The Argentine Catholic church expressed concern over the “important level of corruption” in the country and warned about the disturbing inequality and extended poverty. Read full article
So, let me get this straight... one half of the ratlines that spirited war criminals and their jew-gold out of Nazi Germany using fraudulent papers provided by the vatican, says the ruling Argnazis are corrupt?
This is a clear case of hypocrisy and making your bed and then lying in it.
I'm glad I don't have one of these morally-vacuous altar-boy chasing furkwits mediating between myself and the big G-man.
The Latino elites are the scum of the earth that screw over their own people and pay for it at confession by dropping stolen money on the silver platter. Wanna meet some ? Go to a tittee bar in Miami.
I thought the Vatican was busy raping young children, you mean on top of molesting children they have time to point at Argentina, something like this happened before, and they went out and burned thousands of witches or women because clearly witches didn't exist, then again the Vatican never said a word about slaves or the illegal occupation of land by nuclear armed governments. Maybe it's time the church went back to europe, we never really got any help from the vatican, in latinamerica all the Vatican ever did was gather our native for Europeans to murder them, and now the Vatican is coming for the rest of us.
Corruption and poverty in Argentina eh. No wonder the Falkland Islanders want nothing to do with this tin-pot country and its current disastrous political regime.
The people in Argentina who voted for CFK should hang their heads in shame.
The big-V are clearly a bit short of cash and want to sell the corrupt people some indulgences? What's the going rate for a blair-style indulgence to get you through the pearly gates these days... $10'000'000 per sin?
Because Jesus and I aren't catholics, so we're not able to be genuinely sh!t people and buy our way into heaven, instead we have to be righteous, forgiving and not burn people for pretty much no reason.
@4 Prove I'm wrong! Argieland is NOW the HOMOSEXUAL capital of the WORLD! In a few years, you will have to be HOMO to be argie. Leading, thank god, to argie extinction. YOU have a problem with the truth, ARGIE, BUTT-OPEN and WELCOMING tosser. Sorry for tosser. Beyond YOUR ability.
@5 How good! The entire so-called argie population to be burned at the stake. Cremations are out-of-date. Roman candles! If it's not burning, it's not an argie!
Well, I'm not catholic (for reasons here mentioned in uncouth form, mainly the sheer corruption of the church), but I'm certainly not protestant, which is nothing more than a bunch of personality cults. If you notice, all crazy end of days yahoos are protestant, all religious christian sects which have ended in mass suicide or some sort of self-destructive act are protestant, all wildly zealous fanatics going apoplectic and into self-induced seizures on television are protestant, all pedophile oriented christian sects forcing girls to marry as prepubescents are protestant, many others are nothing but fronts for corrupt swinders taking the ignorant's money. These last two areshared with the Catholic church (they do it with boys, admittedly).
In short, protestantism is a trully disturbing phenomenon. That doesn't mean I'm going to bash protestant followers, just as I won't bash catholics, but I will point out the ignoble acts the churches themselves commit. What I do find funny is protestants bash catholics in some perceived sense of higher piety.
When I enumerate the realities of protestantism as I have above, most can't answer, they never had actually sat down and realized how all of that is true, and how it is always a protestant church involved in trully crazy, bizarre, and outright chilling behavior. Too much of a cult personality, the hamartia of Protestantism, since by it's nature anyone can say I'm the right way, and others will follow blindly, many times to the precipice and beyond.
All: I sincerely apologize for my insensitive comments about women of southern Italian heritage that reside in Argentina. There are many beautiful Italianas that live on both sides of the Andes. I was very wrong to post the comments.
How nice for your Think, its a shame that is completely irrelevant except to a homophobe like yourself. Shame on you.
I find this speech slightly odd in that I cannot understand why he'd choose now to speak up, although I'm clearly not aware of the levels of poverty in Argentina except in number.
13 Apr 2012
Christians are being “persecuted” by courts and “driven underground” in the same way that homosexuals once were, with worshippers treated as “bigots” simply for expressing their beliefs. Lord Carey warns
@14 First thing, no one asked for your opinion. Second thing, given that one of the main characteristics of Argentinians is their being well known for their love of unacceptably young girls, basically at an age of interest to garry glitter, it puts you in a particularly bizarre position judging religious cult leaders for their equally unhealthy practices.
I don't think anyone here is being anti-homosexual. But, the curiousity of catholic church policy being so overtly anti-homosexual, when the catholic seminaries are simply overloaded with guys-who-love-guys, often going out to leather-nights at the local gay bars, makes it simply a laughable sack of hypocrisy. I met a nice chap on my travels who had to leave the catholic seminary because he felt he was forced out by not being included into their gay clique.
@19 To be a christian is to be persecuted. Being crucified upside down, burned alive, that's all a fundamental part of the process. Lord Carey should know that hanging around in a palace wearing opulent purple dresses surrounded by icons isn't.
Who can manufacture all the lies you want, they are still lies no matter how prolific they become. If there is one ill Argentina does not suffer from, it is pedophilia. The UK on the other hand, is notorious for it (alongside the USA).
Second, I'm not here to defend the Catholic church. Chop it away, they deserve it too.
