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Montevideo, September 22nd 2023 - 05:00 UTC
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will be attending on Saturday the VI Americas summit to be held in Colombia, which is already involved in a strong controversy because of the non invitation to Cuba. Read full article
Repetitive, monotonous, Yawn
Yet another ramble in the making and hysteric CFK frothing over the Falklands. When will she learn, Arg lost the military war in 1982, and one which she instinctively supported, but perhaps not as openly as dear old Nestor, and her bellicose policy in recent times is loosing her the PR of today, save for those dimwits who fail to recognise the Falkland Islanders right of self determination.
I suspect that the worlds diplomats, and in particular then no doubt fatigued diplomats of South American countries, are probably sick to death with Argentina's incessant badgering vis. the Falkland Islands.
If Argentina isn't careful, they'll lose all of the shallow support they've garnered on the back of traditional latin american 'solidarity'.
It wouldn't surprise me if the Americas summit does release a 'weak' statement of support for the Argentine claim. Unless of course the American's (USA) force a neutral stance (I'm not sure how powerful they are in OAS).
Regardless, it'll be utterly meaningless. Diplomacy is about negotiation between interested parties. As long as the Argentines set the parameters of negotiation in such restrictive terms (as to not be negotiation at all; demand do not a negotiation make) and refuse to recognise the primacy of the most important interested parties (the Falkland Islanders themselves), negotiation will strictly remain off the table. Even with the entire UN general assembly backing negotiations. In essence, it's a myth that Britain refuses to negotiate on the Falkland Islands matter. It's Argentina, with it's rediculously restrictive constitution, which is making negotiation an impossibility. There are no UN general assembly resolutions (or C24 resolutions to my knowledge) that demand that the UK and FI governments attend a pointless slagging match where Argentina sits on the other side of the table shouting ¡Las Islas Malvinas son argentinas, devolverlos de inmediato o se nos hace exclamar! every ten minutes. Such would be tedious and counter-productive, I suspect. ;-)
Argentina should also expect us not to give a **** :)
Argentina should go away in short jerky movements.
They'll issue some wishy-washy statement inviting Britain and Argentina to negotiate an end to the dispute (for which read a sop to Argentine whining to shut them up) , which Argentina will then trumpet to anyone who'll listen as a great diplomatic victory for Christina.
In my crystal ball I also foresee suggestions to amend the constitution so she can serve a 3rd term....
#7 Certainly hope so, Argentina and the world need more than just another 3 and a half years of my Queen =) Let the people decide, what can be more democratic...
Justin, I think your prediction is probably correct.
Would be interesting to reveal how CKF and OAS leadership manipulate the Summit of the Americas to achieve an anti-Falklands, anti-UK resolution that all participating member-countries would sign.
Of 34 OAS members that will be present at Summit of the Americas, 13 are Commonwealth members and 3 others have largely non-Hispanic roots (Haiti, Suriname, Brazil, United States). Assuming that ALL the Hispanic-origin OAS members are on side with a strong Argentine motion, no doubt that Argentine and UNASUR folks have been busy in last several months negotiating with the wobblies in the group - Commonwealth and the non-Hispanics.
Just as likely that the UK Permanent Observer crew will have been doing same to shore-up resistance to the Argentine initiative. Wonder if any of the other European Union OAS permanent observers that have OCTs (Denmark, France Netherlands, Spain) will have been doing anything. The Summit Implementation Review Group followup would seek to bring an approved resolution to other forums (UN, Commonwealth, EU, etc) to actually show that there has been followup. Given that FCO aren't neophytes at the job, an OAS resolution won't be unanimous and it won't go anywhere important.
The best thing Argentine can do is shut the fuck up and stop whining, at the moment the country looks like it is led by some kind of deranged bunch of psychopaths obsessing on imaginary islands they've never had sovereignty over and encouraging people to hate, riot and attack British people.
It's a racist, fanatically nationalist bastard child of a fascist dog and a Communist cow, the end product is a President that looks something like Mugabe crossed with Aleister Crowley and a Donkey!
Argentina should go away in short jerky movements.
Whatever the statement, Argentina WILL trumpet it as a fantastic 'victory' for them.
Anything else will not work back home for the deluded masses (and British Kirchner).
Another attempt by Argentina and its non-dictatorship :) friends to isolate 3000 people just wanting to get on with their lives, such honour such bravery from a democratic (loosely termed) latin america, I wonder if argentinas decision to order new 60+ combat aircraft will be high on Americas summit agenda Militarization Of the South Americas
... she plans leaving Cartagena with another full support for Argentina’s claim over the Falklands/Malvinas...
If she doesn't get it, perhaps she won't come back.
There's always hope.
At the summit in all the countries involved will look at the Argentine delegates as they walk through the door and say for God’s sake not these Muppets again, can we not exclude them at the next summit like we have done to that other country called Cuba?
