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Education absorbs 25% of the Falklands budget; students are funded to study in UK universities
Education is one of those intangible values that demand a huge percentage of the Falkland Islands budget, close to 25%, according to Jan Cheek, member of the elected Legislative Assembly and head of the education portfolio. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules10 units students absorb 25 % of budget ..
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0what a extraordinary budget ...
certainly all revenues go to City/London....
@1 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? And your evidence for this is what exactly?
@1 -McClicj, just because you say something doesn't make it true. Your Proof? Of Wikipaedia doesn't constitute proof as anyone can add any old drivel to it.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0| 2 |
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0FAO report !
When it unilateraly established maritime jurisdiction over the 200 nautical miles surrounding the islands in 1986...and set up the Falkland Islands Fishing Ordinance ,it began selling fishing licences to countries Poland ,Japan,South Korea according to the report “” Maritime Briefing “” on these frigid islands ,after the ordinance was established “” licences fees subsequently brought in several millions pounds per year “”
Report says that harvest of squids alone yielding 20.6 millions pounds in 1992....today ?..appetizer..!
Now..I ask where is the money ?..where is the yearly revenues ?
@4 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, so you have no evidence at all - you are just making spurious allegations for the advancement of trolling.
Who is England ?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is England that ..
Though there were joint scientific studies of fish stocks ,the sales of fishing licences remained exclusively English(British).Though the UK allowed families of Argentine soldiers killed during the war to visit the islands...it unilateraly claimed maritime jurisdiction around the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands..and while Argentina and UK set up a joint commission into the oversea oil explorations in the disputed waters..UK continued its independent sale of numerous oil licences.....
@1 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0click happy again - but no real facts.
The figures for 2008/2009:-
Students overseas - 34 students in Further Education and 32 students in Higher Education.
The total estimated costs of Further and Higher Education to the Government will be approximately £750,000.
Students in education on the Falkland Islands, 350+
*yawn*
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You made the claim that the moneys go to “City/London”. Prove it and stop trying to keep diverting attention with your incoherent Google-translated drivel.
PS: Nice bit of revisionism on the licences by the way. You may just want to check on which agreements Nestor unilaterally tore up in his many strops (and indeed when he did it). People can't be held to agreements that you yourself have very publicly disowned.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0350 student ? you have any records ?
350 students cost is ~ £ 100.000 in England...
I ask where is the fishing & oil licences revenues ??
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Proving is your problem not mine !...grow up...
I merely ask where is the fish & oil revenues ??
@9 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0No you didn't merely ask. You made direct allegations.
As ever, you are just trolling with your usual banal drivel. Grow up.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0sorry mate ..
i never do womanish comments....
(you know the jargon meaning of “” do ” ? )
I can listen you if you have serious arguments...
@McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0#9
No dear, proving an allegation that YOU made is for YOU to prove. The burden of proof in this case, as in all others, falls squarely on the shoulders of a drible-brained nit-wit with a chip on his shoulder*.
*I make this allegation having read many of your other mindless ramblings on Mercopress. You clearly despise Britian (for the sake of despising Britian) and have NO understanding whatsoever of how the relationship between the FI and UK governments works in practice, of how little power the UK monarch actually has (she's a figurehead, and little more; and I speak as a staunch UK republican/anti-monarchist who wished to see her replaced with a directly elected executive cabinet! So I'm no fan/apologist.) and now, apparently, how territorial waters, exclusive economic zones (EEZs) and continental shelfs are apportioned under international law (see UNCLoS).
@9 McClick - you seem to have factored the cost of tuition into your numbers but what about accommodation for these £350 people? Even 1 bedroom flats can cost £550 a month or more depending on the part of the UK your are in. In London, you'd be looking at probably twice that much. Then you have to take into account gas and electric, water rates, council tax, food, clothings, books and writing materials, computers, a bit of spending money so they can act like real student and go out and get smash, etc... And then there's the cost of the flights, which are quite expensive to and from the Falklands.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0How the Falkland Islands government chooses to spend its money is their business. If they wish to spend it on fully funding their young people so they can better themselves and bring a brighter future to the Falklands is none of your concern, or mine.
@11 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another diversion from your stupid lies, eh?
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britian ?
Britain is invaded by Armeninas after Indians ..??
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Your outlay numbers could be valid for college/university students in UK.....but these frigid islands have only primary/secondary school.
@15 I don't know if you are being deliberately stupid or you really are just ignorant.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes the Falklands only have Primary and Secondary educational facilities, which is why their young people have to come to the UK for higher education. Hence the huge costs, Britain is not a cheap country to live in. If the Falklands had their own university they may have chosen to stay their and learn, but it hasn't so sending their young people away is the only way they can get further education.
If the Falklander Islanders were sending their young people to study in the USA or Brazil, would you then be accusing their governments of stealing money?
Oh and the comment you made in response to 12 makes no sense, not in English, and I very much doubt in any other language on the planet.
@15 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well DOH! They ARE the outlay for all stages of education, including further education from the age of 16 onwards at schools, universities and colleges etc. in UK .. you know, with a hostile and inaccessible Buenos Aires not really being the option it used to be.
You've just demonstrated that you didn't even bother to read the article before tossing your dyslexic propagandist drivel into the mix.
McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Educational Dept Doc 2011
The Infant Junior School and Camp Education has approximately 260 pupils of 3+ – 11 years. The Falkland Islands Community School has 158 pupils in the 11-16 age range. Numbers on roll fluctuate, so it is difficult to be 100% accurate. Both are fully inclusive schools.
If i were a Islander I would go to Aussie for university and never come back...!
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I was Aussie, I wouldn't have you.
Why ?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I merely ask where is the fish & oil revenues ?”
First line of the article you moron.
”Our budget is 42 million pounds (67.1 million dollars)”
If you choose to disbelieve that then that's your problem, cretin.
@16 LEPRecon
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0In his response to 12, I think our 11-year-old troll is suggesting that Britain has been the victim of successive waves of immigration and that this is somehow a negative .. even though he is a shining example of the unfortunate price of trying to keep your gene-pool restricted to your own immediate family.
McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are approximately 30 births a year, although the number has been rising in the past couple of years. That gives you an idea of how many children are in the education system. Of those a significant percentage opt for post 16 education.
You asked where all our money is from our various industries. It's in the bank, che, where else would it be!
Far out of reach of that grasping harridan in BsAs.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think their budget is much more declared numbers..
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EU says .....
Acquisitions of UK citizenship in the years
2002 ...120.100
2003 ... 130.500
2004 ....148.500
2005 .... 161.800
2006 .... 154.000
2007..... 164.500
2008..... 129.300
2009..... 203.600
who came from (former citizenship of them)
13.3 % ....from....India
10.3 %....from.....Pakistan
5.9 % .....from.....Bangladesh
5.8 % .....from....Philippines
4.1 % ...from ...South Africa..
rest are ....from.... other countries....
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Malta citizenship acquiring
38.2 %....from...Australia
12.6 % ...from...UK
5.1 % ...from ....Canada
4.7 % ....from...South Africa
4.5 % ....from....USA
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As we se that the most people think/live differently in the real world
while we chat here....
