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FT says UK trying to collect £ 45m Argentina used in the Falklands’ conflict

Monday, April 9th 2012 - 06:17 UTC
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According to a piece from the Financial Times Britain is chasing £45m of debt owed by the Argentine government that was lent to the military Junta in 1979 and used, in part, to buy weapons that were later used during the Falkland Islands in 1982. Read full article

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  • Martin Woodhead

    Tbf we did get a chinook off them and some g wagons although the myth was when we tried to get them refurbed mercerdes confiscated them as they handnt been paid either!
    Plus enough aa guns to outfit a new unit.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RedBaron

    This debt has been open for over 30 years while we continue to pay the RGs development aid of GBP 452m (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4154362/Britain-funds-450m-aid-to-Argentina.html).
    The usual reason for paying development aid is to improve the conditions of ordinary people and to educate the children (hopefully in a way that is kind towards the UK). Argentina does none of these things.
    Instead, the government cronies line their own pockets and the kids are taught a warped version of history about the Falklands.
    UK Aid to Argentina should stop now - Sign the e-petition: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4154362/Britain-funds-450m-aid-to-Argentina.html).

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    More than 11,000 personal weapons with more than 4,000,000 rounds
    15 anti-aircraft cannons
    14 flyable helecopters (mostly UH-1 Iroquois, but 1 chinook)
    13 artilliary pieces, with 11,000 rounds
    Blowpipe and SAM-7 anti-aircraft missiles
    10 Pucara ground attack planes (that were evaluated and found not to be any use)
    140 assorted Mercedes vehicles, some of which had actually been paid for
    12 armoured cars
    and a patrol boat (HMS Tiger Bay)

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @3 Rufus (#)

    That is an impressive list and I remember using some of the captured equipment myself for training purposes after the war. But what is the point df the list. I think I know what is coming but I want to hear it from you.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    @ 3 sounds like a listing of kit the RG brought here in 1982 and much of which was destroyed/shot up during the war - hardly a satisfactory recompense! But, the issue is not about recompense its about paying up with a smile while the price is still cheap!

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    A £45m debt from 1979, not including the interest? Predictibly the Argentineans will never pay and the UK government will only half-heartily pursue payment because they will try and avoid any conflict. The EU as well as the UK will continue to provide aid to Argentina. Meanwhile, YPF will be nationalized with Spain helpless to do anything significant to stop the thieves. Sometimes, “crime does pay…”

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    It is what was either confiscated or abandoned.
    I'm not sure of the exact legal status of military equipment at the end of a war, especially one that didn't have either a declaration of war or a corresponding peace treaty. Nonetheless, it is a quite substantial list of kit (although how much was actually in a usable condition or was actually worth using as more museum piecesor novelty paperweights), which would be worth quite a bit I'd have thought.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    I just don't think that invasion, war and war material was the agreed repayment method. Novel and unconventional I will grant you but certainly not agreed upon by either party when the loan was signed for.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I think, knowing what CFK and FatBoy do to there own people by robbing them blind the UK has two chances of getting the money back: none and zero.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    I agree. The UK has two hopes of ever seeing a penny of this money, no hope and Bob Hope. However I still think it is worth the trouble of exhaling the words because even when Argentina have no intention of honouring any agreement they have ever entered into in that timeless Viveza criollo fashion, at least it reminds them that they still have obligations all-the-same.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Oooooops

    Somehow, the last phrase from the original Financial Times Article was left out….

    Allow me to correct this totally unpremeditated, unintentional, unintended and unplanned mistake:

    “Mr Dearden said: “The newly uncovered documents show that the then foreign secretary David Owen knew the UK GOVERNMENT WAS LENDING MONEY FOR ARMS TO AN ABHORRENT REGIME””

    That’s it… Wasn’t so bad was it?

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d194ee1c-7d6f-11e1-bfa5-00144feab49a.html#axzz1rXkdf6X7

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    11 I don't Think

    And now we are trying to get it back from an abhorrent regime.

    It just so happens to be Argentina: NOTHING CHANGES DOES IT?

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    The same abhorrent regime the present Argentine Government is commemorating for invading a defenceless peaceful islands and terrorising the inhabitants.

