MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Spain warns Argentina that any hostile action “will bring consequences”
Amidst the cross-fire between the Argentine government and Repsol-YPF oil giant, Spain’s Industry, Energy and Tourism Minister José Manuel Soria, warned on Thursday that “any sign of hostility” against Spanish companies “will be considered as a hostile sign against Spain and its government, and will bring consequences.” Read full article
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Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0STUFF IT.
Signed,
Argentina
CFK will steal everything she can before this is over. Its time for a coup in Argentina
Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aww nevermind, you'll always have Chavez...erm unless he snuffs it.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmnnn,..I suspect your hit-list will grow longer.
The Spaniards are half-right but only up to a point. Theyre right in that theyve been the only scapegoats, one of three major Oil producing companies operating in Argentina, one wonders why a full-fledge attack is launched only on Spanish Repsol but not on the other big players on the game. Theyre wrong in that they must somewhat pay for not having done something they were supposed to do as agreed on in contracts with the Argentine state, namely exploring drilling and investing to keep up the declining production.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I wonder what happened with the Contracts that Panamerican-BP got renewed all the way up to 2047 according to an article published in Le Monde Diplomatique in 2010, where with an eyeblink from the Fed govt, the provincial govts of Chubut and Santa Cruz went ahead with renewing the said contract. Am I missing sth here? or I happen to smell sth fishy...? How about Techpetrol? are they investing in El Tordillo, an oil field in Chubut? And what has happened with the off-shore plattforms investments that Brazil Petrobras could have risked exploring?? So many whys, so many questions... I just wonder who has been so irresponsible so as to let the years go by since 2000 and no one has showed the balls to press these companies before. Isnt it too late?
Of course I agree with current govts worries and actions toward the issue, but unfortunately it is rather too late. Hope not.
I always believed Argentina has the potential to be a much more powerful country than it is, but our leaders are may not be up to the call. May God help us get thru this oil crisis and get a better country.
I think every country has “” self determination “” rights on its own oil reserves. !
Apr 12th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 - Argentina,
Apr 12th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop whining like a spoilt teenager, pay back your debts, stop robbing people, then STFU.
Signed,
The Rest of the World.
Not if they sold those rights Think, which quite clearly they have done.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At poster 5, I understand where you are coming from expect the point about re-investment. YPF have met the previously defined criteria however as usual CFK and her team of corrupt officials have reneged on the deal and are demanding something ridiculous now.
Nations that have friendly diplomatic relations with Argentina: Venezuela, Cuba and Iran.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nations that do not have friendly diplomatic relations with Argentina: er , just about everyone else.
CFK and her cronies are leading Argentina into the abyss.
(5) Gotey
Apr 12th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamen.
Argentina, well ok, not friends of the UK (but hey we've done our best) but now soiling relations with the mothership! Deary me, trouble with the neighbours and trouble with your parents, well who's left? Clearly only the enemies of your parents and neighbours... Iran, North Korea... not a nice bunch.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very interesting developments. I'm sure one of our resident trolls will correct me if I'm wrong but I can't recall an event in recent history where the UK (motherland) has spoken out with such a warning to one of its grown up former British colonies. Australia, New Zealand, etc. I'm not talking about little squabbles with the likes of one of her Caribbean developing OTs but a real tongue lashing to another proper country. Serious stuff.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also interesting that Pokey has no faith in his leaders and Think agrees. It wasn't long ago when everyone on the pro-Argentine/ Malvinas side had nothing but praise for their president.
Do I detect a few slight tremors?
Ha,, Espanola awakens,
Apr 12th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The JAFFA arrives, full of juice.
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5. I guess you will see the outcome of who is right or wrong in the ICSID. I will be my last U$ that Argentina will be found in the wrong and Repsol will be awarded a judgement. By that time CFK will either be dead or living in Miami with her stolen Billions and BA will be like Caracas maybe La Paz.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Whilst the Queen of Argentina and her chum Tinman have the World's “support” over the Argenine colonial aspirations over the Falklands she seems to have forgotten that she has a country to run. What a great way to repay all those countries. But then again her only true friends are the piriahs of the World such as Chaveztan, Iran and North Korea.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oooooops
Apr 12th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was quick!
http://www.ieco.clarin.com/economia/Gobierno-Congreso-proyecto-control-YPF_0_680932126.html
What was ”Think ” saying yesterday?.......:
”7 Think Apr 11th, 2012
Chuckle chuckle®
This “little MercoPress story” about the Chinese and YPF is just for the Turnips.