@23 Skare, I find his posts mostly incomprehensible. Besides my grandfather was an immigrant into the UK. He left Ireland to fight the Axis in WW2, and just never bothered going back.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now that I think of it, he was probably and illegal alien, but no one was really bothered about stuff like that after the war. Many nationalities from many different countries, who'd fought on the allies side stayed in Britain after the war. I know that an awful lot of Poles settled in Scotland.
All these other people who have emergrated since have added to our culture, making it better and more tolerant. Yes you will always get a few who detract and try and make things worse, but on the whole I think Britain is the better for it.
@26 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0And do I think you don't have a clue what you are talking about and just claim to think whatever you believe will wind people up.
McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are talking about ?
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0We should talk with the people why to choose UK citizenship
Main previous citizenship of persons acquiring foreign citizenship' country preferences :
85.3 % of Indians prefered UK citizenship
82.9 % of Pakistani prefered UK citizenship
84.7 % of Bangladesh ...........51.2 %(Russia).....13.9%(Turkey)....7.8 %(Romania)......77.6 %(Somalia)....68.3 % (Nigeria)....12.1 %(Ukrania)......6.2 % (Portugal).....2.5 (Ecuador).....78.1 % (Philippines)....42 % (Afghanistan)....54.3 % (China).....87.4%(South Africa)...31.4 % (Iran)....2.2% (Peru).....55.2%(SriLanka)...97.5%(Zimbabwe)......33.1% (Iraq)......5.5 % (Algeria).....5.4 % (Albania)......
@McLobotomy
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still trolling with irrelevant nonsense, McShitforbrians?
20 Skåre (#) Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:29 am
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 McClick
If I were Aussie, I wouldn't have you.
If I were an Aussie, I would first laugh my socks at Clicky boy and then play soccer with Clicky boys head and then put Clicky boy on the next boat out of Melbourne going south without warm clothing.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't comment..just saying the reality...
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I said that “” if i were an Islander........................“”
I do believe the Aussie will adopt the people who want to escape from these frigid islands..
@33 McClick. You keep saying 'Frigid Islands', and keep, quite erronously claiming that the people there want to escape them.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well if the Islands are so chilly that no one would want to live there, why is Argentina so interested in getting hold of them?
If the people of the Falklands truly wanted to escape from the Islands, they could, it isn't difficult to do.
No the Falkland Islanders are just that, Falkland Isalanders, who are a British Overseas Territory, and they like living there.
If you don't like the country you live in so much, feel free to push off to some other country, assuming you meet their immigration standards, which by the quality of your posts is doubtful.
12 anubeon
Apr 07th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you Lee Hyde by any chance?
And you must be the only one actively seeking the demise of the Monarchy who has had the 'courage' to admit it.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We must be realistic....
These islands is used only a composite military base/complex where is very normal...
Noone can understand what the Argentina want to make at this region ,its policies not clear and certainly is small player against UK.
The only reason the is a military base on the Falklands is because Argentina illegally invaded the territory in 1982, ignored the UN resolution telling them to leave.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By it's aggressive actions, the Argentine government declared war on the UK. Since we all know what happened next was the British liberation of the islands, it would have been lunacy on the part of Britain not to secure the Islands.
The number of troops and assets have dropped significantly compared to immediately after the war, but since Argentina continues it's belligerent stance towards the people of the Falklands, the troops will stay, indefinitely if necessary.
@ChrisR
Apr 07th, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#35
I am indeed, have we met on the interwebs before?
I'm hardly alone in my rebuplicanism, and it's hardly courageous; the UK government don't lock us away for being republicans. ;-)
Although republicans aren't really permited to serve in parliament (at least, not without pledging allegiance to the Monarchy). Also, if opinion polls re. the Monarchy are to be believed we're a minority (albeit a significant one) in the UK. Although I regard those opinion polls as more a matter of celebrity popularity. I doubt anyone would embrace the aristocratic principle upon which Monarchy (even our powerless constitutional Monarchy) is based.
Anywho, that's all very off topic. Back to quitely sniggering at @McClick's mindless and barely deciferable twaddle (Google translate is far more fluent in English, surely!)
@36 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure I am wasting my time telling you this, but the Falkland Islands are home to approx 3000 civilians. The service men and woman at the military base are an important part of our community but there is more to the Islands than that. You really should come here and see for yourself.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forgive me for my late response.....
Obviously these Islands is very cash rich.....
Though .I believe Aussie is more appropriate place than These Islands for you ( @ 24 ....$ 25) beautiful ladies....
@40 - if you like Austailia so much feel free to go and live there yourself. However they have very high immigration standards, so I doubt you'll make the grade.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe the Aussies already have their quota of ignorant people, but with selective breeding they think they'll have this problem under control soon.
McClick where u dropped on you`r head at birth by any chance
Apr 07th, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 anubeon
Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite a few of us are convinced that McClick is a bot, albeit 2nd or 3rd generation, but not human.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think their high standarts are very suitable for me....
I think their “” selective breeding “” ( is it the copy of former Nazi project?)
project is utmost compatible to me....but noone guarantee next genious generations ,a genious can born from ordinary parents..
Of course ,Australia is a lucky but not a perfect country where has some
economic problems one of them is having distressful affordability housing rates and their high prices...their mortgeges and tax burden
are very problematic...for instance that..
If you are wage earner in Australia..average before tax wages have risen from $ 505 a week in 1992 to $ 996 a week at the end of 2011..so they have almost doubled ...using an average tax rate of 28 % that gives the average wage earner $ 777 after tax a week today,versus $ 394 back in 1992......
In the early 1990 s ..a young wage earner could aspire to financing a house purchase using his or her income alone..Now ? that 's out of the question......
The most wage earner couples simply don't have much have that much
headroom in their budgets..they can't pay the the rates,food bills,the petrol and education fees with les than three quarters of their after tax incomes ....
Generally the growth of household house purchasing debts is what really drove house prices higher,and now that ..mortgage debts/GDP is starting to turn so too house prices up just as in USA....
I don't know why McClick and the rest of the argentine bunch spout this ridiculous nonsense everyday. The Falkland islands are British, and always will be British. There is no way whatsoever that Argentina will be able to take them, except through force, which is almost an impossibility due to its dire military. Give up argentina, get over it and do try and do something productive.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australia is reputedly a beautiful county but the heat and the big spiders convince me that I am better off in the Falklands.
(45) Albion
Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong in two accounts......
1) Mr. McClick is MOT Argentinean. He does NOT belong to our bunch.
2) The Malvinas Islans will return to be Argentinean. As sure as my name is “Think”.
@47 Think
Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am changing your name to Think_again_buster, because they will never became Argentinian without a seismic and sustained long-term change in policy on the part of the Argentinian government :)
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0heat and big spiders ....can be used and understood differently in American accent(US)
you should not afraid of kidnapping from these islands despite of Argentina ...
@47 Think
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is McShitforbrains then if he isn't one of your motley crew?