    Pretty abhorrent thing to do in the 21st Century, all Argentines should hang their heads in shame and in the case of Think, self flagellate.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @11 Think (#)
    Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:05 pm

    Argentine logic at work again. It wasn't lent to the present government so Argentina are not liable.

    Simples.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (14) Furry-Fat-Feck

    You say:
    “Argentine logic at work again. It wasn't lent to the present government so Argentina are not liable”

    I say:
    If you cared to read the above article, you would find out that it is “B-R-I-T-I-S-H logic”.........:

    It is the Jubilee Debt Campaign saying that: “Lending the military Junta money to buy British weapons was illegitimate and odious. The Liberal Democrats must stick to their pledge to rule invalid loans recklessly given to dictators.”

    And the Jubilee Debt Campaign, including its director: Nick Dearden are B-R-I-T-I-S-H.

    Simples.............................. (What a Turnip)

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    The Sas pinched the gucci helicopters for their own use and even managed to persuade the goverment to buy them some new ones.
    I had one of the argentine rifles for awhile quite cool having a rifle you could use for exercise purposes without having to clean it and automatic fire was fun but pointless.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Who didn't read the article? The liberal democrat party has an official policy of debt cancellation and debt campaigners want to hold them to it. The government however has no plans to offer debt forgiveness.

    And if you want to read up on another liberal democrat pledge that was overridden by the coalition government see 'university tuition fees'.

    Your argument is moot.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #12 “I don't Think”

    I know, but you really should try to some time Chris =)

    Absurd but unsurprising really that they would lend money to an abhorrent right wing dictatorship and try 30 years later to take money from a peaceful leftist democracy.

    #13 Yeah thats why the junta's leaders are in jail and the commemorations soundly condemned the junta.

    #17 Thats one thing we agree on - LibDems are hopeless

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    2 RedBaron
    I have just Signed it .
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    We think the British government should re-examine all foreign aid,
    And cut the 12 billion to say zero, until they can provide evidence of where it is spent,

    And spend more on our own depleted defence .

    .

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9008

    Laughter......Laughter......BYSIN

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    18 - Its not our fault, we didnt support the military junta, i remember thousands or rg's not celebrating in the streets when they invaded the peaceful islands. Good point you are peaceful now, constantly threatening the islanders with economic blockade. Seems to be a constant that the RG's borrow and dont pay money back. It must be because your in such a strong economic position, defaulting imf loans, defaulting loans to US, lying about your inflation rate. Your so strong now economically that the IMF has closed down its offices in BA. Maybe HMS Dauntless can come and collect the cash you owe. But as you have said anything in the past isnt your fault, you and population are completely blameless for any actions. Keep burying your heads in the sand. Shame no invited heads of state came to support your reichmistress on the anniversary, they were all busy i think. Now let the islanders life in peace, as you said you are a peaceful nation.............. Simples

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Its only money,
    We have plenty,
    We give plenty
    We spend plenty
    We donate plenty
    We throw away plenty,

    And we receive nothing.
    So, nothing new there then ?
    .

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    18 British_Kirchnerist

    I do realise that your mind has difficulty dealing with reality and fact. You used the wrong tag ID. It was related to your mentor 'I don't Think', nor do you, but in your case the more accurate tag would be 'I can't think'.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    20 - Where as the RG Military is whiter than white, 30,000 murdered wow, trumps BAE oiling the wheels of what is a murky industry, makes a nice bit of cash for the UK you know.

