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Falkland Islands: Reflections on April 2

Monday, April 2nd 2012 - 15:39 UTC
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By John Fowler - Maybe because the days in the Falklands get noticeably shorter from now on and the onset of winter inevitable, April is nobody's favourite month here. To add to the gathering gloom at this time, hardly a year goes by without some journalist – usually Argentinean – ringing the office to ask how we are 'celebrating' the second of April, which marks the anniversary of the Argentine invasion of the Falklands in 1982. Read full article

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  • Skåre

    John, thanks for a truly dignified article.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Indeed, just wait for the shit to fly in from Argentina.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Betty Boop

    As always a great article.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cristina Fernandez

    I think there is very little chance of any chance to achieve these things in the near future - an interesting article from the BBC website describing how Argentina is beginning to worry it's neighbours.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17576856

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    Excellent John, from the soul...let it roar! Never forgotten, 255 British Task Force Members and 3 Falkland Islands civillians, RIP, the 258.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rob the argentine

    April 2 is a day there is nothing to “celebrate”, is a sad day for the whole world. A day when another crazy war was started, a day another peaceful territory was attacked and all the hate of the intruders showed up.
    It is a really sad day for me too. Sad because all those (argentines and british) fallen in that crazy adventure of the Argentine government in attacking the islands. Also sad because I still see, 30 years later, Argentina still continue acting in the same way. I hope the day when my country changes accepting Falklands for what it really is, a free and peaceful territory with right to self determination.
    All the FREE people worldwide must commemorate this day, honoring those who fell and knowing such barbarity must end.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I wonder if there is any one of our regular argie bloggers who'd dare to admit the truth of this article. And it is true!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17576856

    “Like Bolivia and Venezuela, Argentina has now cut its links with US policy on drug control, forcing the American Drug Enforcement Administration to leave the country.”

    Now there is an April Fools Joke: American Drug Enforcement Administration.... the whole country is one big junky family! Heck of an enforcement!!

    Good-bye.

    Foreign Secretary William Hague told me in London: “People in Argentina would be very much mistaken if they thought Britain was retreating from the scene, or is not interested in the region, or is weakening in any way in our commitment to the people of the Falkland Islands.”

    Point 1: Argentina will push Britain out of Latin America. Us vs You for control of the region. You got no business in mainland Latin America.
    Point 2: who cares?
    Point 3: That's acceptable. You should protect the Falklanders.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zethe

    “Argentina will push Britain out of Latin America.”

    No. Leverage.

    You can't do nothing.

    “Us vs You for control of the region. ”

    You seriously have an overinflated opinion of your nation's importance in the world or even in Latin america.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    LOL! Sky News were showing CFKC's rambling speech live, not realising she goes on for hours. She is playing the classic victim-widow-woman, “Argentina has been the victim of many wars.....” Um, you started the wars! And also claiming that it was not the Argentine people that went to war against the Falklands, they were all prisoners of the military junta. Ummm.

    She is as mad as a box of farts.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Haha Troll, that is some most excellent trolling.

    Remind me where Peru and Chile are again?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #8 Surprised it took you so long!

    “Point 1” - look at a map: The Falklands are not in “Mainland Latin America”;

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    zethe, the only over-inflated egoes are YOU.

    I'm getting sick of your ilk, as are all Argentines. We stood up to you and the Spanish and the French in the 19th century, it was Argentina that liberated half of Latin America and provided support even in North America for republicans. We fought two British invasions off.

    Britain itself admits it 'withdrew' from Latin America.

    No one noticed.

    So where is all your influence, fool?

    You left nothing happened.

    Argentina sneezes, Latin America shudders.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    'Argentina sneezes, Latin America shudders.'

    I am in agreement the shuddering of 'he comes crazy CFK' yet again with her latest ridiculous policy.

    SA isn't scared about Argentina hence all of the recent attacks on Argentina, there was another one just today by Uruguay!

    Argentina isn't nothing but a chilidish bully other countries are now standing up to.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    We Argentine recognized long time ago that you are all British and expect you all to go back home and stop squatting in Islas Malvinas Argentina that's all we strongly support your rights to return to UK and we will push for a US style deportation order for all non Argentine illegally occupying Islas Malvinas Argentina and even a execution order for anyone taking up weapons against any argentine patriot, equal rights is just around the corner for everyone.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    “Argentina sneezes, Latin America shudders”

    Thats a good one! Is it the first of April?