“Strong support” from the Presidents (or the Ambassadors for that matter) who didn’t turn up in Ushuaia, that would be a really meaningful gesture.
CFK & Co have to get something here however small, everything else has gone nowhere.
So far it does appear they are doing a better job of isolating themselves, than the Islanders.
Nestor knew that the Malvinas was a trump card to use in the event of any political crisis ..... after the default he knew that there would be 8 to 12 years of recovery with many bumps in the road.
It's a no lose situation in Argentina to play this nationalistic card to divert attention from the many problems the country is facing at the moment, high inflation, currency controls, import restrictions, corruption at the highest level (Boudou), internal fighting with the CGT (Moyano).
CFK is picking too many battles & at this rate is unlikely to survive her current term, her only option is to continually play the trump card hoping that today's political correctness will somehow force the minority British government to at some point give in to her demands & hence cement her legacy in Argentinian politics (aka Evita)
The Brits would do well just to ignore the current rhetoric & let it fizzle out just like the current government is starting to fizzle out way ahead of it's current mandate, but there again ........ que se yo ???
@7 Thought they'd already started talking about amending the constitution. Despite CFK saying she couldn't see standing for a third term. Can't see CFK departing until she has got her personal wealth up to at least $25 million.
@8 Your Queen needs to be spread all across the world. In pieces. Very small pieces.
@12 Well spotted! That's argieland. Kinky and queer.
@18 The Brits (us) will do what we always do. What is necessary but no more. Thus, Britain doesn't base 2 squadrons of combat aircraft on the Falklands, it has just 4 aircraft. It doesn't base a division of ground troops there, just a company. It doesn't send a fleet, it sends one warship. Why would we need to do more? For now.
Let the people decide, what can be more democratic...
That’s a bit two faced is it not?
The Falkland islanders did vote, and decided,
But argentine government criminals refuse to accept it,
CFK should be ashamed of herself, a leader in the 21st century,
Using ‘political opportunism’ in Falklands sovereignty-claim campaign,
Argentina have to be truly crazy if they think they will get a message of solidarity from this conference. You have to wonder if Kirchner has employed only the most clueless of the nation's political class.
Canada has their flag nailed already. I doubt they will defect to Argentina from the mother country, for whom their leader has a great affinity. If I remember correctly, Antigua & Barbuda as well as Dominica said no to this before, and all you'll get from O-Loser is some vague statement of neutrality and a wish for peace. I'd also be interested to see where Honduras falls, as they recently ousted their Chavez-approved dictator, Zelaya.
Also, don't forget Cuba has been excluded, which in turn has made Ecuador cry and withdraw. If Argentina is expecting an outcome of American solidarity, they need to think again
The 6th Summit of the Americas will not include in its final statement the subject of the Falkland Islands, whose sovereignty is claimed by Argentina to the United Kingdom.
This was expressed in statements to Prensa Latina by the Colombian Foreign Minister Maria Angela Holguin, who said there was a lack of consensus on a statement on the matter.
However, the foreign minister said that the issue will be addressed in the discussions, as well as the issue related to the fight against drugs, although they will not be mentioned in the final document.
In the first case, Holguin said that this is a bilateral issue between Argentina and the United Kingdom and called for a dialogue between the parties, while the war against drugs is a matter of concern to all.
Don't you know what that saying means, Cher Think?
And just what did you all expect from Argentina, a repeat performance of course.......for your viewing pleasure:
Gracias Cristina y Nestor.......oh and thanks too Boudou!!
#24 Will you stop trolling, nobody believes the rubbish you post about my Queen, even the haters propably just pretend to believe it, its so obviously trash
You need to calm down dear, you know what I have advised you about your mental health. :o)
she is not your queen,
she is the argentine president,
@25 - I believe your queen is a very slutty woman! haha
#28 Well you can fantasize if you like sicko...
I believe that the best Argentina is going to get from the South America countries is a suggestion that Argentina and the UK have negotiations. Nada mas.
And the out come will be the same
No negotiations without the islanders say so .
Nothing to talk about.
l suppose we could tell them just how much money we're banking.
Just to annoy them! ha ha
@29- ALL HAIL QUEEN TURKEY NECK!
@32 - Did you write ALL HAIL QUEEN TURKEY NECK! or TO HELL WITH QUEEN TURKEY NECK?
I hear you. I know I shouldn't enjoy this, watching KFC or whatever she's called, work herself into a state of high blood pressure over this, but I do. I'm on the verge of placing bets as to when she will collapse of a heart attack as she carries on with all of her nonsense.
lf she died of a heart attack after working herself up over the Falklands, you could bet your bottom dollar that the Argentines would say that it was our fault!
#33&34 Or howabout Hail Hail as they say in Glasgow =)
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