I'm at a loss to think how argentina will ever possess the islands. Please enlighten me as to how you will achieve this
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0McClick - just what is your nationality? The Mc would suggest Scottish, but going by your blogs I find it difficult to believe, as you write as if English isn't your native tongue.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 It will never happen. The Falkland Island will remain British as long as the Islanders wish it. Nothing has changed and nothing will change.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines make a lot of noise but they are entiredly impotent when it comes to the Falklands. Besides, they are going to be very distracted just surviving after the approaching economic crash.
Why does CFKC spend so much time hiding out these days?
@1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 15, 19, 26, 30, 33, 36, 40, 44. Now that I've read all your intricate and erudite “comments” can I raise a few points for you to answer?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Can you explain the connection between the value of the revenue from fishing licences and the value of the annual catch of “fish”?
2. As fishing licences are issued by the Falkland Islands Government, would you not question a “report” that characterises this as being ”English (British)“?
3. Who are ”Armeninas“?
4. What exactly is the relevance of statistics relative to the acquisition of UK citizenship and a comparison with the acquisition of Malta citizenship?
5. Surely your comment @36 is abstruse? If the Islands are only a composite base/complex funded by the UK, why is the FIG selling fishing and oil exploration licences?
6. Is there some reason why the domestic housing situation in Australia is of any moment or relevance?
7. Can you explain why ”Think“ reckons you are not an argie? The concept that you do ”NOT belong to his bunch“ of high school drop-out trolls is, naturally, irrelevant. You could still be an ordinary argie twat. Although your familiarity with the Australian domestic housing market together with your inability to type proper English or use intelligence does tend to suggest that you are a recent illegal immigrant to Australia, land of the convicts. Any comment?
@47 But your name isn't ”Think“, is it? It's something like ”Maximo”, isn't it?
I suppose the easy way to determine McShitforbrains' nationality (or at least mother tongue) would be to reverse translate his gibberish in Google Translate (and it is VERY obvious that every single one of his comments has been translated into his idea of English using Google Translate, or the like.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been looking at McClick's postings and I have not a clue what he is on about ! For a start, he is certainly not Scottish. I have a very good knowledge of Scottish surnames and there is certainly nothing like his “name”.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His grammar and syntax are not of the English language nor anything that would be taught in Australia. So would he like to tell us from where he originates ?
I may disagree violently with some of the Argentine posters but no doubt it is their belief no matter how erroneous.
I think we should all do McClick a favour - ignore him and do not reply to his jibes. He obviously likes trying to wind people up to make them reply.
(48) Skåre
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A seismic and sustained long-term strengthening of the Argentinean and other regional governments policies on the “Malvinas Issue” IS on its way.
Remember, next year is the 180th anniversary of the British usurpation of the Malvinas Islands.
Sadly, the FCO has awakened a bit to soon for my liking and is taking some counter-measures.
We could have used a couple more years of their “Just ignore the Buggers” policy.
(50) Skare
Mr. McClick is an oddball in here at Mercopress.
He goes under many names (Geo, MurkyThink, MistyThink and others jeg ikke umiddelbart kan huske…)
I “Think” he is somewhere from the Balkans and I have no idea why he trolls here.
But I think it is funny to see all the time he sucks out from the Anglos :-)
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to learn the house rules....
11 ) i didn't understand its language..
12 ) You must have multi login accounts to talk yourself the reason why you can not find any interlocutors everytime here....
McClick, or Think, how is argentina going to take the islands? I would love to know
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58 McClick
Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got it. Serbian with a mahoosive chip on your shoulder.
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bonnie !
The prefix of “” Mac “” means “” son of “” in Gaelic..
“”Mac“” is variously interpretated as “” Mc“”...
The suggestion of “” Mac “” is Scottish...“” Mc“” is Irish ..is not true....
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Apr 07th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know what is it..
let's ask it to poster “” Stanic “” it is serbian or not ...
Darko Stanic certainly is (what an unfortunate name)
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(59) Albion
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No sweat....
Just ask my MP...
His name is George Galloway....
I'm asking you. And i am not going to ask some fool of a man who lost all credibility on a tv show. Can you answer or are you going to continue to dodge?
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(65) Albion
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I’m answering you
MP George Galloway has delivered the answer you are asking for to in innumerable occasions.
In a much better English than I could ever dream of mastering and with that wonderful Scottish accent with those rrrolling Rrrrs .
Google him
Youtube him
Call him
That’s all the answer you’ll get from me, lad.
No f***er can understand a word George Galloway says though.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please join and press the LIKE button, we would like to expand to over 20,000 members on all three lists...
Apr 07th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Keep the Falklands British -
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
2. Falklands Forever British
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
3. We Will Never Surrender the Falklands
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619?sk=wall&filter=1
Join the growing cause to protect the Falklands from Argentine aggression!
@Think (66)
Apr 07th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly has George Galloway, a pathetic embarassment to the left (and I'm a lefty!) especially on the matter of the Falklands Issue, proposed that would a) resolved the sovereignty issue and b) lead to Argentina gaining sovereignty?
Galloway is a flash in the pan politician. The like of him gaining any significant power within the UK political system is next to nill, as is the likelyhood of him persuading the British political establishment/people to abandon the Falkland Islanders and the right to self-determination. So I fail to see how he has any answers at all! The absolutist possition of Argentina (that full sovereignty transfer is the only possible/constitutional outcome) remains irreconcilable with the UK (and UN) dedication to the right to self-determination.
Galloway's opinions are entirely mutable (Arab and 'leftist' dicatotors are Okay; right wing dictators, not so much). He denies the right of self-determination to the Falkland Islanders, on the grounds that such rights belong to nations, not peoples (which is patently not true; a cursory reading of UN resolutions would prove that). Such an absurd stance would have seen India retained under the authority of the British Raj for the simple reason that the British Raj (an established 'nation') had the right to self-determination, whereas the peoples of India wouldn't. Hell, Argentina et. al. would remain under Spanish rule today if the inalienable right to self-determination were defined in such pro-establishment, authoritarian terms!
I also don't see the groundswell of support amongst S. American nations you described earlier @Think. Beyond the usual polite solidarity of S. American nations, which has little substance at all (as witnessed by the poor showing of S. American ambassadors at the recent Falkland War commemorations, and other indicators of luke warm support). It's quite one thing to say you support a claim, but quite another to do anything meaningful IN support of a claim.
66 Think
Apr 07th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't underestimate yourself old chap. You could have been every bit as famous as gorgeous George. All you had to do was marry the next Mrs Think without divorcing the previous one.
And any old fool can spout gibberish in a Scottish accent. Give it a go, you'd surprise yourself. It works better in a lycra suit though.
Ah yes yet more meaningless incoherent dribble from McClick who is also Max and Think.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think by name is quite clearly ironic. I love the suggestion of giving the Islands back for two reasons;
1. Argentina has NEVER owned the Islands in any other capacity except their fantasies
2. It's quite clearly never going to happen.
(69) Anubeon
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will tell you what is ”Patently Not True“............