    You really are a complete idiot if you believe this fanciful chauvinistic propaganda.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Latin America will step in line, always has.

    Time to put all these Europeans in their place, Spanish, British, Norwegian, German, whoever else in this website. Time to bring out the skeletons.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Lol Pirat-Hunter, now that truly is funny.

    You really couldn't make it up.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @15 Pirat-Hunter

    The only equal right in Argentina is the equal right to be screamed at by a mental neo-fascist barmpot with a bad wig and 2” of makeup plastered on her face.

    But thanks for mentioning execution orders and reminding us all just how truly Neanderthal everything about the friendless Argentina is.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    John a very restrained article.
    Personally I thought stanely was quiet in 1992 when i visted.
    Argentina shudders latin anerica rolls its eyes for months of whinging about manflu and how the virus came from the falklands and howcpirate flu is much much worse than a normal cold.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Got to watch out for that pirate flu but even more dangerous to an Argentine is lead poisoning......... apparently

    Its got to the point now where all I can do is laugh at them and pity them.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    A very good article, it painted an honest picture in my head of the situation.

    As a side note, KFC reminds me of a Bat-man villain and I cannot figure out which one it is.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    English still have --- HOOLIGANISM --- problem , who have not become wiser yet ,since 1985 Belgium massacre..

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @23

    That's true. So in somethings UK is still #1 after-all. Forgot about the Hooligans and all the crap the World Cup hostting nations have to take from these drunken chavs.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Trying distraction again? It doesn't work.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @25 Those Le Camping Gimps stick to their strategy like glue, but the attempts to drag people off topic are just so weak.

    Why can't they just talk about the humanity of the senseless war they caused like in the article?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @24 Truth_Telling_Troll

    Shame that the Argentine propagandists overlook the fact that Argentina has a history of football hooliganism stretching back into the 19th century and that massively more people are killed by football hooliganism in Argentina than have ever been killed in the UK. Too inconvenient to remember that? Too inconvenient to remember the more than 300 football fans who died and more than 500 injured during rioting at a match against Perú?

    Snivelling uneducated hypocrites!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I'm sorry that this sober and well written article is soiled with such ignorant comments from my Argentina neighbors on the other side of the Andes. Their long rambling rants makes little sense. But that's not so unusual for a country led by a woman who “is as mad as a box of farts.” This silly idea that when Argentina is ill, we in South America suffer is fantasy. Check the health of Chile and Brazil and you'll discover we're doing perfectly well.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    The anniversary is being covered really well by the TV here in the UK, with programs giving a lot of first-hand accounts of what happened 30 years ago, despite the sorrow they obvious feel, everybody remains very positive.
    Apart from a lot of news coverage there have been excellent dedicated programs, 3 of the best I’ve listed:

    Falkland combat medics: 2 hours of what a small team of medics had to put up with to save the lives of all they received, British and Argentine.

    Return to the Falklands: 3 very brave soldiers recall the taking of Goose Green.

    Falklands Legacy: A Prime Minster for once didn’t back down, but has it led to subsequent PM’s thinking war is a way to popularity.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Doesn’t sound like the Islanders will be having anything to do with Argentina, anytime soon.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    isnt it that UK celebrates the 14 of june????
    what happens copiers, (copiones) cant you wait??
    you are so clowns.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    I have appreciated Margaret Thatcher always...

    I belive that the UK does need a new Margareth Thatcher to punish Hooligans as like made after historic Liverpool--Juventus match....

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I've got to give it to you McClick, you're making more sense for a bot these days, I mean like 40% of your posts make sense now!

    Keep up the good work!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @30

    And that hurts Argentina because...

    (except the Malvinistas who want to force stuff upon them, which I'm not).

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    the man of the photo should take care there are two nails getting out of the wood behind him......he needs a hammer (you say hammer or hummer, well I mean martillo)

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    I remember the song of “” If Ihad a hammer............................. “”
    was said by “” Trini Lopez “”......!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 34

    Only in so far as if there is an oil boom, the business will go via Uruguay not Argentina.