The Argentine Catholic church spouts their mouths on a daily basis about internal argentine affairs. Perhaps if you foreigners would understand that not all countries have the same conventions as your own, you would understand. The fact that they spoke does not mean the situation is worse in any way or critical, it is completely perfunctory.
For example, in Argentina athletes and most artists NEVER become overly active or vociferous in political activism. That's changed slightly recently mainly with a few actors, but it is nowhere near the levels as in most of your countries. I would not state however that the social situation in your countries is dire just because actors and athletes there get political, which from where I come from would suggest an extreme situation.
It is disgusting the way this man relates poverty to corruption. Corruption is not the main cause for poverty in Argentina. Even if we had corruption %0 there would still be poor people, because this poverty is structural, the system maintains it, the system that conservative sectors of society try to support, the system that this government has been changing in the last years.
And if he knows any case of corruption then he must say names, he should be responsible for what he says.
The church has a long history hitting and hitting Argentine Governments, no matter what political sign they are. It seems they are not ok with democracy and with a republican system.
@22 - Tobias, Paedophiles are a world wide problem, and if you truly believe that there are no paedophiles in Argentina, then Argentina is in big trouble. I honestly wish it were true, but they are there hiding underneath the radar, committing their dispicable crimes.
Many cases of child abuse (especially those of a sexual nature) have been brushed under the rug for far too long, as being seen as shameful for the child and family etc...
In recent years, people who were abused as children, have been coming forwards. Indeed, the general public are now more aware of these evil pariahs that prey on our children and are more likely to report them to the authorities.
Back to the article. Although I'm not the biggest fan of the Argentine government and it's actions, the Catholic church is hypocritical in its views. It's a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Religion of any kind should keep their noses out of politics.
@GreekYoghurt: Argnazis??? Nazis were a European problem, have you got any idea of all the jewish people that escaped from Europe and came to live to Argentina during the World Wars???
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo, let me get this straight... one half of the ratlines that spirited war criminals and their jew-gold out of Nazi Germany using fraudulent papers provided by the vatican, says the ruling Argnazis are corrupt?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a clear case of hypocrisy and making your bed and then lying in it.
I'm glad I don't have one of these morally-vacuous altar-boy chasing furkwits mediating between myself and the big G-man.
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Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Latino elites are the scum of the earth that screw over their own people and pay for it at confession by dropping stolen money on the silver platter. Wanna meet some ? Go to a tittee bar in Miami.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conqueror, Good and bad, the discussion of religion is acceptable, but not in the manner you post. You owe the readership an apology.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought the Vatican was busy raping young children, you mean on top of molesting children they have time to point at Argentina, something like this happened before, and they went out and burned thousands of witches or women because clearly witches didn't exist, then again the Vatican never said a word about slaves or the illegal occupation of land by nuclear armed governments. Maybe it's time the church went back to europe, we never really got any help from the vatican, in latinamerica all the Vatican ever did was gather our native for Europeans to murder them, and now the Vatican is coming for the rest of us.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corruption and poverty in Argentina eh. No wonder the Falkland Islanders want nothing to do with this tin-pot country and its current disastrous political regime.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people in Argentina who voted for CFK should hang their heads in shame.
The big-V are clearly a bit short of cash and want to sell the corrupt people some indulgences? What's the going rate for a blair-style indulgence to get you through the pearly gates these days... $10'000'000 per sin?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because Jesus and I aren't catholics, so we're not able to be genuinely sh!t people and buy our way into heaven, instead we have to be righteous, forgiving and not burn people for pretty much no reason.
Argentine and Catholic - what a heavy burden to bear.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Prove I'm wrong! Argieland is NOW the HOMOSEXUAL capital of the WORLD! In a few years, you will have to be HOMO to be argie. Leading, thank god, to argie extinction. YOU have a problem with the truth, ARGIE, BUTT-OPEN and WELCOMING tosser. Sorry for tosser. Beyond YOUR ability.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 How good! The entire so-called argie population to be burned at the stake. Cremations are out-of-date. Roman candles! If it's not burning, it's not an argie!
4 Chicureo You owe women an apology for your racist comments the other day.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Con_queer_err. You a Brit ?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#10 What racist comments about women? I'm a big admirer of several women leaders, including the former PM of the UK.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 comment#3 is yours isn't?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read #34 too
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/04/09/thirty-years-after-the-war-falklands-under-siege-by-a-volatile-argentina
Mercopress: homophobic, Catholic hating permitted? Wow.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, I'm not catholic (for reasons here mentioned in uncouth form, mainly the sheer corruption of the church), but I'm certainly not protestant, which is nothing more than a bunch of personality cults. If you notice, all crazy end of days yahoos are protestant, all religious christian sects which have ended in mass suicide or some sort of self-destructive act are protestant, all wildly zealous fanatics going apoplectic and into self-induced seizures on television are protestant, all pedophile oriented christian sects forcing girls to marry as prepubescents are protestant, many others are nothing but fronts for corrupt swinders taking the ignorant's money. These last two areshared with the Catholic church (they do it with boys, admittedly).