”Patently Not True” is when you base your whole argumentation on a fallacy:
”He (MP Galloway) denies the right of self-determination to the Falkland Islanders, on the grounds that such rights belong to nations, not peoples“....... You say…..
Well that was ”Patently Not True”....
George Galloway is on record on various videos on Youtube clearly stating, in his most beautiful Scottish accent, that such rights belong to nations AND to peoples.
But that Falklanders are NOT a nation nor a people…………, they are BRITISH.
And, as such they have the right of self-determination………., in BRITAIN.
The only embarrassment to the left I can see in here is you.
Please do your homework and then revert……...if you still feel like it.
George Galloway is a joke. He may believe in the nonsense he spouts but his huge ego will always control his actions. For a short while he gained some credibility with groups like the SWP when he formed Respect but his overwhelming desire for fame and attention led him to make the monumentally stupid decision to enter the Celebrity Big Brother house. He lost all credibility, people left Respect and other left-wing groups he was associated with.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There will always be a minority that will follow him - the late Screaming Lord Such of The Monster Raving Looney Party attracted a following - but neither was or will ever be taken seriously. If the CFKC followed are nailing their flag to this idiot I can only assume things are far worse than any of us imagined.
Why is CFKC spending so much time holed up in her house, rather than addressing the problems of Argentina. I have an idea.
The writer a couple of posts back is right. The islanders are British and they have the right to self-determination in Britain and British territory which is what the Falkland Islands is. So Falkland Islanders are British citizens sticking to their right of self determination on their British land.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(70) Monty96
Apr 07th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back from the wilderness I see…....... Hope everything went well…
I wonder …..... Have you had the chance to read this article?:
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/04/05/hundreds-of-dead-dolphins-in-peruvian-beaches-offshore-acoustic-testing-leading-suspect
Would you care to give us your expert comment on it?
Thanks in advance...
@Think (72)
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No @Think, he said precisely that on a recent episode of 10 o'Clock Live. So less of the self-righteous indigation you ignorant fool!
The Falkland Islanders ARE what they say they are. If they consider themselves a distinct peoples, you sanctimonious drip, then that's precisely what they are. Just as the Scottish, Welsh, Irish, English, Manx, Cornish, etc... are a distinct 'people' within the United Kingdom. It is not for some twerp like you (or indeed I) to say otherwise. After all, the same 'logic' could have been used (and arguably, though I would not) still be used to describe the Argentine people as Spanish settelers, and nothing more.
The Falkland Islanders thus have the right to self-determination in their homeland. Which, like it or not, is for many of them the Falkland Islands. It is where many of them were born, it was where many of them can trace their ancestory for multiple generation (which is more than can be said for any Argentine!) and as such Great Britain is as alien to them as Spain would be to any Argentine.
How exactly I am an 'embarrasment to the left' is beyond me. George Galloway has form in this arena, and I'm far from the only lefty (in the UK at least) who sees him for what he is. I can only assume that you regard any lefty who doesn't conform to your narrow, conformist notions of solidarity (with South America) as an embarassment. If that is the case, might I suggest you grow some sodding principles instead of adhering to same mindless tropes and mores that have degenerated leftist revolutions throughout history. Namely blind solidarity (a.k.a. party loyalism) and petty tribalism. There are plenty of examples of the UK's behaviour on the international stage which I have and continue to find abhorent (Diego Garcia to name one), but the Falkland Island issue is not one of them. On the other hand, I see little to admire in Argentina's infantile diplomacy!
Good Day @'Think'
An experimental LED safety light outside of the number one fire station in Walvis Bay failed on Friday. This is conclusive evidence that the Falkland Islands actually belongs to Argentina.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monty69 what do you think?
76 anubeon
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great post for 'I don't Think'. Go, go go!!!
Thik,
Apr 07th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lt is really irrelevant, whether you consider the Falklanders as a “people” or not.
lt is none of your business & none of the world's business either for that matter.
lts classified in the same junk basket as your country's ridiculous “claims” over the Falklands & other British territory in the South Atlantic.
Actually, dear Thinkus, you are wrong.
A person who studies races & populations would find a unique mix in the Falklands probably not found elsewhere.
Most people have British blood but there are other nationalities mixed in as well.
lncluding those South Americans that the lying Argentines claim were expelled in 1833.
So yes, Think, the Falklanders ARE a people & no lying or posturing on Argentina's part will change this.
Even if this was not true, it still wouldn't matter.
These are OUR lslands & its got absolutely NOTHING to do with you, Think, or your silly country, what we do here.
Hope this clears it up for you.
While British universities are most probably superior to Uruguayan ones, it might be an idea for Falklanders to attend university in Montevideo or Punta del Este. I imagine the cost would be far less. My son has a Uruguayan degree and has been very successful working as an architect for a major British firm in the Middle East, with a number of promotions over European colleagues.
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( 79 )
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
..or your silly country,what we do here.
I say :
which country ? I am not from Argentina learned Spanish in
Institute Cervantes as well as I learned English in United States.
@TipsyThink (81)
Apr 07th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why the (transparent) sock puppet @Think?
I'm sure @Isolde understandably assumed (as did I) that you were Argentine from your absurdly pro-Argentine position. It's rather difficult to imagine someone taking such a position without some rather severe nationalist endoctrination. I'm curious, what is your nationality (if not Argentine) and how have you come to such a position. I can't see any merit in the Argentine position myself, beyong the overly simplistic 'proximity' arguement (which frankly beggars belief!).
75 Think
Apr 08th, 2012 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not an expert on dolphins. You want Grant Munro for that, and I am not he.
However, I'd say it was highly unlikely that Falklands oil exloration is to blame for this. I don't think I need to be an expert to venture that opinion.
Interesting that Argentina alocates 13.8% of its budget on education while the FIG puts 25% to this item.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good for the FIG, education is the most important item in a country's budget.
Maybe CFK should use the 13.8% for real education instead of giving away netbooks.
84 - Simon68 - Good point! Many Argentine parents make huge financial sacrifice to send their kids to private schools. It's not only due to the educational level and foreign language, it's also because of the disorganisation and behaviour problems at state schools.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@81 TipsyThink,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0l was addressing my comments to the one & only,
the devious, squirmy, hard answer evading,sneaky,underhanded,
squatter of the Andes, Swedish-Argentine Think.
Not you, unless you are him.♥
I'm a Viking-Argentinean, not a Sweeeeeeeeeedish chef !
Apr 08th, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTwq1_9VH68
( 71 )
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
Think by name is quite clearly ironic....
I say :
Radish Xect ....ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooo
I have so many log in names more than 20 (male..female)right now ... but my performance is weak for this forum,able to have used only 5 of them ,find which are......
Very easy to have much names here ...starting going to www.aol.mail.com com ( my all mails from aol )turn to here open an account easier than to open banking account..finally you find yourself login rich....to arrive fortune orgasm..
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( 82 )
You say:
Why the transparent sock puppet Think..
I say :
Unfortunately ..I am a puppet...can't say as a trade secret .
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( 86 )
You say :
devious,squirmy,sneaky,underhanded......