    Other than that it will not affect Argentina in the slightest.

    The least possible contact between Argentina and the Falkland Islands is probably for the best all round.

    The Islanders need to develop links which are more secure, not reliant upon the politics of the day in Argentina.

    And for the Islands to prosper and grow without any contact with Argentina, is the only way the malvinistas will see the world has passed them by.

    Your views on the rights of the Islanders are many times stated here.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @ 15

    No such place as Malvinas - this must be a fantasy island or some other place that the Argentinians dream about. However, there is a place called the FALKLAND ISLANDS.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    More of the same old 'we are the victims' rubbish from the 'Glorious Leader' aka The Mad Bitch, ramblings I hear.

    It is the same in the Telegraph with one little Argentino teenager 'Carlos Roque Garcia' (picturing a 'pretty-boy') mouthing 'British assholes' over and over again. He was 'ably' supported by 'mariano' who claimed 'we will fight them on the websites'.

    Unfortunately for Brits coming late to the site, both these morons have had their posts removed. It was just so funny to read the comments which could be predicted with absolute accuracy as to their veracity.

    You can see the makings of two more Malvs here without a doubt. Both of course used Espanol as they were too illiterate and uneducated even for American, nevermind proper English. Brainwashed future government ministers in the making here.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    You have to feel a little sympathy for them. Poor wages. Raging inflation. Their country going broke. They needed to join a tribe that gives them hope; albeit false hope.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    #40
    Poor wages: yes, this calculator really puts it into perspective
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17512040
    Must be a bit galling for the poor dears to be behind Jamaica and only a little ahead of Botswana. And to think that before years of Peronist corruption and mismanagement they were up there with Canada. What wasted opportunity.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @42

    Yup, if you look at urban pictures of Argentina, Jamaica and Botswana, both look exactly alike. Good work Sherlock!

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Pogor - 37 - “Only in so far as if there is an oil boom, the business will go via Uruguay not Argentina.”

    Then let's hope there IS one! Uruguay has been singularly unfortunate in this respect so far.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    Stop trying, John Fowler, the Malvinistas can't change, these people are f*cked for all their lives.

    @ 35 funny, and the islands are British :)

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @42 I just looked at urban pictures of Argentina (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801178.html) and it looks like a miserable slum, not unlike you'd find in Africa.

    I will say again, the concept of handing the Falklands over to a corrupt backward state that is incapable of even delivering the basics of what the Islanders currently receive is morally and ethically repugnant. This is regardless of how much fatty-tub-tub's blackshirts graffiti a high street bank.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    Clown!

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diegocba

    autodetermincacion right there, if units invaded the islands. Remember .... are the country with more colonies worldwide ......... does that mean to you? I'd like an answer .. which MEANS respectful colonialism? that is freedom?

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    From what I understand, colonialism is where a foreign power supplants a population in another land with it's own people, usually at the expense of local resources and commonly resulting in the decimation of the original peoples. Good examples might be Argentina, Brazil, Mexico...

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • uruk

    Folks! Don't respond to any comments by these overinflated Argies who are actually striken by a huge, disabling inferiority complex. They can only bully, intimidate, swear and abuse. They don't give a bloody shit about human right of the islanders, they don't give a damn for the grief of mothers. They can only continue trade with the obnoxious deaths of their children, knowingly sent to the battlefront and still scapegoats of their own paltry intentions. Shame on them, shame on all supporters of this grotesque masquerade!

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    ~42
    Stop trying to raise red herrings. Address the point I made. Go to the web link I gave you and open the calculator - click “my wage”. Then compare the average wage in Argentina with that in the UK. Then compare it with Canada's. Then think why it is that Argentina's average wage is so much lower - remember that in the 1920's Argentina was as wealthy as Canada. Then think - if its not too much effort - on what most economics put this down to - chronic economic mis-management and chronic corruption on the part of successive Argentinian government, particularly thoe peronist and military regimes. Then ask yourself why the Islanders would rather be British.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @31 malen,
    Yes, malen we do celebrate the 14th of June when the invading Argentines surrendered to our superior forces.
    We have parties in various houses & when you arrive we use Argentine flags as doormats to wipe our feet on.
    Happy now?
    You have no right of complaint. you burn ours, so we clean the mud from our farms on yours.
    We can use the same ones over & over, while you have to buy new ones each time you want to burn one! heh,

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @51 to be fair, their flag does look pretty terrible. Can you buy an argentinian flag doormat anywhere?

