After over 4 years of trench warfare, the Germans had finally broken through the defences & were advancing across open country when they were ambushed by Australian lnfantry.
Some were resting behind the lines with their Canadian comrades when the Germans broke through.
The Aussies not only stopped them cold, but forced them to retreat, eventually other British units came up & pushed the Germans back to where they had broken through.
Villiers-Bretoneaux 1918, the battle that saved France.
Celebrated in France every year.
@56 One day Argentina will come again under Spanish sovereignty. I don't know if I will be able to see it, but I'm pretty sure that day will come one day. Surely, that day, Argentinian Colonists will be (if it continue to exist) down in the insignificance in the world stage and won't be able to ignore the UN resolutions (like UNSCR 502 and 505). That day, Argentinian Colonists will not be able to threat us with its military power and will have to give up Argentina. That day will be a sad day, but inevitable for those non-people squatters there.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0That day, Spain will “invite them to stay”, as they like to say regarding 18th Century events.
Yes, Spain will rule Argentina again one day, and clear out the squatters on the land. It is written in the wind.
Jorge. We have a word for people who label people non-people .
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Leave the islanders alone its been 179 years give up.
As for us slipping maybe but are gdp is nearly 5x yours .
howvabout trying to raise your game.
Seen her (The ugly witch of the south), making votes off the backs of the dead, screeching about oil and stolen wealth, lies lies lies. What rubbish and shame, she has no honor, no respect and certainly no feeling for anyone else than herself.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no dispute. We are not in dispute. The Falklands are British.
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Present from Ireland
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://dl.dropbox.com/u/70790426/pod-v-0304125m17sdrivetimeolivia-pid0-317880_audio.mp3
We invited people, and lots turned up to show respect,
Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She invited heads of state and other leaders, and none showed up,
And she still sprouted utter disrespectful insulting rubbish .
And you guys want that as your leader,
indocronoughts .
@62 Fantistic stuff.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the reporter stated they realised when they returned home that they had been the victims of their own self dillusion which was used by the Junta to distracted them away from their country's economic woes.
Please join -
Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the Falklands British -
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
@56 Isolde, I think that they make a big deal about Anzac day as it was the first time that troops from the Commonwealth -as opposed to the separate states - saw action. There is also the thing amongst older Australians that the British had used 'colonial troops' in a campaign that was stuffed from the start... there used to be quite a bit of ill will felt against Churchill on that account.
Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that they have a Dawn Service in Stanley.... it was a crap morning last year.. wet, dark and gloomy so I rolled over and stayed in bed.... I was no end pissed orf when I found that the 15 or so who fronted got an invite back to Guv House for a 'Full English'..............grrrrr
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