I say :
adding my personality well explains the underminer,looser,eccentric..
again I declare I am not from Argentina but I pretend as if an Argie.
don't ask me anythings from Argentina,I can't even know “A” of Argentina....in the same way from islands...
I have no idea for to tell any arguments just a random compiler from
internet pages,blogs ...my unique hobby is watching & x-raying youtube
videos...
(83) Monty96
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sooo………………
You ”Think” that it is highly unlikely that Falklands oil exloration is to blame for the massive Calderon dolphin stranding last year in Malvinas?
.May I ask you a question? ….
Where is that (in) famous ”Falklands Conservation Report”?
Are they still ”Working on it”?:
”A team from Falklands Conservation was scheduled to visit the island to gather information and make a report on the situation”
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/19/falklands-reports-grounding-of-a-pod-of-400-pilot-whales
Funny though......., the Yanks and Peruvians seem to be able to draw some pretty fast preliminary conclusions about the causes :
”BlueVoice.org stated that: Initial tests ... show evidence of acoustical impact from sonic blasts used in exploration for oil.“
”The ORCA Peru expert, veterinarian Carlos Yaipen Llanos, said that while ”we have no definitive evidence,“ he suspects acoustic testing created a ”marine bubble“ -- in essence a sonic blast that led to internal bleeding, loss of equilibrium and disorientation.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/19/falklands-reports-grounding-of-a-pod-of-400-pilot-whales
Maybe because they are not hiding anything?
Sooo.. You think it is The Malvinas stranding was more than a year ago…. Where is that (in) famous ”Falklands Conservation Report? Are they still ”working on it”?
”A team from Falklands Conservation was scheduled to visit the island to gather information and make a report on the situation”
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/19/falklands-reports-grounding-of-a-pod-of-400-pilot-whales
You would have to be in a state of serious denial if you don't immediately suspect exploration activity where you have mass a stranding of marine mammals in an area where there is, or recently has been, the sort of intense sonar activity and sonic pulsing associated with the seismic surveys that go hand-in-hand with oil exploration.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0If not seismic surveys, then you are probably looking at industrial fisheries or naval intercept sonar searching for submarines.
Either way, you would have to be incredibly naïve to believe that oil exploration and fisheries aren't having an adverse environmental impact; but that said, most of Argentina's objection on that front are seriously hypocritical and fork-tongued, because this has never been a consideration in any of their own fishing and exploration activity.
The difficulty with pilot whales is that they just will throw themselves onto beaches whether there is seismic surveying or not.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I said, I don't work in this field at all, but I do know that there have been mass strandings somewhere every other year since anyone can remember. That makes a causal link very difficult to prove.
I've seen two narrow misses as well, where the whales milled around for a few hours and then decided not to do it. Why? Who knows.
(90) Skåre
Apr 08th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That was only to show how E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G works in “Squeaky Clean” Malvinas.
We all know what a “Messi” place Argentina is, we are not denying it.
They are….
Where's this malvinas place you keep talking about, Think?
Apr 08th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ls it an island in a lake up in the Andes, where you are squatting?
This “where is this Malvinas place” line is getting a bi hackneyed. That is like me trying to tell a German that there is no such place as 'Deutschland' (or, as I would say, 'Tyskland') .. or a German telling me that there is no such place as 'Norge' ;)
Apr 08th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dead marine mammals.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take your pointless information somewhere else. The underlying issue of these threads is the Falklands sovereignty issue. What has the death of dolphins got to do with that? Oil is drilled throughout South America and if the Argentine Government got their hands on the Falkland Islands the exploration work now taking place would continue exactly as it is now.
What is the point of your posts except to distract and stir?
@87 Aaaah, at last. Viking-scumthug. And Vikings were.....?
Apr 08th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, on the subject of “British nationality” and self-determination in British Overseas Territories et al, could you give a definitive statement of the situation of the occupants of St Christopher (aka St Kitts) and Nevis?
Just so that we can see whether you can come up with a credible statement incorporating concepts such as “community”, “society”, “people” and so forth. I will give you a little bit of help. There is NO internationally-recognised and accepted definition of the term “a people”. You will immediately see and accept, if honest, that YOUR concept has a major, biased FLAW. Come on. Let's hear it!
(95) Joe Blogg
Apr 08th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dead marine mammals?
That’s not a very nice way to refer to the scent and body shape of the Kelperettes present in here….
I hope, for you own safety, that Joe Bloggs is not your real name and that you don’t live in Malvinas.
I can nearly visualize Isolde and Monty96 sharpening their frying pans….
Those ladies don’t fancy to be told what they can or can not talk about either..
They rule them Islands ruthlessly but unfair ;-)
Get used to it….
@94 You are perfectly entitled to express your opinion here but you are not a moderator on this forum.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To understand the use of the mythical term 'Malvinas Islands' is to understand the whole fairy story concocted by Juan Peron as part of his much-loved fascist model. Even he was surprised the nation swallowed the fabricated story whole and admitted that Argentina, in fact, had no claim to the islands. But he didn't want them, he used them as something to unite a disparate nation; that's all. You might consider now how significant the use of the name is.
No doubt, you will now want to pick another fight, as that is what you seem to be here for.
@98 ElaineB
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another rank hypocrite, eh? There are certainly a lot of you in here.
I am perfectly well aware of the history, thanks - and no amount of history changes the fact that “where is this Malvinas place” is getting very very hackneyed indeed.
No go swivel, lady.
(99) Skåre
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure we are not “Slægt”
How many syllabes before your “sen” ?
I don't have a 'sen' - just look for the 'å' and all is revealed ;)
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( 98 )
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say :
....Even he was surprised.......odds and ends.....
I say :
Which university ( branch please ! ) are you from ?
(101)
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
@99 What a charming display of good manners.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@104 ElaineB
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ditto, Elaine .. since apparently, according to you, daring to challenge rebarbative racist ranting of the worst order means that I am only here for a fight.
@105 See, trying to pick another fight. Jog on.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@106 ElaineB
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all .. you are the one flying off the handle and picking a fight and totally failing to recognise the fact that the smilie attached to the comment to lsolde meant that whatever was said was in jest / harmless teasing.
So like I said, go swivel and play with your racist chums whose posts you never seem to object to..
Whiskey Soda.....Whiskey Soda....
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Laughter.....Laughter .......RRTMBP
I don't have any racist 'chums', thank you. Now run along and pick a fight somewhere else.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@109 ElaineB
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*gives ElaineB the bowman's gesture*
(107) Skåre
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bitchslap ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BRw_ihZRJI
@111 Think
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hot from Sweden and just for you ;)
http://www.stfu.se/
Happy Easter to you all.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a really good laugh.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1463015-los-kelpers-cada-vez-mas-kirchneristas-y-argentinos
Did you learn /learn his real name ?
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the article “” We are prepared for a war with Chile........“”
A man who doesn't know how many “” pizza shops “” and its name in his insisted saying living town...
He wrote his real name there inadvertenly....and said “” adieu “” by sailing to french speaking countries....i'll track him...