    Yes you can >> http://www.intlgiftshop.com/product/28521028/argentine-flag-small-doormat

    Can you buy Argentinian flag toilet roll?

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redcoat

    @31 malen
    We are not tasteless Argentinians, so were not celebrating, we were remembering 255 British servicemen and 3 Islanders who died giving back the right of the Falklands to decide their own future.

    And I’m sure as Argentina had murdered thousands of their own people, they weren’t above doing the same to the islanders, so to remove any arguments against Argentinian sovereignty.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    31 malen

    Who, but a load of arseholes 'celibrates' the start of a war.

    We mark the end of war. And in the case of the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) WE WON IT.

    I know you bunch of deluded, indoctrinated idiots cannot get your heads around that FACT, but that is what it is, A FACT.

    The Mad Bitch who you lot voted in with 36.2% of the elligible vote believe her when she says you ALMOST won it. But you did not.

    BTW I hear you are female, is that correct?

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    ( 52 )

    You can buy this very cheap toilet roll ..........

    http://www.gettingpersonal.co.uk/fun-gifts/england-loo-roll.htm

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    To Fowler. Among your list, do you also want a cake? All of the things of that list could be done. But not all together. If you get one you loose another.

    To those who think we “celebrate” on 2nd April. You are wrong. Simple as that. We don't celebrate, we conmemorate the veterans and fallen from the Malvinas War. Do you know about the vigilia? If you did you would get a better idea of what we do.
    We go to the squares, sing the hym, sing the march of Malvinas, we praise our veterans for the effort they made, we remember the fallen as the heroes they are, and we remember that war is not an option and that we have to be proud of not wanting it. There are obviously politic discourses, as in everything we do(part of our culture by now), but that doesn't mean a celebration. At least not by Latin culture standards.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @55 No you cannot. It clearly says it's discontinued.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    @57 Get a red marker pen and problem solved.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    What mindless fools 'celebrate' a war they lost? Argentina. At least we commemorate the fallen from both sides. Dignity and respect, a virtue sadly missing by some bloggers here like the Troll etc. Because a heartfelt truthfull account was published, they have to debase the story with crap throwing. CFK has made an arse of herself yet again in front of her own people who seem to believe every word she says, sad fools, thank God the rest of the planet realise she is as artificial as her face. Can't wait until all this hype calms down and the RG's wake up to the reality of life and see how much deep shit they are in.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diegocba

    para los habitantes de las islas.. que significa para vosotros colonialismo? piratas.

    Apr 03rd, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    @59
    As I said, you people still don't get it. We commemorate our fallen(not yours, and we won't for a long time I guess) and our veterans. And also we remember war is not an option at all and that we will always follow the diplomatic way and get them that way. There it ended. Now, do you see people celebrating? What is a celebration for you? Here, the least you need is people in the street dancing, some food and people being happy and laughing. If not it's not a celebration. Did you see any of those? No, there weren't. If you British people think it's a celebration, good for you. Here, where it matters, it's not regarded as one.

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    @61
    I think you might be a reasonable person and I'm glad that you have pointed out that you were not 'celebrating' invading the Falkland Islands, but, rather, remembering the souls of fellow countrymen who died in the service of their country. That is my point, the fact that they were sent to their deaths by a bunch of evil dictators and by proxy, were part of an venture that was both illlegal and foolhardy to say the least and there you have a leader trying to stir up old myths and lies created by said dictators. Your President is a mouthy egotististical monster. I have visited the Argentinean cemetery in the Falklands to pay my respects, I have stood at the Monument in BA and I have met many Argentinean veterans. I am a British veteran and most veterans from both sides wish peace, we are the ones who continue to suffer while our politicians score points off the backs of our comrades past and present. Its time to allow those who spilt blood to rest in peace. Forget the Falkland Islands, they don't belong to you, never have and never will. Go home and care for your families and remember your dead with respect.

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please join -

    Keep the Falklands British -

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1

    Apr 04th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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