    Main articles: Dirty War and Operation Condor
    During Argentina's Dirty War and Operation Condor, many alleged political dissidents were abducted or illegally detained and were smoked to life and kept in clandestine detention centres such as ESMA, where they were questioned, tortured and sometimes killed. Whenever the female captives were pregnant, their children were stolen away right after giving birth, while they themselves remained detained. Eventually, many of the captives were heavily drugged and taken on airplanes far out over the Atlantic Ocean, into which they were thrown alive, allegedly with heavy weights tied to their feet, so as to leave no trace of their death. Without any dead bodies, the government could easily deny any knowledge of their whereabouts and any accusations that they had been killed. People murdered in this way (and in others) are today referred to as “the disappeared” (los desaparecidos), and this is where the modern usage of the term derives. There is an activist group called “Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo”, formed by mothers of those victims of the dictatorship. Mathematician Boris Weisfeiler is thought to have disappeared near Colonia Dignidad, a German colony founded by anti-Communist Paul Schäfer in Chile, which was used as a detention center by the DINA, the secret police.[4]
    The phrase was recognized by Argentine de facto President, General Jorge Rafael Videla, who said in a press conference during the military government which he commanded in Argentina: ”They are neither dead nor alive, they are desaparecidos (missing)”. It is thought that in Argentina, between 1976 and 1983, up to 30,000 people (9,000 verified named cases, according to the official report by the CONADEP)[5] were subjected to forced disappearance.news stories...pasterooooney

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    ( 24 )

    Your comment-24 is actually wellknown story,but contains neither argument nor proof....

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @20 TipsyThink (#)
    Apr 09th, 2012 - 05:48 pm

    Not sure what you are trying to prove. That BAe are capable of underhandedness?

    I just had a 2 minute play with google and found this:

    http://www.nationinstitute.org/press/releases/1215/prophets_of_war/

    Then I had another quick play and found this:

    http://www.nationinstitute.org/press/releases/1215/prophets_of_war/

    It turns out that all sorts of underhanded ness goes on in the aerospace industry. I do not condone it but BAe is certainly not a unique perpetrator.

    I had another play and it seems that the Chinese are a bit underhanded at times too. Shock! Horror!

    http://www.nationinstitute.org/press/releases/1215/prophets_of_war/

    What is yor point?

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    ( 26 )

    ..the all military-industry complexs are very dirty and dangerous..

    Dwight Eisenhoover

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Bloody hell we agree about something. But you DID single out a British company didn't you?

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    ( 28 )

    Becouse ..this article focused on some British connections.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    Nations that don't repay their debt should be forced to repay debt in ceded territory, that way fewer nations would default and habitual debit defaulting nations like Argentina and Zimbabwe would cease to exist.

    A simple solution to Argentine debt problem and the Falklands dispute!

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    We have a new warship coming into the area, better pay up morons or we will flatten you. OOPS, I forgot you haven’t any money to pay us with have you, never mind we will just land and take what we won’t and seeing that you haven’t anything of value, we will just take your country. We will be quid’s in £45 million cheap at any price. Morons.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    31 Britishbulldog

    That post is about as pointless and damaging as some of the nonsense Think puts on here. You have every right to say what you think but what a load of nonsense.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @32 Joe Bloggs (#)
    Apr 09th, 2012 - 07:41 pm

    Agreed.

    Come on folks. Don't let the side down now.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Finally we see UK starting to show signs of willingness to negotiate but a few choppers and a few ships could never make up for the theft of land and fish from Islas marinas Argentina, they must be thinking they are dealing with indios.

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The chances are, that you will never get the money back,
    And the UK will still give Argentina aid,
    Perhaps one has to wonder why we trade with them in the first place, if they are so bad.

    But as the government says,
    We only want to be your friend.
    But just how far does friendship go,?
    .

    Apr 09th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Britain and Tony Blair loved to sell arms to dictators..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mru9Pllusr0

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Well the argie chinook is still flying with the the RAF after being rebuilt.
    Although its left door is still flying with bravo november .

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ozgood

    The comment (#11) about the UL selling arms to the abhorrent regime in Argentina shows up the hypocrisy of the Labour Government. At the same time David Owen condemned to South African regime and imposed sanctions against the republic.

    How many more sanctimonious acts of the Labour government that one might be able to learn about.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    25 -Apologies here we go

    Proof = 30000 missing people
    think they are called 'los desaparecidos'
    The fact you say this is well known - so what, the harbouring of ss nazi's after the war by RG's is well known and still gets a regular airing. The fact that RG's economy is broke, proof is your rampant inflation and defaulting on loans. So well done Rumpole , most of the RG Troll posts contain neither proof (facts, correct historical data) or a logical arguement.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #38 Yes I can see you prefer a Tory government which would show some logical consistency in backing South American death squad juntas AND apartheid. If, like my Queen, you ACTUALLY thought the junta abhorrent you would see the latter as at least just as bad...