How !!..it is geniusly ......isn't it ....
Laughter ............Laughter.............RRMKOP
113 Simon68
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a really good laugh..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg
@114 TipsyThink
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, do have a look. I guess the last laugh is on me, because you went very quiet when I proved you wrong :)
Laughter ............Laughter
( 116 )
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pepe !...please ..
What are you doing there around frozen Nato base...
Come home...daylight,girls,history,oil,coffee,palm trees...
Let's go back to the the underlying issue of these threads.......
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “opressive policestate” state of affaires in the Malvinas Islands....:
Dear Mrs. And Mr. Freeman, Puerto Estanley
Im glad to hear that Jim's life has been spared this time.
If the Royal Authorities should try to “destroy” him again, I will be more than delighted to offer him a safehouse in my humble Chubutian sh
Venceremos
El Think, Chubut, Argentina
117 TipsyThink
Apr 08th, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh we have more than enough oil, thanks and we sell all our lovely gas to our English friends in return for lots of juicy dollars to fund our $350 billion sovereign wealth fund. Why else do you think we are so desperate to stay outside the EU?
;)
| 119 |
Apr 08th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You live in Norway right now ????
You send a lot of oil to your English friends.,but your tax wedge on labour cost (36.8 % ) have more than English have ( 32.7 % ) !
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Acquisition of Norway citizenship in the years
2005 ... 12.700 persons
2006 ... 12.000
2007 ... 14.900
2008 ... 10.300
2009 ... 11.400
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These people came from ...(of total)
15.2%...from Somalia
11.1% ...from Iraq
7.5 % ... from Afghanistan
6.9 %... from Iran
5.4 % ...from Russia
54 %... from others..........
And just what did you all expect from Argentina, a repeat performance of course.......for your viewing pleasure:
Apr 08th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
The Falklands spends 25% of it's budget on education and Argentina spends 2.5% (two point five percent) on education, that is why they have those brains!
Think and others - before we blame oil explorers and sub hunting frigates for all dolphin etc mass deaths - can people explain why were similar mass beachings and stranding, happening 50-100-200 years BEFORE anyone started seismic surveys or antisubmarine “pinging”?
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I,d love to hear an explanation from the scientists on how and what the “acoustic damage” to the dolphins consists of and how they proove it!
Modern scientists- forever seeking Govt funding for something or another, can just never accept that sometimes things just happen in mother nature! They always have.
a lot of slagging of on here,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i will wait untill the next ones comes along .
TWIMC
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two interesting articles that substantiate my analysis of the Malvinas society.......:
At 16, the kids are send to Winchester to finalize their education….
The best students can continue to university, all paid by the state....
The Islands dilemma are the youngsters that do not return.
About 60% return says David Jenkins, Health and Education Director in Malvinas.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1462727-una-ciudad-casi-sin-adolescentes
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Graham is a cab driver, a 56 years old Kelper married to a Chilean employed at the West Store.
He has the formula for the solution of the problem.
”They can pay us to leave!” …...... he says in an outburst.
“The conflict was caused by interests, pure politics. I don’t believe in nobody”
If the president of Argentina offered us money, many of us would vote in favor of dialogue… or to try our luck somewhere else…. or for more flexibility from the United Kingdom.
Graham does his math’s…..
We are 3,000 inhabitants but those who vote and decide are just over half of that number…. It wouldn’t be so dire for Cristina to recover the Malvinas…………..
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1462727-una-ciudad-casi-sin-adolescentes
Interesting indeed…………..
PS: (122) Islander1
Old age, maybe?
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1462727-una-ciudad-casi-sin-adolescentes
Chuckle chucle®
They can pay us to leave
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one million x 3000 = three billion
plus one million for me, for the great suggestion.
But alas it may not be enough ?
.
Only one problem
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine Gov't DID offer us usd1,000,000 each to leave in the 90s. Nobody took up the offer.
(126)
Apr 08th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well............
Graham and his missus are having second thoughts, seems to be.
Wonder how many others are?
Probably very wise mate,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was probably counterfeit
…………………………………………
Anyway back to new news.
Im surprised mercopress has not jumped on this one,
The death of south American corned beef perhaps .
Corned beef perhaps todays sun newspaper
Page 37
Apparently a British firm is now producing corned beef, reputed to be better, , more supermarkets are buying it for their customers,
so guys, ask for British corned beef,
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
.
I doubt you'd be right but who knows. Maybe we can make it a supplementary question in the referendum.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Graham, and I know who he is, may take usd1,000,000 but I doubt that he would if the offer was real.
Clutch at some more straws.
Probably right,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But what they leave behind may be a bigger loss,
.
I wouldn't take any amount of money to leave in a deal that meant Argentina would gain possession, neither would any of my family or my friends.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could any other Falkland Islanders on here state their position also please?
(129) Joe Bloggs
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
Graham, and I know who he is,.........
I say:
O RLY?
You could identify a 56 years old male Kelper cab driver called Graham, married to a Chilean employee of the West Store who lives in the bustling metropolis of Puerto Estanley?
How cunning of you!
Well,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair think,
I would be interesting what Joe says,
Just how many out of the 3,000 [would] take the money and leg it,
How would this affect those that remained?
Interesting thought.
.
I doubt any of the Islanders would take the offer because Argentina do not pay up and are poorer than a church mouse. But more importantly, the Falkland Islanders are not for sale, at any price.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well................
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kelper Graham has just told us a different story.....
Maybe the fundamentalist Islanders should pull a “Bingham” on him?
Keep clutching at straws, causing distraction and stirring. It's so very boring but it seems to stimulate you.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be surprised if nobody answers my question. This site has finally been allowed to wash completely into the gutter. Mercopress needs to reconsider their approach. They may still be getting a lot of hits at present but I really can't see how that will continue.
@136 It is Easter Sunday but I am sure more people will check in tomorrow.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are a couple of attention seekers here at the moment stirring trouble for their own gratification but there are some good contributors too.
Will you “pull some strings” to make MercoPress “reconsider their approach” ohhh haughty Islander who has met all the senior members of the British Royal House?
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well from Mercopress point of view, they are probably more interested in revenue,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whereas the islanders are fighting for their livelihoods, future and their families, which of course is more important, is it not,
And like it has been said, a lot of people have died for this cause, and many more would,
And with the attitudes of the CFK government against innocent people,
Then perhaps the islanders will no doubt stay with what they know is safer,
And more democratic, then the alternative.
Just a thought.
.
We are not here to be bought Think, you can shove your counterfeit pesos, you know where. lnsulting microbe.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You lot must be getting desperate.
You can't win by war
You can't win by diplomacy
So now you're trying to buy us out.
We don't need your money anyway, soon we'll be rich beyond our wildest dreams. ha ha ha
@94 Skåre,
Wouldn't you get annoyed if some belligerent nation kept claiming Norge & kept calling your country by some other ridiculous name?
We have every right to refute their stupid games & its got nothing to do with you.
Then you get in a slanging match with ElaineB, who is also entitled to her opinion & in fact one of the more intelligent ones here.