And an effective one!
I can see that it has attracted some of the Mayor…………………..….Turnips.
Let’s say, without disclosing too much, that YPF is in its way to become a National Oil Company, controlled by national, provincial and private capital to be develop following the the Petrobras / Statoil model….
And it will happen rather quickly…………”
Welsh Wizard & GeoffWard…..:
”Hate To Say I Told You So”
http://www.ieco.clarin.com/economia/Gobierno-Congreso-proyecto-control-YPF_0_680932126.html
ElaineB & Yankeeboy (aka Fredbdc)
Who’s your Daddy?
http://www.ieco.clarin.com/economia/Gobierno-Congreso-proyecto-control-YPF_0_680932126.html
Think even for you that seems to be a odd thing to brag about.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it goes ahead Argentina is in effect committing an act that would be illegal in most countries.
We Argentine's consider Spain another rogue failed state and we invite you to take your threats and shove it up your lower backend, we also have the International rights of self determination if that is enough for 3000 white people I am sure it's good enough for 40.000.000 criollos.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah pirate my favorite troll!
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are confused this has zero to do with self determination.
However if Argentina goes through with this then it faces complete international isolation and for those crying over the Falkland's it means zero support not that notional support counts for anything anyway.
All we can say is-
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have to be a failed state, to recognise one, do you not,
Poor Spain, think of all the nice things she gave you .., .
Is there 1 company or organization left in Argentina with a large U$ deposit on-hand? YPFs cash balance will quickly be replace with Arg$ and Arg bonds and in effect bankrupted like every other company they have looted.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The RGs trumpeting this are sad and crazy! Why do they want to be like Venezuela? It is beyond me how stupid and short sighted they can be.
#16 Think
Apr 12th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out of curiosity what oil field support services exist within Argentina?
Even if you have people to operate the wells etc, do you have an indigenous support industry that can produce and maintain the specialist oil tools required?
Nationalisation is all well and good, but when you rely upon the support infrastructure of the countries and the companies you've displaced I rather suspect your production will grind to a halt.
Argentina's current approach to international trade relations is going to cripple your ability to obtain specialist machine parts, tooling and support.
Stop whining like a spoilt teenager, pay back your debts, stop robbing people, then STFU.
Apr 12th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Signed,
The Rest of the World.
AHAHAHHAHAHAH
Just go to HELL!
Signed
Argentina!
@23 - So much for THE WHOLE WORLD supporting you! Haha. Maybe Spain should just seize Argentina back and turn KFC into the king's lawn mower! haha
Apr 12th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Apr 12th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And how do you know what a failed state is? How did you come up with “Spain” as the recognized failed state, recognized as such by another failed state, if you are not from a failed state, thus unable to recognize this? You shoudn't be aware of this at all.
Oops.
Petrobras (Brazilian oil corporation) recently lost its right to explore oil in a certain field in Argentina. In that case maybe Argentina was right because it seems like Petrobras was not using its rights.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Though in this case maybe what Argentina is trying to do is recovering YPF which certainly could help local economy. By doing that obviously Spain will not “be happy”. Argentina should try anyway. What will Spain do...
I guess w´re are gonna see an increase in the already high numbers of argentines sent back from Barajas. The spaniards will fight back.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 027 I guess we´re are gonna see an increase in the already high numbers of Spaniards leaving from Barajas.(Unemployment exceeds 23 percent)
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yesterday YPF came up with a plan to increase its investments for I don't know how many billions for the next few years.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting how they didn't think of that before.
Meanwhile, banks in the USA are not giving away loans for future home-owners who cannot afford them thanks to government regulation.
So whats the fuss about? The government will buy the shares of YPF if need be. If the stocks have plummeted they have themselves only to blame for underinvesting.
Ridiculous statement yet again Troneas.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0YPF complied with what was required of it and yet again Argentina reneged on the deal and started withdrawing license.
As for US home owners, completely irrelevant.
The only person to blame here is the Argentine government for spectacular mismanagement of its own economy and then its desperate attempts to force other companies into re-investing all of their profits into redevelopment.
I'm truly astonished you are blaming YPF for the Argentine government and it causing a run on YPF's shares, disgraceful behavour from the Argentine government once more.
Do you ever wonder why foreign investment is drastically reducing and companies are trying to take money out of Argentina?
16 Think
Apr 13th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fair play, although I’m not sure the story was completely turnip shaped considering China has been buying into companies/states so that they can dominate and control world oil resources for the next X many years.