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    We used the armoured cars for taeget practice as they were utterly useless on the
    Falkands.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    40 - Apparently the whole of Argentina didnt support this regime. The hundreds of thousands of citizens celebrating the Falklands Invasion in BA must of been a mirage (oops sorry war reference)
    Kirchers hubbie attended a celebration in BA after the invasion, probably meant as a protest against the brutal junta.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ozgood

    40 British_Kirchnerist

    Your governments have not always acted in the interests of the colonial people and Her Majesty's vaious governments have a lot to be ashamed of.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    37 Martin Woodhead (#)
    “Well the argie chinook is still flying with the the RAF after being rebuilt”

    Great job!

    “Ian Sadler, who lost his son Jack in the explosion, has been highly critical of the inadequate equipment provided to British troops.


    ”Everyone I have told about the helicopter being a cut and shut has responded with disbelief,“ said Mr Sadler, from Exmouth, Devon.


    ”It's penny pinching and an insult to the young men who are going to Afghanistan and risking and losing their lives.


    “It's disgusting the way they are treating these young soldiers.” The front of the twin engine helicopter is from an RAF Chinnook which crashed in the Oman in 1999 when its rear blades touched the ground, ripping one of the engines from the aircraft”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/5849377/RAF-helicopter-built-using-half-of-chinook-captured-in-Falklands.html

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    44 - Really good programme on a few days ago about chinook BN (falklands RAF Chinook) thats still flying. Boeing run a chinook refurbishment plant in US & UK. Its a huge production line old battle worn chinooks go in one end and 6 months later come out upgraded checked re-painted etc, battle damage is repaired. The chinook is modular in three large bits the rear section is one complete module. Anyway a badly battle damaged chinook came into this facility, we will have to buy a complete new rear section the engineer reported. Some bright spark came up with the idea of using the rear end of the RG chinook as suprisingly it was it good condition. I would reccomend you watch the show it was very impressive how they upgrade these machines. So no need to worry its quite normal to salvage parts and refit. The show was hosted by Mike Brewer of 'Wheeler Dealers' fame, i really enjoyed it.

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    If you don’t pay us our money back
    We will take you to a British court,
    And this will mean legal action against you,
    You could end up with a criminal record,
    A fifty pound fine,
    Or community service,,
    We are tough on crime, and the causes of crime,
    Says our Kenneth Clark
    You have been warned.

    .

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #43 I know! Have you seen my other contributions?! And the “my Queen” reference is to Reina Cristina, just to wind up the super-patriots on here

    Apr 10th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    47 - Really!! you little tinker, what a super wheeze...very clever. Your like a double agent. The name British fools the ultra patriotic british on the forum. When you really a RG Troll suporting a dictator superb...the Kircher Youth would be proud

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    You know I always suspected there was something up with BK. Yes the English itself is very good but I am afraid the sentence structure is all wrong and there are serious ommisions and basic misunderstandings. Holes in his/her knowledge base. He/she uses far too many generalisations that on even cursory inspection do not stack up or ring true. Not authentic, not native. It needs more work. He/she needs more time amongst British people to understand that too much of their discourse is all out of whack. If you did speak like this individual does in a social situation you be politely dismissed as a bit of an idiot with learning difficulties and a jaded and distorted world view, maybe a special needs case.

    It is easier to deceive for longer on an internet forum but he/she wouldn't last more than a few minutes in a face to face conversation.

    No. I do not believe BK is from the UK. Nice try but needs work.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Furry I speak entirely differently in social situations, sorry to dissapoint but I don't see you, Conqueror etc as my friends...

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    I thought you were British sob, you duped us all. Dam RG's and your clever ruse

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    51 cLOHO

    No, British Kirchnerist is a Scot, maybe living in England (he has not said) but with obvious signs of psychosis.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Well to be fair I did suggest he was either an Argentinian or a fruit loop.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    52 - A scot , so he is British then oh joy. Thought he was a RG troll pretending to be a nationality to slate uk eg. that pretend Australian on the forum. But agree showing signs as being as mad as a tree

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    A turn coat, is a turn coat, no matter where he /she was born .