In short, protestantism is a trully disturbing phenomenon. That doesn't mean I'm going to bash protestant followers, just as I won't bash catholics, but I will point out the ignoble acts the churches themselves commit. What I do find funny is protestants bash catholics in some perceived sense of higher piety.
When I enumerate the realities of protestantism as I have above, most can't answer, they never had actually sat down and realized how all of that is true, and how it is always a protestant church involved in trully crazy, bizarre, and outright chilling behavior. Too much of a cult personality, the hamartia of Protestantism, since by it's nature anyone can say I'm the right way, and others will follow blindly, many times to the precipice and beyond.
All: I sincerely apologize for my insensitive comments about women of southern Italian heritage that reside in Argentina. There are many beautiful Italianas that live on both sides of the Andes. I was very wrong to post the comments.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conqueror my dear friend, let's not forget that Alan Turing the genius of Bletchley Park in WW2 was gay.
I know many gay names from House of Lords.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How nice for your Think, its a shame that is completely irrelevant except to a homophobe like yourself. Shame on you.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find this speech slightly odd in that I cannot understand why he'd choose now to speak up, although I'm clearly not aware of the levels of poverty in Argentina except in number.
Interesting article
Apr 14th, 2012 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 013 Apr 2012
Christians are being “persecuted” by courts and “driven underground” in the same way that homosexuals once were, with worshippers treated as “bigots” simply for expressing their beliefs. Lord Carey warns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/?source=refresh
@14 First thing, no one asked for your opinion. Second thing, given that one of the main characteristics of Argentinians is their being well known for their love of unacceptably young girls, basically at an age of interest to garry glitter, it puts you in a particularly bizarre position judging religious cult leaders for their equally unhealthy practices.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think anyone here is being anti-homosexual. But, the curiousity of catholic church policy being so overtly anti-homosexual, when the catholic seminaries are simply overloaded with guys-who-love-guys, often going out to leather-nights at the local gay bars, makes it simply a laughable sack of hypocrisy. I met a nice chap on my travels who had to leave the catholic seminary because he felt he was forced out by not being included into their gay clique.
@19 To be a christian is to be persecuted. Being crucified upside down, burned alive, that's all a fundamental part of the process. Lord Carey should know that hanging around in a palace wearing opulent purple dresses surrounded by icons isn't.
It will soon be OK to be gay is what some seem to say
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Apr 14th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who can manufacture all the lies you want, they are still lies no matter how prolific they become. If there is one ill Argentina does not suffer from, it is pedophilia. The UK on the other hand, is notorious for it (alongside the USA).
Second, I'm not here to defend the Catholic church. Chop it away, they deserve it too.
And then some of you on here wonder why I became an atheist?
Apr 14th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Atheists are arrogant hardliners.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 024 tobias
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Generalising again tobias?
Which branch of delusionists do you follow then, if not the Catholic Church?
I don't deny the existence of God, but I need people to prove it. I can be asked to prove it does not exist, I can say I'm human.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm a Southern Ledican.
I think the point is...
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the church to express their concern at the level of corruption in Argentina is quite concerning.
Can any Argentinians give there honest views on this...
Are you worried about the direction your country seems to be heading, under CFK leadership?
The Argentine Catholic church spouts their mouths on a daily basis about internal argentine affairs. Perhaps if you foreigners would understand that not all countries have the same conventions as your own, you would understand. The fact that they spoke does not mean the situation is worse in any way or critical, it is completely perfunctory.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For example, in Argentina athletes and most artists NEVER become overly active or vociferous in political activism. That's changed slightly recently mainly with a few actors, but it is nowhere near the levels as in most of your countries. I would not state however that the social situation in your countries is dire just because actors and athletes there get political, which from where I come from would suggest an extreme situation.
It is non-news.
It is disgusting the way this man relates poverty to corruption. Corruption is not the main cause for poverty in Argentina. Even if we had corruption %0 there would still be poor people, because this poverty is structural, the system maintains it, the system that conservative sectors of society try to support, the system that this government has been changing in the last years.
Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0And if he knows any case of corruption then he must say names, he should be responsible for what he says.
The church has a long history hitting and hitting Argentine Governments, no matter what political sign they are. It seems they are not ok with democracy and with a republican system.
@22 - Tobias, Paedophiles are a world wide problem, and if you truly believe that there are no paedophiles in Argentina, then Argentina is in big trouble. I honestly wish it were true, but they are there hiding underneath the radar, committing their dispicable crimes.
Apr 15th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many cases of child abuse (especially those of a sexual nature) have been brushed under the rug for far too long, as being seen as shameful for the child and family etc...
In recent years, people who were abused as children, have been coming forwards. Indeed, the general public are now more aware of these evil pariahs that prey on our children and are more likely to report them to the authorities.
Back to the article. Although I'm not the biggest fan of the Argentine government and it's actions, the Catholic church is hypocritical in its views. It's a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Religion of any kind should keep their noses out of politics.
@GreekYoghurt: Argnazis??? Nazis were a European problem, have you got any idea of all the jewish people that escaped from Europe and came to live to Argentina during the World Wars???
Apr 18th, 2012 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I G N O R A N T
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