If YPF isn't completely nationalised and it becomes a public private venture, will the upper hand be on the other foot?
25 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And how do you know what a failed state is? How did you come up with “Spain” as the recognized failed state,.
Oops.
[boy oh boy, if only we was all as clever as you]
But on this occasion, you are wrong,[read the post, and the one above,
One of your compatriots,
[Briton said=You have to be a failed state, to recognise one
He did not mention, Spain was a failed state, [that] was on the next bit,
But but wait for it=
18 Pirat-Hunter (#) Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:11
We Argentine's consider Spain another rogue failed state ,,
[he said it]] you guys really must get ya stories straight .
next
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@23 - So much for THE WHOLE WORLD supporting you! Haha. Maybe Spain should just seize Argentina back and turn KFC into the king's lawn mower! haha
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHahah,stefan: We do not need the world,not you not uk!
YPF complied with what was required of it and yet again Argentina reneged on the deal and started withdrawing license.
No they did not.
In the first place was a mistake,done mainly by menem and the kirchners,to sale that company....
@18 “enough for 40.000.000 criollos.” Do you mean 40+ million sub-animals? Such as cockroaches, lice, rats, slugs, weevils and other vermin?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Do let us know what it's like! Not that we care. I think an argie hell should be like a burning tar pit. so they can watch their feet, their legs, their genitals, MELT. And do let us hear them scream!
@25 You've forgotten the most obvious. GOD is omnipresent and omniscient. And GOD is ENGLISH! Note that please. GOD is not scottish or welsh or irish or british, HE is ENGLISH. And, being ENGLISH, he “pisses” on people who aren't. Lots of GODpiss in scotland, wales and ireland. Even more GODpiss in places like asia and south america. Not so much GODpiss in North America or GOD's own land, ENGLAND. Some GODpiss is good. England, some parts of North America, New Zealand. No GODpiss or excessive GODpiss is bad. Australia, S. America, Asia. Antarctica, one of the largest deposits of GODpiss, will eventually make this clear as it splits apart and the argies fall, screaming, into the abyss. I do so hope I can watch!
@33 And here we have it, people! Argie illiteracy, incomprehension, “historical” rewriting, lies, criminality, malfeasance, manipulation, mendacity and ignorance. Time for THE WORLD to show argieland that, despite its aspirations to being a drain or gutter, it remains a CESSPIT! A large-scale SEWAGE pit.
The title should just have been, 'no-balls country makes empty threats at morally vacuous country leading to absolutely nothing'
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People here like to talk a lot of BS about Argentina but all of them want to be a part of Argentina from the brits illegal aliens occupying Islas Malvinas Argentina's to the Spanish trying to keep our petroleum industry, I have a message from my ansesters go home to Europe and stay there or else.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.treehugger.com/green-food/egg-shortages-uk-due-end-battery-eggs.html
ha ha, if they stayed at home,, you would be in Europe now, would you not,
Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don’t want Argentina, no one wants Argentina,
as a matter of fact, even CFK , her government and all her loyal indoctrinated immortals don’t want Argentina, all you all want, is something you have never had, and will never have,, the British Falklands,
So why don’t you lot [20 at the most ]]
Go on an eternal expedition to find these mysterious Malvinas, and leave the rest of us to live in peace..
36 Pirat-Hunter
Apr 13th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain how it is tha the people of the Falkland Islands want to be part of Argentina. I'm a Falkland Islander and I don't want to be part of Argentina. My wife and kids are also Falkland Islanders and they don't want to be part of Argentina either. We visit Argentina on holidays or business from time to time and we sometimes buy the odd Argentine product. We also do that in/with over 25 other countries- at a quick count- but we don't want to be part of those countries either.
Please explain sensibly and honestly how it is that you think we want to be part of Argentina. If your answer involves our geographical location please then go on to explain why Argentines wish to be part of Chile.
Let UK explain to you why, Go home, last time I checked illegal alien in Islas Malvinas Argentina claim to be british, enough said? Call the governor general he will explain.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 016 Think
Apr 14th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I just watched that Finnish group in Sweeden that you posted, OMG I can't sleep now :-)))
39 Pirat Hunter
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't think you'd like that question or indeed be able to answer it.
I don't need anyone to answer it for me because I know the answer. I wanted to hear your screwed up explanation; that's all. The UK has explained it to me very well.
By the way: we don't have a governor general.
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