Are you becoming a pendulum or are you Think in disguise.
l wouldn't put it past that sneaky article to create another personality then begin an arguement with he/she/it & “slowly” bring said creature around to a malvinista stance.
l was enjoying your posts when you first came on but now not so sure.
139 Briton
Apr 08th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their revenue will depend on hits and their hits won't stay healthy unless they start to uphold their rules and moderate this thing properly. They are fast losing any credibility they had as a media organisation.
Like you say: we have a lot on the line here. For the likes of our friend this is just a game of no consequence. Having said that, I am very confident that the UK (across all governments) has the issue in hand.
I agree with you,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes it is very frustrating when our government just seems to sit there and do nothing,
I have said many times before, if this was some others, it would have been dealt with,
But understanding British history, and knowing that the brits are all ways up to things behind the scenes, thus I understand that they are doing things,
It’s amazing what pressure can be brought to bear,
But the time will come [hopefully] that CFK will lose her allies, and friends, and fall by the way, and Argentina gets another chance to be democratic,
But alas if all else fails, then you are most certainly one the winning side,
Thank god.
.
(140) Cher Isolde
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Getting a little paranoid about Mr. Skåre......... aren't we?
I understand your frustration though........
Looking at your kids and knowing that, statistically, two of them will leave the nest “for good” at the tender age of 16..........
And that's in a “Status Quo” situation....
You better find oil girl... and pronto!
Having had some small tastes of FCO “methods” I have no concern that the UK seems to be sitting back and idly watching on. Like others have said before, the UK has been doing this for a long time.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you may well be right,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they would not be doing this, if they thought argentina had a pipe dream.
we tend to look ahead, and the union jack will be there for dacades .
Amen Briton
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0agreed
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all Cher Think, l'm certainly not frustrated in any sense of the word.
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been unmasked yet again?
l don't need any oil money as l am “comfortable”.
ln fact any oil money will all go to my kids.
Talking about education,
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Education on the motorways,
Something I can envy the islanders don’t suffer,
We spent over two hours on Friday on the world greatest car park,
Nearly two hours on the road working [m4]
And straight onto hell on the [m5]
A 6 hours journey, for a two hour trip,
We think these ministers need education on the bloody motorways on bank holidays,
Still, it was better on the return journey,
You guys don’t know what ya missing on our roads,
.
Stanley can get pretty bad at times Briton. Pick the wrong time to go up John St past the Infant and Junior School and you can get stuck behind as many as 5 or 6 cars. :)
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In all seriousness though, the M25 can also be a pain and it was terrible today to see the news of that poor family in the head-on on that bridge near Goole.
yes very sad .
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(148) Isolde
Apr 08th, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I had created “another personality” I would have created you, dahrling....
l know, dahling, l know.
Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viejo verdes find me irresistible.
Can't say l don't like the attention. :-))))))))))))
** 119
Apr 09th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0are you from Norway ?..spies/agents depot contry
obviously ,some dangerous place to live i remember a massacre from last year...its hero Behring Breivik has admitted the attacks but refused to plead ,deemed his actions neccesary to protect Norway from Muslim immigration and muticulturalism..court appointed psychiatrist declared Breivik is psychotic,some victim relatives say “” if they Think is Insane No Problem with us “”.......
@154 geo (#)
Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 09th, 2012 - 09:14 am
Not sure where you are going with this. A clearly insane individual commits an act of terrorism and this somehow invalidates the word of any of his fellow citizens on any other topic? Viveza criollo, Argentine logic strikes again.
@155 Furry-Fat-Feck (#)
Apr 09th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:35 pm
Not sure where you are going with this. A clearly insane Balkanian individual makes stupid comments about any thinkable topic and this somehow makes him Argentinean? Viveza Britanica, British logic strikes again.
I was unaware and disinterested in your nationality and it changes my point not one jot. Viveza Balkania if such a thing exists. Balkan logic strikes again.
Apr 09th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot stop laughing reading this page and the continued disagreement between these viewers. Please note, they are british and nordics and hardly can agree on the islanders education cost issue.
Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no issue. The Falklanders decide how to spend their own money and how to educate their kids, it has got nothing to do with you or me or anybody outside the islands.
Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@159 Furry-Fat-Feck (#)
Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are you saying the 157 comments posted on this page by the brits and nordics people are just for a quickie?
158 SussieUS
Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you have to realise is that only a small proportion of the posters on this page would be in any position to know the information about the FIG's budget allocation for education. Don't get the wrong idea- it is public information- but not many on here would have actually acquainted themselves with that information.
I am well aware of the FIG budgetary system and would be happen to answer any questions about the allocated figures or how the system works. There is nothing secretive about it.
@161 Joe Bloggs(#)
Apr 09th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let face it and accept the facts. The 157 comments contains insults between the brits and the nordic people, the same idiots that critized my country and the argentinian leader.
@160 SussieUS (#)
Apr 09th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:29 pm
In Essence Yes. I suppose it is.
Don't be too upset. Look at it this way. So long as bloggers like us are batting away at each other here and in so many words, soldiers aren't fighting and dying on a battlefield. Seems like a result to me. Isn't that what we want to avoid?
Joe Bloggs
Apr 10th, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0A late answer to your question - would anyone take the money and leave? I wouldn't and I don't know anyone who would. I don't even believe that Graham would. Now, as I know lots of people and you know lots of people I reckon we've got the whole of the Islands covered and can safely say that, just like last time, nobody would take money to leave.
No takee money, no leavee
Apr 10th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines can hope,
But nope.
Students from the Falkland Islands studying at UK universities will get a world class education. In so doing they will meet students from all over the world and all backgrounds. They will consequently have a broader understanding of the world different cultures and opinions. Contrast this to the insular narrow nationalism and prejudice they would experience if they were unfortunate enough to be studying in Argentina.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0162 SussieUS
Apr 10th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is this fucking retard?
Since when did Argentine females get named Sussie? And who the fuck are nordics people? What planet are you from Sussie planet zorb?
Your President is a fucking whore, her face is falling off, she speaks shit, she is a terrorist and her personal wealth has increased 900% while in office. She wears Rolex watches work $100,000 US and talks about the poor, who have got progressively poorer during her time in office. Everything she has done has been on the back of her husband, may the corrupt little shit rot in hell and may she join him soon.
One day Argentina will cross the line. I accually think you should invaded the Falklands because at the moment all you do is whine about it! You have 40 million mainly fanatical head cases, there are 3,500 peace loving Falkland Islanders. You people need to get a life.
If Argentina ever occupided the Falklands the matter would never be allowed to rest. It would be like East Timor, 30 years later you would be leaving.
The chances of Argentina successfully occupying the islands at the moment are slim. Personally I'd like to see some ICBM's converted into conventional missiles and aimed at all Argentine military bases. The moment Argentine is poised to attack and the bases packed we fire them all and eliminate the Argentine military.
Sussie has all the qualities of some kind of machine generated spam application. Is this all they've got?
@167 Anti-Fascist (#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You all are slow minded people!
The UK have the islands for 189 years and still cannot build a community college for the islanders?