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    och eye indeed tis true. Still doubt its the truth, plays nicely for a troll to be scottish, they can then rage against the colonial power that was england and the highland clearances etc. The scots guards did a stirling job in the falklands war on tumbledown.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Everybody is entitled to an opinion. There are plenty of Argentinians who think the FI should be left well alone or care not one jot either way. You won't find them on here because they usually have more pressing worries to be getting on with. Most of the rest of us are here because we have some interest in the issue. I am only here because I have a weakness for twisted fruit loops with a dotty world view. They entertain the bejesus out of me.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    im only hewre because CFK has a gun to my head,
    chuckle chuckle .

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @58 briton (#)

    Sorry bloke I didn't mean it to sound flippant. Of course I have an interest, I think FI is a worthy cause and the UK/FIG are right to stand firm against Argentine aggression but I won't get worked up about it. Malvinistas are not worth the effort.

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    59 Furry-Fat-Feck

    I agree with you.
    I was just making a sour joke that went haywire
    At least we both on the same side
    [the right side]
    thanks

    Apr 11th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Could someone please identify the role in which the Junta used a Type 42 Air Defence Destroyer and Anti-Submarine Lynx helicopter in suppressing the people of Argentina?

    Or was it just the usual waffle to cover up the fact that the Junta enjoyed rather widespread support by the people of Argentina. Or do we just forget that.

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #56 Actually I'm not the kind of Scottish nationalist who pretends we are an opressed country like Ireland under the British, I'm well aware of our own murky imperial past which is one of the reasons I don't support Scottish independence.

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    62 - fair enough
    Every country has murky past, as the US are finding out being top dog gets you involved on all sorts of spats and wars. British empire, Spanish, french to name but a few all have murky imperial pasts..it comes with the job.

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @British Kirchenist - if you really are British but love Argentina so much why don't you emigrate there? They're always in need of gullible nutters.

    And regarding Britons murky imperial past, at least it's better than Argentina's murky colonial past.

    Now Argentina, there's this little matter of the money you owe us... :-p

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #63 I agree all empires are bad, to put it mildly, wherever they are based, whatever language they speak. Thats why I think the world would be better off without them, ie I am an anti-imperialist. Are you?

    #64 I agree that Argentina has a murky past, though its almost exactly the same on the US had at exactly that time. As Malcolm X said theres no shame in having once been a criminal, only in continuing in crime. By that token Argentina and Latin America are doing betterthan the rest of the world right now

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    44 Marcos Alejandro

    You should take note..... an underfunded military, that didn't have the right equipment but we still managed to re-take the Falklands which the Pentagon said was impossible. that was 30 years ago.... if we did the impossible 30 years ago, imagine what we could do now.....

    Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    65 - I wouldnt say anyone in UK is imperialist as we are not trying to claim new territory, unlike the Reichmistress in RG land. Falklands plus South Georgia and outlying islands (which were never part of the spurious claim a few years ago) You must of read the history the 1833 eviction was of a trading venture that asked British Permission to set it up!!! Why as the British if it is ok to land and set up camp if they didnt administer the islands.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @67 cLOHO (#)
    Apr 13th, 2012 - 07:05 am

    You haven't read the Argentinian script have you? Didn't you know that the British version of events, as though the events of 1833 were even relevant, are all lies made up by pirates and squatters?

    It is always worth mentioning it if you have the time and the inclination because it might make some more thoughtful Argentinians question their own understanding of events surrounding the islands. In general though, the British version of events will make no impression on the viewpoint of a Malvinista at all.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    68 - I agree its the head in the sand mentality. Its so so simple the historical and legal facts all point to the falklanders claim. I am getting fed up making the same points as these bloggers are just trolls, prob in the pay of the Kircher Youth. Sad really. PS RG's we had two lovely Typhoons scramble and fly over where i live, lovely sonic boom what a plane :)

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @69.
    To qoute our American friends, “The sound of freedom.”

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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