SussieUS:
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would the Falkland Islanders want to build a community college, the Universities in the UK are some of the best in the world and it costs the Islanders nothing to send the students there!
@169 Simmo68 (#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then, why the UK don't build an university in the islands ?
@168 SussieUS In response to your previous post under the article 'Argentina blasts PM Cameron ‘profound error’ of glorifying colonialism'
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree petty insults are both immature and irrelevant, and do in anyway enforce or argue our point effectively. But you doing what you are doing is no better if not worse. You acknowledge that it is not the way, yet continue to do so. Hence this makes you appear even more at fault than them. Also many Argentines do exactly the same, so it is clear that some prejudice of your misguides you. So please refrain from your own insults, unless you can elevate the grade of wit that you present them with.
@171 Thorn94(#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will not forgive the brits insults made to my argentine president.
167 Antifacist (#) called her a “whore” stealing monies. This not true. Her profits comes from real estate selling and buying real estate land which in some locations in argentina have a high value.
The biggest sluts the UK sent to the US and Argentina were Diana and Ferggie . Ferggie tried to receive easy money of $700,000 for disclosing information about her husband.
The UK sent Diana to Argentina during the C.Menen presidency, for what?
Her husband rejected her! He could not share his life with such neurotic slut!.
Diana wanted more easy money and rubbed her ass with a muslim man to show to the UK other people have more monies than her huband.
Do you and 167 believe these sluts should be treated as ladies?
Face the facts and respond immediately!
@ wow, do you purposely try to appear this moronic or is it all by accident ? What in the world have they got to do with 167's comments. What about Argentine insults to Brits ? They are okay i presume. I dont condone either. I believe that i am facing facts, and that you have a clear resentment against British people, for reasons other than petty insults. Either that, or you are so simple-minded that you let these petty insults affect you in such a personal manner.you have a fair bit of growing up to do miss.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the record, are your English skills poor, or are you not really from the US ?
Diana and Ferggie
Apr 10th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0suseeeeeeeee
you need a strapadictamy fast.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,
if you dont like the insults then dont do it yourself,
diddy .
@173 THOR94(#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@174 Briton
You don't impress me with your english and your comments. You sound nothing more than an ordinary human being.
The “ladies” I mentioned are the morons.
They did not have any higher education other than some secondary years.
With their “well spoken english” they only learned to spread their legs for a living.
I am an argentine citizen and US citizen. I have dual nacionalities which is perfectly legal. You can verify this information in the internt.
The brits have insulted others former argentine presidents which is unacceptable.
Argentinians are tired of hearing british criticism about our goverment and insults.
Only cowards have such defensive tactis.
Argentina does not need anything from the brits. Argentina is a latin america country.
We owe to Spain, Italy and France.
These countries introduced the best cousine in Argentina.
What the brits have to offer except their imbecility?
174 briton
Apr 10th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really expect this Argie nincompoop of dual imbecility to understand strapadictamy? :o)
I think your reading skills leave alot to be desired as well. At what pount did i claim that i am anything other than an ordinary being, or that dual nationality was illegal. Only cowards invade an island with 1000 civilians, and 40 troops, with 10000 tropps. Only a coward would try to intimidate 3000 islanders. Only a coward would blockade them and make them feel, and deny them their human rights.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your government is cowedly my dear. What do argentines have to offer, apart from cowardness....and corn beef.We offer the islands their indepenedence, their way off life, Their freedom. As a US citizen you should well an truly understand that man has a right to his freedom.
Your insults are childish and lack any imagination. And only cowards use defensive tatics ? So yu admit that you are using aggressive taticts ? We wouldnt have had to be defensive if you hadnt got aggressive. No matter how much you whine my dear, you will not get the islands. I think it is you who should get off her back once in a while, and take a long look at the world your in.........
@176
Apr 10th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no i dont,
she slags others , then wonders why,
dont think she is worth the effort.
@176 ChristR(#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My husband and I understand that word.
@177 THOR 94
I have the freedom to say anything I want to say, like it or not. Get Lost!
@ 179 poor little SussieUS , when did i say you couldnt ?
Apr 10th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really must really get back on track with those reading lessons my dear. Your reading skills leave alot to be desired..... I dint say you couldnt say it, i just pointed out that your a moron, and need to better inform yourself. Your point ever so hit home with 'get lost' i see you an expert and debating.......
SussieUS sounds a lot like malen.
Apr 11th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0lf not the same, then both resentful vindictive creatures.
l don't think that Cristina is a whore, but she is a liar & a thief.
l couldn't care less if she thieves from Argentines.
lf they're silly enough to vote for her then they deserve all that they get.
l do care that she tells lies about us to the UN & anyone else who will listen.
She should be confronted with her lies.
172@ “The biggest sluts the UK sent to the US and Argentina were Diana and Ferggie . ”
Apr 11th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sarah Ferguson was actually an Argentine, her mother was married to Hector Barrantes the polo player.
LOL
@180 THOR94(#)
Apr 11th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I told you are nothing more than an ordinary human being.
@181 Isolde(#)
Is an anonymous website like the rest of the viewers.
@182 Simon86 (#)
Ferggie is the biggest britis slut. Even here is the US no one is interested to fucked her. Her mother the same.
@183 SussieUS (#)
Apr 11th, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 11th, 2012 - 03:49 pm
Fergie still alive is she? I thought she had disappeared up her own sizeable arsehole.
183 SussieUS
Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So who do you think is Fergies mother?
@183 SussieUS (#) and i know you told me that ? your point being ? im an ordinary human yes ? there is no dispute, so what ?
Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile over on Tracy’s island,
Apr 11th, 2012 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have decided that on all return trips, that thunderbirds one and two, will divert via, the Falklands, just to keep an eye out,
Apparently CFK has no dispute with the Tracy clan .lol.
And there superior military technologies .
.
@ 58 ....@ 60
Apr 11th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did write --11) ...kak jal you didn't know it ,it wasn't Serbian ,was Russian a phrase which used in southern Russia.but blagadaryu spasibo for your care.
@187 - she probably would have a problem with the Tracy clan if she thought it would distract the Argentine people from the current financial problems their country has. ;)
Apr 11th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha
Apr 11th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0probably right .
@183 SussieUS,
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you talking about, Madame?
l'm a person, not a website.
Pleased to meet you, Soozy.
I'm quite tired of this issue. Honestly I don't think Falklands should join Argentina though I admit it's pretty much strange for me an “Overseas Territory” these days. So strange as French Guyana. Strange or not it's Kelpers' wish to belong to Britain and this must be respected.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@192 Fred (#)
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the islanders wants to belong to the UK then you should advise them to start getting their daily needs from Chile or Uruguay. I don't want any islanders in my country.
You old bloody rubbish english people!
@193Soozy,
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats very nice of you.
Jealous?
Wish you were a Falklander so that you could benefit from the oil money soon to flow?
No slums here like Argentina or the US.
And we don't want you in our country either.
Looking forward to the Airlink to Capetown.
We don't need your poor broken country at all, you silly rubbish malvinista people.
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